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Bullitt
22-11-05, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Diary entry on www.carlosspencer.co.nz
Had a good week this week, went into London and caught up with a few of the AB's, great to see some old faces and have a quiet beer and chat. Must admit I would be pretty keen to put the old jersey on again and I guess never say never!

Interesting development, although would he really get into the AB's fold any more, especially with Dan Carter being rugby new benchmark.

Discuss.

loratadine
22-11-05, 03:30 PM
yes i think he would, i doubt he would be a regular though, but hes still the second best fly half in nz.

An Tarbh
22-11-05, 04:29 PM
yeah but he's too inconsistent and that'd be enough to drive any coach up the wall, plus with the strength they have he's not much of a loss.

gjohn85
27-11-05, 03:13 PM
I would defiantly think he would be in contention at inside centre now that Umaga is retiring. During his last few matches for NZ, Spencer looked in his best form in his career, so it will be interesting whether he could make it back into NZ squad.

Gay-Guy
27-11-05, 07:05 PM
Before he left he was quoted as saying after the Maori/Lions game that he felt the most pride ever when he put on the Maori jersey.....................and now when the AB's are having a great time he wants to come back and be an AB??????????

It's OK Spencer...........you have nothing new to offer..............stay in England.....

Spencer and Merhtens were from the same mould which would never see them play second five or centre...............the useless tackler mould.................and with Henry's defensive screen this requirement is a must...........

rugbyunionfan
27-11-05, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by gjohn85@Nov 28 2005, 03:13 AM
I would defiantly think he would be in contention at inside centre now that Umaga is retiring. During his last few matches for NZ, Spencer looked in his best form in his career, so it will be interesting whether he could make it back into NZ squad.
nonsense, a second five must tackle, spencer ain't much of a tackler

woosaah
27-11-05, 08:26 PM
spencer is not much of a player, i have never rated him at all. he has one good game out of about 5 where mehrts was always consistant.

and now we have dan carter, he is always consistant, with a good consistant backup in either mcdonald(dont hurt me) and mcalister.

i dont think spencer would even get into the second team bench.

sambãd5
28-11-05, 06:37 AM
pfft spencer where would he play even? he wouldnt make it into any super 14 team in nz.

1)carter
2)mcallister
3)evans
4)donald/gopperth
5)lavea


but then again, macdonald somehow makes the allblacks, and sometimes even plays first five - so i guess stranger things have happened

Ripper
28-11-05, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by woosaah@Nov 28 2005, 09:26 AM
spencer is not much of a player, i have never rated him at all. he has one good game out of about 5 where mehrts was always consistant.

and now we have dan carter, he is always consistant, with a good consistant backup in either mcdonald(dont hurt me) and mcalister.

i dont think spencer would even get into the second team bench.
You truly need to join AA. McDonald is the largest pile of **** since Caleb Ralph, the fact you rated McDonald ahead of Nick Evans shows your rugby knowledge... or lack of. Didnt you watch the Tri Nations? Two weeks in a row McDonald almost lost us the Tri Nations and it was McAlister who bailed us out.

Spencer would still make the Blues, ship Lavea to Canterbury, they seem to be in love with medicore backs there, see McDonald, Ralph, Hamilton e.t.c, put McAlister at 12 and Spencer at 10. Read em and Weep. McAlister will be at Inside Centre for the AB's anyway, thats where he plays his best, gives him more space to use his acceleration and his attacking skills which IMO are on par, if not slightly better then Carters (he has more pace and better acceleration).

..::ERIC::..
28-11-05, 07:19 AM
Lavea to Canterbury? Your stupider than Lora!

Canterbury should be giving you at 5/8th. They have Carter, Mauger and McIntyre. Why in god's name would they want Lavea?

Spencer is past it, he would not make All Blacks but he would make S14.

Ripper
28-11-05, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..@Nov 28 2005, 08:19 PM
Lavea to Canterbury? Your stupider than Lora!

Canterbury should be giving you at 5/8th. They have Carter, Mauger and McIntyre. Why in god's name would they want Lavea?

Spencer is past it, he would not make All Blacks but he would make S14.
If he's in Canterbury, that means he isnt in Auckland. Which is good... unless your a Cantab fan.

We got McAlister for S14 and hopefully the ARU give him a big bag of gold to cross to the correct side of the bridge and make the Garden of Eden his permament home.

woosaah
28-11-05, 08:04 AM
hey it was what i think, i dont like evans. and i may be a one eyed cantabrian... wait... i am a one eyed cantabrian and proud of it, i honestly dont remember what macdonald did in the all blacks to make evans bail us out.

sambãd5
28-11-05, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by woosaah@Nov 28 2005, 09:04 PM
hey it was what i think, i dont like evans. and i may be a one eyed cantabrian... wait... i am a one eyed cantabrian and proud of it, i honestly dont remember what macdonald did in the all blacks to make evans bail us out.
evans didnt, but mcallister did. macdonald shouldnt be near the all blacks, let alone first 5.

evans has got the biggest punt in nz, can break lines easly, good on defence good disruibutor, and should be the 3rd no.10 in nz - which he is.

Wally
28-11-05, 09:06 AM
Spencer would be a handy player for any Super 14 franchise and he'd still press for a spot in the All Black squad.

Saint N Sinner
28-11-05, 09:52 AM
I would hate it if he left so early but, it is his choice.

Great player, but he still misses NZ.

Ripper
28-11-05, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by woosaah@Nov 28 2005, 09:04 PM
hey it was what i think, i dont like evans. and i may be a one eyed cantabrian... wait... i am a one eyed cantabrian and proud of it, i honestly dont remember what macdonald did in the all blacks to make evans bail us out.
I quite clearly said McAlister bailed us out..

and you dont remember McDonalds ****ty punting, crappy Goal Kicking and generally inept play, which two weeks in a row gave away soft tries which bought South Africa and Aussie back into the game. Both times McAlister came on and sparked the offense and kicked crucial penalties.

esoj
28-11-05, 08:08 PM
defintely wouldn't get a starting spot if he did decide to come back. carter is clearly the best 10 and mcAlister second with evan macDonald and mauger also possibilities. Spencer would have to play really well to get a starting spot back but he could be used off the bench at second five maybe as he has some great bal skills and has a reasonable boot. if he does come back though he would proabbly only make super 14 level which I wouldn't mind as that would mean lavea is not in the starting lineup

woosaah
29-11-05, 03:06 AM
obviously i didn't blame mcdonald for those tries and thought he wasn't to bad at the punting. his kicking isn't that bad either, but nowhere near the class as carter.

obviously i dont hold a grudge

mcalister/evans, i always get those 2 mixed up no idea why

Badboy
29-11-05, 05:27 AM
Cmon guys don't exaggerate!!!!
Carlos Spencer is a great player!!!!!!Everytime he plays u know he is the man who can do somethin special.the only problems with him are: no much continuity and absolutely no kicking.And plus dan carter is in his top form! anyways i hope to c him back both in the super 14 and in the abs squad!

Ripper
29-11-05, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by woosaah@Nov 29 2005, 04:06 PM
obviously i didn't blame mcdonald for those tries and thought he wasn't to bad at the punting. his kicking isn't that bad either, but nowhere near the class as carter.

obviously i dont hold a grudge

mcalister/evans, i always get those 2 mixed up no idea why
lol, so who's fault was it? the Halfbacks for passing McDonald the ball because he cant even punt the ball over a persons head? the fowards for winning/retaining the ball so the halfback can pass to McDonald who cant kick the ball over a players head?

His punting his ****, its on Lavea level in term of distance and accuracy. He's slower then Lavea as well.

woosaah
29-11-05, 06:02 AM
i honestly can't recall the times you are talking about

maybe i missed those games, there were some games i did miss that i wish i hadn't

at least it wasn't ben blair

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
29-11-05, 07:12 AM
he should sign for one of the 2 new franchises if he really wants to come back and press for an allblack spot

he'd diffinitely fit right back in with blues,or even wellington if you could imagine the potency they would have with a player like spencer throwing the ball around

spencer 10 > nonu 11 >umaga 12 > smith 13 > faatau 14 > toeava 15

and gopperth is way overrated...he got side stepped by a hooker and than smoked over a good 30 metre

thats a hobbit dunking over shaq...embarissing

Ripper
29-11-05, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by woosaah+Nov 29 2005, 07:02 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (woosaah @ Nov 29 2005, 07:02 PM)</div>
i honestly can&#39;t recall the times you are talking about

maybe i missed those games, there were some games i did miss that i wish i hadn&#39;t

at least it wasn&#39;t ben blair[/b]
Are you stoned? it was the 3rd and 4th Tri Nations games (the two home tests)...


Originally posted by Allblacks.com@
Late in the half, the loss of Springbok Pretorius and blood-binning of star flanker Schalk Burger was offset by an opportunist seven-pointer from teammate Januarie... the livewire halfback charging down MacDonald and snapping up the ball for a try as the clock wound down.

<!--QuoteBegin-Allblacks.com
No 10 Mat Rogers converted, closing the gap to 20-12. The visitors survived several aerial attacks deep in their own half before Wallaby No 11 Lote Tuqiri closed it even further when he charged down MacDonald. Try.

woosaah
29-11-05, 08:49 PM
ahh ok, no i didn&#39;t see them sorry.

so i can&#39;t comment on them

esoj
29-11-05, 09:04 PM
yeah macDonald was fairly average in those games but I doubt he will get near the 10 again. carter and mcAlister are clearly the best 10s we have. spencer would have to play really well to get a starting spot back but off the bench playing at 12 he would be good

Gay-Guy
30-11-05, 02:36 AM
MacDonald was there just to steady the ship.......until one of the faces of the future was eased into coming on off the bench.....

......unless your name is Toeava........that name is simply chucked into the deep end http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif