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An Tarbh
09-10-08, 10:30 AM
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Munster v Montauban
Venue: Thomond Park
Date: 10 October 2008
Kickoff: 20:00, Live - Sky Sports 2/Sport+</div>

So the defending champions get their campaign underway against the newest team in the competiton at Thomond Park. It should be a routine victory for the Irish province given their start to the season and the fact that they have a full deck.

Montauban for their part seem happy to be here but seem to be playing down their chances insisting that they&#39;re concentrating on the Top 14. Is it just bravado ahead of this game or will they take the same recent approach of the likes of Bourgoin and Clermont.

Either way Munster won&#39;t show them any mercy regardless of their effort so I&#39;d expect them to come away with the full 5 points here, they may need to given the real possibility of losing the other 2 away games.

Your thoughts???

cyRil
09-10-08, 11:05 AM
I&#39;ve predicted a close-ish game, but thinking about it Munster could put 40-50 points on Montauban here.

An Tarbh
09-10-08, 11:19 AM
I think 40-50 points is a bit much, obviously Munster look in good nick at the moment but it&#39;s a big step up from domestic competition to European level so I can&#39;t see it being that easy. That said they shouldn&#39;t be threatened in this game.

Vambo
09-10-08, 02:21 PM
Should be an easy win for Munster.

An Tarbh
09-10-08, 06:42 PM
Here&#39;s the teams,

Munster: K Earls; D Howlett, R Tipoki, L Mafi, I Dowling; R O&#39;Gara, P Stringer; M Horan, J Flannery, J Hayes, D O&#39;Callaghan, P O&#39;Connell (capt), A Quinlan, D Wallace, J Melck.
Replacements: D Fogarty, F Pucciariello, D Ryan, J O&#39;Sullivan, M Prendergast, P Warwick, B Murphy

Montauban: J Dalla Riva; S Jonnet, J Viard, R Jahouer, J Cassin; R Lespinas, P Mitu; B Balan, B Mach, N Adams, S Murray, R Frost, Y Caballero, M Raynaud (capt), M Clarkin.
Replacements: C Traversa, L DelBoulbes, S Florea, K Ghezal, A Battut, F Fortassin, J Laharrague

Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)

No surprises for Munster with only O&#39;Leary missing out although hard to say if he&#39;d have started anyway.

MunsterMan
09-10-08, 08:11 PM
Is that Montauban&#39;s second team? Could be an absolute embarrassment if it is.

An Tarbh
09-10-08, 08:19 PM
Well there&#39;s only 3 of the team involved who lost to Paris.

Stillknox
09-10-08, 10:02 PM
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Is that Montauban&#39;s second team? Could be an absolute embarrassment if it is.[/b]

More or less... some vital players like Delasau (Top 14 best try scorer ath the moment) Fortassin, Paku, Avramovich, Diarra... are missing but others like Caballero (a french international) are there. They&#39;re in difficulty in the Top 14 (11th) and I don&#39;t think they&#39;ll try anything in that H-Cup, except maybe at home, they&#39;re proud of the stadium and attached to their home record. (even if Toulouse hammered them a few weeks ago at Sapiac)

poppy
10-10-08, 05:54 PM
One thing I have noticed about this forum is that you are all very mannerly.When I was a member of Planet Rugby before I got the chop it was always f*** you and this and that.Why is this? :)

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 05:57 PM
Because if you swear at members here when it&#39;s unjustified, you&#39;ll get the boot. I hope you adapt well to these changes. :P

On topic: Munster should win this. It&#39;ll be interesting to see how Montauban play though. Many have written them off as no-hopers for even a win; lets hope they&#39;ll prove those folks wrong tonight. :D

poppy
10-10-08, 05:59 PM
On topic: Munster should win this. It&#39;ll be interesting to see how Montauban play though. Many have written them off as no-hopers for even a win; lets hope they&#39;ll prove those folks wrong tonight. :D
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I didnt get the boot for swearing in fact I hardly swear @ all but From the looks of things there isnt much going on here.Can anyone recommend good forums

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 06:01 PM
Try here (http://forum.planet-rugby.com/index.php)

shtove
10-10-08, 07:01 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (poppy @ Oct 11 2008, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352511')</div>
One thing I have noticed about this forum is that you are all very mannerly.When I was a member of Planet Rugby before I got the chop it was always f*** you and this and that.Why is this? :)[/b]
**** you.

Munster in front of faithful + new stadium + French shoulder-shrugging = slaughter.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:19 PM
That was a desperate miss from Mitu there, Barnes already ******* off the Munster faithful.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 07:22 PM
C&#39;mon Montauban! 3 - 0 to zem! Oh, and lol at O&#39;Gara.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:23 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Oct 10 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352535')</div>
C&#39;mon Montauban! 3 - 0 to zem![/b]

wow your French is almost as good as Wayne Barnes&#39;

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 07:23 PM
Vot?

Prestwick
10-10-08, 07:25 PM
Hoh-hoh-hooooh! It zeems dat ze plucky Francais has that...uuuh...va va voom!

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:27 PM
Oh Christ it&#39;s turning into a day at work round here.

Munster finding gaps but not finishing moves off, poor support for Earls just there

Prestwick
10-10-08, 07:29 PM
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Oh Christ it&#39;s turning into a day at work round here.[/b]

Does your work involve you trying to diligently do as good a job as possible while being surrounded by idiots sporting crap French accents?

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:35 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Oct 10 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352539')
Oh Christ it&#39;s turning into a day at work round here.[/b]

Does your work involve you trying to diligently do as good a job as possible while being surrounded by idiots sporting crap French accents?
[/b][/quote]

Well the accents are real but to answer your question yes!

Prestwick
10-10-08, 07:37 PM
Hoh hoh hoooh! Sacre bleu!

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:37 PM
It&#39;s only taken 30 minutes but Munster finally on the scoreboard.

3-3.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 07:38 PM
While this scrum-half is kicking well, he&#39;s kicking way too often. They had a chance to go there...

Prestwick
10-10-08, 07:41 PM
Finally found a video feed AND OH MY GOD THAT IS A BRILLITANT STADIUM!

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:42 PM
Looks like a slighty poor man&#39;s version of Hamilton.

Let&#39;s see if this was a good call from Munster not taking the kick at goal.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 07:42 PM
They beat you to it.




APPARENTLY. d:< 10 - 3 to the Men in Red.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:43 PM
Right then, good call!!!

cyRil
10-10-08, 07:43 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cyRil of Ospreylia @ Oct 9 2008, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352214')</div>
I&#39;ve predicted a close-ish game, but thinking about it Munster could put 40-50 points on Montauban here.[/b]
LOL at this guy :bravo:

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:45 PM
10-3 is a fair reflection on the game, but for sloppy mistakes it could be a lot more.

Prestwick
10-10-08, 07:46 PM
Munster look like they&#39;re starting to get into gear now, again a few problems. Stuttering start for Munster&#39;s campaign...

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 07:46 PM
Given that it&#39;s Montauban&#39;s 1.75th side, they&#39;re playing very well...

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:49 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Oct 10 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352552')</div>
Given that it&#39;s Montauban&#39;s 1.75th side, they&#39;re playing very well...[/b]

I&#39;m not taking anything away from them but they&#39;ve not threatened the Munster tryline and don&#39;t look like doing so, so they need to find a big improvement in the second half as well.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 07:51 PM
Agreed with that. Their defence has been outstanding so far, but I can&#39;t see them keeping it up... And they seriously lack penetration as you said!
God, Sale struggle to score tries against Bristol and Newcastle; we&#39;ll be lucky to break the gainline against a defence like that. D:

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 07:54 PM
I&#39;d expect Munster to pick it up a notch and just be a bit more clinical in their play and there&#39;s still a bp for the taking. You&#39;d think the defensive effort of Montauban would take its&#39; toll.

Prestwick
10-10-08, 07:58 PM
Second half begins with some swashbuckling by Howlett and a fruitless kicking exchange between Mautaban and Munster...

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:00 PM
Gah, shame this Mitu fella can&#39;t get the 3 points. We&#39;d be in for a great game if he could just get the ball over the posts...
Wups, next time I won&#39;t be so quick to mouth off...

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:12 PM
Montauban not sticking to the script at all, 13-9 now, time to get your act together Munster.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:13 PM
ABBUBDAGOOFVSDV
MONTAUBAN TRY!
SA
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SD
BSDSGBSA SAB

Prestwick
10-10-08, 08:14 PM
Serious?!?!?

EDIT: I&#39;m a minute behind on this feed...oh dear for Munster! Who went for the attempted interception?!

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:14 PM
Yes. O_O 14 - 13

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:15 PM
Well that was the only way they were going to threaten the Munster line so credit for taking the chance.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:16 PM
Well that didn&#39;t last long. Penalty to the spoil sports....
And... it&#39;s.... missed?!?!? O_O

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:19 PM
Let off for Montauban there, didn&#39;t expect O&#39;Gara to miss that one.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:23 PM
Meh, 16 - 14 to the party-poopers. :( C&#39;mon Montauban!

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:23 PM
He wasn&#39;t going to miss that one, I believe that Montauban are the party poopers not Munster.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:25 PM
I&#39;m not going to be throwing a party over a Munster win is what I mean. :wah:

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:28 PM
Cmon Munster, steal this ball.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:29 PM
**** sake do the hard part and then screw up the easy bit.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:34 PM
Oh Jesus. If they win this scrum then we&#39;re in for a f**king tense finish!
PENALTY TO MONTAUBAN OGOD
It&#39;s over! 16 - 17
F***INGHELL
Ah Munster you tossers. -___- Penalty to them.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:37 PM
Now time to show your mettle Munster, who&#39;d have thunk it.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:38 PM
Barnes suddenly remembers what city he&#39;s in.

Prestwick
10-10-08, 08:39 PM
Holy crap, is this for real?

Total underdog fighting tooth and nail against hardcore giant. This is exactly why the HEC is so awesome.

cyRil
10-10-08, 08:40 PM
f***sake

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:40 PM
Munster certainly have gotten out of jail in this one. Time to close it out now.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:40 PM
Bizarre man of the match call to someone who has effectively cost them the win.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:41 PM
Good thing they didn&#39;t get the try at the end. They didn&#39;t deserve it; not in the slightest. Now enter Clermont or Sale to win the pool; Munster&#39;ve let a bonus point go begging here...
^ I disagree completely.

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:43 PM
Well Montauban didn&#39;t deserve the win, they were only in the match due to Munster&#39;s own complacency, that&#39;s not the performance Sale will be too happy to see, Munster will be out to prove a point next week.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:46 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Oct 10 2008, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352597')</div>
Well Montauban didn&#39;t deserve the win, they were only in the match due to Munster&#39;s own complacency, that&#39;s not the performance Sale will be too happy to see, Munster will be out to prove a point next week.[/b]
Yeh, it had nothing to do with an incredible defensive effort - even at the death of the game... :rolleyes: Munster were bad, I&#39;ll give you that, but you&#39;re taking truckloads away from Montauban&#39;s performance. If either Clermont or Sale had played this same side, Munster&#39;d have one heck of an upward climb on their hands...

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:48 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Oct 10 2008, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352597')
Well Montauban didn&#39;t deserve the win, they were only in the match due to Munster&#39;s own complacency, that&#39;s not the performance Sale will be too happy to see, Munster will be out to prove a point next week.[/b]
Yeh, it had nothing to do with an incredible defensive effort - even at the death of the game... :rolleyes: Munster were bad, I&#39;ll give you that, but you&#39;re taking truckloads away from Montauban&#39;s performance. If either Clermont or Sale had played this same side, Munster&#39;d have one heck of an upward climb on their hands...
[/b][/quote]

Munster&#39;s attitude would have been a hell of a lot different had they been playing Sale or Clermont tonight, they took Montauban for granted which is surprising to see as it&#39;s not something they&#39;ve done in the past, possibly something different in the buildup under McGahan which has resulted in that than under Kidney or Gaffney.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:49 PM
Excuse me while I find my eyes...

Prestwick
10-10-08, 08:50 PM
Very very disappointing from Munster. They&#39;ll need to win and win big against Clermont and Sale if they hope to regain momentum and confidence which surely now has taken a bit of a battering tonight.

Considering that the entire Mantauban performance was powered by that plucky scrum-half, I think the man of the match award was well deserved!

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 08:53 PM
Well O&#39;Connell drove the Munster performance and was by far the class act on the pitch.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 08:57 PM
And this, folks, is why the HEC is > the S14.

cyRil
10-10-08, 09:02 PM
Grab your popcorn.

MunsterMan
10-10-08, 09:07 PM
Well done Montauban :bravo: Definitely deserved the Bonus point.

Munster were f***ing shocking but it wouldn&#39;t be Munster if we weren&#39;t under pressure already would it?

I&#39;m mostly looking forward to next weekend, but dreading it a little bit too, the beauty of the HEC!

An Tarbh
10-10-08, 09:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Oct 10 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352606')</div>
Well done Montauban :bravo: Definitely deserved the Bonus point.

Munster were f***ing shocking but it wouldn&#39;t be Munster if we weren&#39;t under pressure already would it?

I&#39;m mostly looking forward to next weekend, but dreading it a little bit too, the beauty of the HEC![/b]

yeah but you can be sure it&#39;ll be a different beast that takes to the park next Sunday

Prestwick
10-10-08, 09:42 PM
Didn&#39;t we say the same about Wasps and their abortive HEC campaign last season?

Don&#39;t want to tempt faith but Munster really do need to shift into gear and get the show on the road...

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 09:44 PM
If that&#39;s the way events will unfold, Sale should be stuffed next week.... NO! AIN&#39;T GONNA HAPPEN! :angry:

MunsterMan
10-10-08, 09:49 PM
I know that, but I&#39;m nervous before all HEC games, except for like the Munster team the match tonight and it nearly cost us. Still tip us to beat Sale though, should be a similar game to tonight&#39;s, if we keep our discipline and more clinical we should win.

Bullitt
10-10-08, 09:50 PM
Lucky, Lucky, Lucky Munster.


That is all.

poppy
10-10-08, 10:02 PM
I wouldnt want to be Sale next week.They will get everything thrown @ them.Mc Gahan however has done something that Munster rugby has not seen before.He has ben cocky/over confident with Munster by stating in the media he wants 5 points.Kidney would never have done this.It is okay to say it behind closed doors but not in the public.From the first minute tonight they were going for the bonus point rather than trying to win the match first.Not a wise approach by Tony

poppy
10-10-08, 10:05 PM
There was nothing lucky about that.They needed a penalty in the last 2 minutes and they got it with great play.It was just a bad performance

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 10:12 PM
Wrong, they got that penalty because of poor Montauban play. But believe whatever you wanna believe buddy.

Bullitt
10-10-08, 10:15 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (poppy @ Oct 10 2008, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352630')</div>
There was nothing lucky about that.They needed a penalty in the last 2 minutes and they got it with great play.It was just a bad performance[/b]

Yeah, you keep believing that.

shtove
10-10-08, 10:44 PM
Munster have a lot of thinking to do from #6 to #9. Still shy of a great euro team like Toulouse or Wasps.

Fair dues to Montaub - that try creating knock on sur la tete was pure genius.

Sir Speedy, your card is marked Gwlad style.

Sir Speedy
10-10-08, 10:50 PM
:D

poppy
11-10-08, 11:09 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (poppy @ Oct 10 2008, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352630')
There was nothing lucky about that.They needed a penalty in the last 2 minutes and they got it with great play.It was just a bad performance[/b]

Yeah, you keep believing that.
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Rugby is about taking your chances.Montauban could not do that and Munster could.That is how you win a rugby match.

Sir Speedy
11-10-08, 11:12 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Oct 10 2008, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352636')
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (poppy @ Oct 10 2008, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=352630')
There was nothing lucky about that.They needed a penalty in the last 2 minutes and they got it with great play.It was just a bad performance[/b]

Yeah, you keep believing that.
[/b][/quote]
Rugby is about taking your chances.Montauban could not do that and Munster could.That is how you win a rugby match.
[/b][/quote]
Sure, you win a rugby match by squandering as many oppurtunities as possible. I gotcha. ;)