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locksley
23-02-10, 09:23 AM
Hello fellas,

Just thought I'd share my thoughts with you on Rugby League 3, along with some new video footage.

VIDEO FOOTAGE

RL3 Warrington v Widnes 1 (http://www.rugbyleague.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/media/6.mp4)

Warringtons Hicks makes a break (http://www.rugbyleague.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/media/8.mp4)

Injury, Good defence and a chance blown (http://www.rugbyleague.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/media/9..mp4)

Leeds v Saints last minutes grand final - can saints hit back? (http://www.locksley.350.com/leeds_v_saints_last_minutes.avi) (This is quite large - 65mb)


RUGBY LEAGUE 3 PREVIEW

By Locksley



Ahhhh, 2003. Rugby League 1 on the ps2. Fond Memories. Not the perfect game by any means, but one that had it's charms and was essentially fun to play. Yes, the graphics were shoddy, yes, there were many frustrating flaws but it was Rugby League and Sidhe put themselves on the map with it's new baby.

After all the hype Rugby League 2 arrived in 2005. Sidhe had included almost everything the fans wanted for the sequel. Franchise mode? Check. Almost limitless customisation? Check. Online play? Check. Unfortunately, (in my opinion anyway) they left out the gameplay! It was slow, cumbersome and awful to play. The graphics were fine, the sound was good but the player control was abysmal. It felt like trying to steer an 18 wheeler around a car park, rather than a nimble Rugby player. Defending was a waste of time, as you could put your control pad down and the AI would never make a break. There were so many fundamental errors with it, you started to wonder if Sidhe actually started from scratch rather than build on Rugby League 1's successes. And so, despite all it's wealth of options, Rugby League 2 left me feeling so disappointed. Granted, lots of people liked it, but if the truth be known, they were probably forcing themselves to like it "cos it was Rugby League 2"

And so 2010 Rolls around, and Rugby League 3 will be unleashed in March on the nintendo Wii and thanks to Roger at Alternative Software, I got the chance to get to grips with the game, to see if Sidhe could lay my Rugby League 2 demons to rest. And did they succeed? Simple answer... YES

After a lengthy introduction through all the game features by Roger, (and I must say there are many!) along with him telling us we'd need a while to get used to the controls, Dan and I sat down to play. I had the nunchuck and wiimote combo, while Dan had the Gamecube controller. We dove straight in and had a Saints v Leeds match. Things didn't look good. I couldn't get the hang of passing, I couldn't make any kind of kick on the last play, and Dan was faring no better with his control setup. So we decided to read the instruction manual - kindly provided by Roger - to get used to the controls. Dan hates gamecube controllers with a passion, so we swapped around. Dan had the nunchuck/wiimote and I had the GC Controller. Needless to say, after around half an hour things were starting to gel, the controls became second nature and Rugby League 3 was under my skin.

Once I grasped the controls, the game became an absolute joy to play. It was paced exactly right. Not too quick, and not too slow. Spot on. The player control is 1000% improvement on RL2. You actually feel like you're controlling a rugby player this time around. For instance, you want to run left, you push left and it does it! Easy! Exactly how it should be. Also, if you make a break and the full back is coming across to bring you down, take your finger off the sprint button and you have lots of opportunity to evade a tackle. It really is brilliant!
Sidhe have also got it spot on with the forward/backs relationship. If a quick player makes a break, there's no way on earth a prop forward will chase him down. Again, exactly as it should be. And the opposite is also in effect if you try to make a tackle bust with a slightly built half back or winger you have virtually no chance, but if you run an 18 stone prop at speed into smaller players, they're gonna know about it. I really cannot stress just how much Sidhe have improved the game engine. My first thought was "Oh, it's RL2 slightly spruced up," but it's far far more than that. The more you play the game, the more you want to play the game, and that, in my opinon is what games are all about.


PASSING

Passing, again is a massive improvement over previous RL titles. Although itís not as slick as Rugby 2006, it actually feels more real. In other words, if you just hit the pass button over and over, the ball is going to go to ground and generally be a mess. You have actually got to play the game as if it was real Rugby League and time your passes. Suss this out, and youíll love it.
In Rugby League 2, it used to feel as if there was any ďelastic bandĒ between AI defenders. By this, I mean that if you were to go through a gap, you wouldnít actually go through it, but sort of run on the spot slightly until a defender tackled you. This is most definitely not the case with RL3. If thereís a hole in the defensive line and you breach it, then youíre away. This means that youíve got to concentrate when defending to make sure you close those gaps. Again, Exactly how it should be.


DEFENDING

In defence, the game plays like a tighter controlled Rugby League 2. Yes, the AI still helps out, but you really have to be on your game with your tackling, cos the AI will exploit any mistakes to itís advantage. This was particularly evident when I played a St Helens V Wigan match on Legend difficulty... and was thrashed 44-0! As soon as a gap appeared in the defence, the AI was through it. If you close the gap, the offloads will start to happen, but nowhere near as much as RL2. All in all, defending is a great improvement on RL2, and I actually made most of the tackles myself in a match, rather than change player then watch the AI tackle as I run past!


KICKING

Now, this for me is what REALLY sets Rugby League 3 far and above previous rugby titles. As you all know, there are many types of kick in Rugby League. Bombs, Grubbers, Punts downfield, Drop Goals and chip kicks all feature in real life matches, and itís no different here. What Sidhe have done with the kicking system in RL3 is nothing short of genius. There are only so many buttons on a controller, so itís impossible to assign a different button to each kick, so Sidhe took a chance with a system that initially is confusing, but once mastered, will never be bettered. Like previous RL titles, each kick has a ďSlo moĒ mode so you get chance to line up a great kick. By pressing ďAĒ on the GC controller, you move the arrow ready for a kick downfield, then, when youíre ready to kick you push the ďRĒ button and let it fly! There are different combinations for each kick, and it is slightly awkward at first, but as I said, once you master it, youíll wonder how you played without it in previous games. This brings me onto my favourite kick Ė The chip kick. This works absolutely beautifully, and can easily catch out a defence if the full back and wingers have dropped back too early! Thereís no better feeling than chipping over the defence on the last tackle, only to re-gather the ball and dive over for a brilliant individual try. A real punch the air moment, especially if itís done on 80 minutes to decide the match.


CONCLUSION

There is absolutely loads of stuff Iíve not covered here, and if I were to cover it all this would be a 48 page essay. Things such as the ďOn the flyĒ strategies, which are superbly implemented and work far better than I thought they would. Switch to a cover defence and see your full back move just behind the defence ready to help out if thereís a break on. Switch to aggressive defence and the tacklers really get into the faces of the ball carrier, great if you want the ball back, but risky to pull off due to penalties. When using the strategy whilst attacking, it really works when you attack with a full line (Full back joins the line), or set a deep attack for some strong running onto the ball. Itís brilliant!

If you love match stats, team stats, player stats... in fact, if you are a stat head then this game has THE most in depth stats Iíve ever saw. Club records, biggest wins, heaviest defeats, metres made, missed tackles, it goes on and on and on and it is a credit to Sidhe how much work is going on behind the scenes while the game is in play.
We never had the chance to get to grips with the Franchise mode, but Roger took us through it briefly. This looks as though is easily surpasses the admittedly great franchise mode in RL2, and the fact that you can now buy and sell players from each hemisphere really adds that extra dimension that Franchise mode in RL2 was lacking.

Whilst there are some negative points, such as last seasons kits/squads etc , and dodgy player likenesses, this really doesnít detract from what is a fantastic Rugby game for me, (And besides, who says that there wonít be updates available for download in the future? ;) ) Sidhe have done themselves proud this time around. I will be the first to admit that I really had a chip on my shoulder over RL2. I was gutted that everything felt so wrong, and was disappointed with Sidhe for letting this happen. I didnít expect much from RL3 and I was surprised to see I actually liked it. After an hours play I bloody LOVED it, and in the end Roger had to literally drag us off the Wii just as we were in the middle of a close State of Origin match.


So is Rugby League 3 any good? Well as I just said, we had to be dragged away from the game, and Iím absolutely itching to play it again. Now that to me says it all.



Lox

Paddy
23-02-10, 01:14 PM
thanks for uploading the clips lox, but the 3rd clip doesnt work. Can u fix it plz? thanks

Paddy
23-02-10, 01:23 PM
also, can u upload some longer videos????

St Helens RLFC
23-02-10, 03:38 PM
He'll fix the video when he gets home from work.

esoj
23-02-10, 07:04 PM
good to hear your views on the game lox. game really is shaping up to be a winner, now for the torture of waiting until release in march.

locksley
23-02-10, 09:23 PM
Video is now fixed. Sorry it's taken so long guys.

CeeJay
23-02-10, 11:14 PM
Thanks for the in depth preview locksley. I share your views on RL1 and RL2,s o its good to hear that its going in the right direction this time.


One thing that did worry me a little from the vids, is that the scrums are still a big problem.
In RL1 and RL2 a scrum was basically a free try. It looks to be the same in RL3. The defense all drift in leaving you with a huge break.

Also, I think St helens talked about the improved sidestep, but from the vids it looked like the same old skake/teleport through the defense from RL2.

Also, are dummies fixed!? I love RL1 dmmies! Murdered them in RL2.

locksley
23-02-10, 11:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CeeJay @ Feb 24 2010, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=438263')</div>
Thanks for the in depth preview locksley. I share your views on RL1 and RL2,s o its good to hear that its going in the right direction this time.


One thing that did worry me a little from the vids, is that the scrums are still a big problem.
In RL1 and RL2 a scrum was basically a free try. It looks to be the same in RL3. The defense all drift in leaving you with a huge break.

Also, I think St helens talked about the improved sidestep, but from the vids it looked like the same old skake/teleport through the defense from RL2.

Also, are dummies fixed!? I love RL1 dmmies! Murdered them in RL2.[/b]

Yeah, Dan mentioned that as a concern about the scrums. I didn&#39;t have an issue with it personally. the thing is, although we played for 3-4 hours, we barely scartched the surface. Rugby League 3 is one of those games you have to make sure you master the controls to get the best out of. I really enjoyed playing it, but I cannot wait to spend a few days with it when it&#39;s released to check out everything playability wise. I&#39;m pretty sure you can set a defensive pattern, like a cover defense to cope with the easy metre pick up and go from the scrum.

Fair point on the step too. Although it&#39;s still not perfect, it&#39;s far better than previous games, and it actually works well this time too!

Not too sure about the dummies, in fact, I don&#39;t think we even did a dummy at all. They are in there because they are mentioned in the control manual, but I couldn&#39;t really answer that one for you.

Paddy
24-02-10, 12:26 AM
The last video really shows gameplay for RL3, thanks for putting it up lox

Anyway, just wanna voice my opinion on RL3 based on those videos.

* It seems the player standing flat during the play the ball is still there like it was in RL2 and so is the slow play the ball
* Its good to seem good/star players getting recognise with their respective icon under them (speed,playmaker,strength) I&#39;m prolly nitpicking here and im not familiar with the SL players, but i do know James Roby isnt a flyer right????
* I saw James Graham and Paul Wellens kicking the ball, but both those kicks didnt go where you aim for. Is it because both of them have crap kicking stats??? If thats the case then well done Sidhe. I DO NOT want to see my prop forward kicking 40/20&#39;s and 40m field goals :D :D :D
* Palming off players no longer slow down the ball carrier like a snail. In RL2, palming was useless since your player will go all slow and get tackled by other players regardless. Love the big don&#39;t argue by Puluteua on Brent Webb to score that try!!!!!

Thats all i can think of for now

locksley
24-02-10, 12:37 AM
[quote]
The last video really shows gameplay for RL3, thanks for putting it up lox

Anyway, just wanna voice my opinion on RL3 based on those videos.




* Its good to seem good/star players getting recognise with their respective icon under them (speed,playmaker,strength) I&#39;m prolly nitpicking here and im not familiar with the SL players, but i do know James
Roby isnt a flyer right????

Roby is quick, but I wouldn&#39;t have given him a speedster icon either!


* I saw James Graham and Paul Wellens kicking the ball, but both those kicks didnt go where you aim for. Is it because both of them have crap kicking stats??? If thats the case then well done Sidhe. I DO NOT want to see my prop forward kicking 40/20&#39;s and 40m field goals :D :D :D

Yep, when I put the kick in with James Graham I was aiming for touch, as you can see it went straight down the middle of the field so Sidhe have it spot on with this. As for me missing the goal kick... Dan and I missed EVERY kick when the Wii was connected up to the DVD Recorder as there was some confliction with the button being pressed and the kick being taken. Whe we played it directly through the 480p cable, the goal kicking was flawless. It really was like playing a different game.


* Palming off players no longer slow down the ball carrier like a snail. In RL2, palming was useless since your player will go all slow and get tackled by other players regardless. Love the big don&#39;t argue by Puluteua on Brent Webb to score that try!!!!!

Awesome eh? I LOVED scoring that try, especially after Webb had caused so much damage previously in the match.

Thats all i can think of for now

Paddy
24-02-10, 12:51 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (locksley @ Feb 24 2010, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=438267')</div>
The last video really shows gameplay for RL3, thanks for putting it up lox
Roby is quick, but I wouldn&#39;t have given him a speedster icon either![/b]

Maybe the icon are based on stats. Like Roby probably had 90 for speed and that automatically gives him the icon.
Oh, did you guys try playing players out of position? Did their stats decline like they do in Fifa?

Anyway, I wasn&#39;t that excited at first when RL3 was announced cos RL2 was total crap. Now i CANNOT WAIT for March 18th!!!!!!!!

You should upload the videos on Youtube to let people who don&#39;t visit the forums know that RL3 is coming out. The future in Rugby League gaming is in Sidhe&#39;s hands and they need all the support they need and deserve

Olyy
24-02-10, 01:05 AM
Those videos really are good,
The only qualm i&#39;ve got with it is that, because they pushed the release date back the rosters are out, i.e Sean Long playing for saints in the video above

Radman
24-02-10, 07:20 AM
WARNING: Do not download the last video. I dunno if this has happenned to anyone else here or if its just my computer but I think there is something wrong with the file, all the others went fine but I got the Dr Watson thing with the last one and my computer froze so I had to do a hard reboot. Now I can&#39;t go into my music folder where the clip went without having to close everything or having my computer freeze. :(

This has happenned to me before and I managed to get rid of it but I can&#39;t this time it just shuts down before giving me a chance to get in the folder and delete the file.:(

locksley
24-02-10, 07:26 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Radman @ Feb 24 2010, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=438280')</div>
WARNING: Do not download the last video. I dunno if this has happenned to anyone else here or if its just my computer but I think there is something wrong with the file, all the others went fine but I got the Dr Watson thing with the last one and my computer froze so I had to do a hard reboot. Now I can&#39;t go into my music folder where the clip went without having to close everything or having my computer freeze. :(

This has happenned to me before and I managed to get rid of it but I can&#39;t this time it just shuts down before giving me a chance to get in the folder and delete the file.:([/b]


Woahhh, I don&#39;t know anything about this. The file plays great on my PC, and there&#39;s no problems here. Sorry to hear about you having trouble Radman. :(

Radman
24-02-10, 08:05 AM
No need for alarm, Just looked it up and it seems there might have been a conflict with the file type and software on my computer. I need to look into it now as it is a bit worse than the last time I had the problem.

Sorry, I Didn&#39;t mean to alarm anyone, that was just my initial reaction when it happenned before looking it up.

esoj
24-02-10, 10:22 AM
video was all good for me and again game is looking great can&#39;t wait to play it in a few more weeks.

Nesreviac
25-02-10, 11:53 AM
Excellent preview Locksley. It seems that Sidhe have really listened and worked on nearly every issue that destroyed their last effort.

In my personal opinion it sounds like Rugby League 4 will be a much more certain prospect than this title every was going to be. You need strong success for sequels to keep coming and this has all signs thus far of putting the ship firmly back on course for Sidhe. My reasons for saying that so early are as follows

1. Gameplay, if thats fixed, if thats fun, people will buy.
2. If less people are playing pirated versions (so far so good this generation), then sales are going to be significantly stronger.
3. If this does go multi-platform (average graphics for 360/Ps3 or not) as has been suggested it may, then more return for the investment again.
4. No &#39;foot in the mouth&#39; bragging in the advertising as there was with RL2, with boasting of 9/10 reviews. That just oer-hyped expectations.

Rugby League is not a huge sporting brand globally, so if all these factors come together and Sidhe can sell a truckload of a good solid title, we should be able to see the game back again in less time than we waitied for this.

I hate Wii controls so, I&#39;ll have to wait for a possible multi-platform title, but boy am I glad that Rugby League is back as a game thats actually playable.

Thanks for the info on responsiveness too.