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woosaah
01-02-06, 08:27 AM
nsw no have numbers? (http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3558781a1823,00.html)

This is going to be confusing

well for me anyway since i dont follow them dont know who is meant to be where http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

at least they will have numbers on their shorts

Wally
01-02-06, 09:13 AM
Innovative fags.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
01-02-06, 09:23 AM
i thought they were going to wear pink headbands with the numbers in light blue on it?...

they not doing that anymore?..is it too australian for the world?...

Otara
01-02-06, 09:37 AM
What a Joke...
This ill give the league world plenty of material against Union..especially in Ozzi where its alot more even than here,
Super 12 was a great series for 10 seasons, dont make Super 14 into more of an Exhibition than Sport, Its not 20/20 Cricket

Otara

Ps- It could only come out of Oz, suprised Sth Af didnt beat them to something stupid like this first.

Symclaw
01-02-06, 11:18 PM
http://www.nswrugby.com.au/verve/_resources/Lote-Tuqiri-models-jersey.jpg

Here you go assmunchers!

sanzar
01-02-06, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Otara@Feb 1 2006, 09:37 PM
What a Joke...
This ill give the league world plenty of material against Union..especially in Ozzi where its alot more even than here,
Super 12 was a great series for 10 seasons, dont make Super 14 into more of an Exhibition than Sport, Its not 20/20 Cricket.
What are you on about? The Super 12 has no respect in South Africa and is no where near as big as the NRL or AFL in Australia... how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp? I mean seriously, the NRL is a massively competative comp that has had 7 different champions in the last 7 years! The S12 went for 10 years and only had 3 champions... something like player numbers isn&#39;t going to give RL fans any ammunition. In any case though, how can you claim to be fearful that the S14 will end up an "exhibition" comp, when that has always been the major criticism from the north since it started? They&#39;ve never considered the S12 to be a serious rugby comp, so why should it matter if we do stuff like this?

rugged
02-02-06, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by sanzar+Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Otara@Feb 1 2006, 09:37 PM
What a Joke...
This ill give the league world plenty of material against Union..especially in Ozzi where its alot more even than here,
Super 12 was a great series for 10 seasons, dont make Super 14 into more of an Exhibition than Sport, Its not 20/20 Cricket.
What are you on about? The Super 12 has no respect in South Africa and is no where near as big as the NRL or AFL in Australia... how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp? I mean seriously, the NRL is a massively competative comp that has had 7 different champions in the last 7 years! The S12 went for 10 years and only had 3 champions... something like player numbers isn&#39;t going to give RL fans any ammunition. In any case though, how can you claim to be fearful that the S14 will end up an "exhibition" comp, when that has always been the major criticism from the north since it started? They&#39;ve never considered the S12 to be a serious rugby comp, so why should it matter if we do stuff like this? [/b]
Maybe they are afraid no one at all will watch it any more in Australia.

sanzar
02-02-06, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by rugged@Feb 2 2006, 12:20 PM
Maybe they are afraid no one at all will watch it any more in Australia.
What? People will all stop watching the S14 and rugby because the Tah&#39;s decide to move the numbers to their shorts and have initials on their backs? Come on! That&#39;s a load of crap. Seriously, this is a lot of controversy over nothing.

Serge
02-02-06, 02:34 AM
While it is not a big deal, it does make it harder for viewers who are not familiar with the players/team

Wally
02-02-06, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.

Ripper
02-02-06, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by sanzar+Feb 2 2006, 02:28 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Feb 2 2006, 02:28 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-rugged@Feb 2 2006, 12:20 PM

Maybe they are afraid no one at all will watch it any more in Australia.
What? People will all stop watching the S14 and rugby because the Tah&#39;s decide to move the numbers to their shorts and have initials on their backs? Come on! That&#39;s a load of crap. Seriously, this is a lot of controversy over nothing. [/b]
I thought you would be against the Idea.

QKXV
02-02-06, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by Wally+Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wally @ Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too. [/b]


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar?

The TRUTH
02-02-06, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Quintes+Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quintes @ Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM)</div>

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar? [/b]
I thought football(soccer) was by far the biggest sport in SA

..Is that right Quin??

St Helens RLFC
02-02-06, 10:21 AM
It looks stupid but it&#39;s hardly likely to stop people watching the sport!

Rassie
02-02-06, 10:34 AM
Wally: "Innovative fags. " (regarding Tahs new policy)

That was the best one line statement you`ve ever made so far ! http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

kaftka
02-02-06, 10:37 AM
If the Tahs win the Super 14 this year, expect to see every team follow suit... http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

QKXV
02-02-06, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!+Feb 2 2006, 08:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The TRUTH!! @ Feb 2 2006, 08:53 PM)</div>

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar?
I thought football(soccer) was by far the biggest sport in SA

..Is that right Quin?? [/b]


Population wise soccer has a larger following than rugby, yes, but as far as rugby goes I believe the super 12 was even bigger than the currie cup .

This is part of my problem with the quota system as well, and I know it is slightly off topic but maybe I can make it part of the topic. The Tahs not wearing numbers on their backs are not going to alienate as many rugby fans as the quota system will so this number issue in my opinion is a lot of controversy over nothing. Again you can argue that the quota system will draw people from previously disadvantaged race groups and therfore the numbers losing interest will be made up by those becoming interested because of quota&#39;s and I do believe that this quota situation can make or break SA rugby. Make it by gaining a wider range of players across races or break it by Sarfu prematurely fearing that it is not going to work and then ending it before the worm can turn into a butterfly thereby leaving a lot of people disillusioned in the wake of the quota system. However ther is no quata system in place for white players wanting to play for bafana-bafana (SA&#39;s footbal team), there is no quota system for indians wanting to play rugby, what about the portuguese, russian and chinese minorities in SA and the list goes on...what no quota for them??

Numbers on their backs or no numbers...the guys playing in Tahs&#39; will deserve pulling the jersey over their heads because of their talent earning them a position in the team......that is more I would be able to say about most of the SA teams for a while

cavan
02-02-06, 03:30 PM
no big deal. Plenty of clubs usta wear letters instead of numbers.

sanzar
02-02-06, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Quintes+Feb 3 2006, 02:31 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quintes @ Feb 3 2006, 02:31 AM)</div>

Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Feb 2 2006, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar?
I thought football(soccer) was by far the biggest sport in SA

..Is that right Quin??


Population wise soccer has a larger following than rugby, yes, but as far as rugby goes I believe the super 12 was even bigger than the currie cup .
[/b]
Really? I&#39;d actually been told by a couple south african people I know that in SA the Currie Cup has more interest thant the S12/14 has... possibly because of the quota controvosery that you stated, I don&#39;t know.

Wally
03-02-06, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by sanzar+Feb 3 2006, 11:10 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sanzar @ Feb 3 2006, 11:10 AM)</div>

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 3 2006, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Feb 2 2006, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar?
I thought football(soccer) was by far the biggest sport in SA

..Is that right Quin??


Population wise soccer has a larger following than rugby, yes, but as far as rugby goes I believe the super 12 was even bigger than the currie cup .

Really? I&#39;d actually been told by a couple south african people I know that in SA the Currie Cup has more interest thant the S12/14 has... possibly because of the quota controvosery that you stated, I don&#39;t know. [/b]
Television ratings, sponsorship and crowds don&#39;t lie..

QKXV
03-02-06, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Wally+Feb 3 2006, 07:29 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wally @ Feb 3 2006, 07:29 PM)</div>

Originally posted by sanzar@Feb 3 2006, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 3 2006, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Feb 2 2006, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar?
I thought football(soccer) was by far the biggest sport in SA

..Is that right Quin??


Population wise soccer has a larger following than rugby, yes, but as far as rugby goes I believe the super 12 was even bigger than the currie cup .

Really? I&#39;d actually been told by a couple south african people I know that in SA the Currie Cup has more interest thant the S12/14 has... possibly because of the quota controvosery that you stated, I don&#39;t know.
Television ratings, sponsorship and crowds don&#39;t lie.. [/b]


Well I could be wrong Sanzar, Wally. I have to admit that I&#39;ve not lived back home for over 4 years now, so my opinion could be tainted by this.

Like you are saying Wally, television ratings, sponsorship and crowds does not lie, so I take it you have the figures to compare the two comps for us?

Wally
03-02-06, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Quintes+Feb 3 2006, 08:33 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quintes @ Feb 3 2006, 08:33 PM)</div>

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 3 2006, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by sanzar@Feb 3 2006, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 3 2006, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Feb 2 2006, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar?
I thought football(soccer) was by far the biggest sport in SA

..Is that right Quin??


Population wise soccer has a larger following than rugby, yes, but as far as rugby goes I believe the super 12 was even bigger than the currie cup .

Really? I&#39;d actually been told by a couple south african people I know that in SA the Currie Cup has more interest thant the S12/14 has... possibly because of the quota controvosery that you stated, I don&#39;t know.
Television ratings, sponsorship and crowds don&#39;t lie..


Well I could be wrong Sanzar, Wally. I have to admit that I&#39;ve not lived back home for over 4 years now, so my opinion could be tainted by this.

Like you are saying Wally, television ratings, sponsorship and crowds does not lie, so I take it you have the figures to compare the two comps for us? [/b]
Yes.

shiznit
03-02-06, 09:31 AM
PFFT!! what does all this matter?
how about NSW worry about fixing the scrum up before making sure everyones named theyre gear.
whether he has 1, 3 or MD on his back matt dunning will still be a fat hopeless excuse for a prop. when i watched him being embarresed by andy sherridan i didnt feel sorry for him one bit. even when he was being carried off... well i must admit i did feel sorry for the poor ******** that had to carry that tub of lard from the pitch.

Wally
03-02-06, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by shiznit@Feb 3 2006, 10:31 PM
PFFT!! what does all this matter?
how about NSW worry about fixing the scrum up before making sure everyones named theyre gear.
whether he has 1, 3 or MD on his back matt dunning will still be a fat hopeless excuse for a prop. when i watched him being embarresed by andy sherridan i didnt feel sorry for him one bit. even when he was being carried off... well i must admit i did feel sorry for the poor ******** that had to carry that tub of lard from the pitch.
The Waratah&#39;s scrum is fine at Super 14 level. They built a lot of their game around it last season, and funnily enough they made the final.

QKXV
03-02-06, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Wally+Feb 3 2006, 09:06 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wally @ Feb 3 2006, 09:06 PM)</div>

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 3 2006, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 3 2006, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by sanzar@Feb 3 2006, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 3 2006, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Feb 2 2006, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Quintes@Feb 2 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Wally@Feb 2 2006, 07:11 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar@Feb 2 2006, 12:46 PM
how could this damage the comp when NZ is the only nation where the S14 is their premier sporting comp?
What is South Africa&#39;s premier sporting comp then? However you look at it, Super 14 is of a higher quality than the Currie Cup - and I&#39;m sure it has the numbers on the national competition too.


Strange, I thought S12 had a big following back home. So what is the premier sporting comp Sanzar?
I thought football(soccer) was by far the biggest sport in SA

..Is that right Quin??


Population wise soccer has a larger following than rugby, yes, but as far as rugby goes I believe the super 12 was even bigger than the currie cup .

Really? I&#39;d actually been told by a couple south african people I know that in SA the Currie Cup has more interest thant the S12/14 has... possibly because of the quota controvosery that you stated, I don&#39;t know.
Television ratings, sponsorship and crowds don&#39;t lie..


Well I could be wrong Sanzar, Wally. I have to admit that I&#39;ve not lived back home for over 4 years now, so my opinion could be tainted by this.

Like you are saying Wally, television ratings, sponsorship and crowds does not lie, so I take it you have the figures to compare the two comps for us?
Yes. [/b]
....and

shiznit
04-02-06, 02:16 AM
the tahs scrum is a joke. the only reason why they made the final was because they had an awesome backine. Tuqiri, Rodgers, Hewitt, Mckay, Turinui etc... the bulls were the side with the massive tight five. the crusaiders, highlanders, blues, hurricanes & bulls all have much better tight fives than the tahs.

Wally
04-02-06, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by shiznit@Feb 4 2006, 03:16 PM
the tahs scrum is a joke. the only reason why they made the final was because they had an awesome backine. Tuqiri, Rodgers, Hewitt, Mckay, Turinui etc... the bulls were the side with the massive tight five. the crusaiders, highlanders, blues, hurricanes & bulls all have much better tight fives than the tahs.
Dunning
Cannon
Baxter

However shizen they may be at international level, that&#39;s a good Super 14 standard front row.

Vickerman
Harrison

Class there. The Tahs had the best line out in the competiton.

Elsom
Waugh
Lyons

One of the better backrow trios in 2005.

The whole New South Wales game plan was built from the set piece you gimp.

_/

The ARU has forced the Waratahs to ditch the letters thing.

umosay
04-02-06, 04:02 AM
Dunnings initials were supposedly FC

..::ERIC::..
04-02-06, 04:36 AM
Better than ol&#39; BJ Ben Jacobs.

Wally
04-02-06, 05:05 AM
I heard BS didn&#39;t go down too well with Gary Flowers either.

sanzar
04-02-06, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by shiznit@Feb 4 2006, 02:16 PM
the tahs scrum is a joke. the only reason why they made the final was because they had an awesome backine. Tuqiri, Rodgers, Hewitt, Mckay, Turinui etc... the bulls were the side with the massive tight five. the crusaiders, highlanders, blues, hurricanes & bulls all have much better tight fives than the tahs.
http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif
You&#39;re an idiot.

shiznit
04-02-06, 09:40 PM
im an idiot? get your homo aussie blinkers off.
the only reason why you lot even think the tahs pack is good is beacuase the wallibies are so **** they have to resort to using them at international level.

that front row would struggle to make any of our Super14 franchises

then the locks... harrison is crap, vickerman is a classy player but we have a production line of vickemans coming out of NZ.

then you have that backrow..... waugh granted is outsatnding, but even then we have the likes of McCaw, Holah, Blackie, So&#39;oialo & Braid who are equal if not better than Waugh.
elsom?? the most overated player around. all you aussies are rating him as this and that yet he hasnt done anything of note has he. and lyons is just average.

mate you wanna talk about forwards... the whole lot of your franchises are a joke. thats why austalian rugby is the laughing stock of world rugby. thats why you have to hire rejected all black coaches to try and fix your sides up. then you cum all over yourselves over a rumour that robbie deans might go for the wallibies.

how about you stop buying crappy league rejects and hailing them as the next best thing (barnes) and produce some real props so you can compete at scrum time

Serge
05-02-06, 03:22 AM
Ive gotta say the Warratahs front row is definately a weak point. Baxter and Dunning are a couple of the worst international players around.

Wally
05-02-06, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by shiznit@Feb 5 2006, 10:40 AM
im an idiot? get your homo aussie blinkers off.
the only reason why you lot even think the tahs pack is good is beacuase the wallibies are so **** they have to resort to using them at international level.

that front row would struggle to make any of our Super14 franchises

then the locks... harrison is crap, vickerman is a classy player but we have a production line of vickemans coming out of NZ.

then you have that backrow..... waugh granted is outsatnding, but even then we have the likes of McCaw, Holah, Blackie, So&#39;oialo & Braid who are equal if not better than Waugh.
elsom?? the most overated player around. all you aussies are rating him as this and that yet he hasnt done anything of note has he. and lyons is just average.

mate you wanna talk about forwards... the whole lot of your franchises are a joke. thats why austalian rugby is the laughing stock of world rugby. thats why you have to hire rejected all black coaches to try and fix your sides up. then you cum all over yourselves over a rumour that robbie deans might go for the wallibies.

how about you stop buying crappy league rejects and hailing them as the next best thing (barnes) and produce some real props so you can compete at scrum time
It doesn&#39;t really matter what you think mate. The Waratahs made the final last year and were the best team for a good part of the season. They were better than four of the five Kiwi outfits, and they&#39;re defiantely not taking any backward steps this year. I&#39;m not one to say anything decent about New South Wales all the time, but no team could make a Super 12 final with a shizen forward pack. That said, it&#39;s not as important as it is at international level.