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Ripper
17-09-05, 12:46 AM
5 Weeks into the NPC and Im already going to say it.

THE BLUES WILL WIN THE FIRST SUPER 14.

There is no way we can lose it, we are stacked at every single postion, bar possibly Fly Half, but we have Luke McAlister, and quite frankly, thats all you need.

The Line Up we will be able to pull out next year will make the 2003 Team look like a Manawatu Practice Squad.

1. Woodcock
2. Mealamu
3. Afoa/Mr T
4. Rawlison/Mika
5. A. Willaims
6. Kaino
7. Braid
8. Williams

9. Devine/Moa

10. McAlister
11. Rocokoko
12. Sam
13. Atiga/Nacewa
14. Howlett
15. Ward/Nacewa (Depending if he wants to go to the Canes)

In every postion we will have either current or former All Blacks (Williams and Ward will be on the end of year Tour mark my words), Rawlison apparently was approached by Jake White, and Nacewa wouldve pushed for an end of year spot if he hadnt played for a couple of seconds for Fiji in the 03 RWC.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
17-09-05, 01:09 AM
koonwaiyou...tipoki...on the bench

NZL Fan
17-09-05, 01:18 AM
Big call this far out, but not that unreasonable...........

I rate Tuitavake better then the two possible centres you have included, hopefully he can be convinced/is selected in the Blues squad next year.......Tipoki would be an excellent back utility bench player as well.

.......also like the look of the new Auckland halfback, appears to have a good pass and sound option taking.

Not so convinced as you on how good Ward is though - he has never really captured that top form he produced a few years ago when Auckland won both NPC and Ranfurly shield.

That could have been due to the fact both Auckland and the Canes started to use him more on the wing rather then his preferred fullback slot - I'll watch him with interest, he appears to me to be a player that plays better when he is also the goalkicker............his main problem for me is his knack of taking some poor options in attack and in turn he too often gets turned over of possession/penalised for not releasing the ball.

Zambaman
17-09-05, 02:00 PM
LOL, did you see Taranaki? I wouldn't be crowing too early if I were you.

umosay
17-09-05, 03:20 PM
Yeah, what happened Auckland?

Chiefs will hammer the Blues again..

Ripper
17-09-05, 09:45 PM
Minor setback, we had to lose sometime.

Chiefs hammer the Blues? I suppose just like the way Waikato and BOP hammered Auckland...

sambãd5
18-09-05, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Ripper@Sep 17 2005, 11:46 AM
5 Weeks into the NPC and Im already going to say it.

THE BLUES WILL WIN THE FIRST SUPER 14.

There is no way we can lose it, we are stacked at every single postion, bar possibly Fly Half, but we have Luke McAlister, and quite frankly, thats all you need.

The Line Up we will be able to pull out next year will make the 2003 Team look like a Manawatu Practice Squad.

1. Woodcock
2. Mealamu
3. Afoa/Mr T
4. Rawlison/Mika
5. A. Willaims
6. Kaino
7. Braid
8. Williams

9. Devine/Moa

10. McAlister
11. Rocokoko
12. Sam
13. Atiga/Nacewa
14. Howlett
15. Ward/Nacewa (Depending if he wants to go to the Canes)

In every postion we will have either current or former All Blacks (Williams and Ward will be on the end of year Tour mark my words), Rawlison apparently was approached by Jake White, and Nacewa wouldve pushed for an end of year spot if he hadnt played for a couple of seconds for Fiji in the 03 RWC.
yeah, i would bet money on auckland winning.

wookcock
mealamu
afoa
macdonald/ rawlanson / hatu / mika
williams
collins
braid
kaino

moa
mcallister
rocokoko
tuitupo (very good form at the moment)
tupuki ę/ tuitavaki
howlett / koonyaoo / tupuki
ward / nacewa / howett


as for cheifs beating us, didnt north harbor thrash bop this week, and auckland thrash waikato last?

rc_souljah
18-09-05, 01:14 AM
What about Holwell, surely he's in the mix?

sambãd5
18-09-05, 01:28 AM
i think hes retired from super 12/14. well thats what someone said before.

if he is available however, i would move mcallister over to 2nd 5/8 and have howell in 1st 5/8

esoj
20-09-05, 07:59 AM
not sure about holwell he is playing for northland in the npc but don't know if he will play next year in super 14.

187
20-09-05, 09:01 PM
this is a HUGE call to make like NZL Fan said... no doubt u guys will hav a good team stacked wit good players but that doesn't mean you'll win the Super 14.
I'm not sure if this is a similar situation but do u remember our wellington lions team or hurricanes team when we had the best backline in the world on paper that is...

9. Jason Spice
10. David Holwell
11. Jonah Lomu
12. Pita Alatini
13. Tana Umaga
14. Lome Fa'atau
15. Christian Cullen

our forwards weren't too bad either.. and yet we only ended up winning the NPC once.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
25-09-05, 10:52 AM
our best backline on paper would destroy that team

9.devine
10.spencer
11.caucau
12.tuitupou
13.gear
14.howlett
15.muliaina

with rokocoko on the bench!!!!
DAMMMM I LOVED 2003!!!


anyways looking at both auckland and nth harbour we have a strong chance of winning the super14

forwards:
afoa
tamoepeau
woodcock
mealamu
witcombe
dow
ali williams
rawlinson
collins
mcdonald
mika
braid
harding
nick williams
kaino

backs:
devine
polegagagagagaga..the dude wit the long name
the reserve auckland npc halfback
gibson
mccalister
howell
lavea
tuitupou
tuitevake..if he wants to stay home this year
tipoki
atiga
the new auckland fullback!!!!<the samoan guy..hes AWESOME!
ward
waqueseduadua
rokocoko
howlett
koonwaiyou
necewa

look at the talent pool!!!!
cant wiat till next years very first super14!

loratadine
25-09-05, 11:17 PM
my moneys on the crusaders again.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
25-09-05, 11:37 PM
u dont have any money...your welsh

scot
25-09-05, 11:42 PM
A New South Wales / Auckland grand final is probably not unlikely. Imagine 80, 000 people at Telstra Stadium to witness the biggest ever provincial game in the Southern Hemisphere in the Super 14&#39;s inaugral year.

1. Dunning
2. Frier
3. Baxter
4. Kanaar
5. Vickerman
6. Elsom
7. Waugh
8. Lyons
9. Whitaker
10. Norton-Knight
11. Hewat
12. Turinui
13. Tuqiri
14. Sailor
15. Rogers

1. Woodcock
2. Mealamu
3. Afoa/Mr T
4. Rawlison/Mika
5. A. Willaims
6. Kaino
7. Braid
8. Williams
9. Devine/Moa
10. McAlister
11. Rocokoko
12. Sam
13. Atiga/Nacewa
14. Howlett
15. Ward/Nacewa

Now that&#39;s class.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
25-09-05, 11:48 PM
thats right u guys got sailor!!!

i like em.even tho people talk nonsense about him here...
he usually steps up his game when he is teamed with tuqiri as we have seen in the internationals...so i guess this would do him some good
im hoping to see tuqiri at 13 with sailor outside him....there little rivalry on who can get the better..will only strengthen both players

tuquri at centre!!!!!!!!....him and sailor will make a very dangerous combo on both defence and attack

Dumbo
26-09-05, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by loratadine@Sep 26 2005, 10:17 AM
my moneys on the crusaders again.
Yup

kaftka
26-09-05, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by loratadine@Sep 26 2005, 10:17 AM
my moneys on the crusaders again.
And with just six words, a young relatively unknown Welshman dooms an entire professional rugby team more than 20,000kms away.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
26-09-05, 01:37 AM
its so true!!!!

sambãd5
26-09-05, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by scot@Sep 26 2005, 10:42 AM
A New South Wales / Auckland grand final is probably not unlikely. Imagine 80, 000 people at Telstra Stadium to witness the biggest ever provincial game in the Southern Hemisphere in the Super 14&#39;s inaugral year.
its going to be played at eden park...

scot
26-09-05, 04:00 AM
Perhaps, but it would be better for rugby if it were to be held in Sydney. Plus they&#39;d struggle to get 50, 000 over there in Auckland.

sambãd5
26-09-05, 04:18 AM
so? its going to be held at eden park because blues will be top of table silly

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
26-09-05, 04:53 AM
we wouldnt struggle to get 50,000 at eden park...what an egg

if we did have a 60,000 seater stadium..then we would certainly cap that to the max..dont be foolish to say that ****!

our npc finals is close to full house and ALL our super12 finals at home have been sold out!!!..within a day or two

top gun
26-09-05, 05:18 AM
Tuitavake to be the man next year!!!

as for the Super 14 - same old story Crusaders - too classy

Southern man
26-09-05, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by top gun@Sep 26 2005, 04:18 PM
Tuitavake to be the man next year!!!
Yeah he and Mapusua will continue their great partnership for the highlanders http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Anyone see Tuitavakes mouth guard? Hopefully the colours on it are a pointer towards where he will be next year.

sambãd5
26-09-05, 11:44 AM
out of everyone who is currently, or will be in next years s14 blues side took on a side of blues sellouts, who would win?

woosaah
27-09-05, 12:14 AM
canterbury will win again http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

can never count them out!!!!

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
27-09-05, 05:49 AM
canterbury are the most useless team in rugby history

yo sambad..id go with the sell-outs

caucau,spencer,gear,mills...yeh ol skool will prevail

top gun
27-09-05, 10:24 PM
cant forget Lauaki, Ralph, Meeuws, Cashmore, Tuiali&#39;i

Ripper
28-09-05, 04:33 AM
lol, why is it that only Cantabs are unable to see Caleb Ralph for what he truly is - an overated, useless, preety boy with the speed of a wet paper bag and even less skill (Just look at this chip "kick" against England in 2003 at Wellington)

NZL Fan
28-09-05, 04:40 AM
Originally posted by Ripper@Sep 28 2005, 03:33 PM
lol, why is it that only Cantabs are unable to see Caleb Ralph for what he truly is - an overated, useless, preety boy with the speed of a wet paper bag and even less skill (Just look at this chip "kick" against England in 2003 at Wellington)
Not a great Ralph fan myself, however he is a pretty useful player at super 12/NPC level - don&#39;t be fooled by his inadquecies that are shown up in test level (where he is out of his depth) - also a good team man which all good super 12/NPC sides need.

fcukernaut
28-09-05, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Ripper@Sep 28 2005, 03:33 PM
lol, why is it that only Cantabs are unable to see Caleb Ralph for what he truly is - an overated, useless, preety boy with the speed of a wet paper bag and even less skill (Just look at this chip "kick" against England in 2003 at Wellington)
well Ralph is in no way a great player but he is serviceable. he won&#39;t get by you with pace, is kicking is suspect but his defence is solid. i truly believe he can defend anyone in the game. apart from that well he can&#39;t do much at all but he&#39;s still a decent player.

top gun
28-09-05, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by NZL fan+Sep 28 2005, 03:40 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NZL fan @ Sep 28 2005, 03:40 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Sep 28 2005, 03:33 PM
lol, why is it that only Cantabs are unable to see Caleb Ralph for what he truly is - an overated, useless, preety boy with the speed of a wet paper bag and even less skill (Just look at this chip "kick" against England in 2003 at Wellington)
Not a great Ralph fan myself, however he is a pretty useful player at super 12/NPC level - don&#39;t be fooled by his inadquecies that are shown up in test level (where he is out of his depth) - also a good team man which all good super 12/NPC sides need. [/b]


i agree at NPC & Super 12 level, hes really good
50 S12 tries takes some beating.
Test Level obviously doesnt measure up

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
29-09-05, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by fcukernaut+Sep 29 2005, 08:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fcukernaut @ Sep 29 2005, 08:03 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Sep 28 2005, 03:33 PM
lol, why is it that only Cantabs are unable to see Caleb Ralph for what he truly is - an overated, useless, preety boy with the speed of a wet paper bag and even less skill (Just look at this chip "kick" against England in 2003 at Wellington)
well Ralph is in no way a great player but he is serviceable. he won&#39;t get by you with pace, is kicking is suspect but his defence is solid. i truly believe he can defend anyone in the game. apart from that well he can&#39;t do much at all but he&#39;s still a decent player. [/b]
nah he was another example to rupeni caucaus "dont touch me..im not gay"..sidestep

hahaha..rupeni walked past this guy with ease and i remember last years npc where faatau took the long route around ralph on the wing..and absolutely burnt the ground around him forcing ralph to back a way from the fire!!!!

i hate him!..yes i do..but i he is a very solid/consistence player id put him at fullback if he had a decent enough kicking game

he has lost alotta since his sevens dayz..he was the man back in those dayz in the sevens circuit

rc_souljah
29-09-05, 12:50 PM
Hurricanes 4 next year

15.Shannon Paku
14.Lome Fa&#39;atau
13.Conrad Smith
12.Tana Umaga
11.Ma&#39;a Nonu
10.Jimmy Gopperth
9.Piri Weepu
8.Rodney So&#39;oialo
7.Chris Masoe/Ben Herring
6.Jerry Collins
5.Ross Filipo
4.Ross Kennedy/Paul Tito
3.Neemia Tialata
2.Andrew Hore
1.Joe McDonnel

16.John Schwalger
17.Tim Dow(hopefully from the draft)
18.Ross Kennedy/Paul Tito
19.Ben Herring/Chris Masoe
20.Brendan Haami/Craig Fevre
21.Hosea Gear
22.Isaia Toeava(hopefully from the draft, can&#39;t see him making blues with their depth)

Thomas Waldrom(Even though he was crap and along with Brycce lawrence lost us the shield game)
Tim Fairbrother
Mahonri Schwalger/Luke Mahoney
Jason Eaton
Lifeimi Mafi
Luke Andrews

woosaah
30-09-05, 04:22 AM
I am a cantab i hate ralph, don&#39;t know why i just do, he has over 100 first class tries so he can finish.

also how can canterbury be the most useless team in history? thats totally uncalled for.

i hate scott hamilton though he has got better i admit, i just hate him http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif ever since he lost me 100 bucks damnit.

thats why i like paddy obrien so much, he won me a season ticket to jade stadium http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif well the answer to the question was him on the radio station http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

anyway at lease the crusaders can actually win and keep winning. how many times has auckland won the super 12 compared to canterbury?

bahahahaahahaahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

Ripper
30-09-05, 04:37 AM
You have only won it 2 more times then us...

and heres a question - has Canterbury ever held the Shield for 63 straight challenges?

scot
30-09-05, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Ripper@Sep 28 2005, 03:33 PM
lol, why is it that only Cantabs are unable to see Caleb Ralph for what he truly is - an overated, useless, preety boy with the speed of a wet paper bag and even less skill (Just look at this chip "kick" against England in 2003 at Wellington)
I find it hard to believe you can judge a person&#39;s skill on one chip kick.

Ripper
30-09-05, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by scot+Sep 30 2005, 07:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scot @ Sep 30 2005, 07:35 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Sep 28 2005, 03:33 PM
lol, why is it that only Cantabs are unable to see Caleb Ralph for what he truly is - an overated, useless, preety boy with the speed of a wet paper bag and even less skill (Just look at this chip "kick" against England in 2003 at Wellington)
I find it hard to believe you can judge a person&#39;s skill on one chip kick. [/b]
lol, it wasnt even a kick, he *tried* to, but all it did was hit the deck.

Watch the NZ Maoris/Lions game and then tell me that Im wrong in my observations of that inbred cock.

Anywayz

BRENT WARD FOR ALL BLACKS!

sambãd5
30-09-05, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by woosaah@Sep 30 2005, 03:22 PM
anyway at lease the crusaders can actually win and keep winning. how many times has auckland won the super 12 compared to canterbury?
how many npc titles has auckland won compared to canturbury? then add the ones won by north harbor and counties... npc is where its at. i would rather watch a npc final than all the world cup games, excluding the final.

mark_shaw
04-10-05, 01:46 AM
super 14 selection will be the same as usual, players will end up playing for random franchis&#39;s even tho they played npc no where near them. Its bull, players shud have to play super 14 for which ever franchies they played within.