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knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 07:36 PM
Cant do it anymore. Have tried to kid myself since I got this game that its ok and worth playing, but the fact is if I have to try and convince myself that a game is good then there has to be something wrong.

I am without question absolutely gutted.

Im sure some will like it, thats the way of the world and good luck to you but for me I dont think it beats RL1 never mind the upcoming RC2006 and soon to be EA Rugby 2006.

It doesnt have even a minute amount of the control that R2005 or RC2006 has, in fact it has less responsiveness that RL1.

Even the menus are slow. The menus for gods sake, what chance does the game have ?

The PC version will improve on the frame rate of the PS2 which will probably help things, and the graphics will be clearer but it wont change the gameplay how I would like.

I am in a state of shock although I had had a taste of what was to come I convinced myself I was wrong and I just needed to give it another chance but my first impressions were right and have been compounded over the last couple of days play.

Its just so slow and sluggish and its almost impossible to put any fluid gameplay into practice. Ball stripping, kicking the lose ball and all the faces which are excellent mean nothing if the core gameplay isnt there. The motion capture doesnt look like motion capture as it looks like its skipping every other couple of frames which just makes it look jerky as hell.

What happened to the dummy ? Its like elvis swinging his mike around.

Back to RL1 on the xbox for me unless the PC version can somehow manage to grab me unlike the PS2 version has.

Only my opinion and I dont mean any offense to SIDHE as I am sure they would love everyone to sing this games praises but at the moment I dont feel I can. I really hope against all hopes that I am missing something here but I fear not.

If they do an RL3 which I really dont think they will, someone needs to get hold of this project by the balls and sort it out as at the moment it seems to be going nowhere.

Gutted beyond being gutted

PS Is Renderware which comes up at the begining an engine they have purchased like when Rugby 2004 switched to the Fifa engine ? Is that whats holding them back ?

Maybe they should enquire how much it would be to purchase Swordfish Studios engine which seems to fly along on the PS2 with absolutely no trouble at all.

NZL Fan
07-12-05, 07:49 PM
Because I was watching the cricket last night I didn't get as much gametime as I would have liked, so I am reserving my judgement, HOWEVER my impressions so far are the same as yours expressed here...............the game has less responsivess then even RL1 (or even rugby 2001).

I am holding back my true disappointment until I've played it some more, but at the moment I'm having as much fun with it as I did with rugby 2004 (ie. not a lot).

I believe SIDHE may have fallen into the old developers trap of running before they can walk. They have added franchise, online play, new things like stripping etc/ graphical improvements WITHOUT improving/refining/making playable, the core gameplay.

There is good reason why the PES series for instance have only recently added such extras as online play (after many game versions), SIDHE appear not to have taken their lead.

knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 07:57 PM
I could live with lots of the things in the game if the player movement was just more responsive. Its just lets the whole thing down.

I think more than one person will identify with this ... I think they should have called it

" Bungee Cord Rugby League "

.. thats what the players feel like they are on. Its like they are straining against something to move.

top gun
07-12-05, 07:59 PM
and this game has been hyped up so much....

geez what monkeys do they have working there if they cant see a bad game when its slapping them in the face.... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif
they really do need to get joe public on hand testing the playability of these games before releasing them to the public. Cut out all the bull***** extras like cut scenes & motion capture & stick to the guts of good games - which is gameplay, gameplay, gameplay...& throw in awesome graphics & you got a winner

i really do hope melbourne cup challenge is up to scratch

knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 08:05 PM
For those who havent played it make up your own minds, some like it and Im happy for them.

I really have tried my nuts off to like this game and am distraught at the moment.

At least I know RC2006 is a damned good play and even on the PS2 the frame rate is superb.

After this kick to the ******** im hoping R2006 from EA will the THE game that everyone will say " Ohhh yeah thats the one "

I have to live in hope and to be fair at least it looks like the EA franchise IS going somewhere.

R2004 : Crap
R2005 : Some real promise spoiled by daft things.
R2006 : If its better by the same mark as 2005 was over 2004 it will be awesome.

Gay-Guy
07-12-05, 08:25 PM
Gee the Aussies lose the league and then they stuff up with this.....................

Rugby League in general really needed a good gaming sequel in order to promote their code.........now it looks like the 2 rugby titles will bury this game dead.

I am going to hire it out this weekend but I already know what it will be like judging from what Chiro said last month.....as well as what Knowsleyroader is saying now.......I can trust their opinions.................

..............I hope I am proven wrong but I feeel this will not happen.

-JJ-
07-12-05, 08:49 PM
I&#39;m still undecided.

It feels like it should play just like Rugby League 1 but plays differently.

I am disappointed with the kicking game.

It is fun online. Franchise seems ok.

It might take a little bit of getting used to it though.

sanzar
07-12-05, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Gay-Guy@Dec 8 2005, 07:25 AM
Gee the Aussies lose the league and then they stuff up with this.....................
Well it was in fact made by a kiwi company you know...

Anyway, if you go to the Rugby League 2 forums the vast majority of people are pretty blown away by the gam! So I personally think we should all reserve judgement and play it before condemming it.

sanzar
07-12-05, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 8 2005, 07:05 AM
R2006 : If its better by the same mark as 2005 was over 2004 it will be awesome.
Have you seen the features list??? It&#39;s a f***en update patch!

knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 09:01 PM
But the fact is its sooooooooooooo slugish. Its like playing in treacle.

I just played Rugby 2005 xbox and this side by side and the fact is you can do what you want to do in R2005 and with RL2 it feel like Dragons Lair in the arcade where you just pushed the stick one way and it did a little bit of a movie.

If I paused the game on R2005 and someone said right I want you to pass to the first receiver then miss a man out then step inside I feel I would be able to go out and do that, as it should be.

If someone asked me to do that on RL2, I feel like it would be a mission in itself.

Thats how it feels. Rugby should flow, you shouldnt think how am I going to do this it should just be done off the cuff as it happens.

knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by sanzar+Dec 8 2005, 09:00 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Dec 8 2005, 09:00 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 8 2005, 07:05 AM

R2006 : If its better by the same mark as 2005 was over 2004 it will be awesome.
Have you seen the features list??? It&#39;s a f***en update patch! [/b]
arnt all sequels updates ? In one post you say we should all wait to play RL2 and give it a chance and then your slagging R2006 before anyone has even got near it ????

ak47
07-12-05, 09:12 PM
definately NOT worth 9/10 and all the raving reviews.
i am 100% sure it will be like RL1 with many different opinions

at 1st i hated it.......RL1 all over again

in my 2nd match i started to go places...make breaks, and hold down the player......liked it alot.

Went to franchise, and the **** hit the fan for me..........i am extremely happy with franchise........its better than any other career mode in rugby genre

but yeah the gameplay is NOT reponsive enough to warrant this better than R2005.......and what about the ****ty camera views..........whats the point in having those sidecams when they arent anything we can relate to....no TV style, ur either sitting on the fence, or your in the beer line midway up the stadiums teir.

That Ronny **** that said "i havent seen any bugs"

in my 2nd game, i had the dummy half pass to the guy that played the ball...forward pass.
i have twice ran over the deadball line coz i kept getting tackled and breaking them, thus had no time to plot the ball
i have had audio twitch out
where the atmosphere...the crowds very....hummmming to say the least
schifkovski kicking stat is 60%...............FFS he lands them from anywhere
perhaps the sliders can adjust a few niggles.....but i find that hard to believe, as they dont separate AI and ME.

but overall, i never got excited like some, so i am happy as its still growing on me, but crunch time is getting closer where i need that X FACTOR, that BLIC, PES5, TW06 have given me out of the latest sports titles.
but i do love the franchise and the mass of stat tracking....its like madden in a sense

L Withers is making his debut in the ANZAC TEST 2nite.

oh and my Raiders controller, was the 1st thing i opened and i am loving it....getting another one for good measure.........the game is definately worth getting and keeping PROVIDED u got the free controller deal...heck the game is $50 in my eyes.

sanzar
07-12-05, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader+Dec 8 2005, 08:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knowsleyroader @ Dec 8 2005, 08:03 AM)</div>

Originally posted by sanzar@Dec 8 2005, 09:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 8 2005, 07:05 AM

R2006 : If its better by the same mark as 2005 was over 2004 it will be awesome.
Have you seen the features list??? It&#39;s a f***en update patch!
arnt all sequels updates ? In one post you say we should all wait to play RL2 and give it a chance and then your slagging R2006 before anyone has even got near it ???? [/b]
Meh, I hate EA and were ****** off about so many things in Rugby 2005... Rugby 2006 just seems to be the "complete" version of Rugby 2005... They failed to implement several gameplay features that should have prevented the game from being sold without them, like offloads. Mind you, if they f*** up the lions tour again I&#39;ll be boycotting this game anyway.

CeeJay
07-12-05, 09:20 PM
On pc its wat smoother and less slugish than the ps2, but it still falls over.

whats the whole point of a franchise? well i think its to build up your team with star players and lead them to a grand final, the problem is it dosent matter what superstar you buy, they cant do anything thanks to lazy programming on the harder difficulties, so why bother? and with rep games the selection turns out to be random so thats useless to.

In rugby league 1, if I was down by 2 with 30 seconds left, in my own half, I would hav a chance to throw it around and score the game winner. in RL2 it is immpossile to score out of your own half, so unless your in the opposition 20 its game over, THIS IS NOT RUGBY LEAGUE. You must rely on opposition mistakes in order for you to get in scoring position.

I have to agree with knowslyroader on this one. Maybe once I get over my disapointment I can take thie game for what it is and enjoy it.

I think anyone who is undecided will make upm their mind as soon a they hit seasoned or legend. What difficulty are you on knowsleyroader?

ak47
07-12-05, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by sanzar@Dec 8 2005, 08:59 AM
Anyway, if you go to the Rugby League 2 forums the vast majority of people are pretty blown away by the gam! So I personally think we should all reserve judgement and play it before condemming it.
ok we gotto stop referring to the sidhe forums as a reliable source...COZ ITS ALL PUSS.

90% are under 17, and loved RL1, and will love RL2 even more

This is the #1 rugby gaming forum, and isnt a fanboy accomodation!!!

IMO Melbourne cup is going to suck big balls.............it looks as unresponsive as RL2, RL1 - this weta digital and motion cap crap isnt working for me......well not while they have monkeys testing these games, and dont iron out the crap, and actually advise mario n co, that the sidecam, or anyother cam apart from default is COMPLETELY USELESS http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

All this online talk..kills a good game IMO

yet i still reserve my final judgement.....until furthur play...all mixed at the moment

harrison2468
07-12-05, 09:22 PM
Well, thanks for saying all this guys. I have just cancelled my order.

knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 09:24 PM
In reality though what will being negative about an upcoming title get you apart from the pleasure of saying " I told you all " http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

sanzar
07-12-05, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by ak47+Dec 8 2005, 08:21 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak47 @ Dec 8 2005, 08:21 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Dec 8 2005, 08:59 AM
Anyway, if you go to the Rugby League 2 forums the vast majority of people are pretty blown away by the gam! So I personally think we should all reserve judgement and play it before condemming it.
ok we gotto stop referring to the sidhe forums as a reliable source...COZ ITS ALL PUSS.

90% are under 17, and loved RL1, and will love RL2 even more
[/b]
Valid point.

CeeJay
07-12-05, 09:27 PM
Exactly right AK, the sliders dont separate the AI and you, so they pretty much cancel each other out, Ive tried eveything with these and its just hopelless.

Example: I put the tackling percentage up, and break tackle down, I then played on reserve. This made attacking real tough, it was hard to break the line, but when you got a guy into space he was gone. But when the other team got the ball they couldnt even make a metre, i could go and make a coffee while my ai teammates destroy their offense. S**t like that, it solves one problem and creates another, what a waste of time.

knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 8 2005, 09:20 AM
On pc its wat smoother and less slugish than the ps2, but it still falls over.

whats the whole point of a franchise? well i think its to build up your team with star players and lead them to a grand final, the problem is it dosent matter what superstar you buy, they cant do anything thanks to lazy programming on the harder difficulties, so why bother? and with rep games the selection turns out to be random so thats useless to.

In rugby league 1, if I was down by 2 with 30 seconds left, in my own half, I would hav a chance to throw it around and score the game winner. in RL2 it is immpossile to score out of your own half, so unless your in the opposition 20 its game over, THIS IS NOT RUGBY LEAGUE. You must rely on opposition mistakes in order for you to get in scoring position.

I have to agree with knowslyroader on this one. Maybe once I get over my disapointment I can take thie game for what it is and enjoy it.

I think anyone who is undecided will make upm their mind as soon a they hit seasoned or legend. What difficulty are you on knowsleyroader?
Hardest I got up to was seasoned but the problem is Im finding it difficult to score and so is the CPU. Its always 4 - 0 or 6 - 4 or even 0 - 0.

Now im not the best gamesplayer and I use that to my advantage when people are saying " This is too easy " im usually in my element but I was minimum legend on RL1 and even had to go onto league god as I was finding it a bit too easy at that.

In the end I changed my team to make it more difficult on Legend.

The good thing about RL1 was if your concentration dropped you could be hit by a try in a second from deep in your own half, ive even been scored against after putting a kick in the in goal and it being retured the full length for a try. That would NEVER happen in RL2.

RL1 still the winner for me up to now.

knowsleyroader
07-12-05, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by harrison2468@Dec 8 2005, 09:22 AM
Well, thanks for saying all this guys. I have just cancelled my order.
Im not sure I would have gone that far as this is only other peoples opinions and its your own that counts above all else.

harrison2468
07-12-05, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader+Dec 7 2005, 09:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knowsleyroader @ Dec 7 2005, 09:31 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-harrison2468@Dec 8 2005, 09:22 AM
Well, thanks for saying all this guys.* I have just cancelled my order.
Im not sure I would have gone that far as this is only other peoples opinions and its your own that counts above all else. [/b]
Yeah, but it is £30 and my X-Mas present.

I learnt from Rugby 05 that it is wise to rent before buying, and I will do that at most. If it is less responsive than that game, then it ain&#39;t good. I&#39;m not spending £30 on a game which most think is not better than the original.

CeeJay
07-12-05, 09:45 PM
I think that eventually everyone will come to the opinion that this game is not so good, because once you reach he hgher difficulty levels the game ceases to function properly, attack and defece becomes tedious and hard,(for both u abd he ai)and before long youll notice that your not actually having fun.

esoj
07-12-05, 09:48 PM
I don&#39;t know I am still a bit undecided after playing a few games. the controls are defintely a problem for me my sprint button is in a really werid place for defenese which makes chasing breakaways tricky. passing seems to be a bit werid you either hold it down and it goes miles or tap it and it does a really short pass there really is no inbetween at all. and what is with only being able to change one team on single mode. this game defintely seems more geared towards either multiplayer or franchise mode and defintely not for the casual gamer

EVOL
07-12-05, 10:14 PM
at first i couldn&#39;t get to grips with the controls and was losing badly, the responsiveness is as others have said, just plain bad.

after a couple of days on reserve grade i&#39;m killing the opposition on attack but my defense is terrible, its just so badly done, rarely can i rush up and put pressure on their offense with a big hit, i just go screaming past, no i&#39;m not unco.

i love the passing mechanics with the skips but the passing to me is still too floaty.

it is still very playable, but i wish i had just rented b4 i bought it, that free warriors controller sealed the deal.

now i&#39;m looking forward to rc2006 and even moreso ea rugby 06

Morgs
07-12-05, 10:21 PM
Well now I don&#39;t know what to think. I trust your opinions here and I am starting to wish I hadn&#39;t bought it (it&#39;s coming in the mail today). I just can&#39;t believe it would be WORSE the rl1.

But on the other hand Gol has put on his website that this is the best sports game he has ever played, and the rugby league game we have been dreaming of. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

Somebody&#39;s lying... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

Paddy
07-12-05, 11:00 PM
i agree with knowsleyroader

i cant believe how people say its more smoother than RL1

WTF BS!!!!!!

CeeJay
07-12-05, 11:17 PM
everyone who says its the best game ever is just playing on schoolboy or reserve, i thoght this was awsome till I upped the difficulty.

I just unlocked and played my first game on league god mode, heres the stats from the game. I was wests.

West Tigers vs Manley Eagles
Score
6 30

Tackles
60 59

Missed Tackles
61 11

Handling errors
2 2

Posession
50 50

Penalties
6 0

Scott prince got sent off, anf there was no ref or voice in the cut sceen, just prince having a tantrum. League god is tough, the ai just plays hot potato from one end to the other, you just cant lay a hand on them, they easily go the whole field with 5 tackles. to make matters worse they can offload out of any tackles at any stage, so even when you think youve got em, the ball comes flying out and theyre of. On the other side of the ballI was averaging about 15 metres a set, the only reason i scored was because they knocked on on their own line. The good thing is, is that the ai now makes big breaks against oyu, but no matter how much you try you just cant tackle them.

Esoj, you can change both teams in single game, just push up on the Keyboard/controller and it will switch sides, this is daft and had me stumped for a while.

To anyone using a keyboard,change to a controller, it will take ages of trial and error to figure them out, but its way easier once youve done it, the keyboard configuration is just plain awful, and will cause you to push the wrong buttons and make mistakes over and over again.

locksley
07-12-05, 11:30 PM
After reading Knowsleys post, he has made a lot of valid points. The PC version we played at Alternative didn&#39;t feel as unresponsive as the retail PS2 version.

I mentioned in my preview about the defence being hard to control, but I&#39;ve pretty much got to grips with it now. I&#39;ll be totally honest here, I stopped playing RL1 after a while because I thought it was boring and there were just too many bugs spoiling the game. With RL2, I was on it last night for 4 hours solid, and each game I played felt better and better. By the time I&#39;d played my 4th game in franchise mode (Lost 2 won 2) I swtiched it off and went to bed happy.

This afternoon, my dad and brother came around to my house for a game. I&#39;d been telling them all about it and they were eager to have a go on it. We all still play Jonah Lomu every now and then, cos the pair of them can&#39;t stand ANY other rugby game. Anyway, in they came and the PS2 was booted up and we were off. Below is a list of comments made during the ONE game each they played.

"God.. these menu&#39;s are slow,"
"Is the pad plugged in? I&#39;m pushing down and nothings happening!"
"This is way too complicated!" "Why&#39;ve they got icons on their heads?"

(After a bit of explaining to them about the advanced passing)

"It&#39;s still crap! As if you can look and pick the right man as you&#39;re running with the ball"
"There&#39;s too many buttons"
"0-0 after 60 minutes.., does anyone ever score?"
"Have you ever scored a try on it? Cos I can&#39;t make a break!"
"How do you tackle? I&#39;m pushing circle but they just run past"
"Are the runners on elastic bands?"
"It&#39;s the same as the first one... but worse!"

And on, and on and on...

No matter how much I told them that they&#39;d need to "Get into it" before enjoying it, they wouldn&#39;t listen. They said you should just be able to get into games straight away and not need a degree at university to play it!!!!

At this point, my dad put the pad down at half time and asked me to put Pro Evo 5 on. I did, and they sat there for 3 hours enjoying that. They both HATED RL2 with a passion, and kept going on about Pro Evo being the best sports game ever (I totally agree with that too) but I was gutted. Here&#39;s me, trying to convince them the games good, when all they did was end up making me have doubts.

When they&#39;d gone, I carried on with my franchise, but didn&#39;t enjoy it anywhere near as much because I found myself seeing all the things they were moaning about, and it was putting me off.

So that&#39;s it, my online games have gone out the window. I was going to play against Knowsleyroader, My dad or my brother and none of them want to play it again. I&#39;ll just have to search and look for you fellas online, see if we can have a good match.

For what it&#39;s worth, I&#39;ll still be playing it and putting comments like the ones listed above out of my mind, but Knowsley was right when he said convincing yourself something is good when it ain&#39;t, isn&#39;t going to work!

I suppose the advice here is to play the game and judge for yourselves. If you love it, you love it, if you hate it, you hate it. Opinions, everybody has them.

On a side note, I think Sidhe have shot themselves in the foot with the game not working on chipped machines. Yes, there are some chips that can be turned off, but those who have machines where the chips stay on, can&#39;t play it. So what will they do? They&#39;ll download a cracked copy of the game and play that instead cos it&#39;s the only way they&#39;ll get to play it.

Very confused now!

esoj
07-12-05, 11:35 PM
ah cheers mate seems stupid though that you have to do it that way to change both teams.

CeeJay
07-12-05, 11:44 PM
What difficulty are you on locksley? and if your on legend like me how the hell do you defend ??

I dont think this is a copmletely dire game, its just completely different from all the things that made RL1 good, its just so frustrating that they had the formula for what most sports games lack, a challenge, no matter how long you played, RL1 was always a challenge. This formula should hav stayed, but its gone, and with it goes the possoblity of a great rugby league game. Once I get over it and stop comparing it to RL1 im sure it will be fun sometimes.

locksley
07-12-05, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 8 2005, 11:44 AM
What difficulty are you on locksley? and if your on legend like me how the hell do you defend ??

I dont think this is a copmletely dire game, its just completely different from all the things that made RL1 good, its just so frustrating that they had the formula for what most sports games lack, a challenge, no matter how long you played, RL1 was always a challenge. This formula should hav stayed, but its gone, and with it goes the possoblity of a great rugby league game. Once I get over it and stop comparing it to RL1 im sure it will be fun sometimes.
I was playing it on reserve, then moved up to seasoned in franchise. I think the most disappointing aspect is the fact that tries are very rarely scored by either side unless you alter the slider bars.

CeeJay
07-12-05, 11:51 PM
Once you get to legend, it dosent matter what you do with the sliders. Sucks how you cant change the difficulty of a franchise once youve started, id recommend waiting til legend before starting one, otherwise youll hav to keep starting again, ive had to twice.

-JJ-
08-12-05, 12:28 AM
I think some people are being a little harsh with it.

I&#39;ve played it with PS2. It has a few bugs, but nothing major.

Can&#39;t be bothered giving my review of it, although if you ask me, the PS2 controls make it easily the best version. Screw the fact that it looks a little bit prettier on PC, if it doesn&#39;t play well then it&#39;s just stupid.

ak47
08-12-05, 01:30 AM
I reckon its better than RL1

finally i have control over penalties and forward passes

In my 2nd game, i kicked off and it went out............just like RL1........I was rampant.......furious..........thank god i havent seen it since, but very ironic i got it in my 2nd game. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I know i will get better at this game....on ps2, the controls are fine, but yeah the look isnt ideal.

The graphics look ok, not special coz the shadowing is NOT EXISITENT.

the player likeness is awesome.

ak47
08-12-05, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Morgs@Dec 8 2005, 10:21 AM
Well now I don&#39;t know what to think. I trust your opinions here and I am starting to wish I hadn&#39;t bought it (it&#39;s coming in the mail today). I just can&#39;t believe it would be WORSE the rl1.

But on the other hand Gol has put on his website that this is the best sports game he has ever played, and the rugby league game we have been dreaming of. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif

Somebody&#39;s lying... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif
funny that

Gol is also all over the credits, for special thanks

Conflict of interest............YES SIR

BLIC&#39;s ****** all over this FFS

Best sports game.........geez Gol, once again Sidhe, have not adressed suggestions from those in the know...and have just fullfilled petty uneducated requests like online..........heck even the other camera angles for the 2nd time in a row and all unplayable....even the new "UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL" camera angle is just pathetic..............mightaswell have player cam (like ESPN&#39;s helmet cam, if your going to create viewing angles, that serve no purpose

Ripper
08-12-05, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by sanzar+Dec 8 2005, 10:13 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Dec 8 2005, 10:13 AM)</div>

Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 8 2005, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by sanzar@Dec 8 2005, 09:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 8 2005, 07:05 AM

R2006 : If its better by the same mark as 2005 was over 2004 it will be awesome.
Have you seen the features list??? It&#39;s a f***en update patch!
arnt all sequels updates ? In one post you say we should all wait to play RL2 and give it a chance and then your slagging R2006 before anyone has even got near it ????
Meh, I hate EA and were ****** off about so many things in Rugby 2005... Rugby 2006 just seems to be the "complete" version of Rugby 2005... They failed to implement several gameplay features that should have prevented the game from being sold without them, like offloads. Mind you, if they f*** up the lions tour again I&#39;ll be boycotting this game anyway. [/b]
You boycott any company that makes a profit.

Havent played it myself personally, saving my pennies for Rugby 06 (dont deny it Sanzar, you will buy it like the rest of us Lemmings, bitch and moan about it, then go and buy 07 on the release day next year)

Just wondering what system people would recommend renting it out on?

woosaah
08-12-05, 01:45 AM
well since u can only get it on pc and ps2 i suggest renting it on ps2, aparently its more responsive, but if you are going to get it and ya pc can run it get it on pc, lots to mod with it http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Paddy
08-12-05, 02:06 AM
wow, ps2 more reponsive? how can that be http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

sanzar
08-12-05, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Ripper+Dec 8 2005, 12:41 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ripper @ Dec 8 2005, 12:41 PM)</div>

Originally posted by sanzar@Dec 8 2005, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 8 2005, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by sanzar@Dec 8 2005, 09:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 8 2005, 07:05 AM

R2006 : If its better by the same mark as 2005 was over 2004 it will be awesome.
Have you seen the features list??? It&#39;s a f***en update patch!
arnt all sequels updates ? In one post you say we should all wait to play RL2 and give it a chance and then your slagging R2006 before anyone has even got near it ????
Meh, I hate EA and were ****** off about so many things in Rugby 2005... Rugby 2006 just seems to be the "complete" version of Rugby 2005... They failed to implement several gameplay features that should have prevented the game from being sold without them, like offloads. Mind you, if they f*** up the lions tour again I&#39;ll be boycotting this game anyway.
You boycott any company that makes a profit.

Havent played it myself personally, saving my pennies for Rugby 06 (dont deny it Sanzar, you will buy it like the rest of us Lemmings, bitch and moan about it, then go and buy 07 on the release day next year)
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Yeah probably... but if they do f*** up the Lions tour I&#39;ll send a special flaming paper bag to HB to display my feelings.

Anyway, I&#39;ve got RL2 and I have to say so far I&#39;m loving it! The passing options etc are great and it generally feels far deeper... that said, I understand why people think the player control is a bit off, but I&#39;m getting used to it... though I don&#39;t get why sidhe couldn&#39;t add a button configuration option in this game??? Would that be too hard??

esoj
08-12-05, 02:09 AM
i would say get it on pc if you can. the stuff that can be modded seems to be endless. this game maybe lacking out of the box but the potenial to mod it heaps could make it quite good

ak47
08-12-05, 02:13 AM
i see that Radman is currently in an 80min game in league god with scoring updates....seems to be fairing well.............17-8 after 20mins or something

this is promising as its proof it can be done...provided he isnt lying.
seems like legend or seasoned will fit me well........cant be assed to be pedantic on the turbo button...i like to enjoy my game...not treat like the 100m dash in track n field games

this game shows plenty of promise.........i was scoring some great tried last night, and i still havent gotton into the new controls, like shoulder charge and pass to playmaker etc

the grubber is great

also a few tweaks with passing, catching, and kicking in general play will increase your attacking abilities

has anyone fiddled with the sliders, and what impact they have on different difficulties
there&#39;s may be a nice mix of adjusting the sliders, but on the easiest difficulty (schoolboy), so we dont have props outrunning backs, like they do higher levels of diffculty, yet still have a good balance of defense and attack and forward and backline play

i am begininng to hope the sliders are for the AI, and for the USER we gotto adjust the players/teams stats..............there&#39;s gotto be a good mix in there...surely

esoj
08-12-05, 02:20 AM
maybe ak maybe not. ceejay has been trying to get it right and has had no joy yet. I almost got my first try today with some good passing had meli away but he knocked on with the line open lol guess the knock ons are realistic then. I think the game may grow on you as you play it and hopefully with modding it can be better than it is out of the box

tgd
08-12-05, 05:32 AM
am new to the forum and brought this game today... played it twice now and am bored as f#$k wiv it already... nothing good happens..there is 0 fun factor... its obvious sidhe dont give a sh#t about making quality league games... shame on u sidhe.. money hungry c)nts ..delayin this game was the ultimate cock tease and then when it was finally time to have a turn u f*$ked us off.. ive had more fun with games on my mobile i.e snake or memory... trust me save ur money.. im takin mine straight back to eb 2moro.. 2/10

jonah lomu rugby is still king 9/10

ea rugby 05 7/10

wcr 6.5/10

esoj
08-12-05, 05:34 AM
los lover the third maybe. shame that you will miss out on a great game. sure its not perfect out of the box but after time it gets better and also there is huge modding and editing potential with this game.

kaftka
08-12-05, 05:38 AM
That&#39;s a little harsh tgd. Snake is a brilliant game.

myusernameisprettybland
08-12-05, 05:52 AM
i bought this game on ps2 today... and i must say, i agree that the game feels very tedious at the best of times. some people are saying you have to take a while to get into it. lets take a moment to think about the target audience here...

http://static.flickr.com/1/478492_8fd1479237_m.jpg

yes thats right my friends... rugby league fans. and do people like those above look like they care that the games crap for the first 30 hours, but really good after youve mastered all the passing techniques and defending? i dont think so. theyre more likely to throw their controllers at the tv in digust and go for another round of coldies.

in summary, it must be said that after all the hype, sidhe hasent delivered the goods. no matter what the whiney 8 year old league fans say on their official forums. by the way, whats stopping the sidhe staff going on there and posting "yeh its really good, go and buy it!"? i think thats where the positive feedback is coming from.

guardian_of_the_stone_age
08-12-05, 06:14 AM
Is this game really as terrible as everyone says or is it just not fun to play?

CeeJay
08-12-05, 06:47 AM
It is fun on easy modes, at first, but then when your ready for a challenge, It makes the game difficult by removing your ability to score cool tries and all the fun goes, no runnaway tries, or big plays, its just the same thing over, in that aspect it really is worse than RL1.

However, after stuffing around with the sliders all day, I think i might be onto something, im still testing it though. Ill let you know.

Avoid league god mode at all costs, youll tear all your hear out in 5 mins.

Sidhe hav not delivered the goods, but the sad thing is, is they could hav so easily.

samb√£d5
08-12-05, 10:33 AM
i was at eb the other day, and rl2 costed the same amount as nascar06 and tigerwoods 05 put togeather. looks like ive made the right decision to wait untill Christmas for rl2 then...

C A Iversen
08-12-05, 10:57 AM
I&#39;ve hired it and played three games tonight, and I feel that it seems to be a game that will (oddly enough) take longer to get to grips with than RL1, but after say 10-15 games, start to become more rewarding. I feel it&#39;s NOWHERE near as good as we were lead to believe, but it&#39;s early days yet. I have a long enough memory to remember what some newbies said about Jonah Lomu&#39;s complexities in the first week or two of it coming out. It wasn&#39;t all good then either.

I&#39;m not saying this is good or bad yet, I think we all need about a week to start handing out our grades.

I will say this though. Mario throwing his toys when he did, makes me now imagine what those poor playtesters go through.

(Example)

Playtester: "Mario, the controls still need to be more responsive, and the passes are going EveryWhere!"

Mario: " The controls aren&#39;t responding, eh? Who are you, MR SCOTT?
RESPONSIVE, PASSING, GAMEPLAY? Thats all you want, isn&#39;t it? More, more, more. Your just like my tormentor, LOS LOVER!"

Playtester: "Who?"

Mario: " YOU KNOW who I mean! Get out, YOUR FIRED!!! I didn&#39;t get rich by listening to you league fanboys. It was my glamourous TV3 and footy show interviews! NOW OUT! You are released from your contract!!!"

Playtester: "Well, at least something of quality will be released today!"




Mario: " I HEARD THAT!"


(By the way, I just read the Los Lover topic and I&#39;m not trying to offend Mario, it&#39;s just some satire, possibly lame satire, but it&#39;s late).
I hope it&#39;s allowed.

SteveG
08-12-05, 01:23 PM
Well, I like it. I&#39;m obviously one of very few on this forum.

I&#39;ve played about 15 games so far on Reserve level and am just starting to score some good tries. I&#39;m playing on a HP notebook with a gamepad and haven&#39;t found it unresponsive at all. Certainly nothing like RL1.

I have throw a few wild passes, but thats me, not the game.

There are certainly things to improve, as there are in all games and I think Sidhe has taken a lot of suggestions on board.

I don&#39;t agree with Gol&#39;s comments, but it was a pleasant surprise playing the game.

To anyone out there who is in doubt about buying this game, I say buy it and enjoy it as much as I have.

Paddy
08-12-05, 03:54 PM
i changed the agility slider to 100% and its a tad bit better

everyone should try it

NgatiDread
08-12-05, 06:42 PM
I&#39;m lovin it, the amount of options available make this game, in my opinion(I have the PS2 version). Almost everything is customisable.

I&#39;m glad players are having a hard time with the difficulty levels I&#39;d have been bummed if players were mastering the game after such a short time eg RL1,

I believe the true value of this game will come with time as for the graphics compare Jade stadium on EA Rugby with RL2 and you&#39;ll see RL2 is way ahead of its rival.

NZL Fan
08-12-05, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by SteveG@Dec 9 2005, 01:23 AM
Well, I like it. I&#39;m obviously one of very few on this forum.

I&#39;ve played about 15 games so far on Reserve level and am just starting to score some good tries. I&#39;m playing on a HP notebook with a gamepad and haven&#39;t found it unresponsive at all. Certainly nothing like RL1.
As people have been saying "reserve" level and below is playable (though still unresponsive in places), but far too easy for most gamers to really enjoy for long.

It is "seasoned" level and above where the developers have killed the game in order to make it more difficult to score.

Hence no run away tries, defenders not tackling etc etc (as mentioned elsewhere on this thread)..........

I too have mucked around with the sliders, but when I&#39;ve finally thought I&#39;ve cracked it playtesting says otherwise. Still trying though.

I put PES5 on after a nights frustration with RL2 and the difference was that of night and day - responsive controls, challenging (ie. not cheating) AI and a lot of FUN.

knowsleyroader
08-12-05, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Paddy@Dec 9 2005, 03:54 AM
i changed the agility slider to 100% and its a tad bit better

everyone should try it
Tried that also but it doesnt make up for the lack of player control.

How can RL2 justify itself against WCR / Rugby Challenge or even R2005 with regards to player control. Its just isnt there at all in RL2.

In RC2006 JUST moving your player and altering speed can throw defenders off which me and Lox were commenting on when we played it down at Swordfish.

That was just with the standard controls and the sprint button, no fends, no steps nothing just the glorious control you had over your player.

Just isnt there in RL2. Just played RL2 and then RL1 on xbox and the difference in contol over your player is shocking.

Ian2oo5
08-12-05, 06:58 PM
Why is everyone moaning so much? I&#39;ve got the game but havn&#39;t played it yet! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif( its for "Christmas" apparently nevermind!

Anyway on the control side 1 thing I hated about RL1 was the game was just to fast! just by pressing side the player would run sideways (ice skating) and it looked stupid. RL2 seems abit slower which brings a bit more realism to it. Players dont run in a sideways motion running 20meters in 0.5secs. Its great people have thier own opinion and like some1 else said you either going to love it or hate it but RL1 was just stupid, the game speed was to fast the players was to fast, u ice skated sides at 100mph. I think with this being a bit slowed down seems realistic.

Anyway we shall see...

bazdev
08-12-05, 07:32 PM
Well, I like it.

knowsleyroader
08-12-05, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by bazdev@Dec 9 2005, 07:32 AM
Well, I like it.
ROFLMAO http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Ripper
08-12-05, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by sambad5@Dec 8 2005, 11:33 PM
i was at eb the other day, and rl2 costed the same amount as nascar06 and tigerwoods 05 put togeather. looks like ive made the right decision to wait untill Christmas for rl2 then...
EB still selling games at $119.95?

woosaah
08-12-05, 08:34 PM
i still like the game 2, going to play with the files tomorrow to see if i can change the responsiveness and such

CeeJay
08-12-05, 09:23 PM
If i could score runnaways with star players, then i could forgive all the other faults of the game. Scoring tries on reserve is so much fun, you forget about the cons, but reserve only lasts a short while. this problem could be fixed if the the sliders only affected the your team or the Ai, but it affects you both evenly, what were they thinking? On the making of the game video they talk about the fact that you can tweak till your hearts content, did they even test this out? surely not or they would hav realised that it dosent work.

Having said that, Last night, my brother scored an 80 metre runaway with meli, and me a 50 metre with jones,(on seasoned) One thing I had been doing was just tapping the speed burst(like RL1) but once i started tapping a couple of times then holding it down and I seemed o find space. Still its way too hard, and when you do score one, it feels a bit too much like a freak occurence. Im styill playing with sliders to try and maximise this new potential, i hav to say , it has gotten better.

ak47
08-12-05, 09:43 PM
well i am now loving it

cut-out balls are sick,a dn if u throw 3 flat R1 and square passes, u cross the field in 3 seconds, and can find some space.

i am on seasoned franchise

am at 7 wins, 4 losses..............and scoring decent long range tries to boot.....its all about comitting on the break and stepping the FB.....but dont forget about the grubber either http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

got the shoulder barging happening, and selecting the FB instantaneously is bliss, when they kick or put up the bomb.

the controls/responsiveness is still yet to be desired

the testers names are in the credits.....but dont give them any......what did they test....like in RL1 they tested Mario&#39;s breakfast, whilst he had their contracts under a knife.........FFS Sidhe, get some real testers.......this is on par with RL1, R2k4 with rgds to player control.

Being a league nut, just going thru the season, reading the ticker news, stats tracking etc, i just absolutely am in heaven..............if it wasnt my favourite sport, i&#39;d be taking this game back.......but this one will pass the test of time for me (unlike RL1 which was just dire in depth, and the gameplay less complex with features), so this RL2 suits my tastes buds nicely, and now i reckon, if they just look at player movement, the next RL3 has a good depth template to work from.
Franchise is great, so now lets talk movement.........ak47 looks at Sidhe past testing abilities....cries, and puts a pre-order on RC2006 http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

keep this in mind
4 years ago we only had JLR, and Rugby 2001
Now we have RL1, RL2, WCR, R2k4, R2k5...with R2k6 and RC06 coming.

In 4 years the rugby genre has taken off...............our virtual world, slowly, not ideally to our timeframe, is getting better and better and better.....remind me of Madden pre 1998.
Next gen will be our answer IMO.....and IM EXCITED!!!!!!! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

esoj
08-12-05, 09:55 PM
yeah franchsie seems to be the way to go with this game. I will have to start mine today after a few more practice games.

Savage
08-12-05, 10:08 PM
well i enjoy it. Franchise mode is awesome.

i needed a new controller too. others were broken. the warriors one is good as.

ak47
08-12-05, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Savage@Dec 9 2005, 10:08 AM
well i enjoy it. Franchise mode is awesome.

i needed a new controller too. others were broken. the warriors one is good as.
the supporter controllers suits this game to a tee

buttons nice and close to eachother, for when u gotto turbo/agression, then change player and tackle.

esoj
09-12-05, 02:39 AM
franchise is defintely awesome in the game i have just started but it seems to be really in depth with everything from training to squad selection in there. ropati got injured in my first game and is gone for 4 weeks, the rest of the game maybe bit of a let down but franchsie mode is defintely worth getting the game for

SteveG
09-12-05, 02:48 AM
I guess that certain games suit different players. I have played ALL Rugby-type games released in the last 15 years and have liked aspects of most of them except EA Rugby 2004 (which was a heap of crap) and WCR (which was a cartoon masquarading as a simulation). But, I&#39;m sure some people liked them as much I disliked them.

I have issues with some aspects of RL2, but on the whole find it much better than RL1 and others. I do play EA Rugby 2005 and enjoy it, but it too has issues.

Obviously, everyone who plays RL2 will decide for themselves, and some will most certainly hate it. I personally like the atmosphere of it, the graphics are very good, the gameplay on the whole is an improvement over RL1, and most bugs have been fixed.

Each to their own, I say.

samb√£d5
09-12-05, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Ripper+Dec 9 2005, 09:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ripper @ Dec 9 2005, 09:03 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-sambad5@Dec 8 2005, 11:33 PM
i was at eb the other day, and rl2 costed the same amount as nascar06 and tigerwoods 05 put togeather. looks like ive made the right decision to wait untill Christmas for rl2 then...
EB still selling games at $119.95? [/b]
the most expencive thing i saw was nfs:mw black edition, which was $109 with a &#39;free&#39; controller.

they had a few discounts there though. nascar was $20 off, and tiger woods 05 was only 50 bucks... for Christmas sales, the discounts wernt too bad, early-mid are the best times to get discounts though.

rl2 was $99 with [top 50 nrl moments?] dvd with it. i just got the 2 games instead of rl2, because from the first one, i didnt think it would be overwelming - seems i was right

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
09-12-05, 03:53 PM
eb is rip off....central park was worse im glad they dissappeared...it was like in 2003 they were still selling jonah at 100bux....retards

and last year it was selling at $50...hmph

hahhahahaa....gamesman has some good fair deals

any kiwi been to real groovy?...have some very good second hand games as well as some good scores

3 platinum ps2 games for 100bux woot woot

St Helens RLFC
09-12-05, 07:00 PM
I bought RL2 today. My PS2 has just been put back to pieces.... Judgement time!

knowsleyroader
09-12-05, 07:49 PM
Cant play this anymore. Im sorry but no matter how much I desire a Rugby League game, I wont subject myself to this.

The thing that annoys me most is I would have much prefered the extra features and franchise just tagged onto RL1. Would have been much happier.

Guess its back to waiting for me.. Roll on RC2006 and EA Rugby 2006. I know for sure that RC2006 is a corker and im just hoping EA Rugby is.

Ripper
09-12-05, 08:29 PM
I&#39;ll give you 20 virtual dollars if you say that on the SIDHE forums.

NZL Fan
09-12-05, 08:59 PM
Still mucking around with the sliders - it has slowly got better for me on seasoned mode - just need more time to adjust ratings and playtest.

A couple of things I&#39;d like to put forward............

1. The main problem for me appears to be the fact that stats are only based out of 10, hence the difference in ability between the players is so minute that things like speed are very similar across the board regardless of individual ratings (hence little/to no long range tries on higher levels). Forwards seem to be rated way too highly in speed/acceleration. The difference in speed between someone like Sing and Webke is fairly minimal as a result.

Even when I&#39;ve put props on only one "block" for speed, they still appear to be relatively quick in the game during my playtesting.

Mario tried to "palm" off on this very forum the problems of having ability ratings based only out of 10 - I think the fact it has made all players far too similar in this version has justified the concerns we raised about it.

2. The responsiveness of players is inexcusable. When you next have a tap penalty in the game run one way and then try to change direction quickly in the opposite direction - turning circle like a tractor........

3. Fullbacks are next to useless in the game on attack. The fullback sits back in attack like he is defending, and unless he is made one of the 2 "playmakers" he will never be utilised in attack. Best thing to do is put someone at fullback who is average in most things except for tackling - and use you fullback (if he is an attacking weapon like K.Hunt etc) in another position so he can get some ball. I play with the warriors and I use Webb at centre with Ropati at fullback.

4. Who did the cutscenes, and has he ever watched a game of league??? What relevance to the game is the cutscene showing a player looking skywards like he is watching a bee fly past?? what about your goal kicker breaking down each time a kick is missed, even if the kick isn&#39;t that important?? You can turn them off apparently, but really they could have really added to the atmosphere of the game with some decent cut scenes.

5. ........talking of atmosphere, where is it?? Why is the crowd just a fairly quiet "murmour" regardless of what is occuring on the pitch?? Hard to feel the intensity of the battle when the crowd seems so lacklustre..........

Parore
09-12-05, 09:50 PM
I absolutely love the game, is it because im a league fan? Who knows.

You need to give the game a chance. For example when you get to semi finals footy you notice the computer going one up from the ruck dummy half runs only and you know they are setting up for a field goal when the scores are level. They dont throw the ball around unless they are ahead.

I&#39;ve setup heaps of setplays with cut out passes run arounds, double run arounds with a little grubber to my winger. Theres lots of stuff like that and you can learn to do a backflick pass too if you click the pass button really quickly near a player who is running the other way from you.

I have also noticed when I keep players on whose fatigue levels are 20% they drop the ball more often or throw a bad pass, or are really slow out of dummy half, that adds to the realism and you need to use your bench well if you want to win the tough games.

Its best to kick out of dummy half and you can get lots of 40-20&#39;s.

In Franchise mode you really need to work hard at beating teams above you and need to remove players whose stats are going down as they play more poorly.

sanzar
10-12-05, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Parore@Dec 10 2005, 08:50 AM
I absolutely love the game, is it because im a league fan? Who knows.

You need to give the game a chance. For example when you get to semi finals footy you notice the computer going one up from the ruck dummy half runs only and you know they are setting up for a field goal when the scores are level. They dont throw the ball around unless they are ahead.

I&#39;ve setup heaps of setplays with cut out passes run arounds, double run arounds with a little grubber to my winger. Theres lots of stuff like that and you can learn to do a backflick pass too if you click the pass button really quickly near a player who is running the other way from you.

I have also noticed when I keep players on whose fatigue levels are 20% they drop the ball more often or throw a bad pass, or are really slow out of dummy half, that adds to the realism and you need to use your bench well if you want to win the tough games.

Its best to kick out of dummy half and you can get lots of 40-20&#39;s.

In Franchise mode you really need to work hard at beating teams above you and need to remove players whose stats are going down as they play more poorly.
I have to agree with you. I know there are some control issues etc, but so far I&#39;ve been able to work around them pretty well and I think the game is brilliant. At first I wasn&#39;t very impressed because I kept focussing on all the things people have been complaining about, but the more I play it the more I like it.
Though I have to say this game feels 100 times better on PC... They just need to release the control config patch.

Parore
10-12-05, 01:11 AM
I dont know if its me but I think players go in and out of form in the game. I have Jerome Ropati whose played every game for me so far and is really carving the outside defence of teams up whereas when I brought Toopi back from injury (whose skill levels are better than Ropati&#39;s) he hardly can make 5m he always gets smashed and hasnt made 1 line break.

esoj
10-12-05, 01:54 AM
yeah maybe form is part of the game and a player does badly when they have poor stats and better when there stats are better.

Paddy
10-12-05, 02:14 AM
what, they start making mistakes when their fatigue at 20%

wow thanks for telling me, no wonder sometimes my players always drop the ball

Mr. Laxative
10-12-05, 03:16 AM
Well what do you know. This game is released we say its crap, but it actually does come good after a while. EA release a game, we say its great and it just gets worse from there...

CeeJay
10-12-05, 04:57 AM
Well guys, after a couple of days testing, ive found a good balance, where the game is hard, but wining and winning well is possible.

I use the following setting s in Legend difficulty:

Speed +40 Acceleration +10 Break tackle + 50 Pass Acc +70.

now this makes offense more fun and belive it or not im acytually starting to score runnaways, i got two in one game with Marshall and Hodgson.

Defence is tough, you must try and become the player closest to the ballcarrier right before he makes the tackle and then make it for him. If you miss you must try to hit him from behing or the side, and you cant be holding sprint when u make the hit or it wont work(youll go straight through him)The defence is capable of scoring runnaways.

When you make a runnaway yourself, try to swerve left or right like in RL1 and it can sometimes put enough space between you and the defender.

im starting to hav some fun with this.

Morgs
10-12-05, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 10 2005, 04:57 PM
Well guys, after a couple of days testing, ive found a good balance, where the game is hard, but wining and winning well is possible.

I use the following setting s in Legend difficulty:

Speed +40 Acceleration +10 Break tackle + 50 Pass Acc +70.

now this makes offense more fun and belive it or not im acytually starting to score runnaways, i got two in one game with Marshall and Hodgson.

Defence is tough, you must try and become the player closest to the ballcarrier right before he makes the tackle and then make it for him. If you miss you must try to hit him from behing or the side, and you cant be holding sprint when u make the hit or it wont work(youll go straight through him)The defence is capable of scoring runnaways.

When you make a runnaway yourself, try to swerve left or right like in RL1 and it can sometimes put enough space between you and the defender.

im starting to hav some fun with this.
Yeah I have just started a new franchise on legend and I am really enjoying it. So far I have gone L Bye L W W. I am scoring around 3-4 tries a game on 15 minutes but they are all from close range, so I might give your system a go and see if i can get any runaways.

It was funny though after my first 3 games I played a home game at Suncorp Stadium and there was NOBODY in the stadium. Completely bare. I thought it was funny. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

sanzar
10-12-05, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by Jacko@Dec 10 2005, 02:16 PM
Well what do you know. This game is released we say its crap, but it actually does come good after a while. EA release a game, we say its great and it just gets worse from there...
Thats exactly what I was thinking you know... When I first played Rugby 2005 I was blown away and thought it was absolutely brilliant, but then I quickly became more and more disappointed and irritated with it untill I couldn&#39;t stand it. With RL2 my initial impressions were pretty ordinary, but after a few days of getting into it I&#39;m getting more and more impressed!

CeeJay
10-12-05, 06:29 AM
Remember runnaways only come around once every several games, which is realsitic i guess, but when you get one it feels good!

How are you finding defence on Legend?

Morgs
10-12-05, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 10 2005, 06:29 PM
Remember runnaways only come around once every several games, which is realsitic i guess, but when you get one it feels good!

How are you finding defence on Legend?
TBH pretty simple. The AI normally make around 30 - 40 metres against me which is pretty realistic. The BIG difference between RL1 and RL2 on defence is that the AI no longer seems to score runaway tries.

In RL1 I would alwaysw be scared that they would break the line, but I don&#39;t think they are nearly as dangerous in RL2. Normally the AI scores one try a game against me.

Haven&#39;t been able to score anway runaway tries though http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif , although I have scored a few 20 - 30 metre tries.

esoj
10-12-05, 06:55 AM
breakaways are defintely hard to come by. you can make good yardage with the right passing at the right time.

Parore
10-12-05, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Morgs+Dec 10 2005, 06:43 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Morgs @ Dec 10 2005, 06:43 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-CeeJay@Dec 10 2005, 06:29 PM
Remember runnaways only come around once every several games, which is realsitic i guess, but when you get one it feels good!

How are you finding defence on Legend?
TBH pretty simple. The AI normally make around 30 - 40 metres against me which is pretty realistic. The BIG difference between RL1 and RL2 on defence is that the AI no longer seems to score runaway tries.

In RL1 I would alwaysw be scared that they would break the line, but I don&#39;t think they are nearly as dangerous in RL2. Normally the AI scores one try a game against me.

Haven&#39;t been able to score anway runaway tries though http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif , although I have scored a few 20 - 30 metre tries. [/b]
Boy oh boy in RL1 i couldnt even lay a hand on them at the kickoff and they scored runaways, and I kept kicking off so in one half I never saw the ball and the AI kept carving me up. Boy I hated RL1. That was a disgrace on how flimbsy your defence was and run away trys came thick and fast.

Im glad the defence is more controlable in RL2.

knowsleyroader
10-12-05, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Morgs+Dec 10 2005, 06:43 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Morgs @ Dec 10 2005, 06:43 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-CeeJay@Dec 10 2005, 06:29 PM
Remember runnaways only come around once every several games, which is realsitic i guess, but when you get one it feels good!

How are you finding defence on Legend?
TBH pretty simple. The AI normally make around 30 - 40 metres against me which is pretty realistic. The BIG difference between RL1 and RL2 on defence is that the AI no longer seems to score runaway tries.

In RL1 I would alwaysw be scared that they would break the line, but I don&#39;t think they are nearly as dangerous in RL2. Normally the AI scores one try a game against me.

Haven&#39;t been able to score anway runaway tries though http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif , although I have scored a few 20 - 30 metre tries. [/b]
I also think that. The AI is no longer as big a threat as it was in RL1. If you dropped your concentration in RL1 you could be hit with a barrage of tries in no time. I reckon I could go and make a brew on RL2 and still have a great chance that the AI will not score.

CeeJay
10-12-05, 10:20 AM
Thats why I have the break tackle slider set to +50, it ensures that the AI threatens. I have had runaway tries scored against me, and I even got beat 36-6 in one game.

I hav to admit that the more I play this the better it gets, im starting to learn how to create good attacks, and score good tries. My best so far is from kickoff. Jones caught the ball and stepped through the first line of defense, drew the fullback in and passed to toopi who ran about 60 metres to score!!

The game is still very buggy, but its definately worth playing now, anyone who finds the offense unthreatning should try my settings posted above on legend. You will still beat teams , even thrash some, but relish them becoz before you know youll get your arse whooped.

Frustratingly fun, thats the best way to describe it.

Paddy
10-12-05, 10:48 AM
will changing the pass accuracy slider stop passes going to ground? cos that ****** me off

i have a 2 on 1 overlap, my centre has the ball, draws the opposition centre in, i pass and the ball goes behind the winger to the ground

esoj
10-12-05, 11:01 AM
i believe this is what is paddy. your passes should go to man easier and not as many on the ground.

CeeJay
10-12-05, 11:48 AM
Thats right, and thats why i hav it at 70+, put it at 100 if you really hate it. It still happens fairly regularly, but not all the time like usual.

knowsleyroader
10-12-05, 01:03 PM
My copy has been promptly sold. Roll on RC2006

sanzar
10-12-05, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 12:03 AM
My copy has been promptly sold. Roll on RC2006
Oh well each to their own I guess... Maybe I didn&#39;t expect what you did, but for me RL2 is brilliant and easily the best rugby game I&#39;ve played to date! It&#39;s not perfect, but I&#39;ve never enjoyed a rugby game as much as this one.

Morgs
10-12-05, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by sanzar+Dec 11 2005, 01:14 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Dec 11 2005, 01:14 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 12:03 AM
My copy has been promptly sold. Roll on RC2006
Oh well each to their own I guess... Maybe I didn&#39;t expect what you did, but for me RL2 is brilliant and easily the best rugby game I&#39;ve played to date! It&#39;s not perfect, but I&#39;ve never enjoyed a rugby game as much as this one. [/b]
Same! This game took a long time to get used to, but now I know what I am doing, I love it!!

The passing system rocks.

Ripper
10-12-05, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by sanzar+Dec 11 2005, 02:14 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Dec 11 2005, 02:14 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 12:03 AM
My copy has been promptly sold. Roll on RC2006
Oh well each to their own I guess... Maybe I didn&#39;t expect what you did, but for me RL2 is brilliant and easily the best rugby game I&#39;ve played to date! It&#39;s not perfect, but I&#39;ve never enjoyed a rugby game as much as this one. [/b]
Hilarious... or as Chiro would say, Mountainlarious.

NZL Fan
10-12-05, 07:15 PM
I&#39;ll be keeping my copy................it isn&#39;t the greatest game in the world, but with some fiddling with individual player abilities/gameplay sliders it can be made playable (though still frustrating as mentioned above!).

I still think the problem of run away tries is the fact that the range of player speeds/accelerations is too small, hence little real difference between the real speedsters and the rest.

knowsleyroader
10-12-05, 07:39 PM
That was another of the strangest things. The fact there seemed little difference between players. In RL1 if you added a player like Matty Bowen to your team you saw the difference straight away and a star player like that could alter your whole season.

Just couldnt see a purchase in RL2 doing that in the same way.

Parore
10-12-05, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 08:39 AM
That was another of the strangest things. The fact there seemed little difference between players. In RL1 if you added a player like Matty Bowen to your team you saw the difference straight away and a star player like that could alter your whole season.

Just couldnt see a purchase in RL2 doing that in the same way.
RL1 also had Andrew Johns bump off 7 players to score a try, and never saw a forward ever hit the ball up.

Maybe your expectations was for an arcade type game with lots of action.

The best game of League I ever saw was the Warriors vs Raiders Semi Final, small scoreline but the excitement was the pressure of field position and territory and big hits rather than run away trys.

Also in RL2 if you want to score long range trys try just pass to a 4th player (cutting out 3 players using D+W and you get players running into a gaping hole and then you need to find a support player to pass to and they will score under the sticks. You cant expect to "bump of 7 players" and score trys like in RL1 or score from the scrum.

I score lots of runaway long range trys: http://www.warriorsforum.co.nz/runaway.wmv (http://www.nzwarriors.com/runaway.wmv), you just have to use the right players

sanzar
10-12-05, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Ripper+Dec 11 2005, 05:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ripper @ Dec 11 2005, 05:03 AM)</div>

Originally posted by sanzar@Dec 11 2005, 02:14 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 12:03 AM
My copy has been promptly sold. Roll on RC2006
Oh well each to their own I guess... Maybe I didn&#39;t expect what you did, but for me RL2 is brilliant and easily the best rugby game I&#39;ve played to date! It&#39;s not perfect, but I&#39;ve never enjoyed a rugby game as much as this one.
Hilarious... or as Chiro would say, Mountainlarious. [/b]
Why?

sanzar
10-12-05, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Parore+Dec 11 2005, 08:52 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Parore @ Dec 11 2005, 08:52 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 08:39 AM
That was another of the strangest things. The fact there seemed little difference between players. In RL1 if you added a player like Matty Bowen to your team you saw the difference straight away and a star player like that could alter your whole season.

Just couldnt see a purchase in RL2 doing that in the same way.
RL1 also had Andrew Johns bump off 7 players to score a try, and never saw a forward ever hit the ball up.

Maybe your expectations was for an arcade type game with lots of action.

The best game of League I ever saw was the Warriors vs Raiders Semi Final, small scoreline but the excitement was the pressure of field position and territory and big hits rather than run away trys.

Also in RL2 if you want to score long range trys try just pass to a 4th player (cutting out 3 players using D+W and you get players running into a gaping hole and then you need to find a support player to pass to and they will score under the sticks. You cant expect to "bump of 7 players" and score trys like in RL1 or score from the scrum.

I score lots of runaway long range trys: http://www.warriorsforum.co.nz/runaway.wmv (http://www.nzwarriors.com/runaway.wmv), you just have to use the right players [/b]
That&#39;s definately true. In this game your passing game is what scores you tries... you have to utilize cut outs and switches.

CeeJay
10-12-05, 11:57 PM
the offensive side of the game is starting to come together, its just the defense thats a bit dodgy still.

sanzar
11-12-05, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 11 2005, 10:57 AM
the offensive side of the game is starting to come together, its just the defense thats a bit dodgy still.
Yeah, it took me a bit to get the hang of (and I still am experimenting), but I&#39;m coming up with some funky moves now that my passing has improved! The passing system is absolutely brilliant in my opinion... It&#39;s a shame locks dad was so impatient http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

CeeJay
11-12-05, 12:13 AM
Nice runaway parore, but its clear that its on easy difficulty, all three of he defenders behind you could hav made the tackle but they just slowed down and did nothing! This try would not hav been possible on legend, you can only get runnaways with good (and sometimes lucky passing) or the sidestep.

Ripper
11-12-05, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by sanzar+Dec 11 2005, 12:42 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Dec 11 2005, 12:42 PM)</div>

Originally posted by Ripper@Dec 11 2005, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by sanzar@Dec 11 2005, 02:14 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 12:03 AM
My copy has been promptly sold. Roll on RC2006
Oh well each to their own I guess... Maybe I didn&#39;t expect what you did, but for me RL2 is brilliant and easily the best rugby game I&#39;ve played to date! It&#39;s not perfect, but I&#39;ve never enjoyed a rugby game as much as this one.
Hilarious... or as Chiro would say, Mountainlarious.
Why? [/b]
Because you touch yourself at night.

Now stop making idiotic and childish statements, what kind of mod are you?

sanzar
11-12-05, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Ripper@Dec 11 2005, 12:56 PM
Now stop making idiotic and childish statements, what kind of mod are you?
The kind that is vastly superior to you http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

kaftka
11-12-05, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by sanzar+Dec 11 2005, 02:51 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Dec 11 2005, 02:51 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Ripper@Dec 11 2005, 12:56 PM

Now stop making idiotic and childish statements, what kind of mod are you?
The kind that is vastly superior to you http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif [/b]
Yeah, superior like a fox!!

C A Iversen
11-12-05, 03:06 AM
Hmm, my experiences of the game were from a hire and I wasn&#39;t really too disappointed, but I knew to have a really accurate opinion of it, I&#39;d have to have played it about 20-30 times. That wasn&#39;t going to happen on an overnight hire.

So, I&#39;m leaving my buying decision, til the Friday before Christmas, and my decision will be made by what seems to be the general concensus of you guys here on the forum.

I don&#39;t completely trust any individuals review, but if more of you like it than hate it, then I&#39;ll buy.

I&#39;m sold on the features, but I need to know the gameplay is of at least good to very good level, (approximately a 7.5/10)

The most interesting and swaying opinions (for me) so far seem to be coming from:

CeeJay, Knowsleyroader, Parore, AK47, Sanzar.

With all respect to one of the very best forum members, I have to say that I have found Locksley&#39;s opinion to be too inconsistent this time, and personally I hope he plays the game for another week or so and then comes back with a definite opinion/rating. I think even he has had a hard time making up his mind on this one.

CeeJay so far seems to be the man doing the most real research and is neither raving, nor tearing down this game with his views. I have to say the detail has been impressive.

So, it comes down to all you guys, whether or not I buy this thing.
http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

187
11-12-05, 03:35 AM
yea dude, good features but u need to play the game for a while to suss things out.. defence and the bloody wingers running towards the sideline and passing to the playmaker are my only concerns.. but like sum1 said earlier.. the passing game is absolutely brilliant!!

CeeJay
11-12-05, 03:57 AM
In my expierience, when I first got the game I was stoked, as it was fast paced and lots of fun. When i upped the difficulty my excitement turned to dismay as this changed the game completely. Then after fiddling with the sliders and testing things for about 3 or 4 days, all of a sudden it started to get better. Now im having fun with my franchise, living from game to game for that high of scoring a runnaway try. This game still has that very rikity junky feeling to it like RL1, there is always something strange going on due to one bug or another. But at this stage im glad i have it. I will decide on a final verdict at the end of my first franchise season.

Dummies!!! Ive finally got the hang of dummies. for those of you who hav struggled with them like me, heres how to do them consistantly. When you have the ball hold down either pass left or pass right, and once the icons appear push the step of fend button(depening on which way you are going) and this will cancel the pass and do a dummy. I was having trouble getting the timing of pushing the buttons at the same time, often resulting in a spilt pass. This way you always perform the dummy. You hav to do them way earlier than RL1 for them to work.

Paddy
11-12-05, 05:30 AM
dummies are crap tho

they dont fool the AI

knowsleyroader
11-12-05, 08:12 AM
I think what most people who are enjoying the game are doing is living with the problems that they know exist.

What worries me most is that if SIDHE dont realise there is a problem with the most core fundamental of the game ( player control ) then this problem will continue with the franchise.

You dont hear people who play madden saying " How can I make the players turn quicker ", " Why do my guys keep running past everyone ". They bitch about things like Joe Blogs isnt no27 and he is rated 70 when he had 20,000 rushing yards during all rain matches last year.

The control is there ( FULL STOP ). We dont even have the control yet in game no 2, in fact the control was better in game 1.

For me the problem is either

a: Sidhe realised there is a problem but didnt have the time or funds to rectify the problem.

b: Sidhe have little idea about testing and going back to the drawing board when something isnt working.

I really think if SIDHE are to make a RL3 this engine should be scrapped and we need to start with something along the lines of the swordfish engine which is as smooth as a babys bum.

Good on ya the people that are looking past the flaws, I just cant do it this time around. Im now back on RL1 and enjoying that far more then RL2.

I really did give RL2 a huge chance and put in some real game time. But there is something wrong my friends when you have to **** about with sliders to try and accomodate the gameplay.

C A Iversen
11-12-05, 09:34 AM
I don&#39;t think most of the guys are saying it&#39;s great or anything. They seem to be saying that it&#39;s not terrible but not excellent either. Sort of an "acceptable" kind of rating.

I&#39;m sure player control is top of everyone&#39;s list, but what can we do about it? Tell Sidhe? They&#39;ve heard it for long enough now.

knowsleyroader
11-12-05, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by C A Iversen@Dec 11 2005, 09:34 PM
I don&#39;t think most of the guys are saying it&#39;s great or anything. They seem to be saying that it&#39;s not terrible but not excellent either. Sort of an "acceptable" kind of rating.

I&#39;m sure player control is top of everyone&#39;s list, but what can we do about it? Tell Sidhe? They&#39;ve heard it for long enough now.
But its got worse in RL2 than it was in RL1. If we dont tell them they will keep along the same lines. I dont like RL2, but I certainly want the franchise to continue as there is always a chance that they will get it right for me one day.

If the franchise stops where does that get anyone ?

It has to continue, but they have to know where they are going wrong. There is only one most important factor for me and that has to be player control.

If you dont have that what do you have ?

CeeJay
11-12-05, 10:05 AM
The fact that I am starting enjoy this game does not stop me from agreeing with 100% knowlsleyroader! I am able to look past the flaws, and and live with them, but, i shouldnt have to. I think that sidhe absolutely knew what they were releasing, but had neither the time or money to fix it. I think most of focus was on visuals, but with that done they should hopefully be able to smooth out the rest for RL23. They will also need to go back to the fundamental programming of legend mode in RL1 as it is the best challenge out there a far a s sports games go.

Compared to what I was expecting, it is a huge disapointment. But after 5 or 6 days its grown on me and I now see it as a good league game, with more potential than anything else. It sux that us rugby gamers always get the short straw when it comes to all rugby games, but we still cant help but go out and buy, because as far as rugby goes what else hav we got?

The ai does fall for dummies, its just hard to time, your probably better off trying a step or offload anyway as the success rate is higher.

esoj
11-12-05, 10:18 AM
player control is massive on goal line defence. there has been a few time where i have seen a gap and knowen the ai will either scoot from dummy half or pass but i still couldn&#39;t stop them because of the lack of player control. another bad example of player control i have experinced is when you intercept the ball often the player will run the wrong way and i have sometimes lost 10-15m after getting the intercept.

passing is bit of a let down i have noticed in my last few games that some players when they pass the pass to themselves which can lead to a loss of possesion. also in the wet i have noticed the ai seems to be able to pass as if it were dry but when i try a complicated passing move the pass either breaks down after 2 passes or it misses the intended target by miles and goes to ground.

despite these thing i still think the game is worth the purchase as the franchise mode is good and the modding capabilities seem nearly endless. this game proabbly won&#39;t suit everyone but i think it is a step in the right direction and with maybe a patch from the community sidhe the game could move to very good from good.

CeeJay
11-12-05, 10:29 AM
I think it was a bit stupid of sidhe to introduce total control passing, which is an awsome idea, only to have passes going to ground or out all the time, it seems to defat the purpose. Changing the passing accuracy slider to plus 70 does tidy tis up enough to be acceptable.

For anyone undecided on buying this game, you should consider that the learning curve is tough, and you will go through a rough period were nothing seems to work, and eveything goes wrong, once you are past this you should enjoy this game. you must be prepared to learn all the new stuff and hav alot of patience. Use shcool boy and reserve to get used to things and then be prpared for teething problems when you up it form there.

And if you get the a pc version prepare yourself for the most horendous control configuration known to man!!

esoj
11-12-05, 10:46 AM
i may have to consider altering that passing slider soon. aye pc config on keyboard is shocking from what i have heard and also if you have an unsupported controller the controls on it aren&#39;t that great

woosaah
11-12-05, 10:49 AM
just get used to the passing guys, it just takes time, i have no problem with the passing at all aye http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

i havn&#39;t had many go to ground if they do i know i pushed the wrong button (yes the chosing the controls do suck but mario said on the sidhe forums they are thinking about releasing a patch for this i hope they do this)

all should be good, as for catching the ball and running out, i havn&#39;t had that yet, had the ai do it plenty of times of i tackle them out which is fine.

and as for close to the line stuff, i have had no problem as you can choose which guy to be the defender just hope he doesnt go down blind and most of the time i can get the dummy half or the first reciver unless he decides to do a grubber (had 2 tries scored against me that way)

i am still loving it

sanzar
11-12-05, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 11 2005, 07:12 PM
I think what most people who are enjoying the game are doing is living with the problems that they know exist.

What worries me most is that if SIDHE dont realise there is a problem with the most core fundamental of the game ( player control ) then this problem will continue with the franchise.

You dont hear people who play madden saying " How can I make the players turn quicker ", " Why do my guys keep running past everyone ". They bitch about things like Joe Blogs isnt no27 and he is rated 70 when he had 20,000 rushing yards during all rain matches last year.

The control is there ( FULL STOP ). We dont even have the control yet in game no 2, in fact the control was better in game 1.

For me the problem is either

a: Sidhe realised there is a problem but didnt have the time or funds to rectify the problem.

b: Sidhe have little idea about testing and going back to the drawing board when something isnt working.

I really think if SIDHE are to make a RL3 this engine should be scrapped and we need to start with something along the lines of the swordfish engine which is as smooth as a babys bum.
There us probably too much momentum when it comes to player control, but personally I don&#39;t find it to be as much of a problem... maybe I&#39;m being too accomodating, but I&#39;ve got used to it and it doesn&#39;t bother me. However, I do agree that it is definately something sidhe need to work on in the next game, but at the same time I don&#39;t agree with you about the swordfish engine... I always thought it looked stupid seeing players stop on a dime to turn a full right angle running at light speed, because that isn&#39;t good either in my opinion. The momentum effect needs to be there because it&#39;s realistic, but there also needs to be better overall control.

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I really did give RL2 a huge chance and put in some real game time. But there is something wrong my friends when you have to **** about with sliders to try and accomodate the gameplay.[/b]
That&#39;s sort of the point of sliders though... If you don&#39;t like the way the game plays you can adjust it to suit you. I personally haven&#39;t felt the need to use them, as the gameplay suits me thus far, but other people seem to need to tweak it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Good on ya the people that are looking past the flaws, I just cant do it this time around. Im now back on RL1 and enjoying that far more then RL2.[/b]
If rugby fans can look past the inferior nature of the sport of NFL to enjoy madden games, then I can get over a couple minor (for me anyway) gameplay gripes in RL2 http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif .

CeeJay
11-12-05, 11:02 AM
Well wooshah, they say love is blind!!, unless your playing it on easy.

sanzar
11-12-05, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 11 2005, 09:29 PM
And if you get the a pc version prepare yourself for the most horendous control configuration known to man!!
Yeah I don&#39;t get that at all aye... Why they didn&#39;t include a button configuation option is beyond me! And why, if they were going to make a standardised control setup for the PC version, did they use such a terrible configuration?!?!? Why not just make it like the PS2 version????

locksley
11-12-05, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by C A Iversen@Dec 11 2005, 03:06 PM
With all respect to one of the very best forum members, I have to say that I have found Locksley&#39;s opinion to be too inconsistent this time, and personally I hope he plays the game for another week or so and then comes back with a definite opinion/rating. I think even he has had a hard time making up his mind on this one.
Point taken... but doesn&#39;t the fact that I can&#39;t make my mind up speak volumes?

RL2 is a strange game. I was playing franchise last night and loving every minute of it, but during every game I was cursing the control. I can&#39;t make my mind up. It&#39;s a game that I really love AND dislike at the sametime.

There are serious fundamental errors with the game, and the fact that you have to adjust the slider bars to get the best out of it says this to you. However, and this is only my opinion, I think it&#39;s waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay superior to RL1 and rewards you for spending lots of time on it.... but that defence http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

If you had all the features from RL2 & joined it up with the amazing, superb control system of Rugby Challenge 2006 then you&#39;d have the PERFECT rugby game.

knowsleyroader
11-12-05, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by locksley+Dec 11 2005, 11:39 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (locksley @ Dec 11 2005, 11:39 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 11 2005, 03:06 PM

With all respect to one of the very best forum members, I have to say that I have found Locksley&#39;s opinion to be too inconsistent this time, and personally I hope he plays the game for another week or so and then comes back with a definite opinion/rating. I think even he has had a hard time making up his mind on this one.
Point taken... but doesn&#39;t the fact that I can&#39;t make my mind up speak volumes?

RL2 is a strange game. I was playing franchise last night and loving every minute of it, but during every game I was cursing the control. I can&#39;t make my mind up. It&#39;s a game that I really love AND dislike at the sametime.

There are serious fundamental errors with the game, and the fact that you have to adjust the slider bars to get the best out of it says this to you. However, and this is only my opinion, I think it&#39;s waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay superior to RL1 and rewards you for spending lots of time on it.... but that defence http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

If you had all the features from RL2 & joined it up with the amazing, superb control system of Rugby Challenge 2006 then you&#39;d have the PERFECT rugby game. [/b]
Certainly agree with the last part although as sanzar said the engine could do with a bit more player inertia implemented but the swordfish isnt really far off the mark at all and with just a few simple tweaks it could be absolutely spot on.

Only wish someone could offer swordfish funding for a league game.

CeeJay
11-12-05, 08:37 PM
Locksleys right that this game rewards you for spending more time on it, but the defence!! I feel your pain!! I think it was you locksley who said that you struggled a bit with the RL1 defence, so I cant imagine how bad you are finding the RL2 defence. I hav to say that i think the defence in RL2 iS broken, no mater what you do you simply cannot cosisitantly make tackles. This shouldnt hav got passed the tester.

NZL Fan
11-12-05, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by locksley+Dec 11 2005, 11:39 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (locksley @ Dec 11 2005, 11:39 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 11 2005, 03:06 PM

With all respect to one of the very best forum members, I have to say that I have found Locksley&#39;s opinion to be too inconsistent this time, and personally I hope he plays the game for another week or so and then comes back with a definite opinion/rating. I think even he has had a hard time making up his mind on this one.
Point taken... but doesn&#39;t the fact that I can&#39;t make my mind up speak volumes?

RL2 is a strange game. I was playing franchise last night and loving every minute of it, but during every game I was cursing the control. I can&#39;t make my mind up. It&#39;s a game that I really love AND dislike at the sametime.

There are serious fundamental errors with the game, and the fact that you have to adjust the slider bars to get the best out of it says this to you. However, and this is only my opinion, I think it&#39;s waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay superior to RL1 and rewards you for spending lots of time on it.... but that defence http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

If you had all the features from RL2 & joined it up with the amazing, superb control system of Rugby Challenge 2006 then you&#39;d have the PERFECT rugby game. [/b]
This sort of sums it up for me as well. Enjoyable and frustrating all wrapped up as one.

Played Franchise mode last night and really enjoyed it (even had the "OK, one more game before I go to bed" thing happening.....).

Defense is too easy if anything once you work out what to do. Just sit back and just as the computer player is about to reach your defensive line quickly hit the "closest player&#39; selector and put in a big hit (generally you will have the support of a number of computer controlled teammates as well). MANY times you will force the ball out of the oppositions grasp.

May have to go up to Legend difficulty though as I have only conceded 1 try (a close range dummy half run) in 5 games with the warriors.

Mucking around with the sliders I have now got more realistic scorelines for games of 15 minutes. Note: using updated 2006 squads.

Game 1: 26-6 (dry, vrs sharks), game2: 6-0 (wet, vrs bulldogs), game3: 22-0 (dry vrs cowboys), game 4: 14-0 (wet, vrs panthers).

Lines breaks are averaging around 8 a game.

ak47
11-12-05, 08:53 PM
Can we have some suggestions with the sliders.

I am loving it, but i won the 2005 GF, and my team is getting better....BIG AMOS ROBERTS playin for da Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am on seasoned, and find legend, just to damn crazy and out of control with rgds to the AI passing etc...its extravagant!!

Before I move up to legend, i need to move thr sliders, coz i aint loading up legend on the defaults.

In ym 2005 season, i finshed with 8 losses, and was very satisfied with everything...stats, scorelines, types of tries etc

with each play, i learn something new, it just keeps getting better

i score some sensational runaway tries, and even one of a grubber kick.....BRILLIANT STUFF.

yes it has issues, but i am having more fun with this than R2k5......

NZL Fan
11-12-05, 08:57 PM
I&#39;m using the warriors, and their 2006 squad pretty much sucks................however I have created "the Man" Mundine, and he is playing a fine role at standoff for me........ http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif (cost: $205,000)

The other problem with the warriors in 2006 is the small squad. Already lost Lauaki for 5 weeks and Faumuina for 12 weeks with a bung knee.

CeeJay
11-12-05, 09:23 PM
Nothing i did with th sliders on seasoned made the ai anymore threatning. U just need to move up to legend, and even that will become a bit easy on normal settings. Ive posted the settings I use earlier in this thread. They are still working well.

e.g. In origin one I got beat 36 - 6 and in origin two i won 18- 16. My season is currently 12 -5- 0 with the warriors and im in second position. I hav never held a team to 0 points!

-JJ-
11-12-05, 09:37 PM
Off the top of my head for my sliders...

Break tackle - Down
Offloads - Up
Pass accuracy - Up
Strips - Up

TheBokke
11-12-05, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by ak47@Dec 12 2005, 08:53 AM
Can we have some suggestions with the sliders.

I am loving it, but i won the 2005 GF, and my team is getting better....BIG AMOS ROBERTS playin for da Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am on seasoned, and find legend, just to damn crazy and out of control with rgds to the AI passing etc...its extravagant!!

Before I move up to legend, i need to move thr sliders, coz i aint loading up legend on the defaults.

In ym 2005 season, i finshed with 8 losses, and was very satisfied with everything...stats, scorelines, types of tries etc

with each play, i learn something new, it just keeps getting better

i score some sensational runaway tries, and even one of a grubber kick.....BRILLIANT STUFF.

yes it has issues, but i am having more fun with this than R2k5......
Hey question for u AK 47 I know you like side view like me do you play it on sideview or from behind?

Wally
11-12-05, 10:32 PM
Just from the first game I picked up on most things that have been said. On reserve I managed to some how not score a try by half time, 0-0. The second half was a totally different ball game and I absolutely carved up Les Catalans with three or four tries but each time I got over I didn&#39;t know how to dot the ball down.

Brisbane Broncos 0, Les Catalans 6

I defiantely need to adjust the ball to ground and knock on thing. How do I access the sliders? Oh, and how do I put the ball down once over the try line? (keyboard).

P.S. If anyone has Logitech controller could they tell me the buttons and ****.

Amen,

Wally.

Parore
11-12-05, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Ride The Cliche@Dec 12 2005, 09:57 AM
I&#39;m using the warriors, and their 2006 squad pretty much sucks................however I have created "the Man" Mundine, and he is playing a fine role at standoff for me........ http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif (cost: $205,000)

The other problem with the warriors in 2006 is the small squad. Already lost Lauaki for 5 weeks and Faumuina for 12 weeks with a bung knee.
Just update the squads to include the 2006 players
mine currently looks like

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4053/rugbyleague220051212112315376b.jpg

ak47
11-12-05, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by TheBokke+Dec 12 2005, 10:26 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Dec 12 2005, 10:26 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-ak47@Dec 12 2005, 08:53 AM
Can we have some suggestions with the sliders.

I am loving it, but i won the 2005 GF, and my team is getting better....BIG AMOS ROBERTS playin for da Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am on seasoned, and find legend, just to damn crazy and out of control with rgds to the AI passing etc...its extravagant!!

Before I move up to legend, i need to move thr sliders, coz i aint loading up legend on the defaults.

In ym 2005 season, i finshed with 8 losses, and was very satisfied with everything...stats, scorelines, types of tries etc

with each play, i learn something new, it just keeps getting better

i score some sensational runaway tries, and even one of a grubber kick.....BRILLIANT STUFF.

yes it has issues, but i am having more fun with this than R2k5......
Hey question for u AK 47 I know you like side view like me do you play it on sideview or from behind? [/b]
behind cam Bokke!!!

all the other angles are unplayable

I rather sidecam...always will, but it just doesnt work in this game

Once i master the game, inside out, i will endeavour a new franchise on an easy setting with sidecam.............u could only use it on easier difficulties to get any fun out of it.

Surely people have moved the agility slider.............to update the buses with powersteering.

I like those stats Ceejay

I will utilise your sliders, and incorporate any other suggestions and sheak n tweak

NZL Fan
11-12-05, 10:38 PM
Parore: You&#39;ve got a few players in there that are no longer part of the squad though???

Wally
11-12-05, 10:42 PM
Haha. But seriously, how do I put the ball down once I&#39;m over the line?

Parore
11-12-05, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Ride The Cliche@Dec 12 2005, 11:38 AM
Parore: You&#39;ve got a few players in there that are no longer part of the squad though???
Yeah i am going to create a Le Catalans club and offload them there

woosaah
11-12-05, 10:45 PM
&#39;a&#39; on the keyboard to ground the ball (think it was button 4 on the controller)

there is a thread on the sidhe forums that has the supposedly updated players.

Wally
11-12-05, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by woosaah@Dec 12 2005, 10:45 AM
&#39;a&#39; on the keyboard to ground the ball (think it was button 4 on the controller)

there is a thread on the sidhe forums that has the supposedly updated players.
Radical. And the sliders, where are they?

loratadine
11-12-05, 10:57 PM
im dissapointed with the game.

ak47
11-12-05, 11:03 PM
u know when u unlock something and ur prompted to save ur profile??

what happens if you dont save the profile

i have unlocked some things but have never saved my profile.....do i still have the unlocked content or do i have to do the hours again??

woosaah
11-12-05, 11:26 PM
you have to do the hours again

sliders are in the options settings somewhere there (game options?)

NZL Fan
11-12-05, 11:31 PM
You have to do the time again............

Heres what I have done with the sliders.

Agility,speed, acceleration, break tackle and passing abilties - ALL +60%

Now, after saying how good my defense was............just played the tigers and heres how it panned out......

*Reick scores a scorcher for them. FIRST TIME I have seen the AI score from a 50mtr break. Reick beats my winger on the outside just inside his half, dummys inside (sucking in another defender), outpaces the defense and makes a beeline for the middle of the posts where he rolls/dives in for a long range try - 0-6 tigers.
(Im in shock - hadn&#39;t thought the computer capable of this).

*Again they get a roll on, switch play to an inside runner who only just makes the chalk in a 2 man covering tackle - 0-12 tigers.

*Finally able to put the pressure on, and after making good yards Wiki scores by running over the top of the final defender - 6-12 tigers.

*Tigers hot on attack with 6 tackles on my line. Heroic defense keeps them out. Benji Marshall takes the drop goal at close range on the last tackle - 6-13 tigers.

*With just over a minute to play I get a penalty about 30 mtrs out from the tigers line. Realising I need to score at least twice I take a shot at goal - 8-13 tigers.

*Playing catch up footy in my own half I push the pass which is gratefully collected by the tigers. They eat up time remaining and the siren goes - 8-13 tigers final score.

Overall a great game of footy, 6 lines breaks apiece and beaten by a side propping up the foot of the table in my comp.

CeeJay
11-12-05, 11:34 PM
Just go into options and manually save yor settings and u wont lose anything.

the sliders are in the customise game section

CeeJay
11-12-05, 11:40 PM
Parore, how could you afford all those players?

I found that putting the speed and acceleration sliders that high, prevented u from getting runnaways(as u get caught real easy) while it was still ok for the ai. Let me know how it goes after several games.

ak47
11-12-05, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 12 2005, 11:40 AM
Parore, how could you afford all those players?

I found that putting the speed and acceleration sliders that high, prevented u from getting runnaways(as u get caught real easy) while it was still ok for the ai. Let me know how it goes after several games.
what is the best settings for user runnaway trys

when u adjust the sliders, doesnt it effect both ai and user

so how do we up the users abilities, to have more fun in legend

Ian2oo5
12-12-05, 12:05 AM
I&#39;ve got the game but can&#39;t have it until Christmas! any1 whos got the PC version, if it aint to much trouble can some1 post just a couple pix of some SL teams? Mainly Saints! ;o). Not game shots , shots of the team like the 1 in this thread of the NZ warriors or something.

Thanks!

esoj
12-12-05, 12:50 AM
playing as the warriors is tricky as you don&#39;t have a lot of room to move with the cap. I managed to re-sign almost everyone though execpt for webb and martin +te mata who is utter crap and i terminated his contract. I got sam thaiday from the broncos and hopefully someone picks up either martin or temata so that I can get a back in for webb.

I have been having some cracking games now that I am nearing the finals and have even lost a few and I am only on reserve. i only have the one injury at the moment but it is a big one with pricey out for another 5 weeks. i defintely am missing him as well my go forward is a bit down so in some game i have been struggling to get out of my half. I am defintely going to play with the sliders as the passing is really annoying me and aglity will be going up as well.

ak47
12-12-05, 01:05 AM
yeah u gotto move agility.......control and response is an issue, thus agile me up

anyone got news to report on player progression of new rookies???

do the stats move???

CeeJay
12-12-05, 01:13 AM
I hav speed at plus 20 and acceleration at plus 10, I played around with these alot, and found that while it does affect both u and the ai,the ai always has a slight advantage, the more u go up, the more advantage that seems to shift to the ai, so the settings i used seemed to strike a balance where if i am in decent space i can make break. I sometimes get 2 or three runaways a game, and sometimes none for two or three games, most are from about 50 metres out and closer with the occasional big one, my biggest being about 70 metres. You may find you something you like better by fiddling around but if oyu cant be bothered then just try my settings. dont forget 50 plus for break tackle aswell, and this did not work on seasoned only legend, on seaoned u should be able to get runnaways on normal settings, but the ai never will.

Parore
12-12-05, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 12 2005, 12:40 PM
Parore, how could you afford all those players?

I found that putting the speed and acceleration sliders that high, prevented u from getting runnaways(as u get caught real easy) while it was still ok for the ai. Let me know how it goes after several games.
I cant afford them

Im -$220,000 so far, so I need to win the premiership and get $250,000 income and other sponsership to keep my job
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8262/rugbyleague220051212142554213h.jpg

ak47
12-12-05, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Parore@Dec 12 2005, 01:29 PM
Im -$220,000 so far, so I need to win the premiership and get $250,000 income and other sponsership to keep my job
MAN I LOVE THIS GAME

how good is that!

Ur on thin ground Parore.............i can see the Daily Telegraph campaign asking for the Parore chop.

Parore
12-12-05, 01:49 AM
I guess this isnt a good time to mention the Bangalow I bought in Auckland... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

ak47
12-12-05, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Parore@Dec 12 2005, 01:49 PM
I guess this isnt a good time to mention the Bangalow I bought in Auckland... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

or any luxurious vacations in June http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

esoj
12-12-05, 01:58 AM
lol awesome stuff their parore the price of success catching up with you. seems like no one is going to pick up martin or te mata so i will proabbly have to shift ropati to full back next seaon.

CeeJay
12-12-05, 02:08 AM
The boost to your income shouldnt matter should it?? what about the salary cap, if u exceed it you exceed it regarless of how much profit you make. There is a salary cap isnt there?

Paddy
12-12-05, 02:30 AM
yeh

i made 9million on my first year ( i won the premiership and also undeafeated)

but i cant use that 9million on the players, altho i wish i can http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

NZL Fan
12-12-05, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 12 2005, 01:13 PM
I hav speed at plus 20 and acceleration at plus 10, I played around with these alot, and found that while it does affect both u and the ai,the ai always has a slight advantage, the more u go up, the more advantage that seems to shift to the ai, so the settings i used seemed to strike a balance where if i am in decent space i can make break. I sometimes get 2 or three runaways a game, and sometimes none for two or three games, most are from about 50 metres out and closer with the occasional big one, my biggest being about 70 metres. You may find you something you like better by fiddling around but if oyu cant be bothered then just try my settings. dont forget 50 plus for break tackle aswell, and this did not work on seasoned only legend, on seaoned u should be able to get runnaways on normal settings, but the ai never will.
+60% for both acceleration and speed works pretty well for me - computer doesn&#39;t get an advantage in terms of clean breaks (usually the stat for line breaks is very similar for each side).

As for being easier to catch, I disagree. At least you can make an initial break and are then have that little bit of extra time to link up with supporting players.

Changing the passing to 60% evens up that ability somewhat as the computer seems to pull off miracle passes even when this is set low (ie. they can&#39;t get much better).

..and of course the offloads the computer can pull off is something the user can never do.........

Question: Has anybody had the computer strip the ball off them in the tackle at all??? Have done quite a few myself but have never had it happen to me??

Wally
12-12-05, 03:01 AM
So could we get an unofficial list of what the sliders should be on to get the most out of this game?

CeeJay
12-12-05, 04:17 AM
I just palyed five 20 minute games with the settings at what you hav them ride the cliche, and I noticed two things, I no longer scored any runnaway tries, and the opposition failed to score any tries at all, including a game against aussie with the kiwis, I won 26 nil.The increase in speed allowed my players to mow down the opposition too easily! You are playing on legend right? Im going back to my old settings, maybe i will tweek the acceleration as i did notice guys going through gaps quicker.

I would encourage everyone else to hav a play around with the sliders and find what is best for them, but if you find things are going wrong and youre never winning, or winning too much, try my settings. I spent sooooo long playing around with these sliders at all the different settings, and i think i found the most cosistent.

CeeJay
12-12-05, 04:20 AM
Parore, when i try to buy players that i cant afford it will not allow me to proceed, how did you get all these players on your team? How much is the salary cap?

esoj
12-12-05, 05:19 AM
i think its 3.5 mill or something. my franchise is going well into second season and have already signed most of the squad back up. I will proabbly lose the players i haven&#39;t signed as i onlly have just over 70 grand left and they all want more than I am offering. this isn&#39;t too bad though as i am very pleased at having signed almost everyone up execpt for 3 players. jones re-signed for like 315 so thats good. i got a few to sign a for a bit less than market value. I paid heaps of anderson last year like 240 so the effect of that is coming in this year. vuna is turning out to be an awesome centre he has great pace

i must remember to turn the aglity and passin up,

NZL Fan
12-12-05, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 12 2005, 04:20 PM
Parore, when i try to buy players that i cant afford it will not allow me to proceed, how did you get all these players on your team?* How much is the salary cap?
Salary cap for franchise is set at the level of the team with the highest salaries cost in the first year of franchise............hence if you "stack" your team with superstars during the first year then you&#39;ll find that for the second year the other teams will have extra money to burn to reach your salary level.

NZL Fan
12-12-05, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 12 2005, 04:17 PM
I just palyed five 20 minute games with the settings at what you hav them ride the cliche, and I noticed two things, I no longer scored any runnaway tries, and the opposition failed to score any tries at all, including a game against aussie with the kiwis, I won 26 nil.The increase in speed allowed my players to mow down the opposition too easily! You are playing on legend right? Im going back to my old settings, maybe i will tweek the acceleration as i did notice guys going through gaps quicker.

I would encourage everyone else to hav a play around with the sliders and find what is best for them, but if you find things are going wrong and youre never winning, or winning too much, try my settings. I spent sooooo long playing around with these sliders at all the different settings, and i think i found the most cosistent.
Interesting..............and the sliders supposidly work in both teams favour??, makes you wonder..........(playing seasoned mode at present).

CeeJay
12-12-05, 09:52 AM
How do i know what the salary cap is, It says i hav 63 000 left, but when offer a a cheap free agent a 61 000 it says i will exceed my salary cap. WTF.

St Helens RLFC
12-12-05, 05:38 PM
Right, I have spent almost the entire day playing Rugby League 2, and I can now decide that I really like it.

The thing with this game is that it is very customisable Ė you can even turn up or down knock ons. Sadly, I do have some issues with the game that stop it being completely brilliant.

Iíll get the bad out of the way.

1) I havenít played any Aussie games yet, but thereís a lot of laziness with Super League stuff. EG the home team often appears in their away strip if thereís a clash. Also, Warrington still playing at Wilderspool Ė thereís no excuse for that, thatís just lazy.

2) You canít pick your own Origin teams. Why?

3) Stupidity from your own players, catching it on the line. SIDHE must invest in a button like Pro Evo, that you can push and your player backs away from the ball.

4) Slow menu loading times Ė not exactly the biggest problem on Earth but it is very much a nuisance.

But there is so much thatís great about this game. First and foremost, it looks GREAT. It really does look mega realistic. The kits are excellent, that stadiums are excellent, most of the players are excellent. Top notch, SIDHE.

OK, so there are some gameplay and control issues Ė the turning circles being one of them, passes behind men, but other than whatís been mentioned by others I canít really see anything that grates on me too much.

CeeJay
12-12-05, 09:14 PM
You can actually scale knock ons, you can turn them off, or on, and thats it. The same goes for injuries. This is real stupi as they are two things that really impact the gae, but you dont want them off, just scaled down a bit. This game is not nearly as custmisable as you think, most fo the sliders produce viod results because they apply to bothe u and the ai, speed, passing, agility and acceleration are the only ones that make a noticible difference. Having said that he sliders did save this game for me http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif but sidhe should get no pats on the back for it.

Wally
12-12-05, 09:41 PM
Does anyone know if there is going to be an offical or unofficial controller configuration patch released?

esoj
12-12-05, 10:51 PM
last i heard Sidhe are thinking of making a patch and controller config for the pc will be considered if a patch is made

CeeJay
12-12-05, 11:23 PM
Oops, i meant you CANT actually scale knock ons.

woosaah
12-12-05, 11:25 PM
yeah we figured that http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

if you have a special player that you dont want to get injured you can change his stats in the rldatabase so he will never get injured (or your whole team if you dont want injuries for your team at all)

i know thats cheating http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif but who cares really http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

CeeJay
13-12-05, 12:02 AM
I was just havin a read over at the RL2 forums, and Mario just threatened to ban some guy for suggesting that sidhe were lazy! I find this quite amusing considering there is evidence of Laziness littered throughout this game! Mario also said "feel free to insult us anywhere but in our own house" Well maybe, but the whole point of a forum is for people to say what they think good and bad, and i think sidhe need to hear the bad if RL3 is going to shine. There should be no tolerence for abuse in a forum, but calling sidhe lazy is not abuse. People hav payed good money for this game, and hav the right to call it how they see it.

woosaah
13-12-05, 12:10 AM
yeah he is a bit fast to jump the gun, look what happened here when he couldn&#39;t take the abuse, though i dont blame him for leaving i just wish he would come back here.

ak47
13-12-05, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 12 2005, 01:13 PM
I hav speed at plus 20 and acceleration at plus 10, I played around with these alot, and found that while it does affect both u and the ai,the ai always has a slight advantage, the more u go up, the more advantage that seems to shift to the ai,
so with this do you reckon if we scaled down into the negative it would have the reverse effect, and the ai woul dget even slower???

i adjusted my sliders close to yours and cliches

had tonnes more fun

and i discovered the l1, r1 change player in the backline during the play the ball, and the whole game opened up again for me

i am still loving it

tuff games....great randomness with the outcome of each game....this game does not have a monotinous tone at all........each game plays different, and i really love that

CeeJay
13-12-05, 12:58 AM
If you scale them down it all goes bad, it takes you like ten taps just to ge the speed burst going, and ieverything goes at snails pace, i found it awful.

ak47
13-12-05, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 13 2005, 12:02 PM
I was just havin a read over at the RL2 forums, and Mario just threatened to ban some guy for suggesting that sidhe were lazy! I find this quite amusing considering there is evidence of Laziness littered throughout this game! Mario also said "feel free to insult us anywhere but in our own house" Well maybe, but the whole point of a forum is for people to say what they think good and bad, and i think sidhe need to hear the bad if RL3 is going to shine. There should be no tolerence for abuse in a forum, but calling sidhe lazy is not abuse. People hav payed good money for this game, and hav the right to call it how they see it.
i dunno whats funnier

the fact mario cant face a bit of slack

or that the delay was meant to deliver a perfect game, iron out all issues

yet pc version has controller issues
we have seen a few glitches
game wont work on chipped ps2&#39;s
pirates can play online

well there are many control gaps at sidhe............thus yes they are LAZY!!!

although a better game than i thought i was getting

but still not a 9/10 as per magazines.........what drugs are they on, coz i want some

edit: OH YEAH I FORGOT ABOUT THE RIGHT FOOTED COVELL.............I guess he is ampidextrous (spelling?) http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Fools

woosaah
13-12-05, 02:08 AM
ahh change the right foot to left, its no that hard (if you have pc vers but i am guessing you dont)

i had a crazy bug yesterday, the computer was going in for a try, but instead of putting the ball down or diving he decided to do a dummy and ran over the dead ball line. i was going "whew" as i was down by a try already. but they gave him a try.

looked at the replay he dummied and the ball just stayed in mid air not doing anything it was odd.

wrong animation there guys and the ball floating damn

that cracked me up though http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

CeeJay
13-12-05, 02:28 AM
I had the same thing, he did a dummy while he was diving over the line rsulting in him headbutting the ground and sliding along on his forehead, he still got a try and it was pretty funny. But you cant help but think that the list of bugs is getting awful long!!

esoj
13-12-05, 02:28 AM
i wouldn&#39;t complain about sidhe forum as the ea forum a few years back got shut down because of cricticisim about their games. sure it would be nice for sidhe to allow almost anything to go but ultimately it is their forum and they can do what they like with it and the fact they have forums is a miracle in itself.

the delay was to fix some bugs or something wrong with the game but not the whole delay was them tweaking the game. for all we know they may have only spent a month fixing something and the rest could of been HES/tru blu deciding on a release date. sure a perfect game would have been good but no game ships without bugs and rl 2 is no different. this does not mean that things like being able to configure controller should be left out. i had a friend over today and he is not stranger to sports games or keyboard controls but during our matches he was wishing he could change the controls. sidhe have failed on some things but to expect a perfect game is wrong

Wally
13-12-05, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by ak47+Dec 13 2005, 01:54 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak47 @ Dec 13 2005, 01:54 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-CeeJay@Dec 13 2005, 12:02 PM
I was just havin a read over at the RL2 forums, and Mario just threatened to ban some guy for suggesting that sidhe were lazy! I find this quite amusing considering there is evidence of Laziness littered throughout this game! Mario also said "feel free to insult us anywhere but in our own house" Well maybe, but the whole point of a forum is for people to say what they think good and bad, and i think sidhe need to hear the bad if RL3 is going to shine. There should be no tolerence for abuse in a forum, but calling sidhe lazy is not abuse. People hav payed good money for this game, and hav the right to call it how they see it.
i dunno whats funnier

the fact mario cant face a bit of slack

or that the delay was meant to deliver a perfect game, iron out all issues

yet pc version has controller issues
we have seen a few glitches
game wont work on chipped ps2&#39;s
pirates can play online

well there are many control gaps at sidhe............thus yes they are LAZY!!!

although a better game than i thought i was getting

but still not a 9/10 as per magazines.........what drugs are they on, coz i want some

edit: OH YEAH I FORGOT ABOUT THE RIGHT FOOTED COVELL.............I guess he is ampidextrous (spelling?) http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Fools [/b]
Just for the record pirates can not play online. There&#39;s an in-built CD key or some horse ****.

CeeJay
13-12-05, 02:38 AM
The difference though, is that sidhe claim to listen to the fans, so if they dont listen to the bad things how can they ever make a better game? I dont think anyone should abuse them or even be rude but they deserve criticism for this one. We all know that there will never be a perfect game, and that all games ship with bugs, but come on! The amount of bugs in RL2 is astronomical! Infact Bugby League 2 would hav been a less misleading title. Ill take what i can get when it comes to rugby games, but i sure as hell am not going to pat sidhe on the back for this one, and I actually like this game, so imagine how some others are feeling.

CeeJay
13-12-05, 02:39 AM
Sux for you Wally!! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

ak47
13-12-05, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 13 2005, 02:38 PM
Infact Bugby League 2
http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

I LOVE IT

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

esoj
13-12-05, 02:44 AM
being called lazy is personal abuse and has nothing to with improving league games at all. there are bugs that need to be looked at for sure but even fifa will have animation errors. sidhe do listen to the fans many of the things in rl 2 are because of the fans and they are considering making a patch because of the fans complaints. the game may not have lived up to your expectations but sidhe still have made a good game. it is no fifa for sure that is granted but imo it is a step in the right direction

NZL Fan
13-12-05, 02:54 AM
Just had a look at Gols rugby league gaming website and he had this to say about rugby league 2.......

"Everybody who has previewed this game has kept a huge secret in the bag. This game is incredible. This game is amazing. You must play this game. It is what you&#39;ve always dreamed of but thought would never happen. Sidhe have given us a true gift".

"It plays like real football, the graphics are sensational, the new options and moves add so much to the game, and it is so clean, no bugs, no exploits, no faults".

"It is single handedly the best sports game I&#39;ve ever played, and yes, it is because it is finally a near faultless version of Rugby League in digital form".

What the hell!!!!!!!!???????

I used to have some respect for this guys opinions - but no more!!!!

(Look what happens when the developers put your name in the credits, and in the game as a commentary name....)

CeeJay
13-12-05, 03:01 AM
Yeah, its two steps forward and one step back. If they spend all of their time fixing these problems for the next one, then it may just be brilliant. Did I mention that I do like this game? I commend sidhe for what they done with RL games especially staring so smalll and being in NZ! of all places. BUT, they didnt step up on this one the way that they should hav. This is an average game, made good by the fact that i love rugby games. I know that sidhe do listen the fans, thats why its important to let them know that this game shipped with problems that should hav been the first things fixed. I hav to admit calling them lazy is not going to help anyone, and im sure that given the time and money they would happily hav fixed everything. Thier priority this time was clearly graphics, and on a more positive note, they done an amazing job. I still maintain that this game has the best player models (outside of next gen) txtures and liknesses that i hav ever seen! So imagine what they could do if they spent that amount of time and focus and all the other aspects for rugby league 3.

Damn esoj, are u sure your not a sidhe employee? http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

esoj
13-12-05, 03:04 AM
that is obviously gol talking out of his ass which no way can be sidhe&#39;s fault. reviews in magazines are worthless as well as people reviewing have no clue on what they are doing most of the time. this is not a bug free game but it&#39;s not the worst game either.

I wish i was ceejay i wish I was. they should so move up to auckland or open offices up here.

ak47
13-12-05, 03:59 AM
look it has issues no doubts

but it is the best rugby genre type game i have played since JLR

its better than Rugby 2005

this decision of mine occured last night, when playing with new sliders...its damn fun

the problems is the twitch out with player stats, fees and the hypothetical dollars, and of course the lil bugs withing the 80mins

but its safe to say this

"rugby league....the greatest game of all"................is true on both fronts of real life, and rugby genre type

i cant get enough of.............THATS MY..........THAT MY........THAT MY TEEEAAAAM

THEY SAY, THEY SAY................BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLA

THATS MY...THAT MY!!!!

FFS ONLY PRO EVO GIVES ME GOOSE BUMBS......THE INTRO TO LEAGUE 2 DOES NOW TOO..........COZ I KNOW THATS MY TEAM, MY CONTROLLER, MY TV, AND MY f***ING WORLD OF THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL IN VIRTUAL FORM http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

NZL Fan
13-12-05, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by ak47@Dec 13 2005, 03:59 PM
look it has issues no doubts

but it is the best rugby genre type game i have played since JLR

its better than Rugby 2005

this decision of mine occured last night, when playing with new sliders...its damn fun

the problems is the twitch out with player stats, fees and the hypothetical dollars, and of course the lil bugs withing the 80mins

but its safe to say this

"rugby league....the greatest game of all"................is true on both fronts of real life, and rugby genre type

i cant get enough of.............THATS MY..........THAT MY........THAT MY TEEEAAAAM

THEY SAY, THEY SAY................BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLA

THATS MY...THAT MY!!!!

FFS ONLY PRO EVO GIVES ME GOOSE BUMBS......THE INTRO TO LEAGUE 2 DOES NOW TOO..........COZ I KNOW THATS MY TEAM, MY CONTROLLER, MY TV, AND MY f***ING WORLD OF THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL IN VIRTUAL FORM http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif
Yes we all love it because it depicts one of our favourite sports, with some of our favourite sports stars, HOWEVER distance yourself from that fact for a moment and judge it purely from a gameplaying point of view.............

.....it is pretty average at best.

If PES 5 is considered a 9/10 then this game could be rated no higher then 6 or 7/10???

I enjoy it, but to be fair only because I am prepared to look past its failings in order to play (in console form) one of the sports I really love.

Gols inaccurate "ravings&#39; above only goes to show how desperate some rugby league gaming officianados have become for anything remotely resembling a game of footy in gaming form..........

esoj
13-12-05, 04:44 AM
of course this is no pes 5 that would be crazy thinking but it is a big step for rugby gaming in general and a lot further than ea have gone in about 3 or 4 attempts at union. swordfish are making tremdous strides as well and we will see next year hopefully how far they have come since wcr.

NZL Fan
13-12-05, 04:52 AM
I was only using PES5 as a "yardstick" for rugby league 2 to be rated (PES5 being rated highest in my books).

"A big step" I disagree with, an improved reworking of rugby league 1 I would agree with (This "tweaking" I&#39;d hardly call a big step forward in rugby gaming history).

Franchise has been a welcome addition however.

Until swordfish and EA get their new rugby games on the shelves we will not know for certain how good rugby league 2 is in comparison to todays market.

esoj
13-12-05, 04:56 AM
the passing system is unheard of in rugby games and the franchise mode is the best i have ever seen in any rugby game. the graphics are the best as well. sure there are some bugs but compared to other rugby games this is streets ahead. and until rugby 06 and rugby challenge come out this is the best we have and the yardstick to measure by. comparing this game to anything but rugby games is rediculous and imo this is the best game in comparrison to other rugby games.

NZL Fan
13-12-05, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by esoj@Dec 13 2005, 04:56 PM
comparing this game to anything but rugby games is rediculous and imo this is the best game in comparrison to other rugby games.
Maybe for &#39;rugby nuts" (who were always going to buy the game anyhow), but for pure "sports lovers" (the floating customers that rugby game developers need to make purchases in order to improve future rugby game budgets etc) of course you can stack this game up against other sports games and compare........http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif

Remember Gol said it was the best sports game he had ever played.

.........hell people compare games of different genre all the time, let alone in the SAME genre............

Just because it is rugby should we be happy to pay the same amount as we would for other far superior sports games??

You are correct (though some may disagree) that this is the best "rugby" game on the market at the present moment, however this doesn&#39;t mean it is a very good rugby game due to the standard of the competition.

ak47
13-12-05, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by Ride The Cliche@Dec 13 2005, 07:15 PM
Just because it is rugby should we be happy to pay the same amount as we would for other far superior sports games??
You are correct (though some may disagree) that this is the best "rugby" game on the market at the present moment, however this doesn&#39;t mean it is a very good rugby game due to the standard of the competition.
No.....I believe that if PES5 is $90.00 no other sports game should be more.....or perhaps we could argue that PES5 should be more...confused.

Your second comment is spot on aswell

The competition isnt great....but its getting better.

IMO RC2006 is to be the spanker we want..based on reports, especially knowsley road, whom is the hardest critic in the cosmos!!!
NRL2 is a very solid effort, better than i thought, yet not perfect, but has revolutionised a few aspects in the lateral passing game, that may be the way, and the benchmark going forward.

C A Iversen
13-12-05, 07:28 AM
I&#39;m not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

NZL Fan
13-12-05, 07:29 AM
It should be interesting to compare RC2006&#39;s gameplay with RL2.

Both were completed around the same time, both with much less resource then someone like HB studios, both dealing with the same key gameplay aspects (running with the ball, tackling, kicking, passing).

C A Iversen
13-12-05, 07:44 AM
Yeah, I mean they both have had a similar level of pre-match hype on this forum. Both with that "This is a 9/10 game" sort of slant to it.

I feel from what I have heard Rugby League 2 is more like a 6.5/10 and significantly less good than we heard, although still somewhat playable.

I predict that Rugby Challenge 2006 will end up not being as good as what we have heard either, although the reviews so far sound so incredibly detailed and positive, I think it&#39;s fall from grace will be limited to it being about a 8.0/10.

I can&#39;t help it, I&#39;m addicted to judging everything out of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ak47, your an 8.2
esoj your a 6.9
Ceejay your a 8.6
Locksley your a 9.2
Ride The Cliche 7.4
Jacko 4.9
Kaftka 9.8
Kinkon 89 8.9
Knowsley Roader 7.9
Saint Helens 6.9
Los Lover 0.1 (but on his day 9.9)
Sambad5 7.6
Sanzar 8.0

Someone just shoot me............... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

ak47
13-12-05, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 07:44 PM
Ak47, your an 8.2
dont worry mate

I am working on my 3rd jump...the hardest of them all

include a pike tuck, nip, 3 qtr twist, and double back entry.

should get up to a 10 for ya.

Hey im in training ok http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

knowsleyroader
13-12-05, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Ride The Cliche@Dec 13 2005, 07:29 PM
It should be interesting to compare RC2006&#39;s gameplay with RL2.

Both were completed around the same time, both with much less resource then someone like HB studios, both dealing with the same key gameplay aspects (running with the ball, tackling, kicking, passing).
RC2006&#39;s gameplay shatters RL2&#39;s into tiny little pieces.

Really there is NO comparison.

RC&#39;s engine shines and does its job standing on its head. RL2&#39;s engine was already waiting to be subbed before it even got started.

Seriously wait until you see the offloads and interceptions on RC. You will **** at how realistic they are.

Cant wait to play that game again. Some will say the only drawback is the lack of custimisation, but if its a choice between Gameplay, Graphics or Customisation I know which one I would choose.

It aint much fun to customise a piece of **** as I found out recently...

kinkon89
13-12-05, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 05:44 PM
Yeah, I mean they both have had a similar level of pre-match hype on this forum. Both with that "This is a 9/10 game" sort of slant to it.

I feel from what I have heard Rugby League 2 is more like a 6.5/10 and significantly less good than we heard, although still somewhat playable.

I predict that Rugby Challenge 2006 will end up not being as good as what we have heard either, although the reviews so far sound so incredibly detailed and positive, I think it&#39;s fall from grace will be limited to it being about a 8.0/10.

I can&#39;t help it, I&#39;m addicted to judging everything out of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ak47, your an 8.2
esoj your a 6.9
Ceejay your a 8.6
Locksley your a 9.2
Ride The Cliche 7.4
Jacko 4.9
Kaftka 9.8
Kinkon 89 8.9
Knowsley Roader 7.9
Saint Helens 6.9
Los Lover 0.1 (but on his day 9.9)
Sambad5 7.6
Sanzar 8.0

Someone just shoot me............... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif
im 8.9!?!?!

wats wrong with 9.0!?!?! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

well i&#39;ll rate you a 0.1!!!!

Parore
13-12-05, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader+Dec 13 2005, 09:57 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knowsleyroader @ Dec 13 2005, 09:57 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Ride The Cliche@Dec 13 2005, 07:29 PM
It should be interesting to compare RC2006&#39;s gameplay with RL2.

Both were completed around the same time, both with much less resource then someone like HB studios, both dealing with the same key gameplay aspects (running with the ball, tackling, kicking, passing).
RC2006&#39;s gameplay shatters RL2&#39;s into tiny little pieces.

Really there is NO comparison.

RC&#39;s engine shines and does its job standing on its head. RL2&#39;s engine was already waiting to be subbed before it even got started.

Seriously wait until you see the offloads and interceptions on RC. You will **** at how realistic they are.

Cant wait to play that game again. Some will say the only drawback is the lack of custimisation, but if its a choice between Gameplay, Graphics or Customisation I know which one I would choose.

It aint much fun to customise a piece of **** as I found out recently... [/b]
I dont know if its any worth reading your comments anymore. You do so much sucking up its not funny.

knowsleyroader
13-12-05, 10:11 AM
ROFL ok.

I think most who know me on here know I certainly dont suck up to anyone. It happens to be my opinion. Have you played RC2006 ?

Believe it or not I happen to be a big rugby league fan and nothing would have given me greater pleasure than to have seen RL2 knock seven shades out of RC2006. Sadly this very much isnt the case.

Feel free to ignore my posts from now on. I will certainly ignore yours.

C A Iversen
13-12-05, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by kinkon89+Dec 13 2005, 09:17 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kinkon89 @ Dec 13 2005, 09:17 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 05:44 PM
Yeah, I mean they both have had a similar level of pre-match hype on this forum. Both with that "This is a 9/10 game" sort of slant to it.

I feel from what I have heard Rugby League 2 is more like a 6.5/10 and significantly less good than we heard, although still somewhat playable.

I predict that Rugby Challenge 2006 will end up not being as good as what we have heard either, although the reviews so far sound so incredibly detailed and positive, I think it&#39;s fall from grace will be limited to it being about a 8.0/10.

I can&#39;t help it, I&#39;m addicted to judging everything out of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ak47, your an 8.2
esoj your a 6.9
Ceejay your a 8.6
Locksley your a 9.2
Ride The Cliche 7.4
Jacko 4.9
Kaftka 9.8
Kinkon 89 8.9
Knowsley Roader 7.9
Saint Helens 6.9
Los Lover 0.1 (but on his day 9.9)
Sambad5 7.6
Sanzar 8.0

Someone just shoot me............... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif
im 8.9!?!?!

wats wrong with 9.0!?!?! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif

well i&#39;ll rate you a 0.1!!!! [/b]

But Kinkon, your very name is Kinkon 8.9!

Oh ****, no it&#39;s not.....9.0 it is!!!

CeeJay
13-12-05, 10:41 AM
Well, theres one thing I think RL2 and RL1 has on all the other rugby games, its that they are always difficult, you can never garuantee victory, in WRC and R2006, i just could not lose and therefore stopped playing. Now, RC2006 or Rugby 2006 may well crap allover RL2 but if Ive mastered in a week and cant even get a challenge out of it, whats the use? From what ive heard, RC2006 will be awome, but it needs to hav a difficulty level that can go the distance.

Knowlsleyroader, youve played it havent you? What do you think? did you speak with any of the swordfish guys about this?

knowsleyroader
13-12-05, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 13 2005, 10:41 PM
Well, theres one thing I think RL2 and RL1 has on all the other rugby games, its that they are always difficult, you can never garuantee victory, in WRC and R2006, i just could not lose and therefore stopped playing. Now, RC2006 or Rugby 2006 may well crap allover RL2 but if Ive mastered in a week and cant even get a challenge out of it, whats the use? From what ive heard, RC2006 will be awome, but it needs to hav a difficulty level that can go the distance.

Knowlsleyroader, youve played it havent you? What do you think? did you speak with any of the swordfish guys about this?
To be honest the difficulty level is probably one of the things that myself and lox cant really comment on as we only had a limited amount of time with the game. Obviously over time games get easier and we didnt play it enough that we got to the point where we could have found the difficulty was wanting.

However even during our short stint we did find that the game varied quite considerably in that one game you would whack the opposition and then you couldnt seem to do it next time around.

I think that is one of the very best if not the best point about RL1 is that you get a different challenge from game to game and you can always up the difficulty in such a way to challenge yourself even if it means adjusting stats.

I didnt find this with RL2 however and the AI had great difficulty scoring against me even with the poor defending control. It simply bored me was the fact where RL1 and I commented on this straight away is one of the most excisting sports games Ive played.

Dont know about anyone else but I always hold my breath while im sprinting for the line without even thinking about it http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

Paddy
13-12-05, 11:08 AM
talking about difficulty, i cant belive NO sport game has a &#39;random&#39; difficulty choice

this will be great as crap teams will have a easy difficulty and good teams have high, but then again the good teams will have a easy difficulty when their in a form slump etc etc

knowsleyroader
13-12-05, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Paddy@Dec 13 2005, 11:08 PM
talking about difficulty, i cant belive NO sport game has a &#39;random&#39; difficulty choice

this will be great as crap teams will have a easy difficulty and good teams have high, but then again the good teams will have a easy difficulty when their in a form slump etc etc
Each team should have a form rating that fluctuates depending on how the team are doing. It should then directly affect the stats of the players. This way it will likely affect everyone but the best players could still have a very good game against you and maybe pull the team through the slump and start things on the up.

esoj
13-12-05, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I&#39;m not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn&#39;t your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it&#39;s depth

rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn&#39;t pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.

knowsleyroader
13-12-05, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by esoj+Dec 14 2005, 12:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esoj @ Dec 14 2005, 12:02 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I&#39;m not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn&#39;t your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it&#39;s depth

rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn&#39;t pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out. [/b]
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.

Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?

My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.

The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.

Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.

Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.

I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys.

Ripper
13-12-05, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Parore+Dec 13 2005, 10:40 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Parore @ Dec 13 2005, 10:40 PM)</div>

Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 13 2005, 09:57 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Ride The Cliche@Dec 13 2005, 07:29 PM
It should be interesting to compare RC2006&#39;s gameplay with RL2.

Both were completed around the same time, both with much less resource then someone like HB studios, both dealing with the same key gameplay aspects (running with the ball, tackling, kicking, passing).
RC2006&#39;s gameplay shatters RL2&#39;s into tiny little pieces.

Really there is NO comparison.

RC&#39;s engine shines and does its job standing on its head. RL2&#39;s engine was already waiting to be subbed before it even got started.

Seriously wait until you see the offloads and interceptions on RC. You will **** at how realistic they are.

Cant wait to play that game again. Some will say the only drawback is the lack of custimisation, but if its a choice between Gameplay, Graphics or Customisation I know which one I would choose.

It aint much fun to customise a piece of **** as I found out recently...
I dont know if its any worth reading your comments anymore. You do so much sucking up its not funny. [/b]
Who the hell are you?

Whats the bet your one of those on the SIDHE riding Mario&#39;s jock all day.

esoj
13-12-05, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader+Dec 14 2005, 05:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knowsleyroader @ Dec 14 2005, 05:18 AM)</div>

Originally posted by esoj@Dec 14 2005, 12:02 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I&#39;m not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn&#39;t your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it&#39;s depth

rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn&#39;t pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.

Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?

My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.

The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.

Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.

Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.

I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys. [/b]
you seem to talk rc2006 up a lot but maybe thats just me. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on rl 2 as I like it more than the first one but you disagree and prefer the arcade style of the first 1. rl 2 does have bugs for sure but I know rugby 2005 has a lot more and has a crap franchise system in comparision to rl 2. I do hope rc2006 lives up to the mark you Locksley and SHRLFC have set for it otherwise the fall could be worse than that of rl 2. rugby 2006 i really don&#39;t hold much hope for but hopefully the rumoured demo comes out before release and that maybe due to the competition of swordfish and sidhe they rasie their game

CeeJay
14-12-05, 12:50 AM
Ha Ha, esoj, there is no way that rugby 2005 has more bugs than RL2! I dont think any other modern sports game would. If we made lists of the bugs from both games im sure RL2 would be well ahead. I think RL2 is better than rugby 2005, but not in the bug department.

Knowlseyroader, how long did you play RL2 for , and what difficulty did u get up to?

I think RL2 is better than RL1 in the end, its just very sad that alot of what made RL1 popular is gone, and RL2 is so much more frustrating than RL1. I find myself so often staring at he screen shaking my head and saying things like, unbelievable, ridiculous, and bulls**t! but then when somehting good happens, im up and out of my chair, saying come and hav a look at this try! so its both good and bad.

esoj
14-12-05, 01:04 AM
come on rugby 2005 was utter crap but was an improvement from rugby 2004 which was just crap. rugby league 2 has gone a long way further forward than rugby 2005 did in the rugby gaming genre. rugby league 2 has some bugs but I think rugby 2005 has more and the game is impossible to play comapred to rl 2 which is very playable despite the bugs

CeeJay
14-12-05, 01:08 AM
Youre right rugby 2005 was crap, and RL2 is way more playable, but rugby 2005 suxed because it just didnt play enough like rugby, not so much because of bugs. I also agree that RL2 is quite playable even with all the bugs, but the bug count still goes to RL2 hands down!

Dont make me make a list!!

esoj
14-12-05, 01:14 AM
I don&#39;t know i think it would be pretty close in the bug count. rugby 2005 did have quite a lot. but it&#39;s not worth going there as opinions will be different on to what is a bug in both games and what is simply game design error.

CeeJay
14-12-05, 01:22 AM
I think a bug is anything thats not supposed to happen, so for eg, the bad side steps and stuff in rugby 2005 arnet bugs, thats just how they were made (and badly) players performin the fend animation when there is no one to fend is a bug, as im sure it was never intended to happen. Thats wat i think, wat about you?

esoj
14-12-05, 01:44 AM
bug is something that happens that shouldn&#39;t happen at all or something that functions correctly functions incorrectly. but it&#39;s is pointless anyway as your opinion on rl 2 will always be different from mine anyway. so I think ulitmately we will end up going no where.

Parore
14-12-05, 03:34 AM
RL1 now that was a huge bug. Remember the Demo they put out for RL1 in 2002? Now that was really bad.

Sidhe have moved on from that and have developed something that can compete with EA Sports and better their games. I do not like Sidhe and how they approach making games with their delays and selecting cheerleaders to test their games but they are the only ones thats saw a market for Rugby League and on top of that made a game thats really enjoyable to play. RL2 for me is 70% near perfection.

All games have bugs and little things that need to be improved and thats why none of them get 10/10 in reviews from places like gamespot. I never once read a post by Mario or his cheerleaders about "How good the game was" and I think its silly if you fell into that trap thinking this is the "Game that ends all games" like they said RL1 would. And thats where the problem of your higher expectations come from and you should trust your instincts and block out everyone elses opinions until you play the game yourself.

CeeJay
14-12-05, 04:02 AM
Our opinions arent that different, mines just a little harsher than yours.

Well, that demo relase was so bad, It could hav cost them all their sales, but, we were all happy to see that RL1 had improved from that significantly.

esoj
14-12-05, 05:22 AM
yeah perhaps and very true that demo releasee before rl 1 was bit of a shocker.

esoj
14-12-05, 05:23 AM
yeah perhaps and very true that demo releasee before rl 1 was bit of a shocker. rl 2 is lightyear ahead of that demo. hopefully rl 3 will be even better and a mixture of the good from rl 2 the features franchise and the good part of rl 1 the player control.

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by esoj+Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esoj @ Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM)</div>

Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 14 2005, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by esoj@Dec 14 2005, 12:02 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I&#39;m not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn&#39;t your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it&#39;s depth

rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn&#39;t pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.

Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?

My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.

The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.

Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.

Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.

I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys.
you seem to talk rc2006 up a lot but maybe thats just me. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on rl 2 as I like it more than the first one but you disagree and prefer the arcade style of the first 1. rl 2 does have bugs for sure but I know rugby 2005 has a lot more and has a crap franchise system in comparision to rl 2. I do hope rc2006 lives up to the mark you Locksley and SHRLFC have set for it otherwise the fall could be worse than that of rl 2. rugby 2006 i really don&#39;t hold much hope for but hopefully the rumoured demo comes out before release and that maybe due to the competition of swordfish and sidhe they rasie their game [/b]
As ive said before, its not that I would prefer an arcade RL game to a simulation. I wouldnt. Its just the fact that In this case I think RL1 offers more challenge and control in gameplay than RL2 so at this point im stuck with more aracadey gameplay.

If there is one thing I wont tolerate in a rugby game its lack of control, it sort of defeats the object for me. Thats probably why I have such a big problem with RL2.

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 12:50 PM
Ha Ha, esoj, there is no way that rugby 2005 has more bugs than RL2! I dont think any other modern sports game would. If we made lists of the bugs from both games im sure RL2 would be well ahead. I think RL2 is better than rugby 2005, but not in the bug department.

Knowlseyroader, how long did you play RL2 for , and what difficulty did u get up to?

I think RL2 is better than RL1 in the end, its just very sad that alot of what made RL1 popular is gone, and RL2 is so much more frustrating than RL1. I find myself so often staring at he screen shaking my head and saying things like, unbelievable, ridiculous, and bulls**t! but then when somehting good happens, im up and out of my chair, saying come and hav a look at this try! so its both good and bad.
I had a good play on RL2 and kept coming back one last time to see if there was just something I was missing but my final conclusion was I wasnt missing anything at all. Least of all gameplay.

I tried levels from Reserve up to legend but found the offloading by the ai in legend made it less like rugby than ever. I then tried turning offloads off on legend and upping the break tackle stats, but no matter what I did I always found myself coming back to the lack of control over my players especially in defence when you notice it more.

If you dont have control of your players, what do you have ?

I think the fact I still play RL1 shows I can forgive bugs and see past certain flaws, but I just couldnt do this with RL2 it was just a bridge too far for me. The fact that the franchise seems to have been ruined by frequency and severity of injury certainly didnt help matters. Far too many knock ons which for some reason can only be turned off and not reduced.

The fact the sliders affect both the Ai and human player means they pretty much cancel each other out. They really need to look at some of their staff and hire some proper testers.

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by esoj+Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esoj @ Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM)</div>

Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 14 2005, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by esoj@Dec 14 2005, 12:02 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I&#39;m not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn&#39;t your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it&#39;s depth

rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn&#39;t pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.

Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?

My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.

The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.

Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.

Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.

I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys.
you seem to talk rc2006 up a lot but maybe thats just me. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on rl 2 as I like it more than the first one but you disagree and prefer the arcade style of the first 1. rl 2 does have bugs for sure but I know rugby 2005 has a lot more and has a crap franchise system in comparision to rl 2. I do hope rc2006 lives up to the mark you Locksley and SHRLFC have set for it otherwise the fall could be worse than that of rl 2. rugby 2006 i really don&#39;t hold much hope for but hopefully the rumoured demo comes out before release and that maybe due to the competition of swordfish and sidhe they rasie their game [/b]
Maybe I do talk up RC2006 because I really liked the game and everyone is aware that its only my opinion. They should also be aware that we didnt get to spend extended time with the game so it is only a limited opinion.

However what I can tell you is you can pick up RC2006 and start having fun immidiately.

Will it last the distance ? Even I dont know that as I didnt really get good enough to challenge the AI, but I could only forsee possibly one major gripe and that is if it became too easy after extended play.

sanzar
14-12-05, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader+Dec 14 2005, 07:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knowsleyroader @ Dec 14 2005, 07:38 PM)</div>

Originally posted by esoj@Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 14 2005, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by esoj@Dec 14 2005, 12:02 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-C A Iversen@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I&#39;m not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.

http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn&#39;t your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it&#39;s depth

rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn&#39;t pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.

Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?

My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.

The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.

Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.

Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.

I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys.
you seem to talk rc2006 up a lot but maybe thats just me. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on rl 2 as I like it more than the first one but you disagree and prefer the arcade style of the first 1. rl 2 does have bugs for sure but I know rugby 2005 has a lot more and has a crap franchise system in comparision to rl 2. I do hope rc2006 lives up to the mark you Locksley and SHRLFC have set for it otherwise the fall could be worse than that of rl 2. rugby 2006 i really don&#39;t hold much hope for but hopefully the rumoured demo comes out before release and that maybe due to the competition of swordfish and sidhe they rasie their game
Maybe I do talk up RC2006 because I really liked the game and everyone is aware that its only my opinion. They should also be aware that we didnt get to spend extended time with the game so it is only a limited opinion.

However what I can tell you is you can pick up RC2006 and start having fun immidiately.

Will it last the distance ? Even I dont know that as I didnt really get good enough to challenge the AI, but I could only forsee possibly one major gripe and that is if it became too easy after extended play. [/b]
I have confidence that Rugby Challenge will be a great game, because as much as I disliked WCR, it was clear that there only needed to be a few changes to make it a classic! But I do hope that there is more to learn with play after 5 mins.
But untill then I&#39;ll be more than content with Rugby League 2, and not because I&#39;m ignoring bugs or anything, but because I personally think it is a fabulous game.

C A Iversen
14-12-05, 09:57 AM
Knowsleyroader, I understand you hate the lack of control on the game. It&#39;s my number one rugby gameplay demand too. I mean, if you can&#39;t have control over the play, then how can you feel like You are the games deciding factor?

I just think everyone has grasped that aspect of your opinion by now? Not at all trying to be a smart arse, just please, look back a bit you&#39;ve covered this ground well.

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by C A Iversen@Dec 14 2005, 09:57 PM
Knowsleyroader, I understand you hate the lack of control on the game. It&#39;s my number one rugby gameplay demand too. I mean, if you can&#39;t have control over the play, then how can you feel like You are the games deciding factor?

I just think everyone has grasped that aspect of your opinion by now? Not at all trying to be a smart arse, just please, look back a bit you&#39;ve covered this ground well.
I basically covered it again because someone couldnt understand why I liked RL1 more than RL2. I thus explained why. Point taken though.

CeeJay
14-12-05, 10:48 AM
Well I jsut finished the first year of my franchise, I finished the regualr season in 4th position, and my overall season record was 18 wins and 8 losses. I won city country, I won the anzac test, I lost the state of origin 2-1, and I was knocked out by pentrith in the quarter finals of the nrl. The game was an absolute b**ch I was up by 2 points with 20 seconds left, and I head highed a guy on my own ten in front of the posts, instead of kicking the goal they tapped with 8 seconds left passed to preston campebell who ran sraight through a mysterious gap and scored, the rest is history. Oh well, theres always nxt season, and ive still got the tri series.

Afer much thought my final rating on this game is a 7/10. it has alot wrong with it, but i cant wait to start next season, Ive signed Utai and Meli will be coming off injury, ooohhh the tries im gonna score with those two!

In my franchise, when injuries start getting out of control, I will just reload it and the injuries are random so it solves the problem. I havent acually done this yet but I will if i get heaps and it threatens my job, honestly who gets fired for having too many injuries?

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 10:48 PM
Well I jsut finished the first year of my franchise, I finished the regualr season in 4th position, and my overall season record was 18 wins and 8 losses. I won city country, I won the anzac test, I lost the state of origin 2-1, and I was knocked out by pentrith in the quarter finals of the nrl. The game was an absolute b**ch I was up by 2 points with 20 seconds left, and I head highed a guy on my own ten in front of the posts, instead of kicking the goal they tapped with 8 seconds left passed to preston campebell who ran sraight through a mysterious gap and scored, the rest is history. Oh well, theres always nxt season, and ive still got the tri series.

Afer much thought my final rating on this game is a 7/10. it has alot wrong with it, but i cant wait to start next season, Ive signed Utai and Meli will be coming off injury, ooohhh the tries im gonna score with those two!

In my franchise, when injuries start getting out of control, I will just reload it and the injuries are random so it solves the problem. I havent acually done this yet but I will if i get heaps and it threatens my job, honestly who gets fired for having too many injuries?
Maybe someone can tweak the frequency and severity of injuries ? Or maybe it will get to the point where they are just as well turned off ?

CeeJay
14-12-05, 10:58 AM
yeah I think woosah is looking through the files fo stuff like that. Hav you still got RL2, or hav you sold it?

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 10:58 PM
yeah I think woosah is looking through the files fo stuff like that. Hav you still got RL2, or hav you sold it?
Sold my copy, although Lox has popped round once or twice and made me play it http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

CeeJay
14-12-05, 11:16 AM
lol I know you are set in your ways, but I cant blame locks, if you just kept playing for a bit longer, give til the end of you first year of franchise, oh well too late now i guess.

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 11:16 PM
lol I know you are set in your ways, but I cant blame locks, if you just kept playing for a bit longer, give til the end of you first year of franchise, oh well too late now i guess.
I really did try to like it, although I really dont think you should have to try to like a game.

You either do or you dont.

CeeJay
14-12-05, 11:44 AM
Well you shouldnt hav to try, but it this case you do, I tried, and must admit i am still trying, and so far its eems to be working! Ive had to try to like pretty much every rugby game thats been released so i guess im used to it.

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 11:44 PM
Well you shouldnt hav to try, but it this case you do, I tried, and must admit i am still trying, and so far its eems to be working! Ive had to try to like pretty much every rugby game thats been released so i guess im used to it.
I can think of quite a few Rugby games that I just picked up and played without even thinking about trying to like it.

World Class Rugby - spectrum
Lomu
ARL 96 - megadrive
IRL - pc
Rugby 2001 - PC
RL1 - Xbox
R2005 - Xbox was a mixed bag. At first I thought it was absolutely amazing and then the problems kicked in but I still have a dabble once in a while.

Alright you woudnt go back to some of them now maybe but from me getting hold of them I really just got straight into them.

TheBokke
14-12-05, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 10:48 PM
In my franchise, when injuries start getting out of control, I will just reload it and the injuries are random so it solves the problem. I havent acually done this yet but I will if i get heaps and it threatens my job, honestly who gets fired for having too many injuries?
Ask Eddie Jones http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

esoj
14-12-05, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader+Dec 14 2005, 11:51 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knowsleyroader @ Dec 14 2005, 11:51 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 10:48 PM
Well I jsut finished the first year of my franchise, I finished the regualr season in 4th position, and my overall season record was 18 wins and 8 losses. I won city country, I won the anzac test, I lost the state of origin 2-1, and I was knocked out by pentrith in the quarter finals of the nrl. The game was an absolute b**ch I was up by 2 points with 20 seconds left, and I head highed a guy on my own ten in front of the posts, instead of kicking the goal they tapped with 8 seconds left passed to preston campebell who ran sraight through a mysterious gap and scored, the rest is history. Oh well, theres always nxt season, and ive still got the tri series.

Afer much thought my final rating on this game is a 7/10. it has alot wrong with it, but i cant wait to start* next season, Ive signed Utai and Meli will be coming off injury, ooohhh the tries im gonna score with those two!

In my franchise, when injuries start getting out of control, I will just reload it and the injuries are random so it solves the problem. I havent acually done this yet but I will if i get heaps and it threatens my job, honestly who gets fired for having too many injuries?
Maybe someone can tweak the frequency and severity of injuries ? Or maybe it will get to the point where they are just as well turned off ? [/b]
I must have a charmed run or something as i have had under 10 injuries and i am into my third yeah in franchise. the longest being out for 8 weeks. so this thing about injuries destroying franchise is a load of crap from my perspective. it&#39;s proabbly from people not altering traning or using their squad properly. if you buy smart i would say you should easily be able to get at least 20 players if not more. I currently have 21 but proabbly could have gotten 2 more if I didn&#39;t offer one or 2 players so much money. franchise is awesome and defintely worth getting the game for.

he player control is bad in some areas but not all the time. and the game is very playable to and that I don&#39;t have to try to like it which is what I found myself doing with rugby 2004 and 2005 due to the absoluetely shocking gameplay and numerous bugs.

r1 was extremely easy to score tries at will on even on the harder diffiiculties and only in a short space of time as well. rl 2 you can still win on the harder difficulty settings but generally the games are a lot closer and with the sliders you can make the game suit your needs to a degree. rl 1 was fun for the first season but then beating everyteam by 50 points on seasoned and aboved got boring really quickly. rl 2 is much more like real league and a joy to play.

knowsleyroader
14-12-05, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by esoj+Dec 15 2005, 12:46 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esoj @ Dec 15 2005, 12:46 AM)</div>

Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 14 2005, 11:51 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-CeeJay@Dec 14 2005, 10:48 PM
Well I jsut finished the first year of my franchise, I finished the regualr season in 4th position, and my overall season record was 18 wins and 8 losses. I won city country, I won the anzac test, I lost the state of origin 2-1, and I was knocked out by pentrith in the quarter finals of the nrl. The game was an absolute b**ch I was up by 2 points with 20 seconds left, and I head highed a guy on my own ten in front of the posts, instead of kicking the goal they tapped with 8 seconds left passed to preston campebell who ran sraight through a mysterious gap and scored, the rest is history. Oh well, theres always nxt season, and ive still got the tri series.

Afer much thought my final rating on this game is a 7/10. it has alot wrong with it, but i cant wait to start* next season, Ive signed Utai and Meli will be coming off injury, ooohhh the tries im gonna score with those two!

In my franchise, when injuries start getting out of control, I will just reload it and the injuries are random so it solves the problem. I havent acually done this yet but I will if i get heaps and it threatens my job, honestly who gets fired for having too many injuries?
Maybe someone can tweak the frequency and severity of injuries ? Or maybe it will get to the point where they are just as well turned off ?
I must have a charmed run or something as i have had under 10 injuries and i am into my third yeah in franchise. the longest being out for 8 weeks. so this thing about injuries destroying franchise is a load of crap from my perspective. it&#39;s proabbly from people not altering traning or using their squad properly. if you buy smart i would say you should easily be able to get at least 20 players if not more. I currently have 21 but proabbly could have gotten 2 more if I didn&#39;t offer one or 2 players so much money. franchise is awesome and defintely worth getting the game for.

he player control is bad in some areas but not all the time. and the game is very playable to and that I don&#39;t have to try to like it which is what I found myself doing with rugby 2004 and 2005 due to the absoluetely shocking gameplay and numerous bugs.

r1 was extremely easy to score tries at will on even on the harder diffiiculties and only in a short space of time as well. rl 2 you can still win on the harder difficulty settings but generally the games are a lot closer and with the sliders you can make the game suit your needs to a degree. rl 1 was fun for the first season but then beating everyteam by 50 points on seasoned and aboved got boring really quickly. rl 2 is much more like real league and a joy to play. [/b]
Numerous people have been fired for not being able to field a team due to injury so you must be charmed as its obviously happening elsewhere.

Alan
14-12-05, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by knowsleyroader@Dec 15 2005, 04:54 AM
Numerous people have been fired for not being able to field a team due to injury so you must be charmed as its obviously happening elsewhere.
Hire more players.

The temptation to buy the best ~20 players ever and leave it at that is strong. That&#39;s by design. Do so and risk forfeit.

Instead, try padding out your dream team with some rookies. Get some cheap players with cool names and train them up into the stars of tomorrow. Stuff like that.

CeeJay
14-12-05, 10:17 PM
I only hav one injury at the mo, I hav to say i havent had any unrealistic injury probs, I was just presuming I will hav in the future due to other peoples comments. the only problems ive had so far is not being able to sign guys when i hav enough money and am within the salary cap, yet it still says "this will put you over the salary cap"

CeeJay
14-12-05, 10:19 PM
Thats exactly wat i tried to do but it wont let me. There are dozens of crap free agents that you can sign to prevent problems, but it wont let me do it.

ak47
14-12-05, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Alan+Dec 15 2005, 10:16 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alan @ Dec 15 2005, 10:16 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-knowsleyroader@Dec 15 2005, 04:54 AM
Numerous people have been fired for not being able to field a team due to injury so you must be charmed as its obviously happening elsewhere.
Hire more players.

The temptation to buy the best ~20 players ever and leave it at that is strong. That&#39;s by design. Do so and risk forfeit.

Instead, try padding out your dream team with some rookies. Get some cheap players with cool names and train them up into the stars of tomorrow. Stuff like that. [/b]
Well after 2 full years on LEGEND

I get the Call from Vince McMahon

YOOOOOUUUUUUURRRR FIIIIIIIRRRRREEEEDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was fired coz i only had 5 players outside my bench, and got 6 injuries, forfeit 3 times and then the chop

I was gutted, coz i was nearing the end of the year, and could have just craped thru.

Back down to seasoned........i am finding legend too much in regards to AI passing...and i believe my take so far is that the higher the difficulty the higher u gotto play ur players, and the harder it is to sign players up, thus not only during gameplay was legend being a bitch, but also in the back-office, legend was taxing me huge dollars for Big Mal and Laurie Daley, and even after axing Chalk, Shif, smith, woolford and withers, i still could only muster up a roster of 22 players

Am now going to adjust sliders on seasoned to make the AI a little harder than default seasoned, coz i want to find the medium between legend and season, for the best challenge.

esoj
14-12-05, 11:40 PM
Yes knowsley some have but there are proabbly numerous others like me that can actually play the game and not get lots of injuries. and guess what you choose which players to buy and set the training schedule so it cannot be sidhes fault that the user decides to buy a superstar team or does not alter training if they are getting lots of injuries. but of course knowsley the game is crap and even the decisions the user makes in franchise must be the fault of sidhe and the game must be unrealistic

ak 47 i saw a tip on the sidhe forums that might be useful to you. try signing players to 3 year deals they will often sign for a lot less if you do it this way and don&#39;t sign players during origin week as their price is often a couple hundered grand more than normal. this guy that was doing this was playing on league god difficulty so it is possible to play franchise on a higher difficulty.

ak47
15-12-05, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by esoj@Dec 15 2005, 11:40 AM
this guy that was doing this was playing on league god difficulty so it is possible to play franchise on a higher difficulty.
yeah but i dont wanna have to be souped on coke/caffiene/pingas to play this

on league god, u gotto be clued in with ur eyes popping out, to match the AI&#39;s pace.

i like to relax and soak in the atmosphere, and play tactical - IN CONTROL - rugby league

i find on anything higher than seasoned, the AI&#39;s play is steroid fed, ectasy injected rugby league..its like NFL BLITZ, but only league.

Playing good teams they will pass up to 20 times per tackle left and right to move up the field......all of a sudden i look like i am watching tennis - head moving left and right, watching their passing.
my flatmate, looks like he is at wimbledon watching.........THAT AINT RUGBY LEAGUE

Sidhe have failed to deliver on the ai levels........the harder it is the faster they get, not smarter, they get dumber....example is how many times they pass in their own 20m...............in god mode............they will keep on passing, when in real life on ur own 20m, it should be one up stuff

i find winning on legend alot easier in the rain, coz they dont know the conditions and keep on playing on steroids........thus under rainy condition their extravagance is punished by the wet ball, thus they are DUMBER on higher difficulty, yet stronger, faster, and more optimistic, and risk taking.

sidhe thought the sliders would help...they do, but really, they arent sliders...not proper ones...they are just cop out ways to get around the dodgy way the gamer plays as per the programming..........ie the testers failed to do their job, and its us that have to make the changes after we have bought it...they arent proper gameplay sliders, when they both effect u and the ai....they are just PROGRAMMING ADJUSTMENTS.

I do love the game still, but i am furious that i got fired, hence i am lashing out today at its flaws!!!...yes i am a passionate league nut, like wayne bennet, i am firing at all directions, coz i cant cop losing. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

NZL Fan
15-12-05, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by ak47+Dec 15 2005, 12:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak47 @ Dec 15 2005, 12:48 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-esoj@Dec 15 2005, 11:40 AM
this guy that was doing this was playing on league god difficulty so it is possible to play franchise on a higher difficulty.
yeah but i dont wanna have to be souped on coke/caffiene/pingas to play this

on league god, u gotto be clued in with ur eyes popping out, to match the AI&#39;s pace.

i like to relax and soak in the atmosphere, and play tactical - IN CONTROL - rugby league

i find on anything higher than seasoned, the AI&#39;s play is steroid fed, ectasy injected rugby league..its like NFL BLITZ, but only league.

Playing good teams they will pass up to 20 times per tackle left and right to move up the field......all of a sudden i look like i am watching tennis - head moving left and right, watching their passing.
my flatmate, looks like he is at wimbledon watching.........THAT AINT RUGBY LEAGUE

Sidhe have failed to deliver on the ai levels........the harder it is the faster they get, not smarter, they get dumber....example is how many times they pass in their own 20m...............in god mode............they will keep on passing, when in real life on ur own 20m, it should be one up stuff

i find winning on legend alot easier in the rain, coz they dont know the conditions and keep on playing on steroids........thus under rainy condition their extravagance is punished by the wet ball, thus they are DUMBER on higher difficulty, yet stronger, faster, and more optimistic, and risk taking.

sidhe thought the sliders would help...they do, but really, they arent sliders...not proper ones...they are just cop out ways to get around the dodgy way the gamer plays as per the programming..........ie the testers failed to do their job, and its us that have to make the changes after we have bought it...they arent proper gameplay sliders, when they both effect u and the ai....they are just PROGRAMMING ADJUSTMENTS.

I do love the game still, but i am furious that i got fired, hence i am lashing out today at its flaws!!!...yes i am a passionate league nut, like wayne bennet, i am firing at all directions, coz i cant cop losing. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif [/b]
Im actually disliking the game more and more the longer I play it...................I was forced to chuck on PES5 after another "annoying" RL2 session, and the diference was such that I don&#39;t think I can go back to RL2.

(Before some of you say "you can&#39;t compare PES5 to RL2" etc etc, I can, it cost me less to buy, and is a sport I enjoy playing in video game mode like rugby).

The things that I initially turned a blind eye to in RL2 which are now doing my head in:

*Very poor AI. Higher levels are made more difficult by making you play against the Harlem globetrotters, or the computer gets a "leg up" by being able to offload in situations you can not. AK47 is right, the AI don&#39;t get smarter as they should.

*Gameplay has no variety. "roll up, roll up............score the same try over and over until you go dizzy, see how the computer can only score from close to your line, watch as you run from dummy half for easy meters and tries........"

Teams seem to be no different from each other, all games blend into one. You never feel you are playing the Broncos, Souths, Tigers because every bloody team plays exactly the same way! Players all seem grouped with a relatively similar skillset (regardless of their stats) hence forwards step like backs, backs run over players like forwards..........its ******** - more categories of individual abilities, and a bigger range of numbers (ie. rate abilities out of more then only 10) badly needed - the players in this game have no personality......

*Mentioned already but the player control is like maneuvering Kenworths at a busy truckstop. Knowsley is right, even RL1 didn&#39;t have this problem - so why has this "improved" version??

*Wingers running the ball out for no reason and standing outside the field of play waiting for a pass????? (a personal hate)

*whats with the breaks?? Where is the long range tries that gamers want?? This is a "game" (as pointed out by Alan on this forum) so why have the "fun" bits (like running in open play) been taken away??? The open style running was in RL1, and though it was far from perfect a little tweaking here and there (ie. so props couldn&#39;t run down wingers) would have resulted in a better end result. If one of the fastest guys in league can make a clean break on his own line then why shouldn&#39;t he be able to go the length of the field???

This looks like league (players we know and love, team colours, competitions etc etc) but it sure as hell don&#39;t play like rugby league. It is neither an arcade version of league, or a simulation - perhaps the developers need to stop sitting on the fence and decide what type of game of the two they are trying to produce??

PS. If anybody from SIDHE is reading: Who did the cutscenes, and has he/she ever watched a game of rugby before?? (I&#39;m sure its that blondie guy from "queer eye for the straight guy")...............and also do something about that dreadful in-game music!!

Paddy
15-12-05, 04:56 AM
you guys r right

the AI Is complete crap, theres no difference between playing the tigers and souths cos they play exactly the same game.

Star players have little or no impact at all, johns, lockyer, slater are no different to any other players.

Fullback in the game are useless, they dont even support you when u make the break cos their freakin 20m behind the team

when umake a clean break and u see support eithe left or right, dont even bother passing it to them cos they slow down like their walking when they recieve the ball

its total BS

C A Iversen
15-12-05, 05:09 AM
I can&#39;t help but think that Mario left this forum at a good time for himself.

Could he have known the quality of the goods he was delivering to us?

Now he doesn&#39;t have to answer any criticism, and can sit back on his own forum, kicking off anyone who has a problem with his product.

I haven&#39;t played it much yet, (have only hired) but impressions are that it&#39;s not quite the turd that some have said, but more of a lemon.

I think mediocre isn&#39;t a good match to the hype we heard from July till he buggered off. I know the mods want him back, but who&#39;s going to sweet talk him at the moment? Honestly?

The "disappearing over the horizon with tail between legs" look will be my last impressions of him on this site...

ak47
15-12-05, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by C A Iversen@Dec 15 2005, 05:09 PM
Now he doesn&#39;t have to answer any criticism, and can sit back on his own forum, kicking off anyone who has a problem with his product.


The "disappearing over the horizon with tail between legs" look will be my last impressions of him on this site...
hey iverson

wanan see mario at his best nowadays - whilst his wallet gets fatter

check this

http://forums.rugbyleague2.com/showthread.php?t=12600

i was absolutely disgusted when i saw this

when i have time i going to delibrately get banned, and give it right back at him......in their house.....not ours!!!

knowsleyroader
15-12-05, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by esoj@Dec 15 2005, 11:40 AM
Yes knowsley some have but there are proabbly numerous others like me that can actually play the game and not get lots of injuries. and guess what you choose which players to buy and set the training schedule so it cannot be sidhes fault that the user decides to buy a superstar team or does not alter training if they are getting lots of injuries. but of course knowsley the game is crap and even the decisions the user makes in franchise must be the fault of sidhe and the game must be unrealistic

ak 47 i saw a tip on the sidhe forums that might be useful to you. try signing players to 3 year deals they will often sign for a lot less if you do it this way and don&#39;t sign players during origin week as their price is often a couple hundered grand more than normal. this guy that was doing this was playing on league god difficulty so it is possible to play franchise on a higher difficulty.
Have I missed something ? Did I recently have a go at you for expressing your opinion ? Im really pretty sure that I didnt, yet you obviously have a problem with me expressing mine.

Your best bet is either a) stop reading my posts or b ) dont be so pathetic as to take someones opinion about a game to heart.

Jeez http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif

TheBokke
15-12-05, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by ak47+Dec 15 2005, 12:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak47 @ Dec 15 2005, 12:48 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-esoj@Dec 15 2005, 11:40 AM
this guy that was doing this was playing on league god difficulty so it is possible to play franchise on a higher difficulty.
yeah but i dont wanna have to be souped on coke/caffiene/pingas to play this

on league god, u gotto be clued in with ur eyes popping out, to match the AI&#39;s pace.

i like to relax and soak in the atmosphere, and play tactical - IN CONTROL - rugby league

i find on anything higher than seasoned, the AI&#39;s play is steroid fed, ectasy injected rugby league..its like NFL BLITZ, but only league.

Playing good teams they will pass up to 20 times per tackle left and right to move up the field......all of a sudden i look like i am watching tennis - head moving left and right, watching their passing.
my flatmate, looks like he is at wimbledon watching.........THAT AINT RUGBY LEAGUE

Sidhe have failed to deliver on the ai levels........the harder it is the faster they get, not smarter, they get dumber....example is how many times they pass in their own 20m...............in god mode............they will keep on passing, when in real life on ur own 20m, it should be one up stuff

i find winning on legend alot easier in the rain, coz they dont know the conditions and keep on playing on steroids........thus under rainy condition their extravagance is punished by the wet ball, thus they are DUMBER on higher difficulty, yet stronger, faster, and more optimistic, and risk taking.

sidhe thought the sliders would help...they do, but really, they arent sliders...not proper ones...they are just cop out ways to get around the dodgy way the gamer plays as per the programming..........ie the testers failed to do their job, and its us that have to make the changes after we have bought it...they arent proper gameplay sliders, when they both effect u and the ai....they are just PROGRAMMING ADJUSTMENTS.

I do love the game still, but i am furious that i got fired, hence i am lashing out today at its flaws!!!...yes i am a passionate league nut, like wayne bennet, i am firing at all directions, coz i cant cop losing. http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif [/b]
Nice one AK47 you had me giggling at this thread.