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rc_souljah
20-10-05, 03:17 AM
Hurricanes:
24 protected players
1.Joe McDonnel
2.Neemia Tialata
3.Tim Fairbrother
4.John Schwalger
5.Andrew Hore
6.Mahonri Schwalger
7.Ross Kennedy
8.Jason Eaton
9.Paul Tito
10.Jerry Collins
11.Ben Herring
12.Rodney So'oialo
13.Chris Masoe
14.Piri Weepu
15.Danny Lee
16.Jimmy Gopperth
17.Ma'a Nonu
18.Tana Umaga ©
19.Conrad Smith
20.Lifeimi Mafi
21.Hosea Gear
22.Lome Fa'atau
23.Roy Kinikinilau
24.Shannon Paku

I don't know how many players you get from the draft so i'll just say 5

Draft Players
1.Kurtis Haiu(Auckland)/Kevin O'Neill(Canterbury) or that other Cantab lock
2.Taniela Moa(Auckland)
3.David Holwell(Northland)
4.Tim Dow(Northland)
5.Isaia Toeava(Auckland)/George Pisi(North Harbour

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
20-10-05, 03:30 AM
tamoepeau,woodcock,afoa
mealamu,???...dow?...
n.williams,a.williams,rawlinson
flavell,kaino,braid,collins,mcdonald
devine,gibson,moa
mccalister,lavea
tuitupou,tuitevake,tipoki
rokocoko,howlett,ward

koonwaiyou
haui
waquesaduadua
howell
????....

i heard latui mite be moving back to auckland?..
an necewa has signed up for the chiefs?

any news?...
we gotta very strong team lead by woodcock who has to be the best attacking scrumager in the world!!..he pummled afoa and mealamu last weekend

i think dows a good shot at being in with aucklands under protected five,jus needs more direction with ball throwing come line out time

Southern man
20-10-05, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by rc_souljah@Oct 20 2005, 03:17 PM
I don't know how many players you get from the draft so i'll just say 5
You can have as many draft players as you want, and with the portected players it is only a limit you don't have to have 24 protected players.

Highlanders

King
Hayman
Dermody
macKintosh

Oliver
McDonald

MacDonald
Levi
Ryan
Donnelly

Blackie
Webb
Newby
Boys
Waldrom (draft)

Smylie
Cowan

Evans
Toeava (draft)

Mapusua
Brew
Tuipolotu/Tuitipou (draft)

Saunders
Lotawa

Te Whare
Clare
Horton

The first two draft players sound like they have been guaranteed, The draft midfielder would be a toos up. We might need another winger though.

rc_souljah
20-10-05, 05:37 AM
It'll be interesting to see who starts at half for the highlanders. Could be another Danny Lee/Kelleher/Jimmy Cowan log jam

samb√£d5
20-10-05, 06:06 AM
1)woodcock
2)mealamu
3)afoa
4)rawlenson/flavel
5)a.williams
6)kaino
7)flavel/braid
8)n.williams
9)devine
10)mcallister/howell
11)joe
12)tupoki/mcallister
13)tuituvaki/tupoki/tuitupo
14)howlett
15)ward

16)mr T
17)?
18)macdonald
19)braid/collins
20)moa
21)lavea
22)necawa

Mr. Laxative
20-10-05, 06:23 AM
brumbies

Bill Young
Jeremy Paul
David Fitter
Al Campbell
Mark Chisholm
Daniel Heenan
George Smith
Jone Tawake
George Gregan
Matt Giteau
Mark Gerrard
Gene Fairbanks
Stirling Mortlock
Clyde Rathbone
Adam Ashley-Cooper

David Palavi
Nic Henderson
Julian Salvi
Adam Wallace-Harrison
Luke Burgess
Stepehen Larkham
Peter Owens

Southern man
20-10-05, 06:36 AM
Why aren't any of the Blues fans picking Blowers in their squads?

NZL Fan
20-10-05, 07:24 AM
Blues squad (what I think will be picked - not what I want.....ie. I'd have McAllister at first five for instance).

1)Woodcock
2)Mealamu
3)Afoa
4)Flavell
5)A.Williams
6)Kaino
7)Braid
8)N.Williams
9)Devine
10)Lavea
11)Rokocoko
12)McAllister
13)Tuitavake
14)Howlett
15)Ward

16)Mr T
17)Rawlinson/Haui (They may try hard to get the one that misses out as part of positions 25-28).
18)Macdonald
19)Waquasiduadua
20)Gibson
21)Atiga
22)Necawa
23)Very young Auckland fullback/first five (name escapes me....)
24)Blowers - probably Blowers as he must have been guaranteed a start in Super 12 to come back.......

(I think they may try to get a back up hooker on the draft (Witcombe out) and a fourth prop, Justin Collins may get an exemption to be added as the 25th player like last year.....)

..::ERIC::..
20-10-05, 07:30 AM
I think either MacDonald, Blowers or Kaino will start at 8 for the Blues. Williams will struggle at S14 level, he doesn't have the workrate to make it at that level.

NZL Fan
20-10-05, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..@Oct 20 2005, 07:30 PM
I think either MacDonald, Blowers or Kaino will start at 8 for the Blues. Williams will struggle at S14 level, he doesn't have the workrate to make it at that level.
Well he had some storming performances at Lock (where he's never played before) last super 12, so I think he might do better in a position he is at least familiar with..........

scot
20-10-05, 10:02 AM
1. Greg Holmes
2. Stephen Moore
3. Anthony MathisoN
4. Hugh McMeniman
5. Mark Connors
6. Tom McVerry
7. David Croft
8. John Roe
9. Sam Cordingley
10. Elton Flatley
11. Henari Veratau
12. Lloyd Johansson
13. Ben Tune
14. Drew Mitchell
15. Chris Latham

16. Sean Hardman
17. Rodney Blanke
18. Mitchell Chapman
19. James Sua
20. Josh Valentine / Tim Atkinson
21. Julian Huxley / Berrick Barnes
22. Peter Hynes

Southern man
21-10-05, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by NZL fan@Oct 20 2005, 07:24 PM
23)Very young Auckland fullback/first five (name escapes me....)
Toeava, I had him in my Highlanders squad as the word down here is that he won't be protected by the Blues and is the Highlanders top target.

Ripper
21-10-05, 05:13 AM
I thought Blowers went to Counties i.e in the Chiefs Zone.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
21-10-05, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by Southern man+Oct 21 2005, 04:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Southern man @ Oct 21 2005, 04:19 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-NZL fan@Oct 20 2005, 07:24 PM

23)Very young Auckland fullback/first five (name escapes me....)
Toeava, I had him in my Highlanders squad as the word down here is that he won&#39;t be protected by the Blues and is the Highlanders top target. [/b]
get your own players http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

..::ERIC::..
21-10-05, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Ripper@Oct 21 2005, 06:13 PM
I thought Blowers went to Counties i.e in the Chiefs Zone.
No he signed for Auckland.

..::ERIC::..
21-10-05, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by NZL fan@Oct 20 2005, 08:24 PM
Blues squad (what I think will be picked - not what I want.....ie. I&#39;d have McAllister at first five for instance).

1)Woodcock
2)Mealamu
3)Afoa
4)Flavell
5)A.Williams
6)Kaino
7)Braid
8)N.Williams
9)Devine
10)Lavea
11)Rokocoko
12)McAllister
13)Tuitavake
14)Howlett
15)Ward

16)Mr T
17)Rawlinson/Haui (They may try hard to get the one that misses out as part of positions 25-28).
18)Macdonald
19)Waquasiduadua
20)Gibson
21)Atiga
22)Necawa
23)Very young Auckland fullback/first five (name escapes me....)
24)Blowers - probably Blowers as he must have been guaranteed a start in Super 12 to come back.......

(I think they may try to get a back up hooker on the draft (Witcombe out) and a fourth prop, Justin Collins may get an exemption to be added as the 25th player like last year.....)
Who would captain that side? Just read an interesting article on Xtra about Collins, who unless he can get an exemption to be a 25th protected player looks set to be dropped. He has been a good leader but nobody elses stands out as good leadership material in the Blues.

kaftka
21-10-05, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..+Oct 21 2005, 10:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (..::ERIC::.. @ Oct 21 2005, 10:24 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-NZL fan@Oct 20 2005, 08:24 PM
Blues squad (what I think will be picked - not what I want.....ie. I&#39;d have McAllister at first five for instance).

1)Woodcock
2)Mealamu
3)Afoa
4)Flavell
5)A.Williams
6)Kaino
7)Braid
8)N.Williams
9)Devine
10)Lavea
11)Rokocoko
12)McAllister
13)Tuitavake
14)Howlett
15)Ward

16)Mr T
17)Rawlinson/Haui (They may try hard to get the one that misses out as part of positions 25-28).
18)Macdonald
19)Waquasiduadua
20)Gibson
21)Atiga
22)Necawa
23)Very young Auckland fullback/first five (name escapes me....)
24)Blowers - probably Blowers as he must have been guaranteed a start in Super 12 to come back.......

(I think they may try to get a back up hooker on the draft (Witcombe out) and a fourth prop, Justin Collins may get an exemption to be added as the 25th player like last year.....)
Who would captain that side? [/b]
Troy Flavell http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif .

No, I think they would get Collins again....Even though there are much better players in the squad http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif

..::ERIC::..
21-10-05, 10:34 AM
Well if they are planning on letting Tuitupou leave the region and get drafted into the Highlanders, why not have the NH 10,12,13 combination with Tipoki as captain? Sure it is a big gamble but they have worked well together, and if most people are wrong and they opt for Tuitupou afterall move Tipoki to centre and still try protect Tuitavake.

Ripper
21-10-05, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..+Oct 21 2005, 09:44 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (..::ERIC::.. @ Oct 21 2005, 09:44 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Oct 21 2005, 06:13 PM
I thought Blowers went to Counties i.e in the Chiefs Zone.
No he signed for Auckland. [/b]
What a dumbarse...

Why not sign somewhere where he might actually start? Like Wellington.

NZL Fan
22-10-05, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..+Oct 21 2005, 10:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (..::ERIC::.. @ Oct 21 2005, 10:24 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-NZL fan@Oct 20 2005, 08:24 PM
Blues squad (what I think will be picked - not what I want.....ie. I&#39;d have McAllister at first five for instance).

1)Woodcock
2)Mealamu
3)Afoa
4)Flavell
5)A.Williams
6)Kaino
7)Braid
8)N.Williams
9)Devine
10)Lavea
11)Rokocoko
12)McAllister
13)Tuitavake
14)Howlett
15)Ward

16)Mr T
17)Rawlinson/Haui (They may try hard to get the one that misses out as part of positions 25-28).
18)Macdonald
19)Waquasiduadua
20)Gibson
21)Atiga
22)Necawa
23)Very young Auckland fullback/first five (name escapes me....)
24)Blowers - probably Blowers as he must have been guaranteed a start in Super 12 to come back.......

(I think they may try to get a back up hooker on the draft (Witcombe out) and a fourth prop, Justin Collins may get an exemption to be added as the 25th player like last year.....)
Who would captain that side? Just read an interesting article on Xtra about Collins, who unless he can get an exemption to be a 25th protected player looks set to be dropped. He has been a good leader but nobody elses stands out as good leadership material in the Blues. [/b]
Good point - for that reason alone they may make McDonald the starting blindside (and captain), with Kaino/Williams being used in rotation at no 8 (remember it is a longer competition with a lot more travelling/time on tour for the New Zealand/Australian teams - rotation will be a must to maintain freshness)......If Collins makes the extended squad he could play and captain whilst resting McDonald.

Braid would have to be rested as well at times, so McDonald could change to open side to allow both Kaino/Blowers (blindside) and Williams/Blowers (no 8) to start.

Southern man
22-10-05, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by Ripper+Oct 22 2005, 08:45 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ripper @ Oct 22 2005, 08:45 AM)</div>

Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..@Oct 21 2005, 09:44 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Oct 21 2005, 06:13 PM
I thought Blowers went to Counties i.e in the Chiefs Zone.
No he signed for Auckland.
What a dumbarse...

Why not sign somewhere where he might actually start? Like Wellington. [/b]
Why would he get a start @ Wellingotn when they have the AB&#39;s 6 and 8, the two positions that Blowers plays.

SaintsFan_Webby
22-10-05, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..+Oct 21 2005, 10:44 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (..::ERIC::.. @ Oct 21 2005, 10:44 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Oct 21 2005, 06:13 PM
I thought Blowers went to Counties i.e in the Chiefs Zone.
No he signed for Auckland. [/b]
Hold on, are we talking Andrew Blowers here?

As in....

http://rugbyrugby.com/mediastore/images/editorial/New_Zealand/Andrew_blowers200x225.jpg



Because that would be annoying to say the least. I thought he was now playing in Japan after leaving us. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

It was a blow to lose him, everyone involved at Northampton wanted him to stay, he had been such a great performer for us.

Ripper
22-10-05, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Southern man+Oct 22 2005, 03:02 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Southern man @ Oct 22 2005, 03:02 PM)</div>

Originally posted by Ripper@Oct 22 2005, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..@Oct 21 2005, 09:44 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Oct 21 2005, 06:13 PM
I thought Blowers went to Counties i.e in the Chiefs Zone.
No he signed for Auckland.
What a dumbarse...

Why not sign somewhere where he might actually start? Like Wellington.
Why would he get a start @ Wellingotn when they have the AB&#39;s 6 and 8, the two positions that Blowers plays. [/b]
Isnt he a 7 as well?

rc_souljah
23-10-05, 12:42 AM
well so much for toeava not being protected

..::ERIC::..
23-10-05, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by Ripper+Oct 22 2005, 10:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ripper @ Oct 22 2005, 10:23 PM)</div>

Originally posted by Southern man@Oct 22 2005, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Ripper@Oct 22 2005, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..@Oct 21 2005, 09:44 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Oct 21 2005, 06:13 PM
I thought Blowers went to Counties i.e in the Chiefs Zone.
No he signed for Auckland.
What a dumbarse...

Why not sign somewhere where he might actually start? Like Wellington.
Why would he get a start @ Wellingotn when they have the AB&#39;s 6 and 8, the two positions that Blowers plays.
Isnt he a 7 as well? [/b]
No, but even if he was we have an all current All Black backrow. It seems that based on most pridictions the Blues will only have the one! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Ripper
24-10-05, 05:25 AM
My New Squad

1. Woodcock
2. Mealamu
3. Mr T
4. MacDonald
5. A. Williams
6. Flavell
7. Braid
8. Kaino

9. Devine

10. McAlister
11. Rocokoko
12. Tuitevake/Toaeva
13. Tipoki
14. Howlett
15. Ward

16. Afoa
17. Whitcombe
18. N. Williams
19. Mika
20. Moa
21. Toeava/Atiga
22. Nacewa
23. Atiga/Sam
24. Lavea

..::ERIC::..
24-10-05, 06:03 AM
Blues:
Afoa, Woodcock, Mr T
Mealamu, Dow (Whitecombe injured?...)
Flavell, Williams, Rawlinson
MacDonald, Kaino, Braid, Blowers / Mika, Williams, Collins*
Devine
Lavea, McAlister, Toe&#39;ava
Tipoki, Tuitavake, Atiga
Nacewa, Howlett, Rokocoko, Ward

*Exemption because of heart problem

Chiefs:
Davison, Manu, Castle
Linklator, Lutui
Gibbes, Upton, Hohneck
Lauaki, Bates, Holah, Bourke, Ormsby
Kelleher, Nutbrown
Donald, Hill, McQuoid, Tauaso, Ranby
Anesi, Sivivatu, Muliaina

Hurricanes:
Tialata, McDonell, Fairbrother
Hore
Eaton, Andrews, Kennedy, Tito
Collins, Masoe, So&#39;oialo, Herring, Lilo
Weepu, Lee
Gopperth, Ellison
Nonu, Umaga, Smith
Fa&#39;atau, Paku, Kinikinilau, Gear

Crusaders:
Somerville, Johnstone, Feek
Flynn, Kopelani
Jack, Filipo, O&#39;Neill
Thorne, Naupu, McCaw, Leo&#39;o, Tuiali&#39;i
Senio, Ellis
Carter, Mauger, McIntyre, Laulala
Gear, Hamilton, Ralph, MacDonald, Delasau

Highlanders:
Hayman, Dermody, King (if he is signed)
Oliver
Ryan, Donnelly, Thompson, Levi
Newby, Blackie, Webb, H MacDonald, Boys
Cowan, Smylie
Evans, Mapusua, Smith, Brew
Saunders, Pedersen, Clare, Horton, Lotawa

Leaving a potential draft of:
Props: Nobel, White, Donald, Toleafoa, Filisi, Penn, Schwalger, Aldworth, Nolan
Hookers: Dustow, Pareanga, Mahoney, Schwalger, MacDonald, Rutledge
Locks: Sorenson, Lynn
Flankers/8&#39;s: Parangatai, Mika/Blowers, Messam, Smith, Latu, Soqeta, Lilo, Waldrom, Hopgood, T-Pole
Halfbacks: Poluleuligaga, J Senio, Gibson, Moa, Leonard, Hunt
Inside backs: Holwell, J Levi, M Williams, Tuipolotu, Tuitupou, Shoemark
Outside backs: Pisi, Lawrences, Waqaseduadua, Rowe, Koonwaiyou, Kahui, Korovata, Reid, Bolovucu, Jane, Wilson

Ripper
26-10-05, 05:11 AM
Just heard on the radio Kaino is out of the S14...

In my Super Duper Correct Blues squad, move N. Williams to 8 and put Blowers on his spot on the bench.

ALLBLACKS
27-10-05, 09:35 PM
Canterbury

15.MacDonald
14.Gear
13.Ralph
12.Mauger
11.Koonwaiyou
10.Carter
9.Senio
8.Tuiali&#39;i
7.McCaw
6.Mika
5.Thorne
4.Jack
3.Sommerville
2.Flynn
1.Johnstone

Auckland

15.Ward
14.Howlett
13.Tuitavake
12.McAlister
11.Rokocoko
10.Lavea
9.Devine
8.Williams
7.Braid
6.Flavell
5.Williams
4.MacDonald
3.Afoa
2.Mealamu
1.Woodcock

Wellington

15.Toeava
14.Fa&#39;atau
13.Smith
12.Umaga
11.Nonu
10.Gopperth/Howell
9.Weepu
8.So&#39;oialo
7.Masoe
6.Collins
5.Kennedy
4.Eaton
3.Tialata
2.Hore
1.McDonell

Waikato

15.Muliaina/Crichton
14.Anesi
13.Ranby/Muliaina
12.Tuitupou
11.Sivivatu
10.Hill
9.Kelleher
8.Bates
7.Holah
6.Luaki
5.Gibbes
4.Upton
3.Castle
2.Willis
1.Manu

Otago

15.Blair
14.Delasau
13.Brew
12.Mapusua
11.Saunders
10.Evans
9.Smylie/Jimmy Cowan
8.Blowers
7.Blackie
6.Newby
5.Donnely
4.Ryan
3.Hayman
2.Oliver
1.King

Can anyone tell me about Hosea Gear,Is he All Black Material in the future,is he quick? ive never seen him play.

Ripper
27-10-05, 09:46 PM
You die now... Very slowly and Painfully.

1. Woodcock
2. Mealamu
3. Mr T
4. Rawlison
5. A. Willaims
6. Flavell
7. Braid
8. MacDonald

9. Devine

10. McAlister
11. Rocokoko
12. Tuitavakie
13. Tipoki/Atiga
14. Howlett
15. Ward

ALLBLACKS
27-10-05, 10:01 PM
Auckland is a tricky side to pick,they have so many quality backs,Taumoepeau is NOT a tighthead but maby playing him there would help with his versatility I do rate him better then Afoa too.

heres Aucklands version of the 2000/2001 Hurricanes who use to score from anywhere with the exception of a better foward pack.

15.Pisi/Howlett
14.Howlett/Waqasedudua
13.Tuitavake
12.Tipoki/Atiga
11.Rokocoko
10.McAlister
9.Devine
8.Williams
7.Braid
6.Flavell
5.Williams
4.MacDonald
3.Afoa/Taumoepeau
2.Mealamu
1.Taumoepeau/Woodcock

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
08-11-05, 11:47 AM
id like to see the blues line up like this

woodcock
mealamu (capt)
afoa
williams
flavell
kaino
braid
williams

devine(v.captain)

lavea
rokocoko
mccalister(k)
tuitevake
howlett
ward

tamoepeau
dow
rawlinson
macdonald
moa?..he in auckland? poluleaugaga?..he in auckland...gibson?..still alive?
tipoki
waqueseduadua

nik
09-11-05, 11:08 AM
lol...yeah gibson is still alive and he is in the blues squad

hatchie
11-11-05, 08:49 AM
WESTERN FORCE 2005

1 David Fitter
2 Brendan Cannon
3 Gareth Hardy
4 John Wellborn
5 Nathan Sharpe ©
6 Luke Doherty
7 Matthew Hodgson
8 Scott Fava
9 Matt Henjak
10 Lachlan MacKay
11 Digby Ioane
12 Brock James
13 Junior Pelesasa
14 James Hilgendorf
15 Cameron Shepherd

16 Tai McIssac
17 Pek Cowan
18 Rudi Vedelago
19 David Pusey/Richard Brown
20 Chris O&#39;Young
21 Josh Graham
22 Scott Daruda/Tajhon Smallman-Mailata

ALLBLACKS
28-11-05, 10:22 PM
where is Brett Stapleton in your Line-Up Australia needs Faster Wingers, I hear Stapleton has a Rugby Brain on him too, cant be that bad.

Hayden Shaw
28-11-05, 11:08 PM
To&#39;eva is in the Hurricanes Squad - pretty sure he is. Colin Cooper said he would be playing fullblack for the Canes.

Mr. Laxative
29-11-05, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by hatchie@Nov 11 2005, 09:49 PM
WESTERN FORCE 2005

1 David Fitter
2 Brendan Cannon
3 Gareth Hardy
4 John Wellborn
5 Nathan Sharpe ©
6 Luke Doherty
7 Matthew Hodgson
8 Scott Fava
9 Matt Henjak
10 Lachlan MacKay
11 Digby Ioane
12 Brock James
13 Junior Pelesasa
14 James Hilgendorf
15 Cameron Shepherd

16 Tai McIssac
17 Pek Cowan
18 Rudi Vedelago
19 David Pusey/Richard Brown
20 Chris O&#39;Young
21 Josh Graham
22 Scott Daruda/Tajhon Smallman-Mailata
Just in case you didn&#39;t know Scott Staniforth is coming home! He should be in the starting 15.