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bobilycious
02-06-08, 05:20 AM
QANTAS WALLABIES SQUAD FOR THE 2008 BUNDABERG RUM RUGBY SERIES



PLAYER S14 DOB Ht (cm) Wt(kg) CAPS POINTS

Forwards (17)
Alexander, Ben Brum 13.11.84 189 120 0 0
Baxter, Alistair NSW 21.1.77 190 116 51 5
Brown, Richard WF 28.8.84 189 106 0 0
Chisholm, Mark Brum 18.9.81 197 115 35 25
Dunning, Matt NSW 19.12.78 182 119 36 0
Elsom, Rocky NSW 14.2.83 197 112 32 25
Freier, Adam NSW 20.3.80 175 101 20 10
Hoiles, Stephen Brum 13.10.81 190 98 15 15
Horwill, James QLD 29.5.85 200 117 1 0
Moore, Stephen QLD 20.1.83 186 112 20 5
Mumm, Dean NSW 5.3.84 196 109 0 0
Palu, Wycliff NSW 27.7.82 194 120 17 5
Polota-Nau, Tatafu NSW 26.7.85 181 113 3 0
Robinson, Benn NSW 19.7.84 183 113 6 0
Sharpe, Nathan WF 26.2.78 200 115 64 30
Smith, George Brum 14.7.80 180 104 83 45
Waugh, Phil NSW 22.9.79 175 100 66 20



Backs (13)
Ashley-Cooper, Adam Brum 27.3.84 182 97 12 20
Barnes, Berrick QLD 28.5.86 183 88 4 16
Burgess, Luke NSW 20.8.83 179 89 0 0
Cordingley, Sam QLD 20.3.76 178 87 14 0
Cross, Ryan WF 6.10.79 191 100 0 0
Giteau, Matt WF 29.9.82 178 85 51 259
Hynes, Peter QLD 18.7.82 180 92 0 0
Ioane, Digby QLD 14.7.85 179 94 1 5
Mortlock, Stirling Brum 20.5.77 191 102 63 463
Sheehan, Brett NSW 16.9.79 173 90 1 0
Shepherd, Cameron WF 30.3.84 189 97 6 19
Tuqiri, Lote NSW 23.9.79 191 104 58 140
Turner, Lachie NSW 11.5.87 189 88 0 0

Dmx#1
02-06-08, 05:41 AM
Unless I'm blind I don't see Mitchell in the squad :) Dunning has been selected for the squad :lol: seriously anybody must be better than dunning.ANYBODY>>>>>>Dunning

InsaneAsylum
02-06-08, 05:47 AM
hmm interesting backline choices....

in particular turner, hynes, ioane and cordingley

also, mark gerrard and scott staniforth omitted from last years squad. i thought gerrard would be a shoe in for the sqaud.

also burgess, cordingley and sheehan selected. do you really need 3 scrum halves? i would have thought cordingley would have been overlooked because of his age.

Fushitsusha
02-06-08, 05:48 AM
I have some issues here...

Al Baxter, Brett Sheehan, Lachie Turner and Digby Ioane.

I'd substitute those guys for Shepherdson, Lucas, Gerrard and Tyrone Smith.

Baxter is useless and should be sent back to club rugby.

Sheehan is surely the kind of player to cost the Wallabies a match with his stupidity.

Aside from the final, Turner has done NOTHING all year. And Ioane has just done plain nothing all year, except for being suspended for half of the season.

I'm glad to see Alexander given a chance. I've been calling for him to get a starting spot in the Brumbies.

Thankfully the selectors were sensible and have given Mortlock the captaincy.

However, there'll surely be changes when Vickerman, Mitchell, Staniforth and Greg Holmes are fit again.

I'm a bit dissapointed with the backline choices, and it's quite odd to have 3 halfbacks in a 13 man backline selection.

BLR
02-06-08, 06:04 AM
The injury list

2007 World Cup squad players not considered for selection due to injury:

Holmes, Greg QLD 11.6.83 183 112 13 10

Latham, Chris QLD 8.9.75 193. 102. 78. 200

Mitchell, Drew WF 26.3.84 182 92 21 70

McMeniman, Hugh QLD 1.11.83 200 114 12 0

Staniforth, Scott WF 12.12.77 188 99 12 35

Vickerman, Dan NSW 4.6.79 204 115 52 0

Players also not considered for selection in the Qantas Wallabies squad or the Australia A squad due to injury:

PLAYER Super 14 Team

Carter, Tom NSW

Edwards, Dayna QLD

Fava, Scott WF

Hockings, Tom WF

Horua, Tamaiti WF

Kepu, Sekope NSW

Lealiifano, Christian Brumbies

Roe, John QLD

Schifcofske, Clinton QLD

Va’aulu, Brando QLD

The Reds and Brumbies get more players then the Force despite thier respective positions on the table? Bunch of jokers these selectors...I expect Mitchell to slot right in as soon as he is fit.

Fushitsusha
02-06-08, 06:33 AM
The Reds and Brumbies get more players then the Force despite thier respective positions on the table? Bunch of jokers these selectors...I expect Mitchell to slot right in as soon as he is fit.
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Well, all the Force players who would be in contention are all there with Mitchell and Staniforth probably coming back in when they're fit.

The Brumbies were unlucky not to have a few extra players in there.

Thanks to Shepherdson not selected we have to settle for an all Waratahs front row. They couldn't even match it with the Crusaders, how are we going to go against the All Blacks and Springboks?!!?

The Waratahs were expected to dominate the squad but there's a few names who should definately not be there.

I'm looking at you Al Baxter. Worst Australian player of the professional era? Possibly up there with Steve Kefu. Unfortunately Baxter looks like he'll be back in the squad. Will the selectors ever learn!?

I'm blaming Foley. He probably should've got the axe along with the rest of Connolly's assistants. He was the reason that the best hooker in Australia last year - Jeremy Paul, didn't play for the Wallabies.

Hamster
02-06-08, 08:04 AM
WHAT THE f*** IS BAXTER AND DUNNING DOING IN THE TEAM????? f***!

As said 3 halfbacks picked is strange.. but to pick Cordinly ahead of Ben Lucas? Cordinly is too old, going to Europe, hardly been great when hes played, Lucas had to be given a go. Sheehan?

Apart from that I reckon its a pretty good squad, not even Pocock made it. I reckon picking Hynes and Ioane are good desicions especially Hynes whos played well, I know Ioane had a terrible S14 with injury and suspension, but the kids a big talent and has played well in super 14 past few years and his wallaby debut last year was awesome.

187
02-06-08, 09:19 AM
i wanna know why mark gerrard wasn't picked!

Gay-Guy
02-06-08, 09:34 AM
Who selected these players? Did Deans get a chance to have a say?

Fushitsusha
02-06-08, 10:10 AM
Who selected these players? Did Deans get a chance to have a say?
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Apparently Pat Howard (ARU High Performance Manager) was selecting the initial squad for the Ireland and France tests because of Deans et al commitment to other clubs.

Surely they can't be serious about Al Baxter?! Why is it that everyone else on the planet except for the ARU realises he's terrible!?

I'm still in shock...

sanzar
02-06-08, 10:11 AM
Not from what I hear... his responsibilities with Canterbury has meant his involvement with selection has been minimal unfortunately.

nam97
02-06-08, 10:17 AM
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Who selected these players? Did Deans get a chance to have a say?
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Apparently Pat Howard (ARU High Performance Manager) was selecting the initial squad for the Ireland and France tests because of Deans et al commitment to other clubs.

Surely they can&#39;t be serious about Al Baxter?! Why is it that everyone else on the planet except for the ARU realises he&#39;s terrible!?

I&#39;m still in shock...
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As am I. But I have come to wonder, DO Australia have anyone else better than him? Besides the others that are already included, that is?

Fushitsusha
02-06-08, 10:24 AM
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Who selected these players? Did Deans get a chance to have a say?
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Apparently Pat Howard (ARU High Performance Manager) was selecting the initial squad for the Ireland and France tests because of Deans et al commitment to other clubs.

Surely they can&#39;t be serious about Al Baxter?! Why is it that everyone else on the planet except for the ARU realises he&#39;s terrible!?

I&#39;m still in shock...
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As am I. But I have come to wonder, DO Australia have anyone else better than him? Besides the others that are already included, that is?
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Shepherdson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baxter

I would at least hope that when Holmes is fit he&#39;ll knock out Baxter. Anyone but Baxter!

I look forward to the referee repeatedly signalling that Baxter has gone straight to ground. Excellent.

Incredible Schalk
02-06-08, 08:01 PM
i wanna know why mark gerrard wasn&#39;t picked!
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Yea same its asotinishing, he has been one of the Brumbies stand out players for years.

Wally
03-06-08, 02:25 AM
Pretty interesting squad. I believe picking Ioane was a good decision, he has the potential to be Australia&#39;s premier winger so I think that choice is justified. The additions of Baxter and Dunning are a worry, but really we are limited in the choice of props in this country. There was always going to be a big Sydney influence on this squad.

My major concern is why Kurtley Beale and Quade Cooper weren&#39;t selected in the Australia A squad. Is this something to do with the u/20 World Cup?

darwin_23
03-06-08, 02:30 AM
My major concern is why Kurtley Beale and Quade Cooper weren&#39;t selected in the Australia A squad. Is this something to do with the u/20 World Cup? [/b]

Yep - Cooper, Beale, Horne, and Pocock are all going to under 20 world cup, though I hear that Beale has an ankle injury and he may be ruled out for the tournament...

Fushitsusha
03-06-08, 02:57 AM
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i wanna know why mark gerrard wasn&#39;t picked!
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Yea same its asotinishing, he has been one of the Brumbies stand out players for years.
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I wonder if this will be amended when a squad is picked for the Tri Nations.

At the moment they&#39;ve really only good one quality fullback with Shepherd in the squad. AAC is better suited for the centres or wing, and Turner hasn&#39;t really impressed me too much at fullback.

I would think Deans would like someone with Gerrard&#39;s qualities as he&#39;s got such a great kicking game and is a good, strong counter attack runner.

At the moment you&#39;d think the team for the first test would look something like this (based on who has been selected) -

1. Robinson
2. Polata-Nau
3. Dunning (ugh!)
4. Chisholm
5. Sharpe
6. Elsom
7. Smith
8. Palu
9. Burgess
10. Giteau
11. Tuqiri
12. Barnes
13. Mortlock ©
14. Ashley-Cooper
15. Shepherd

16. Moore
17. Baxter (should&#39;ve played his last test in 2005)
18. Mumm
19. Waugh
20. Cordingley
21. Cross
22. Hynes

Dmx#1
03-06-08, 06:28 AM
Who is worse out of Dunning or Al Baxter???????

Fushitsusha
03-06-08, 06:32 AM
Who is worse out of Dunning or Al Baxter???????
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I&#39;d say Baxter.

Dunning shows potential at times, and can cover both sides of the scrum (even if he&#39;s not that good), but Baxter is consistently useless and is always hitting the dirt.

BLR
03-06-08, 06:39 AM
i wanna know why mark gerrard wasn&#39;t picked![/b]
Look at how he played against the Force, that&#39;s how he plays in the big international games...consistent generally but when it comes to the crunch he turns to water most of the time....Shepherd is a better prospect.

Fushitsusha
03-06-08, 07:30 AM
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i wanna know why mark gerrard wasn&#39;t picked![/b]
Look at how he played against the Force, that&#39;s how he plays in the big international games...consistent generally but when it comes to the crunch he turns to water most of the time....Shepherd is a better prospect.
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That&#39;s rubbish.

There was nothing separating his and Shepherd&#39;s form this year. In fact, Gerrard had a better all round year. Shepherd just happened to have a better game when the Force played the Brumbies.

Gerrard was also the Wallabies top try scorer in 2006 when he was a regular.

mackka
03-06-08, 09:46 AM
But he&#39;s sooooo sllllooooowwwwww!!

He&#39;s got a great kicking game but not a whole lot better than Shepherd&#39;s and Shepherd does pretty much everything better....and FASTER!!

Gay-Guy
03-06-08, 10:15 AM
Gee I used to like Gerard back in his early Brumbies days....what ever happened??????

candybum
03-06-08, 10:54 AM
Back when he was top line breaker in the game in super rugby (or so the commentator said...)

Maccaweeny
03-06-08, 10:57 AM
Guys, while we&#39;re on the topic, my brother went and saw Indiana Jones with Gerrard because he knows one of his wife&#39;s friends through film school.

End of story.

Donald
04-06-08, 01:27 AM
Its good to see Tahu not making it based on his Rl rep.
Tbh Thats how sailor and rogers made Aus.

Tuqiri was the only recent convert to prove overly dominant in the code.

dwaldron
07-06-08, 07:56 AM
whats with all the fuss about al baxter? (and mat dunning) Australia has no other good props! so stop complainging until we get good ones

rodri_arg91
07-06-08, 10:55 PM
QANTAS WALLABIES SQUAD FOR THE 2008 BUNDABERG RUM RUGBY SERIES



PLAYER S14 DOB Ht (cm) Wt(kg) CAPS POINTS

Forwards (17)
Alexander, Ben Brum 13.11.84 189 120 0 0
Baxter, Alistair NSW 21.1.77 190 116 51 5
Brown, Richard WF 28.8.84 189 106 0 0
Chisholm, Mark Brum 18.9.81 197 115 35 25
Dunning, Matt NSW 19.12.78 182 119 36 0
Elsom, Rocky NSW 14.2.83 197 112 32 25
Freier, Adam NSW 20.3.80 175 101 20 10
Hoiles, Stephen Brum 13.10.81 190 98 15 15
Horwill, James QLD 29.5.85 200 117 1 0
Moore, Stephen QLD 20.1.83 186 112 20 5
Mumm, Dean NSW 5.3.84 196 109 0 0
Palu, Wycliff NSW 27.7.82 194 120 17 5
Polota-Nau, Tatafu NSW 26.7.85 181 113 3 0
Robinson, Benn NSW 19.7.84 183 113 6 0
Sharpe, Nathan WF 26.2.78 200 115 64 30
Smith, George Brum 14.7.80 180 104 83 45
Waugh, Phil NSW 22.9.79 175 100 66 20



Backs (13)
Ashley-Cooper, Adam Brum 27.3.84 182 97 12 20
Barnes, Berrick QLD 28.5.86 183 88 4 16
Burgess, Luke NSW 20.8.83 179 89 0 0
Cordingley, Sam QLD 20.3.76 178 87 14 0
Cross, Ryan WF 6.10.79 191 100 0 0
Giteau, Matt WF 29.9.82 178 85 51 259
Hynes, Peter QLD 18.7.82 180 92 0 0
Ioane, Digby QLD 14.7.85 179 94 1 5
Mortlock, Stirling Brum 20.5.77 191 102 63 463
Sheehan, Brett NSW 16.9.79 173 90 1 0
Shepherd, Cameron WF 30.3.84 189 97 6 19
Tuqiri, Lote NSW 23.9.79 191 104 58 140
Turner, Lachie NSW 11.5.87 189 88 0 0
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What a squad!!! First-class players... It&#39;s a shame Latham aint there due to injury

rsea
08-06-08, 01:05 AM
My squad

1. Robinson
2. Polata-Nau
3. Dunning
4. Mumm
5. Sharpe
6. Elsom
7. Smith
8. Palu
9. Burgess
10. Giteau
11. Tuqiri
12. Barnes
13. Mortlock ©
14. Ioane
15. Ashley-Cooper

16. Moore
17. Alexander (Got to blood some new props)
18. Chisholm (On 2nd half. Pull Elsom and switch Mumm into Blindside Flanker in 2nd half)
19. Brown
20. Cordingley
21. Shepherd
22. Hynes (On 2nd half. Pull Tuqiri)

Bit worried about what happens if we lose an inside centre or Fly Half. All I can see to do is switch Ashley-Cooper into inside centre and bring on Shep to cover Fullback.

Fa'atau82
08-06-08, 01:51 PM
Silly question, but what is this squad for? Just some tests coming up?

This isn&#39;t a Tri-Nations squad? What is the Bundaberg Rum series? Is it just a series of tests, or some fancy name for Tri-Nations?

I don&#39;t follow SH rugby that much, as you lot can probably tell.

rsea
08-06-08, 02:40 PM
They&#39;ll name another squad for the tri nations. This is just for the Irish / French hit outs

Fa'atau82
09-06-08, 07:39 PM
Any idea when that comes out? It&#39;s needed for the rugby 08 gaming section.

rsea
09-06-08, 10:16 PM
I&#39;d say the end of the month. Theirs likely to be plenty of changes because it&#39;ll be deans&#39; first squad

Hamster
10-06-08, 12:10 PM
I&#39;d say the end of the month. Theirs likely to be plenty of changes because it&#39;ll be deans&#39; first squad [/b]

Who is that at the back of the Wallabies picture strachting there head?

rsea
10-06-08, 01:51 PM
Gotta be a prop

Fushitsusha
10-06-08, 03:06 PM
<div class='quotemain'> I&#39;d say the end of the month. Theirs likely to be plenty of changes because it&#39;ll be deans&#39; first squad [/b]

Who is that at the back of the Wallabies picture strachting there head?
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I believe it&#39;s Ben Alexander scratching his head wondering how he got into the Wallabies team... although he shouldn&#39;t be too surprised, my grandmother would be more useful than Baxter and Dunning...