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TRF_Ezequiel
30-06-10, 08:49 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Top_14_Logo.png

The 2010-2011 Top 14 season is starting soon. This will be the first time I will be following the competition. My favourite player, Francois Steyn, moved to Racing Metro and because of that I will be supporting that team. It might not be the best reason to start supporting a team but what the hell...

The bonus point system is the same as other competitions:

* 4 points for a win.
* 2 points for a draw.
* 1 "bonus" point for winning while scoring at least 3 more tries than the opponent.
* 1 "bonus" point for losing by 7 points (or less).

As the name of the league might give away, there's 14 teams participating. These are the teams:

- Agen
- Bayonne
- Biaritz
- Bourgoin
- Brive
- Castres
- Clermont
- Montpellier
- Perpignan
- Racing Métro
- La Rochelle
- Stade Français
- Toulon
- Toulouse

Agen and La Rochelle won promotion last season from the D2 League and replace Montauban (financial problems) and Albi


Well, I hope there's some French rugby fans to discuss with here. I am planning to visit a Racing Metro match for the coming season. Would help to get some inside information :)

Seaton
30-06-10, 10:39 AM
Don't call yourself a supporter until you have actually been to a mtach, no one likes a glory hunter, do we ;)

TRF_Ezequiel
30-06-10, 10:58 AM
Haha. If I wanted to go for glory I would have chosen Toulouse :D

I will call myself a follower until I actually been to the stadium

They do have a wonderful stadium by the way! Historical... 1938 FIFA World Cup final, 1924 Olympic final... It will be really nice to go there.

DonBilly
30-06-10, 11:42 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Top_14_Logo.png

The 2010-2011 Top 14 season is starting soon. This will be the first time I will be following the competition. My favourite player, Francois Steyn, moved to Racing Metro and because of that I will be supporting that team. It might not be the best reason to start supporting a team but what the hell...

The bonus point system is the same as other competitions:

* 4 points for a win.
* 2 points for a draw.
* 1 "bonus" point for winning while scoring at least 3 more tries than the opponent.
* 1 "bonus" point for losing by 7 points (or less).

As the name of the league might give away, there's 14 teams participating. These are the teams:

- Agen
- Bayonne
- Biaritz
- Bourgoin
- Brive
- Castres
- Clermont
- Montpellier
- Perpignan
- Racing Métro
- La Rochelle
- Stade Français
- Toulon
- Toulouse

Agen and La Rochelle won promotion last season from the D2 League and replace Montauban (financial problems) and Albi


Well, I hope there's some French rugby fans to discuss with here. I am planning to visit a Racing Metro match for the coming season. Would help to get some inside information :)

You should try to come for next Paris Derby, i.e. Racing Métro versus Stade Français, which will be played at Stade de France.

TRF_Ezequiel
30-06-10, 11:58 AM
Ja, I could do that but I would also really like to visit the stadium in Colombes. Maybe I'll go to several matches ;)

Is there any news about a schedule already?

ikvat
30-06-10, 09:57 PM
Ja, I could do that but I would also really like to visit the stadium in Colombes. Maybe I'll go to several matches ;)

Is there any news about a schedule already?
No, not yet. It will be published in a few days.

DonBilly
01-07-10, 08:50 AM
No, not yet. It will be published in a few days.

It is available since this morning: http://www.lnr.fr/omm/upload/Calendrier%20des%20oppositions%20TOP%2014%20Orange %20-%20Saison%202010%202011.pdf

ORothlain
01-07-10, 10:16 AM
Paris was left off that list...
vive le Stade Francais...or something!

TRF_Ezequiel
01-07-10, 11:05 AM
Is Stade Francais the same as Paris in the schedule?

Charles
01-07-10, 01:03 PM
Stade Francais is Paris.

ikvat
01-07-10, 01:37 PM
It is available since this morning: http://www.lnr.fr/omm/upload/Calendrier%20des%20oppositions%20TOP%2014%20Orange %20-%20Saison%202010%202011.pdf
Many thanks. :cool:

yanir
11-07-10, 03:24 PM
This is my first time following as well. I will be at Perpignan for the opening on August 13 and will be rooting for Clermont Auvergne. I will attend as many games as possible, at least where Clermont plays in support of their club. Will you be here for the opening game?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Top_14_Logo.png

The 2010-2011 Top 14 season is starting soon. This will be the first time I will be following the competition. My favourite player, Francois Steyn, moved to Racing Metro and because of that I will be supporting that team. It might not be the best reason to start supporting a team but what the hell...

The bonus point system is the same as other competitions:

* 4 points for a win.
* 2 points for a draw.
* 1 "bonus" point for winning while scoring at least 3 more tries than the opponent.
* 1 "bonus" point for losing by 7 points (or less).

As the name of the league might give away, there's 14 teams participating. These are the teams:

- Agen
- Bayonne
- Biaritz
- Bourgoin
- Brive
- Castres
- Clermont
- Montpellier
- Perpignan
- Racing Métro
- La Rochelle
- Stade Français
- Toulon
- Toulouse

Agen and La Rochelle won promotion last season from the D2 League and replace Montauban (financial problems) and Albi


Well, I hope there's some French rugby fans to discuss with here. I am planning to visit a Racing Metro match for the coming season. Would help to get some inside information :)

cyRil
11-07-10, 10:46 PM
I went to the SF v Toulouse match in March at the Stade de France. Unbelievable experience, one of the best matches I've been to, unfortunately purely for the occasion. Toulouse whooped ass 0-29.
My second favourite stadium behind the Millennium.
Although they've been pwp recently I'll stick in with Stade. The gf got me the 3rd kit for my birthday as well so i can't just ditch them :p

Amobokoboko
26-07-10, 10:49 AM
I guess Toulon or Clermont will win the comp. Altho everything can happen.

tinchy17
26-07-10, 10:50 AM
The only French teams I've seen play to date are Castres and Toulon - so I think either of them could win the title

terrasblogger
26-07-10, 11:21 AM
I have voted other in the hope that Perpignan can make it 3 finals in a row and win this one.

Amobokoboko
26-07-10, 11:34 AM
Will be a good competition this year.

cyRil
26-07-10, 12:50 PM
I have voted other in the hope that Perpignan can make it 3 finals in a row and win this one.
...Perpignan are an option...

DonBilly
26-07-10, 01:09 PM
Biarritz and Stade Français can be added to this list.

Amobokoboko
26-07-10, 04:05 PM
Biarritz? I know they have a good team. But I would rate them top 5

TRF_Hulkster
26-07-10, 09:25 PM
...Perpignan are an option...

Toloun are also another ....

Amobokoboko
27-07-10, 07:07 AM
They have quite a strong squad.

DonBilly
27-07-10, 08:58 AM
There are more teams racing for the Brennus and it is a very tough and long competition. I'll be in Asia when the Championnat resumes but should be able to watch some games thanks to the Internet.

Amobokoboko
27-07-10, 09:32 AM
Same here, altho a trip across the border is something that keeps on popping up in mind.

terrasblogger
29-07-10, 08:47 AM
...Perpignan are an option...

Sorry !!! so they are ... newbie error.

Amobokoboko
29-07-10, 09:07 AM
Metro 92 is also a team that I see end up in the top 5 and may surprise us.

fcukernaut
08-08-10, 10:26 PM
I was looking into taking in a few games this year and I was wondering which stadiums/games would provide the best atmosphere? Also, which would be the most affordable option?

Charles
09-08-10, 08:45 AM
Atmosphere is good in all stadiums...Toulon and Perpignana are certainly the most crazy ones...

DonBilly
09-08-10, 02:37 PM
The LNR has released sooner today some data about Top14 financial aspects for the season that starts on next Friday. One interesting point is the budgets of the clubs:

Top 14 budgets:

1 Stade Toulousain : 29,53 M (+ 1,43 M )
2 Clermont : 20,89 M (+ 1,89 M )
3 Stade Français : 19,28 M (- 1,72 M )
4 Toulon : 19,05 M (+ 2,05 M )
5 Racing-Métro 92 : 18,94 M (+ 3,04 M )
6 Bayonne : 15,75 M (+ 3, 95 M )
7 Biarritz : 15,39 M (+ 0,99 M )
8 Montpellier : 15,01 M (+ 1,87 M )
9 Perpignan : 14,08 M (+ 1,69 M )
10 Brive : 14,05 M (- 1,95 M )
11 Castres : 13,94 M (+ 1,54 M )
12 Bourgoin : 10,58 M (+ 0,38 M )
13 Agen : 9,81 M (+ 3,11 M )
14 La Rochelle : 8,31 M (+ 2,51 M )

Most of the clubs have increased their budget bar Brive and Paris.

Next season a salary cap applies in addition to the existing rules, this cap is set to 8 M€. Another new rule is that at least 40% of the players of each club have to have gone through the French Rugby academies.

cyRil
09-08-10, 06:50 PM
Does this mean that there is going to be major poaching from everyone outside the T14?

Amobokoboko
11-08-10, 05:58 AM
Just like in soccer, really thrilled to see the games next week.

Charles
11-08-10, 10:17 AM
Does this mean that there is going to be major poaching from everyone outside the T14?

Probably not, because nobody can pay as much as the French. Average foreign players will be got rid of though, and end up abroad.

Which is almost the same, I know...

Melhor Time
17-08-10, 01:18 AM
Odd to see a poll on who will win without Biarritz and Stade Français as options.

Both did well on the weekend. SF should really be back to their best this season. Aside from the unreliable Lionel Beauxis they have a very strong list of players in all other positions. They have the problem of having an over supply of elite back-rowers. I wonder if they will figure out how to use them or not. Last season they were not used correctly.

Amobokoboko
17-08-10, 11:20 AM
Stade de France to end in the top 5. Biarritz, well it depends on how their next games will turn out. Really excited about their season

TRF_Ezequiel
07-09-10, 05:21 AM
Maybe an idea to make this a sticky topic and 'un-sticky' the 2009-2010 topic? I have watched some games of this season including the matches Racing Metro played against Toulon and Clermont and I have to say I am very pleased with the performance so far. Haven't seen a lot of Juan Martin Hernandez and Francois Steyn yet but that is still to come. The win against Clermont was a very nice one to watch.

Losing to Castres over the weekend was a bit disappointing after the 2 wins over the clubs mentioned earleir.

I have to say that, this being my first experience with NH club-rugby I am positively surprised. Love the whole vibe around it. I also noticed now that Chabal is more talk than play. He looks like a real menace but as a player he's not as good as I expected after hearing all those stories about him.

Amobokoboko
07-09-10, 09:07 AM
The level of rugby is really high in France due to the amount of money being invested in the sport.
It's a good thing, that's why the French are doing so well in rugby.
Missed this weekend as I was out, but I'm really looking froward to this week.

TRF_Ezequiel
07-09-10, 10:57 AM
This weekend is round 6 which features the following clashes:

Bayonne - Clermont
Montpellier - Castres
Perpignan - Bourgoin
Racing Métro - La Rochelle
Stade Français - Brive
Toulon - Agen
Biarritz - Toulouse

Bayonne, the surprising leaders after 5 matches take on the defending champions Clermont. A very interesting match to watch. Montpellier and Castres are also in the top 6 and meet eachother. Racing Metro is only playing it's second match at home since the start of the season but they have won 3 matches nonetheless. Very entertaining match against La Rochelle which will hopefully bring another 3 points. Toulon is still looking for their first win at home. Amazingly losing to Bayonne in the season opener and in round 3 against the Albi-celestes of Racing Metro. Finally Biarritz and Toulouse will try to win a second match in a row.

Amobokoboko
08-09-10, 06:17 AM
As I said, it will be a really good rugby weekend.

M Two One
09-09-10, 05:45 AM
Odd to see a poll on who will win without Biarritz and Stade Français as options.

I was thinking the same when I opened this thread. It may just be a poll, but you should never count out two of the powerhouse clubs in France. With Stade not competing for the H-Cup this season, they should be able to concentrate on picking up another Brennus. I honestly don't think they have the quality to finish in the top four, but I bet they won't finish outside of the top six this time out.

Biarritz has been up in the air for a few seasons now. It seemed at some point that the powerhouse team they assembled was starting to their lose steam, but last season some people believed that they were back thanks to their showing into the H-Cup final. As a BO supporter myself I haven't been impressed with the team for some time now. They need to concentrate on the domestic league this season. I don't think they have a difficult group in the H-Cup, but unless things fall in their favor I don't want to see so many important players being rested for big matches in France. The competition in the Top 14 is rising rapidly and if they don't play things right they may lose out on the H-Cup next season. They have the quality to win the Brennus, so get it right!

Toulouse always look good, but they seem to be more interested in Europe these years than racking up another Brennus. With the talent in the league right now, I think that they could drop out of a top four spot during a tight race down the stretch. Perpignan seem to be struggling a bit early on, but they should return to form soon enough. Clermont finally broke their duck and won the Brennus. At some point I thought that they would be damned to losing in every final they compete in before investors just say, "****, this team just can't get it done!" They should be a top pick to repeat. I'm loving their new Under Armour kits.

Castres were a big surprise last season, even for me. They lost their captain to Racing Métro before the season started and still managed to sit on top of the league for some time. At first I thought this would be a fluke and they would drop rapidly down the table, but they never did. Do I think they will finish strong this season? I think they could go one better. Toulon look good on paper, but I think this season will see them struggle a bit. I don't think there will be a relegation scare by any means, but I haven't been impressed.

I won't cover every team here, but I do want to touch on Bayonne and Montpellier before I get into the relegation candidates. Last season was really an odd one for Bayonne. They finished the season second to last and yet still scored more points than they allowed. I think this hit home hard with the owners and staff because the club did some serious cleaning over the Summer. I think they let go at least 15 players and brought in nearly as many. Some of these were youth players we won't see for some time, but from what I've heard the future looks good for this club.

As for Montpellier, I've had them as relegation candidates every season for as long as I can remember. I do not have them there this season. They played pretty well so far in France this season, but I don't think this should be all too much of a surprise. Last season they shown signs of significant improvement despite their showing in Europe and some disastrous matches in France. They haven't been as up and down so drastically as in previous seasons. I think a mid-table finish is possible.

La Rochelle has finally made it to the Top 14! Every season I've watched this team make the Pro D2 playoff and fall out despite their successes during the regular season. Last season it looked as though they may not even make it to the playoff, but they finished strong and got it done. They will have to put it all on the line, but they took so long to get here that I don't think they'll be going back down so easily.

My candidates for relegation are the current bottom two Agen and Bourgoin-Jallieu. That seems a bit simple, but Agen just released their only superstar and I think the fantastic young centre Benjamin Petre will not be prepared to lift his club just yet. Keep an eye on him though. As for Bourgoin-Jallieu, well, they have been floating around the drain for a few seasons now. I expected them to go down last season along with Albi and yet they managed to stay afloat over clubs like Bayonne, which is ridiculous, as well as Montauban who were relegated to Fédérale 1 for financial problems. With all of the incredible talent they've lost over the years it is incredible that the tiny club from Isère has managed to stay up. What's more concerning is that the club is still relying on old bones to keep the pillars up.

Here are my predictions:

Top 14
01. Clermont (champions)
02. Biarritz
03. Castres
04. Toulouse
05. Perpignan
06. Stade Français
07. Racing Métro
08. Toulon
09. Bayonne
10. Montpellier
11. Brive
12. La Rochelle
13. Agen
14. Bourgoin-Jallieu

Amobokoboko
10-09-10, 04:47 PM
Althou Clermont is in the top 3 for the moment, I doubt that they could win the title again this year, as it took them some time to win it last year.
Ideally one of the smaller teams should win it.

Amobokoboko
10-09-10, 07:21 PM
Expected more from the Aviron Bayonnais v ASM Clermont game. So far only penalties.

M Two One
12-09-10, 06:49 PM
A good weekend of rugby from the Top 14 with several big wins.

Bayonne remain on top after a 18-16 win over defending champions Clermont in a boring kicking match on Friday. Napolioni Nalaga scored the only try of the match, but it wasn't enough to lift Clermont over the Basque club.

Montpellier continue to improve as they had no trouble taking down Castres. Tries from Geoffrey Doumayrou and Mamuka Gorgodze kept the match exciting as Montpellier kept Castres to four penalty kicks. Two conversions and two penalty kicks by winger Martin Bustos helped the club keep their distance with a final score of 23-12.

A distraught and dramatic Agen side faced a Toulon side looking to pick themselves up after a disappointing start to their campaign. Jonny Wilkinson contributed two tries, four conversions and a penalty kick in this match. Unsurprisingly, Toulon went on to win by 31 points, 41-10. Three tries by three separate players brought the total to five for Toulon and earned the club a bonus point. Agen will have to rethink their tactics after this one. I suggest playing Benjamin Petre next round.

Perpignan are back to their winning ways after defeating last place Bourgoin-Jallieu. There were two yellow cards in this match and for the most part it wasn't a pretty one to watch. Two tries from Farid Sid and one from Alexandre Dumoulin were the only exciting moments during this match. One of my favorite players, Jérôme Porical, kicked five penalties to lift his club by seven points; 27-20 the final score.

One of the biggest highlights of the weekend was the team effort by Racing-Métro in their 43-18 win over newcomers La Rochelle. A red card decided La Rochelle's fate in the end, but some excellent play from the Parisian club's bench made this one exciting as they scored three tries. Former Biarritz winger Sireli Bobo continues to impress as he scored a try in this one. I'll never forget the two amazing tries he scored against Border Reivers during the late Scottish Club's H-Cup visit to the Basque Country.

The most exciting match of the weekend was between Stade Français and Brive. This one was close and should not be missed. If you haven't seen it, try to find it online. Five tries were scored between the two clubs and despite Stade scoring one more, Brive managed to pull out the upset by two points with a final score of 27-29. Considering the Brive's history and their nice looking team on paper you wouldn't think this should be much of an upset, but their recent history and near drops to the second division has stained their reputation considerably. For Stade, it looks like their alterations over the Summer are still clicking just yet.

The last match of the weekend was between Biarritz and Toulouse, a rematch of sorts of the H-Cup final last season. There were three tries, one of which was scored by Biarritz's prop Eduard Coetzee and another by Toulouse's hooker William Servat. Dimitri Yachvili continues to prove why he's the best at his position in France by kicking his club to victory with six penalties and a conversion over the defending European champions with a final score of 25-20. Takudzwa Ngwenya was disappointing, as was Yannick Jauzion. Fullback Maxime Médard also scored a try in this match for Toulouse, but it wasn't enough.

TRF_Hulkster
12-09-10, 09:07 PM
Great summary there M Two One!

Amobokoboko
16-09-10, 05:33 PM
Already looking forward to tomorrow.

Amobokoboko
18-09-10, 04:06 PM
Once more a mediocre game by Clermont, giving away too many penalties.
they will not win the title this year.

M Two One
18-09-10, 09:14 PM
Too early into the season to write anyone off.

Amobokoboko
19-09-10, 05:47 AM
Can be, but of the 7 games they played I saw 5 of them and every game they give away stupid penalties.
The team has (bought) plenty of talented players but they should keep their chill and try to avoid giving away free points.
Hopefully they will be spared of injuries.

Charles
20-09-10, 02:17 PM
My home team Montpellier is doing great with 5 wins out of 7 games, and a bonus point victory away in Agen this WE. Great players and great tries.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28LD85BG_xQ&feature=player_embedded

Amobokoboko
20-09-10, 03:41 PM
Indeed, I saw the game this weekend and I really enjoyed it.

TRF_Ezequiel
20-09-10, 04:28 PM
Racing Metro won another match. It's a nice season so far!

M Two One
22-09-10, 01:13 AM
I didn't get to watch anything this weekend. Does anyone have a site where I can view matches easily? I always seem to have issues with what I'm using.

Charles
22-09-10, 02:21 AM
M Two One if you speak french you can check this site

liverugby.lacave-online.com/. They have links and everything.

TRF_Ezequiel
22-09-10, 05:01 AM
Which matches are you looking for? Maybe I can help you.

M Two One
22-09-10, 09:03 PM
Thanks Charles, I'll check out that site.

I'm really looking for anything to watch at any time, from lower leagues to Top 14.

DonBilly
24-09-10, 01:06 AM
This week-end games are

Bayonne / Perpignan 25/09/2010 - 16h25
Racing Métro 92 / Biarritz 25/09/2010 - 14h30
Brive / Toulouse 25/09/2010 - 14h30
Montpellier / La Rochelle 25/09/2010 - 20h45
Bourgoin / Toulon 24/09/2010 - 20h45
Agen / Stade Français 25/09/2010 - 14h30
Clermont / Castres 25/09/2010 - 14h30

Montpellier/ La Rochelle should be a cracker. Two teams playing running Rugby.

Brive/Toulouse, Bayonne/Perpignan and Racing/Biarritz are the others big games.

Mr.cyclopede
24-09-10, 08:08 PM
Thanks Charles, I'll check out that site.


Didn't know it either, excellent site wich give every championship day live links !

Thanks you Prince Charles

TRF_Ezequiel
29-09-10, 05:54 AM
Racing Metro is performing great so far. Most points scored of all teams so far, top of the log. Hope they can actually manage to impress in the Heineken Cup this season

M Two One
18-10-10, 06:46 PM
Montpellier have turned this league upside down.

M Two One
25-08-11, 10:06 PM
Could we unstick this thread and the Pro D2 thread and sticky the new season one?