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Bullitt
27-06-05, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by skysports.com
HOOKER LEOTA OPTS TO LEAVE WASPS

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Leota: Farewell to Wasps

Hooker Trevor Leota has left Wasps to pursue a new career in the Super 14.

The 30-year-old Samoan has enjoyed a glittering eight-year career with the Wycombe club but the option of a fresh challenge was too much to ignore.

"It hurts me to say goodbye as I have loved every moment I have been with the London Wasps. However, I have always wanted to play in the Super 12 and now with it becoming the Super 14 I have an opportunity to play in it and also see my children more frequently which is very important to me," he said.

"I've got plenty of years left in the game so who knows, I could be back in England one day soon. Wherever I go, whatever I do, the Wasps fans have a special place in my heart. Once a Wasp, always a Wasp."

Chief executive David Davies revealed the club are looking to bring in a replacement for Leota, who won three Premiership titles, the Heineken Cup, Parker Pen Challenge Cup and the Tetley's Bitter Cup twice.

"We have new hookers coming in and it strikes me as the right time (for Leota to leave)," Davies told the Wasps Buzzline.

"There are lots of hookers out there who are looking at us with enthusiastic eyes. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks we will be able to make an announcement. We are looking for someone who can work in tandem with Phil and Ben Gotting.

"The club are very grateful to Trevor but these things have a lifespan he is in need of a new challenge and relishing the chance to play abroad."

Meanwhile fly-half James Brooks has signed a three-year extension to his contract and Connacht prop Peter Bracken is close to a move.

Shame, he was one of the few guys at Wasps that I do genuinly like. Met him breifly this year and he's a thouroughly nice guy.

Bullitt
27-06-05, 09:05 PM
LEEDS TYKES SECURE ISAACSON DEAL

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[color=red]Isaacson: Leeds-bound

Leeds Tykes have been boosted by the signing of James Isaacson from Guinness Premiership rivals Newcastle Falcons on a two-year deal.

Isaacson, 25, joins All Blacks Test scrum-half Justin Marshall and South African prop Kees Lensing in committing to the Headingley club.

The Former England under-21 star can play either loose-head prop or hooker and is seen as an an ideal replacement for veteran Matt Holt, who retired at the end of last season.

Tykes director of rugby Phil Davies said: "In front-row terms, James is a young player who will hopefully develop for us.

"He is a versatile player who will provide us with plenty of options in the forwards, in what will be one of the toughest seasons to date.

"I look forward to seeing him fulfil his potential in the years to come."[/QUOTE]

el_tk
27-06-05, 09:20 PM
Wasps are apparently looking to sign Shane Byrne after he recieved a derisory contract offer from Leinster and the IRFU. I think his contract is actually expired now.

An Tarbh
28-06-05, 05:47 AM
He's certainly taken a bit of a risk going on a Lions tour and being out of contract

SaintsFan_Webby
28-06-05, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by An Tarbh@Jun 28 2005, 06:47 AM
He's certainly taken a bit of a risk going on a Lions tour and being out of contract
Mabye he saw it as a chance to put himself in the shop window. His performance in the first test won't have done him much good in that respect though.

robbinho
29-06-05, 11:26 AM
He can always fall back on his career as a pirate.

edinburgh_gunner
29-06-05, 12:28 PM
Edinburgh Gunners:

IN

Leonelli (argentina 7s captain)
Matt Muschen (sp?...came from uslter)
Duncan Hodge (returns from leeds)
Dave Hewitt (Canterbury)

OUT
Craig Joiner (retired)
Brendan Laney

Some other changes I think but they are just fringe players.

el_tk
29-06-05, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by edinburgh_gunner@Jun 29 2005, 12:28 PM
Matt Muschen (sp?...came from uslter)
It's Muschin I think, he's not that great.

el_tk
29-06-05, 06:58 PM
Leinster have re-signed James Norton and signed Adam Byrnes, a 6'7 second row from NSW A and the Eastern Suburbs.

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Leinster Rugby are delighted to announce the signing of second row Adam Byrnes on a 2-year deal from Australian side the Eastern Suburbs.

The 6&#39;7&#39;&#39; lock forward has an EU passport and will link up with Michael Cheika and his new team-mates next week.

Meanwhile, former Ireland Schools / Under-21 winger James Norton has agreed a new one-year deal with the province.

Coach Michael Cheika said: "I am delighted to welcome Adam to Leinster. He was a member of the New South Wales Waratahs &#39;A&#39; side and he is a young, hard and aggressive player who will add competition and skills to the pack.

"Adam played for Eastern Suburbs and he always impressed me when I was coaching Randwick. The rivalry between the two sides is like that between Leinster and Munster. So for me to bring him here shows how highly I rate him!

"Having watched a lot of video footage of James in recent weeks, I am also pleased to confirm that he has re-signed for the coming season.

"At 24, he will bring pace and skill to the backline and he has a wealth of experience having also played representative rugby with Ireland Schools, Ireland Under-21&#39;s and Connacht."

Filed by Editor[/b]

From leinsterrugby.ie and my free text alert

Saint N Sinner
30-06-05, 01:01 PM
Northampton Saints

IN

Daniel Browne (Grenoble) No 8
Luke Harbut (Ex-Saracens prop. Had a year out but returns for a six-month contract)
Sam Harding (Crusaders) Flanker
Geoff Appleford (London Irish) Centre
Colin Noon (Leicester) Prop
David Quinlan (Leinster) Centre
Carlos Spencer (Auckland Blues) Fly-half
Ben Lewitt (Bedford Blues) Flanker
Sean Lamont (Glasgow) Winger
James Percival (Worcester) Lock

Saint N Sinner
30-06-05, 01:15 PM
Mark Taylor, is he signing? (http://www.sportnetwork.net/boards/read/s99.php?f=101&i=176193&t=176193&v=f&sid=99)

SaintsFan_Webby
30-06-05, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by saintsfan24_7@Jun 30 2005, 02:15 PM
Mark Taylor, is he signing? (http://www.sportnetwork.net/boards/read/s99.php?f=101&i=176193&t=176193&v=f&sid=99)
Considering Taylor has already signed a contract with Sale, I very much doubt it. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

Saint N Sinner
02-07-05, 06:46 AM
Here is something confirmed (http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/Rugby/0,,2-9-838_1730790,00.html)

SaintsFan_Webby
02-07-05, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by saintsfan24_7@Jul 2 2005, 07:46 AM
Here is something confirmed (http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/Rugby/0,,2-9-838_1730790,00.html)
Looks a pretty good signing. When does the Currie Cup finish exactly? Is it around November-ish?

harrison2468
02-07-05, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by saintsfan24_7@Jul 2 2005, 06:46 PM
Here is something confirmed (http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/Rugby/0,,2-9-838_1730790,00.html)
Interesting. We are quite good at poaching from the Springboks!

Bullitt
02-07-05, 12:35 PM
Because SA&#39;s can still play for the Springboks in while playing at club level in England, and their EU qualified so the more-than-one overseas player rule doesn&#39;t count, they are ideal to bring some world class rugby to the premiership.

As for Bernard, I just hope he doesn&#39;t become another Robbie Kempson. The fat lump of lard.

SaintsFan_Webby
02-07-05, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Teh Mite@Jul 2 2005, 01:35 PM
As for Bernard, I just hope he doesn&#39;t become another Robbie Kempson. The fat lump of lard.
He&#39;s being signed by coaches as a good prospect, rather than as a best mate though. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

An Tarbh
03-07-05, 12:44 AM
Shane Byrne has signed a 2 year deal with Saracens, I know we&#39;ve signed Bernard Jackman but Byrne going to London is still a loss, Jackman is just too inconsistent imo.

Saint N Sinner
03-07-05, 07:30 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Shane Byrne has signed a 2 year deal with Saracens, I know we&#39;ve signed Bernard Jackman but Byrne going to London is still a loss, Jackman is just
too inconsistent imo.[/b]

Jeeze, that bites a bit doesn&#39;t it, I know he didnt play very well in the tour, but I have seen him playing for Leinster and I think he can be one of the best hookers in the world, on occasions.

Bullitt
03-07-05, 10:03 AM
If this Lions tour is anything to go by though, Sarries will have 2 players who badly underperform.

One being Byrne, the other being Farrell.

SaintsFan_Webby
03-07-05, 10:37 AM
It depends whether Byre can show some of the form he has displayed for Ireland rather than the Lions. Be interesting to see him go up against other top class hookers such as Thompson and Titterall on a more regular basis.

el_tk
03-07-05, 12:28 PM
More great news for Leinster, this leaves them with Jackman and the Blaney brothers at hooker, none of them look real international/HEC class.

sarries fan
03-07-05, 02:06 PM
hopefully will be a good signing for saracens, i cant see ibanez hanging around now though, but to be honest he hasnt really produced any brilliant performances during his time with sarries.

el_tk
03-07-05, 06:03 PM
ha, the Leinster website has chose to completely ignore the fact that their most capped player and best forward of the lst few years has left. The editor/webmaster on the messageboard is refusing to confirm or deny the story, knowing Leinster it&#39;s probably just because no-one told him.

Here&#39;s a quote from the man himself apparently- his Irish Independant diary

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EXCLUSIVE* &#39;IN a few years I&#39;d like to be able to look back on this week and laugh, but I wouldn&#39;t be banking on it. It has been one of the most emotional periods of my life. In the here and now I&#39;m out of the starting 15, though I was grateful to survive in the squad and then get a run. And in the near future I&#39;ll be out of Leinster, out of Ireland, and earning my living somewhere else.

Shane Byrne&#39;s Diary, P2[/b]

An Tarbh
03-07-05, 06:14 PM
When they refuse to confirm or deny a story on the leinster messageboard it usually means it&#39;s a done deal.

Saint N Sinner
03-07-05, 07:07 PM
Another signing for Northampton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/irish/4646669.stm)

SaintsFan_Webby
03-07-05, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by saintsfan24_7@Jul 3 2005, 08:07 PM
Another signing for Northampton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/irish/4646669.stm)
Doesn&#39;t look as good a signing as Quinlan. Never mind, he&#39;ll still get the full Saints welcome, and hopefully he&#39;ll produce the best rugby of his career for us.

Saint N Sinner
03-07-05, 07:19 PM
Well, lets hope so.

Our jigsaw looks complete to me.

Just getting them together as a team, and playing like a team old fashioned saints style, is what we need.

SaintsFan_Webby
04-07-05, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by saintsfan24_7@Jul 3 2005, 08:19 PM
Well, lets hope so.

Our jigsaw looks complete to me.

Just getting them together as a team, and playing like a team old fashioned saints style, is what we need.
I&#39;m not suure our pack is big enough to play like we used to. Saints at their peak had an enormous pack, were able to control the game in the pack, and didn&#39;t have to rely too heavily on our backs, who were solid but not spectacular. Our current squad is a lot smaller a more mobile, with the real star players in the backs, so I think we need to play a much quicker game, with faster ball, and run the opposition around.

el_tk
06-07-05, 09:01 PM
Wasps have signed Connacht prop Peter Bracken, bringing to three the number of second-rate Irish players at the club after the arrivals of Eoin Reddan and Jeremy Staunton.

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News Story

Wasps land Bracken
06 Jul 2005*

Wasps have added to their growing Irish contingent by signing prop Peter Bracken from Connacht on a two-year deal.

Bracken, a powerful tighthead, is the third Irishman to arrive at Causeway Stadium this summer with Eoin Reddan and Jeremy Staunton joining the English champions in June.

Forwards coach Craig Dowd said: ``Peter is a good technician who gave some good props a rough ride last season.

``He is keen to succeed at the highest level, for both club and country, and moving to Wasps could give him that opportunity.&#39;&#39;

Bracken, who has represented Ireland at &#39;A&#39; and under-18 levels, is relishing the opportunity to help Wasps defend their Guinness Premiership title. ``I&#39;m very excited about moving to Wasps. Playing for such a successful team, and in the Premiership, is a huge challenge but one that I am looking forward to immensely.

``I&#39;d like to thank all the staff and supporters at Galwegians and Connacht for their help and support in the past five years, and wish them all the best for the future.&#39;&#39;[/b]

From scrum.com

sarries fan
07-07-05, 09:05 PM
Sarries sign B&#39;OD (http://saracens.com/news/article.php?id=1805)








Billy that is.................. second cousin to Brian

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Saracens are pleased to announce that they have signed promising young centre Billy O’Driscoll.

The 24-year-old joins the Men In Black just weeks after passing his medicine degree at Imperial College in London.

Having previously played at National League outfit Henley while studying, the centre is renewing his association with Saracens Head Coach Steve Diamond. O’Driscoll first played under Diamond as a youngster in Manchester and after completing his studies, has just finished his first few days as a professional.

Diamond said: “Billy is a very talented, hard working and bright young man and we’re delighted that he is joining us to be a part of the squad. I’ve known him and his family for a number of years and I’m looking forward to working with him.”

O’Driscoll comes from a family with both rugby and medical backgrounds. His parents are both doctors while his father is John O’Driscoll, the former British Lion and his second cousin is Ireland’s Brian O’Driscoll.

“Medicine and rugby runs in the family,” he explained. “I had my final exam last week and luckily I passed so that was a big relief. I’ve been playing for Henley and a bit with the Imperial College side. I’ve really been concentrating on my studies rather than rugby, but now they are out of the way I’ve got the chance to work hard on my game with Steve Diamond and the other coaches at Saracens.

“I’ve known Steve for a number of years – since I was at school actually and I played under him for Sale U21s during one summer. At that point, I was focussed on going to university and getting my medical degree and Steve said that if I was still interested in trying to pursue a career in rugby, to give him a call when I’d finished.

“I’ve got that degree now and it’s something I can go back to, but now I’ve got the chance to concentrate on rugby and I shall be working hard to make it a success.”

The London-born centre is also looking forward to the chance of playing at Vicarage Road. He said: “There’s a great atmosphere in the ground when it’s full as we saw for the game against Leicester last season. As a young player, to have the chance to play in front of a big crowd is fantastic, but I also know it gives the whole squad a lift and it will be great for as many of you as possible to sign up for season tickets and be part of it next season.”

And after his first few days training with the squad, he admitted he has a lot of hard work in front of him.

He said: “I’ve been very impressed with everything I have seen at Saracens and I will learn a lot from training alongside the likes of Hugh Vyvyan, Andy Farrell and Taine Randell to name but a few.* I’ve already noticed a step up and I have a huge amount of hard work in front of me, but it’s something I’m really looking forward to.”[/b]

drico
09-07-05, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by sarries fan@Jul 8 2005, 09:05 AM
Sarries sign B&#39;OD (http://saracens.com/news/article.php?id=1805)








Billy that is.................. second cousin to Brian

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Saracens are pleased to announce that they have signed promising young centre Billy O’Driscoll.

The 24-year-old joins the Men In Black just weeks after passing his medicine degree at Imperial College in London.

Having previously played at National League outfit Henley while studying, the centre is renewing his association with Saracens Head Coach Steve Diamond. O’Driscoll first played under Diamond as a youngster in Manchester and after completing his studies, has just finished his first few days as a professional.

Diamond said: “Billy is a very talented, hard working and bright young man and we’re delighted that he is joining us to be a part of the squad. I’ve known him and his family for a number of years and I’m looking forward to working with him.”

O’Driscoll comes from a family with both rugby and medical backgrounds. His parents are both doctors while his father is John O’Driscoll, the former British Lion and his second cousin is Ireland’s Brian O’Driscoll.

“Medicine and rugby runs in the family,” he explained. “I had my final exam last week and luckily I passed so that was a big relief. I’ve been playing for Henley and a bit with the Imperial College side. I’ve really been concentrating on my studies rather than rugby, but now they are out of the way I’ve got the chance to work hard on my game with Steve Diamond and the other coaches at Saracens.

“I’ve known Steve for a number of years – since I was at school actually and I played under him for Sale U21s during one summer. At that point, I was focussed on going to university and getting my medical degree and Steve said that if I was still interested in trying to pursue a career in rugby, to give him a call when I’d finished.

“I’ve got that degree now and it’s something I can go back to, but now I’ve got the chance to concentrate on rugby and I shall be working hard to make it a success.”

The London-born centre is also looking forward to the chance of playing at Vicarage Road. He said: “There’s a great atmosphere in the ground when it’s full as we saw for the game against Leicester last season. As a young player, to have the chance to play in front of a big crowd is fantastic, but I also know it gives the whole squad a lift and it will be great for as many of you as possible to sign up for season tickets and be part of it next season.”

And after his first few days training with the squad, he admitted he has a lot of hard work in front of him.

He said: “I’ve been very impressed with everything I have seen at Saracens and I will learn a lot from training alongside the likes of Hugh Vyvyan, Andy Farrell and Taine Randell to name but a few.* I’ve already noticed a step up and I have a huge amount of hard work in front of me, but it’s something I’m really looking forward to.” [/b][/quote]
I&#39;d say it&#39;ll be him and Andy Farrell in the centre next season, and they may rip defences to pieces-if Billy is anything like Brian that is

sarries fan
09-07-05, 10:11 AM
can&#39;t see Billy steppin straight into a shirt think he will have to prove himself first,
but agree that farrell will play 12

drico
09-07-05, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by sarries fan@Jul 9 2005, 10:11 PM
can&#39;t see Billy steppin straight into a shirt think he will have to prove himself first,
but agree that farrell will play 12
Once Andy has found his feet, he will be one of the most feared players in the GP, look what has happened since he left Wigan!

Bullitt
09-07-05, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by drico+Jul 10 2005, 05:35 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drico @ Jul 10 2005, 05:35 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-sarries fan@Jul 9 2005, 10:11 PM
can&#39;t see Billy steppin straight into a shirt think he will have to prove himself first,
but agree that farrell will play 12
Once Andy has found his feet, he will be one of the most feared players in the GP, look what has happened since he left Wigan! [/b]
pffft... He&#39;ll be a RFU nurseed failure that stuart Barnes and Andy Robinson will crawl up the arse of.

And nothing more.

drico
10-07-05, 01:05 PM
I can&#39;t wait to see Spencer playing in the Premiership for Northampton next season, i hope he&#39;ll be able to add the flair which will allow Northampton to reach the kind of form they used to have

harrison2468
12-07-05, 12:50 PM
From BBC Sport

Bristol seal double Samoan swoop

Brian Lima made his Western Samoa debut in 1990
Samoan wingers Brian Lima and David Lemi have signed for promoted Guinness Premiership club Bristol.
The 33-year-old Lima, who is nicknamed "the Chiropractor" for his ferocious defence, has signed a two-year deal.

Lemi, who joins on a one-year contract, has been top scorer in the World Sevens Series for the last two seasons and is Samoa&#39;s sevens captain.

"We&#39;ve captured the best in Samoan backline talent," said Bristol coach Richard Hill.

"We have the experience and class of Brian Lima and the talent and potential of David Lemi.

"Brian will bring a host of international experience to our backline. He will also be a massive physical presence.

"David is less well known but he is a very exciting talent. He&#39;s been a star of the World Sevens Series in the past couple of years and has been a prolific try scorer.

"He&#39;s predominantly a winger but is also capable of filling in at scrum-half. We came across him at the recent Safari Sevens in Kenya and he really caught the eye."


Two good signings - especially Lima. Can&#39;t wait to see the "Chiropractor" in action!

Bullitt
12-07-05, 02:11 PM
Wow - The WRU really f***ed over Leinster there.

harrison2468
12-07-05, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Teh Mite@Jul 13 2005, 02:11 AM
Wow - The WRU really f***ed over Leinster there.
Huh?

Bullitt
12-07-05, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by harrison2468+Jul 13 2005, 06:00 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (harrison2468 @ Jul 13 2005, 06:00 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Teh Mite@Jul 13 2005, 02:11 AM
Wow - The WRU really f***ed over Leinster there.
Huh? [/b]
Lima originally signed for Leinster - I guess with the WRU ******ing up the Celtic league they had to nullify his contract.

harrison2468
12-07-05, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Teh Mite+Jul 13 2005, 06:36 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jul 13 2005, 06:36 AM)</div>

Originally posted by harrison2468@Jul 13 2005, 06:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Teh Mite@Jul 13 2005, 02:11 AM
Wow - The WRU really f***ed over Leinster there.
Huh?
Lima originally signed for Leinster - I guess with the WRU ******ing up the Celtic league they had to nullify his contract. [/b]
Oh, I understand now. Cheers. Their loss, Bristol&#39;s gain.

Any sevens viewers know much about the other guy - David Lemi. He is top try scorer in sevens so must be ok, but then again Henry Paul springs into mind..

esoj
15-07-05, 03:04 AM
not sure if these have been shared but Llanelli seems to have been busy
the artilce is mainly about afeaki. Lemi is the real deal he carves up most in the sevens.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=4&ObjectID=10335974
Ex-Hurricane Afeaki moves to Wales


15.07.05 1.00pm


New Llanelli rugby recruit Inoke Afeaki says he is living out a dream with his move to Stradey Park.

The Tongan test captain is settling into his new life in Wales following his move from Japanese club Secom on a two-year deal.

Having spent his career so far in Japan and New Zealand, it&#39;s a big change of direction for the 32-year-old lock -- but one he is relishing.

"I wanted to come out here and have a stab at European rugby," he told the Western Mail.

"This is a different culture and, if you want to experience Welsh culture, there is nowhere better than Llanelli.

"Competition for places within the squad is tough, and that&#39;s a good thing. There are a lot of guys pushing for a start and that&#39;s what pushes you that little bit further."

Born in Tofoa, Afeaki moved to New Zealand at the age of three and was brought up in Wellington, where he learned his rugby trade before playing several seasons with the Ricoh club in Japan.

He returned to New Zealand in 1998 to play for Wellington in the NPC and was then called up by the Hurricanes for the Super 12, where he played four seasons, ahead of a move back to Japan.

Afeaki, who has 18 caps for Tonga and three for the Pacific Islanders, is one of a batch of new faces at Llanelli.

Other recruits include South African Hottie Louw, US Eagle Mike Hercus, New Zealander Regan King, Englishman Clive Stuart-Smith, as well as Welsh internationals Alix Popham and Dafydd James.

An Tarbh
15-07-05, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Teh Mite+Jul 12 2005, 07:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jul 12 2005, 07:36 PM)</div>

Originally posted by harrison2468@Jul 13 2005, 06:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Teh Mite@Jul 13 2005, 02:11 AM
Wow - The WRU really f***ed over Leinster there.
Huh?
Lima originally signed for Leinster - I guess with the WRU ******ing up the Celtic league they had to nullify his contract. [/b]
Never heard anything about Lima signing for Leinster, he had his short term contract with Munster but was released without playing. Could be wrong but I don&#39;t think he had signed for us.

harrison2468
15-07-05, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by esoj@Jul 15 2005, 03:04 PM
Lemi is the real deal he carves up most in the sevens.
Good to hear. Thanks

el_tk
15-07-05, 02:15 PM
Connacht have signed prop Frik Venter to replace Peter Bracken.

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News Story

Venter signs for Connacht
15 Jul 2005*

Connacht have completed the signing of versatile Natal Sharks front rower Frik Venter ahead of the new season.

Connacht manager Tim Allnutt expects the 23-year-old to be a good addition to his squad following the departure of Peter Bracken to Wasps last month.

``Frik&#39;s preferred position is loosehead, but he can also play both sides in the front row and as a hooker,&#39;&#39; admitted Allnutt. ``He is a good ball carrier and will give us a lot of options for the coming season.&#39;&#39;

Venter played his first ever Currie Cup match last month, helping the Sharks to a 37-23 defeat of the Boland Cavaliers at the ABSA Stadium[/b]
From scrum.com

harrison2468
22-07-05, 04:56 PM
From BBC - the tranfers so far...

Ins and Outs
A round-up of all the close-season moves as England&#39;s Premiership clubs prepare for the new campaign.

BATH

IN: David Bory (wing - Castres), Pieter Dixon (hooker - Stormers, SA), Andy Dunne (fly-half - Harlequins), Peter Short (flanker - Narbonne), Michael Stephenson (wing - Newcastle).


OUT: Jonathan Humphreys (hooker - retired, assistant coach Ospreys), Geraint Lewis (flanker - Bristol).



BRISTOL
IN: Mark Denney (centre - Castres), David Lemi (wing - Samoa), Tommy Hayes (fly-half - Worcester), Geraint Lewis (flanker - Bath), Brian Lima (centre - Munster), Gareth Llewellyn (lock - Narbonne), Mark Regan (hooker - Leeds), Andy Reay (centre - Harlequins), Lee Robinson (wing - Plymouth Albion), Mariano Sambucetti (lock - Argentina), Dan Ward-Smith (No 8 - Plymouth Albion), Roy Winters (flanker - Harlequins).

OUT: Adam Billig, Jim Brownrigg, Owen Evans, Hentie Martens, Luke Nabaro, Ed Pearce, Mark Woodrow (all released).



GLOUCESTER
IN: Patrice Collazo (prop - Toulouse), Quinton Davids (lock - Western Province, SA), Mike Tindall (centre - Bath), Ludovic Mercier (fly-half - Pau), Quinton Davids (lock - Western Province, SA), Bryan Redpath (assistant coach - Sale), Peter Richards (scrum-half - Wasps), Rob Thirlby (wing - Penzance & Newlyn).

OUT: Dave Ellis (defence coach), Andy Gomarsall (scrum-half - Worcester), Nigel Melville (director of rugby).


LEEDS
IN: Gordon Bulloch (hooker - Glasgow), Roland De Marigny (full-back - Italy), James Isaacson (prop - Newcastle), Justin Marshall (scrum-half - Canterbury, NZ), Daryl Powell (assistant coach - Leeds Rhinos), Roland Reid (flanker - London Irish).

OUT: Jon Callard (assistant coach - RFU Academy), Matt Holt (prop - retired), Mark Regan (hooker - Bristol).



LEICESTER
IN: Leo Cullen (lock - Leinster), Ian Humphreys (fly-half - Belfast Harlequins), Shane Jennings (flanker - Leinster), Alex Moreno (prop - Brive), Ian Nimmo (lock - Heriot&#39;s).

OUT: Neil Back (retired - now assistant coach), Martin Johnson (retired).



LONDON IRISH
IN: Toby Booth (forwards coach), Danie Coetzee (hooker - Blue Bulls, SA), Michael Collins (prop - Waikato, NZ), Riki Flutey (fly-half - Wellington, NZ), Juan Manuel Leguizamon (No 8 - San Isidro, Arg), Olivier Magne (flanker - Clermont-Ferrand, Fra), Brian Smith (director of rugby), Ben Willis (scrum-half - Beziers, Fra), James Storey (centre).


OUT: Geoff Appleford (centre - Northampton), Gary Gold (head coach - Western Province, SA), Roland Reid (flanker - Leeds).


NEWCASTLE
IN: Anthony Elliott (wing - Rotherham), Owen Finegan (flanker - ACT Brumbies), James Hoyle (wing/centre - Sale), Robbie Morris (prop - Northampton), Andy Perry (lock - Plymouth Albion), Tino Paoletti (prop - Plymouth Albion).


OUT: Michael Stephenson (wing - Bath), Epi Taione (wing/centre - Sale), Craig Hamilton (lock - Glasgow), Semo Sititi (No 8 - Borders), Galo Alvarez Quinones (prop - released).



NORTHAMPTON
IN: Geoff Appleford (centre - London Irish), Luke Harbut (prop - trial), Sean Lamont (wing - Glasgow), Seamus Mallon (centre - Ulster), Colin Noon (prop - Leicester), James Percival (lock - Worcester), David Quinlan (centre - Leinster), Carlos Spencer (fly-half - Auckland).


OUT: Shane Drahm (fly-half - Worcester), Corne Krige (flanker - retired), Ed O&#39;Donoghue (flanker - Worcester), Marc Stcherbina (centre - Cardiff Blues).


SALE
IN: Valentin Courrent (scrum-half - Brive), Mark Taylor (centre - Llanelli Scarlets), Epi Taione (centre - Newcastle), Daniel Larrachea (fly-half - Bayonne), Lionel Faure (prop - Section Pauloise), Nathan Bonner-Evans (number eight - Neath Swansea Ospreys), Elvis Seveali&#39;i (centre/wing - Neath Swansea Ospreys), Nick Wakley (full-back - Doncaster)


OUT: Mike Hercus (fly-half - Llanelli Scarlets), Bryan Redpath (scrum-half - retired, assistant coach Gloucester), Chris Rhys-Jones (centre - St Helens RL), Pierre Caillet (second/back row - Beziers), Josh Taumalolo (centre/full-back - Coventry), James Moore (full-back - Coventry), James Hoyle (centre - Newcastle), Phil Davies (back row - Bayonne)


SARACENS
IN: Andy Farrell (Wigan RL), Shane Byrne (hooker - Leinster), Billy O&#39;Driscoll (centre - Henly).


OUT: Raphael Ibanez (hooker - released).


WASPS
IN: Peter Bracken (prop- Connacht), Leon Holden (technical coach - NZ), Ian McGeechan (director of rugby - SRU), Eoin Reddan (scrum-half), Jeremy Staunton (fly-half/full-back - Harlequins).

OUT: Craig Dowd (retired, now forwards coach), Warren Gatland (director of rugby - Waikato, NZ), Trevor Leota (hooker), Peter Richards (scrum-half - Gloucester).



WORCESTER
IN: Emiliano Bergamaschi (prop), Shane Drahm (fly-half - Northampton), Chris Fortey (hooker - Gloucester), Andy Gomarsall (scrum-half - Gloucester), Kai Horstmann (No 8 - Harlequins), Nicolas Le Roux (full-back - Brive), Ed O&#39;Donaghue (lock/flanker - Northampton), Uche Oduoza (wing), Jonny Tuamoheloa (flanker - Newbury), Mark Tucker (centre/wing - Northampton).


OUT: Neil Cole, Ben Daly, Mark Gabey, Chris Hall, Jon Higgins (all released), Tommy Hayes (fly-half - Bristol), Neil Lyman (prop - retired), Brad Macleod-Henderson, Neil Mason, Daren O&#39;Leary (all released), James Percival (lock - Northampton), Duncan Roke (released), Clive Stuart-Smith (scrum-half - Llanelli Scarlets), Giscard Pieters, Paul Sampson (both released).

Symclaw
24-07-05, 12:14 PM
ha ha. read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_unio...nal/4712193.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/4712193.stm)

harrison2468
01-08-05, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Symclaw@Jul 25 2005, 12:14 AM
ha ha. read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_unio...nal/4712193.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/4712193.stm)
LOL! Don&#39;t think so just yet - he&#39;s only 26, mayb in afew years. There is still a WC in 2 yrs time so mayb after that.

DonBilly
02-08-05, 05:06 PM
From the French sporting newspaper L&#39;Equipe, the updated transfers for the Top14 teams:

Agen:

Departures: Mathieu Barrau (Castres), Loïc Fior (Auch), Christophe Coro (Béziers), Sébastien Bonetti (Brive), Christophe Clarac (Auch), Julien Turini (Colomiers).

Arrivals: Alessio Galasso, Nicolas Morlaes and Robert Froissard (coach) (Castres), Cezar Popescu (Tarbes, Romanian), Dave Vainqueur (Béziers), Julien Tilloles (Bayonne), Régis Sonnes (coach)

Aviron Bayonnais:

Departures: Thierry Mentières (coach) (Pau), Laloaoa Milford (Castres, Samoan), Daniel Larretchea (Sale Sharks), Julien Tilloles (Agen), Lisandro Arbizu (Argentinian)and Stéphane Delpuech (Pau), Marc Jourdaine (Albi), Sylvain Jonnet (Montauban), Yvan Abbadie and Sébastien Caujolle (Tarbes), Muldubeltez and Julien Hourie-Claverie (Tyrosse)

Arrivals: Hecke (Bourgoin), Grant Hill (Grenoble, New Zealander), Benjamin Lhande and Richard Dourthe (Castres), Eduard Coetzee (Natal Sharks, South African), Henri-Pierre Vermis (Béziers), Fraser (Canterbury, New Zealander), Viatcheslav Gratchev (Russian) and Xavier Péméja (coach) (Montauban), Mathieu Siro (Narbonne), Pila Fifita (Coventry, Tongan), Afato So&#39;oalo (Linwood, New Zealander), Mefin Davies (Sale Sharks, Welsh), Leo Lafaiali&#39;i (Parma, Samoan)

Biarritz Olympique:

Departures: Guillaume Boussès (Bourgoin), Marc Lièvremont (coach), Christophe Milhères, Bruno Hiriart, Emmanuel Menieu and Mathieu Maillard (Dax), Guillaume Serres (Auch), Philippe Bernat-Salles (Tarbes), Laurent Mazas, Sotele Puleoto and Jean-Michel Gonzalez (retired), Thibault Lacroix (Stade Français).

Arrivals: Denis Lison (Grenoble), Nicolás Cariza (Rosario, Argentinian), Benjamin Noirot (Dax), Sereli Bobo (Parma, Fijian), Thibault Duvalet (Périgueux), Haig Sare (Warringah, Australian)

Bourgoin Jailleu:

Departures: Laurent Seigne (coach) and Patrick Chassaing ( coach) (Castres), Bernard Faure (coach) and Pierre Raschi (retired), Laurent Soucaze (Béziers), Renaud Boyoud (Dax), Grant Estherhuizen (Golden Lions, South African), Frederico Pucciarello (Argentinian, Italian international), Christopher Ruiz and Hecke (Bayonne).

Arrivals: Christophe Urios (coach) (Castres), Guillaume Boussès (Biarritz), Laurent Baluc-Rittener (Narbonne), Pablo Cardinali (Argentinian) and Davit Khinchagishvili (Georgian) (Béziers), Carlo Del Fava (Parma, South African), Roger Randle (Waikato, New Zealander), Wessel Jooste (Aix, South African), Nicolas Carmona (Grenoble).

Brive:

Departures: Julien Laharrague (Perpignan), Alain Penaud (player/coach) (Lyon), Naves (Lyon), Valentin Courrent (Sale Sharks), Alejandro Moreno (LeicesterTigers, Argentinian), Nicolas Le Roux (Worcester), John Welborn (Western Force, Australian), Régis Lespinas (Montpellier), Eric Bouti (player/coach) (Malemort), Sébastien Laloo (Tarbes), Florent Cazeaux (Mont-de-Marsan), Emmanuel Amapakabo (Saracens, Ivorean), Arnaud Ferreira (Aurillac).

Arrivals: Maxime Petitjean (Aurillac), Charl van Rensburg and Johan van Zyl (Natal Sharks, South Africans), Pedrisor Toderasc (Oyonnax), Sébastien Bonetti (Agen), Yohan Dalla Riva and Xavier Sadourny (Castres), Rudy Cheron (Perpignan), Tim Clark (NSW Waratahs, Australian), Laurent Rodriguez (coach) (Pau).

Castres Olympique

Departures: Christophe Urios (coach) (Bourgoin), Christian Gajan (coach) (Japan), Justin Fitzpatrick (Ulster), Richard Dourthe (Bayonne), Benjamin Lhande (Bayonne), Jacques Deen (Japan, South African), Mark Denney (Bristol), Nicolas Raffault (Bristol), Alessio Galasso, Robert Froissart (coach) and Nicolas Morlaes (Agen), David Bory (Bath), David Barrier (Clermont Auvergne), Mario Ledesma (Clermont Auvergne, Argentinian), Mauricio Reggiardo (retired, Argentinian), Yohan Dalla Riva (Brive), Xavier Sadourny (Brive), Grégory Arganese, Yannick Caballero (Montauban), Stéphane de Besombes (retired).

Arrivals: LaurentSeigne (coach) (Bourgoin), Patrick Chassaing ( coach) (Bourgoin), Mathieu Barrau (Agen), Jean-Baptiste Peyras-Loustalet (Pau), Florian Faure, Karim Ghezal and Julien Puricelli (Grenoble), Laloaoa Milford (Bayonne, Samoan), David Attoub (Clermont Auvergne), David Roumieu (Montauban), Akvsenti Giorgadze (Rovigo, Georgian), Phil Cristophers (Leeds), Carl Hoeft (Otago, New Zealander), Yann Fior (Mont-de-Marsan), Romi Ropati (Japan, New Zealander), Ramiro Pez (Bath, Argentinian Italian international), Laurent Cadau (Aix).


Clermont Auvergne:

Departures: Olivier Saisset (coach) (Béziers), Olivier Magne (London Irish), David Attoub (Castres), Kuzbik (Montpellier), Marc Raynaud (Montauban), Gérald Merceron (La Rochelle), Lyonel Vaïtanaki (Montauban, Noumean), David Ashvetia, Romain Carmignani and Sébastien Morel (La Rochelle), Geoffroy Messina (Stade Français), Vincent Deniau (Dax), Hottie Louw (Llanelli, South African), Fabrice Brandon, Cédric Soulette, Fabien Abella and Philippe Martin (Béziers).

Arrivals: Jamie Cudmore (Grenoble), Sam Broomhall (Canterbury, New Zealander), Pierre Manuel Garcia (Narbonne), Jean Baptiste Dambielle (Auch), Mario Ledesma (Castres, Argentinian), Breyton Paulse (Western Province, South Africa), David Barrier (Castres), Gonzalo Canale (Treviso, Argentinian Italian internatuional), Seti Kiole (Gloucester, Tongan)

Montpellier:

Departures: Philemon Toleafoa (Waikato, New Zealander), Laurent Armand (SBUC), Denis Navizet (retired), Christian Chemin (Dax), Bertrand Guilloux and Aurélien Rossi (Oyonnax), Yannick Saladié, Jérémy Valls, Jean-Michel Meunier and Pierre Tachella (Nîmes), Gregor Townsend (Borders, Scottish international), Sylvain Jouve (Colomiers), Wilfred Maccari (Aubenas, coach), Soso Nikolaenko (Parma, Georgian).


Arrivals: Sébastien Kuzbik (Clermont Auvergne), Nicolas Descamps (Auch), Nicolas Grelon and Sébastien Mercier (Perpignan), Dabvid Aucagne, Rickus Lubbe, Sébastien Petit, and Anthony Vigna (Grenoble), Crane (Viadana), Régis Lespinas (Brive), Michel Boussuge (Paris University), Mamuka Gorgodze (Georgia), Vassili Bost (Périgueux), Codlin (Northampton).


Narbonne:

Departures: David Douy (Toulon), Laurent Baluc-Rittener (Bourgoin), Pierre Manuel Garcia (Clermont Auvergne, and Argentinian), Laurent Ferrères and Pierre-Olivier Julien (Béziers), Louis Koen (Western Province, South Africa, as a kicking coach), Marc Dehaese (Carcassonne), Gareth Llewellyn (Bristol), Welsh international, Peter Short (Bath, English), Mathieu Siro (Bayonne), Sébastien Petigiani (Tarbes).

Arrivals: Jason Hooper (Auch, a New Zealander), Christian Labit, Lionel Mazars and Julien Patey (Toulouse), Olivier Benassis, Thomas Bouquié and Christopher Ruiz (Perpignan), Cédric Desbrosse (Béziers), Jaco Gouws (Natal, South Africa), Grégory Mahé (Stade Français), Dwayne Haare (Randwick, Australian), Springer (North Harbour, New Zealander), Lei Tomiki (Randwick, Australian).

Section Paloise:

Departures: Marius Tincu (Perpignan, Romanian), Lionel Faure (Sale Sharks), Jean-Baptiste Peyras-Loustalet (Castres), Ludovic Mercier (Gloucester), Peter Giroud and Philippe Carbonneau (Dax), Stuart (Mendoza), Rida Jahouer (Montauban), Laurent Rodriguez (coach) (Brive).

Arrivals: Daniel and Ramiro Pez (Argentinian) (Bath), Stéphane Delpuech and Thierry Mentières (coach) (Bayonne), Karl Rudzki and Ace Tiatia (Harlequins, New Zealander), Gonzalo Quesada and Rudy Charton-Collier (Stade Français, Argentinian), Abdel Boutati (Toulouse, Moroccan).

US Arlequin Perpignan:

Departures: Sébastien Mercier (Montpellier), Nicolas Grelon (Montpellier), Augustin Petrichei (Béziers, Romanian), Mick O&#39;Driscoll (Munster), Lodovic Loustau (Toulon), Olivier Benassis, Thomas Bouquié and Christopher Ruiz (Narbonne), Jérôme Labat (Béziers), Leon van den Heever (Grenoble, South African), Tjoppie van den Heever South African, German Bustos (Argentinian), Dan Luger (Englishman) and Rudy Cheron (Brive).

Arrivals: Julien Laharrague (Brive), Marius Tincu (Pau), Nathan Hines (Edinburgh, Australian), Guillaume Bortolaso (Auch), Lucas Ostiglia (Padova, Argentinian), Sylvain Dupuy (Toulouse), James Pritchard (Plymouth Albion, Canadian), Sereli Bobo (Parma, Fijian), Villani Vaky (Parma), Agustin Lopresti (Aix).

Stade Français

Departures: Olivier Brouzet (retired), Juan Carlos Bado (Montauban, Uruguayan), Regan King (, New Zealander), Raphaël Poulain (retired), Grégory Mahé (Narbonne), Sacha Marot (Grenoble, South African), Bastien Sipielski (Stade Bordelais), Gonzalo Quesada (Argentinian) and Charton-Collier (Pau), Sydney Galopin (Métro Racing 92)

Arrivals: Sergio Parisse (Treviso, Italian), Pablo Henn (Hindú Club, Argentinian), Geoffroy Messina (Clermont Auvergne), Julien Saubade (Dax), Thibault Lacroix (Biarritz), Morgan Williams (Saracens, Canadian), Boela du Plooy (Cats, South African).

Toulon

Departures: Stéphane Franchini (retired), Damien Delmonte, Renaud Férien, and Francois Ruben de Courtieux (Limoges), André da Silva and Jean-Michel Moraitis (La Seyne), Pascal Bazani (Carqueiranne)

Arrivals: David Douy (Narbonne), Eusebio Guinazu (Mendoza, Argentina), Ludovic Lousteau (Perpignan), Noel Curnier (Gloucester), Joane Toevalu (Tarbes), Van Rensburg, Smit, Julien Capdeillayre (La Seyne), Franck Comba (Aix)

Stade Toulousain

Departures: Sylvain Dupuy (Perpignan), Christian Labit, Lionel Mazars and Julien Patey (Narbonne), Patrice Collazo (Gloucester), Florian Denos (Auch), Julian Fiorini, Dragos Dima (Romanian), Abdel Boutati (Pau, Moroccan).

Arrivals: Yannick Nyanga (Béziers), Grégory Menkarska (Auch), Aidan McCullen (Leinster).

Boy
03-08-05, 09:41 AM
Castres must be desperate if they&#39;re signing Herr Christophers and Ramiro Pez.

DonBilly
03-08-05, 01:28 PM
Well I don&#39;t know these players but I was told that Ramiro Pez played very well for Italy when they defeated Argentina in Argentina before going to Australia.

el_tk
03-08-05, 01:42 PM
Yeah, Pez is class, he just never got a chance for Leicester

robbinho
03-08-05, 04:14 PM
Ibanez signs for W*sps. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/4655121.stm)

Boy
03-08-05, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by el_tk@Aug 4 2005, 01:42 AM
Yeah, Pez is class, he just never got a chance for Leicester
We had him for the second half of last season and he was arse. If, as a 10, you can&#39;t get in a team ahead of Chris Malone (once described in the national press as having all the pace of an ageing wombat), you should realise that something is wrong.

harrison2468
03-08-05, 08:28 PM
Ageing wombat lol! U guys at Bath gotta hav a lot of faith in Dunne as if he backfires, ur stuck with the reliable drop-goals of Malone for yet another season.

Phil Christophers isn&#39;t a bad player, a bit slight but very agile. Got a few Eng caps a few yrs bac.

Boy
03-08-05, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by harrison2468@Aug 4 2005, 08:28 AM
Ageing wombat lol! U guys at Bath gotta hav a lot of faith in Dunne as if he backfires, ur stuck with the reliable drop-goals of Malone for yet another season.
If Dunne backfires, Connolly (being the champagne rugby brain that he is) will probably stick Malone back in, but Barkley&#39;s said on numerous occasions that he prefers playing 10 instead of 12. If we can keep our backline fit enough, we should be able to change things about a bit.

If not, we&#39;ll have Malone chipping away.

Glory days, how we miss thee...

robbinho
04-08-05, 09:07 AM
We&#39;ll be struggling for class in the backs even more now as Robbie Fleck has had to retire thru injury.

Fleckie (http://www.bathrugby.com/asp/news/newsitem.asp?id=4383)

harrison2468
04-08-05, 09:41 AM
Always sad news to hear a player retiring thru injury.

Boy
04-08-05, 08:44 PM
It&#39;s a weird one. When he first got injured, they said 2-4 weeks, then he just never came back. He signed a new two year deal in February and started pre-season, and now calls it a day.

The thing is, there&#39;s practically zero chance of getting a replacement from the NH, as everyone&#39;s already started to prepare for the coming season, so in the unlikely event that Brownsword puts his hand in his pocket, we&#39;ll have to look to the Currie Cup or NPC.

robbinho
08-08-05, 03:53 PM
Couple more players for the Brizzlers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/4132076.stm)

Bullitt
08-08-05, 04:40 PM
Surely all these non-EU players Bristol are signing is going to harm them in the long run; They can&#39;t all have ancent visas.

harrison2468
08-08-05, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by robbinho@Aug 9 2005, 03:53 AM
Couple more players for the Brizzlers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/4132076.stm)
Rauluni a gd signing, but not the 1 most Bristol fans had been hopin 4(Pichot)/

Dont know anythin bout the other guy, but we needed a prop, and Argentines arent bad props in general. 1 more signing should be another prop an that shuld b it.

Boy
08-08-05, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Teh Mite@Aug 9 2005, 04:40 AM
Surely all these non-EU players Bristol are signing is going to harm them in the long run; They can&#39;t all have ancent visas.
I think the thing is that Richard Hill and the Bristol staff had a three year plan to restore Bristol in the top flight, but they got promoted after just two, meaning they had to really step up their recruitment. Hill&#39;s said he&#39;s like to make Bristol a local club again, being fed by the clubs around the area.

harrison2468
08-08-05, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Boy+Aug 9 2005, 06:59 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Boy @ Aug 9 2005, 06:59 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Teh Mite@Aug 9 2005, 04:40 AM
Surely all these non-EU players Bristol are signing is going to harm them in the long run; They can&#39;t all have ancent visas.
I think the thing is that Richard Hill and the Bristol staff had a three year plan to restore Bristol in the top flight, but they got promoted after just two, meaning they had to really step up their recruitment. Hill&#39;s said he&#39;s like to make Bristol a local club again, being fed by the clubs around the area. [/b]
Hill said he wanted 2 sign 3 types of players:

1) Local/past loyal players who would die 4 the club

2) Players who will fit in with the more free-flowin game Bristol will try to play

3) Talented, young English players.


Promotion nxt yr had been the target, but this yr is gd, especially as Quins came down with a parachute payment and therefore kept most of their team.

robbinho
09-08-05, 11:20 AM
Got to be slightly difficult for Bris really, as much as you want to get talented Enlgish players, they won&#39;t have the money to fo it, so there is little alternative to go for foreigners, especially as pacific islanders don&#39;t count as Overseas players!

harrison2468
09-08-05, 12:05 PM
we hav recruited Shaun Perry, Dan Ward-Smith, Rory Teague an Andy Reay who r all English. An we hav kept the link between Argentina an the club, hence the new Argentine in the squad.

We culd spend all of our dosh on 1 or 2 players like Marshall an Magne, but what happens when injuries kic in - no squad depth. Hill has recruited well IMO with out breaking the bank, which we did last time we came up.

robbinho
09-08-05, 01:23 PM
I wasn&#39;t criticizing, just saying that it&#39;s good to have a goal of local talent, but probably very difficult to fulfill.

harrison2468
09-08-05, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by robbinho@Aug 10 2005, 01:23 AM
I wasn&#39;t criticizing, just saying that it&#39;s good to have a goal of local talent, but probably very difficult to fulfill.
dont worry, i didnt see it as critizing anyway. As the gulf between GP an ND1 is v.large, and we r a yr early, a lot of players have been brought in to try and combat this. The links with the local clubs and Auckland rugby is gd 4 the future thou.

harrison2468
09-08-05, 04:47 PM
Another swoop in rugby league (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/4134368.stm)

robbinho
10-08-05, 10:10 AM
Can&#39;t say I&#39;m mad keen on your new shirts either (can no-one make a kit with normal f*cking hoops!) and the sponsors logo makes it look a bit messy.

harrison2468
10-08-05, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by robbinho@Aug 10 2005, 10:10 PM
Can&#39;t say I&#39;m mad keen on your new shirts either (can no-one make a kit with normal f*cking hoops!) and the sponsors logo makes it look a bit messy.
Don&#39;t buy one then!

Personally I like it, but it is a strange one! You will hate it even more when it crosses your tryline numerous times at the Mem on the 4th.....

SaintsFan_Webby
10-08-05, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by harrison2468@Aug 10 2005, 02:10 PM
Personally I like it, but it is a strange one! You will hate it even more when it crosses your tryline numerous times at the Mem on the 4th.....
Do Bristol usually warm up in front of the away fans then?

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

harrison2468
10-08-05, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by SaintsFan_Webby+Aug 11 2005, 03:09 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SaintsFan_Webby @ Aug 11 2005, 03:09 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-harrison2468@Aug 10 2005, 02:10 PM
Personally I like it, but it is a strange one!* You will hate it even more when it crosses your tryline numerous times at the Mem on the 4th.....
Do Bristol usually warm up in front of the away fans then?

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif [/b]
Lol! U wait for the 30th of October and the 30th of April when Lima eats your beloved Spencer http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Bullitt
10-08-05, 05:24 PM
We&#39;ll just set Johnny Howard on him! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

SaintsFan_Webby
10-08-05, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by harrison2468+Aug 10 2005, 04:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (harrison2468 @ Aug 10 2005, 04:19 PM)</div>

Originally posted by SaintsFan_Webby@Aug 11 2005, 03:09 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-harrison2468@Aug 10 2005, 02:10 PM
Personally I like it, but it is a strange one!* You will hate it even more when it crosses your tryline numerous times at the Mem on the 4th.....
Do Bristol usually warm up in front of the away fans then?

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
Lol! U wait for the 30th of October and the 30th of April when Lima eats your beloved Spencer http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif [/b]
He&#39;s not beloved just yet. Still has to prove himself.

Reihana on the other hand, now that bloke is a Saints icon.

esoj
10-08-05, 08:12 PM
holah could be at saracens after his contract expires at the end of this year


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=4&ObjectID=10340251
Another big name All Black is poised to move offshore.

It is understood Waikato and Chiefs flanker Marty Holah is in negotiations with an English club, believed to be Saracens.

SaintsFan_Webby
10-08-05, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by esoj@Aug 10 2005, 09:12 PM
holah could be at saracens after his contract expires at the end of this year


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=4&ObjectID=10340251
Another big name All Black is poised to move offshore.

It is understood Waikato and Chiefs flanker Marty Holah is in negotiations with an English club, believed to be Saracens.
Could be a good signing for Sarries to make. Although he is a Kiwi, so expect to see the Saints sniffing around any possible move at some stage. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

esoj
10-08-05, 08:28 PM
well going to saints would lessen the blow a bit but not much. Holah is simply class and the 2nd best no 7 in nz behind mcCaw who is arugably the worlds best 7. Holah did play with reihana a bit before he moved over so a move to saints may happen. Also spencer and harding are over at saints as well

SaintsFan_Webby
10-08-05, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by esoj@Aug 10 2005, 09:28 PM
well going to saints would lessen the blow a bit but not much. Holah is simply class and the 2nd best no 7 in nz behind mcCaw who is arugably the worlds best 7. Holah did play with reihana a bit before he moved over so a move to saints may happen. Also spencer and harding are over at saints as well
Exactly. I wouldn&#39;t be at all suprised, or saddened for that matter, to see our Kiwi contingent rise further.

harrison2468
10-08-05, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Teh Mite@Aug 11 2005, 05:24 AM
We&#39;ll just set Johnny Howard on him! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

Not Johnny Howard http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif He will clinge onto Lima&#39;s leg like a little terrier humping a bloke&#39;s leg. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Spencer is a top player on form but we all now he blows hot and cold very quickly. The job for Northampton is to first get quality ball consistently and secondly make sure Spencer settles quickly and well. Who will be your chief goalkicker btw, Reihana?

esoj
10-08-05, 10:15 PM
reihana can kick and so can spencer but spencer plays better without the extra pressure of goal kicking. his goal klicking can be like his overall game though either everythign goes well or he misses nearly every kick.

SaintsFan_Webby
11-08-05, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by harrison2468@Aug 10 2005, 10:13 PM
Spencer is a top player on form but we all now he blows hot and cold very quickly. The job for Northampton is to first get quality ball consistently and secondly make sure Spencer settles quickly and well. Who will be your chief goalkicker btw, Reihana?
Reihana is an 80% goal kicker, so I wouldn&#39;t be suprised to see him take on the responsibility.

However, Spencer has as a coach, one of the modern game&#39;s all time great goal kickers, Paul Grayson. I would imagine Grays has been working closely with Spencer to try and refine his technique, giving the team the option of either kicker.

esoj
11-08-05, 09:08 AM
indeed but not to worry with spencer there the tries will come and thus no need for a decent goalkicker

robbinho
11-08-05, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by harrison2468@Aug 11 2005, 01:10 AM
You will hate it even more when it crosses your tryline numerous times at the Mem on the 4th.....
We&#39;ll just see about that then, won&#39;t we. If your play is as amateurish as your ticket office (Hello, Mr Henderson? We&#39;re just calling from Bris RFC about your ticket order, you don&#39;t seem to have specified which game you want tickets for..... oh no wait, you have, it says it in big letters here right in the middle at the top....sorry) then we&#39;ll have little to worry about. And as for your chaps scoring tries, well, you&#39;ll have to get the Egg off our pack, and not even our backs have worked out how to do that yet!

harrison2468
11-08-05, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by robbinho+Aug 11 2005, 09:43 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (robbinho @ Aug 11 2005, 09:43 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-harrison2468@Aug 11 2005, 01:10 AM
You will hate it even more when it crosses your tryline numerous times at the Mem on the 4th.....
We&#39;ll just see about that then, won&#39;t we. If your play is as amateurish as your ticket office (Hello, Mr Henderson? We&#39;re just calling from Bris RFC about your ticket order, you don&#39;t seem to have specified which game you want tickets for..... oh no wait, you have, it says it in big letters here right in the middle at the top....sorry) then we&#39;ll have little to worry about. And as for your chaps scoring tries, well, you&#39;ll have to get the Egg off our pack, and not even our backs have worked out how to do that yet! [/b]
Lol! Yeah, our marketing, admin side of the club is utter ****e.

Getting the egg off your boys will be hard, but if you have one less player througha sending off in the pack then it will be much easier. Hence we feed a certain second row of yours a finger...

robbinho
11-08-05, 11:31 AM
That&#39;ll be Danny "Never-served-a-domestic-ban-in-his-career" Grewcock you&#39;re referring to then, will it?

leicester
11-08-05, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by robbinho@Aug 11 2005, 09:43 PM
And as for your chaps scoring tries, well, you&#39;ll have to get the Egg off our pack, and not even our backs have worked out how to do that yet!
Funniest thing I&#39;ve read on here in ages! Nice one, Rob.

Boy
11-08-05, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by harrison2468+Aug 11 2005, 10:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (harrison2468 @ Aug 11 2005, 10:23 PM)</div>

Originally posted by robbinho@Aug 11 2005, 09:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-harrison2468@Aug 11 2005, 01:10 AM
You will hate it even more when it crosses your tryline numerous times at the Mem on the 4th.....
We&#39;ll just see about that then, won&#39;t we. If your play is as amateurish as your ticket office (Hello, Mr Henderson? We&#39;re just calling from Bris RFC about your ticket order, you don&#39;t seem to have specified which game you want tickets for..... oh no wait, you have, it says it in big letters here right in the middle at the top....sorry) then we&#39;ll have little to worry about. And as for your chaps scoring tries, well, you&#39;ll have to get the Egg off our pack, and not even our backs have worked out how to do that yet!
Lol! Yeah, our marketing, admin side of the club is utter ****e. [/b]
We tried to get tickets for the Bris V Bath game at Ashton Gate a couple of years ago, which was a total sell out. We got our application in, but then heard nothing, until I spent an entire day on the phone getting passed from pillar to post to be told "You definately haven&#39;t got tickets."

The next bank statement showed a deduction from Bristol Rugby for £20-something for tickets to Bristol V Bath at Ashton Gate.

Thieving Brizzlers. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif

As for Holah to Sarries; you&#39;d think he&#39;d hang around to the World Cup so he can experience the traditional All Black Semi Final Choke.

esoj
11-08-05, 08:42 PM
well here seems to bit of cxonfusion if he is actually going.

http://www.tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/603733
Holah comes off contract with the NZRU and Waitako at the end of the year, and he has been linked with Saracens.

However Rob Brady says, while Holah has attracted overseas interest this year, there have been no firm offers and he is expecting an offer from the NZRU in the next week or so.

Bullitt
11-08-05, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by harrison2468+Aug 11 2005, 09:13 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (harrison2468 @ Aug 11 2005, 09:13 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Teh Mite@Aug 11 2005, 05:24 AM
We&#39;ll just set Johnny Howard on him! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

Not Johnny Howard http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif He will clinge onto Lima&#39;s leg like a little terrier humping a bloke&#39;s leg. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif [/b]
I assume you didn&#39;t see some of Howards big hit&#39;s last season while Sharky was suspended http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif ...


Wait... An instant problem with my theory... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif

Saint N Sinner
12-08-05, 06:34 AM
Yeah, I recall his tackling superb against Llanelli at home in the NOW boring Heinekin CUp. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

harrison2468
20-08-05, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by robbinho@Aug 11 2005, 11:31 PM
That&#39;ll be Danny "Never-served-a-domestic-ban-in-his-career" Grewcock you&#39;re referring to then, will it?
Makes up for it on the international scene in a sport where red cards are extremely infrequent. Nah, Danny&#39;s a good player but every1 knows he is way too easy to wind up.

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Thieving Brizzlers.[/b]

Careful! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Wait... An instant problem with my theory...*[/b]

I&#39;m confluxed... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

esoj
30-08-05, 10:31 PM
hoefts moves to france is now official.

http://www.allblacks.com/index.cfm?layout=...ewsArticle=2531 (http://www.allblacks.com/index.cfm?layout=displayNews&newsArticle=2531)