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psychic duck
07-07-11, 08:40 PM
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Former Blues centre/fly half Luke McAlister, has said in an interview with French media that he has given up on being selected for the Rugby World Cup later this year and will join Toulouse with immediate effect at the beginning of the Top 14 season in August.

After previously quitting the All Blacks for two seasons after the 2007 World Cup, aged 24, to spend two seasons with Sale, he has struggled to find his best form back in New Zealand, and was not required by the All Blacks at all during 2010, but had still been widely tipped as being a contender to be backup fly half for Dan Carter, and he even won a poll recently on scrum.com as the fans choice to be Dan Carter's backup a position that the All Blacks have struggled.

He says "The selectors are searching for a back up for Dan Carter at fly half, I haven't really played there. Therefore it's difficult for the selectors to consider a player like me. I played at the last World Cup in 2007, so it won't be the end of the world for me if I'm not selected this time. Life continues and I will join Toulouse very soon".

He went onto to say how much he admires Toulouse and that he is very happy to join one of "the best French teams" and play in a "beautiful town" and that he always wanted to play in France.

The full article is here in French.
http://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/top-14/2010-2011/mcalister-en-rouge-et-noir_sto2862378/story.shtml

FlukeArtist
07-07-11, 10:56 PM
Got to say- as a Blues fan, i'm glad to see the back of him.

Shaggy
07-07-11, 11:20 PM
It's unlikely that he would have got the starting 12 jersey for the Blues in 2012 anyway, with Ma'a Nonu signing for them

As for his RWC aspirations, maybe he could have stuck around for the ITM cup ... he might have got some game time for North Harbour in the 10 jersey to help press his claim ... form and injuries happen, so who knows, he might have played himself back into contention

TRF_Olyy
07-07-11, 11:54 PM
Shame, I'm a fan of McAlister, however you can see where he comes from
He's never going to beat SBW or Nonu to the 12 shirt, and hasn't played enough (or well enough at) flyhalf to be a realistic backup there
He could've made a useful squad player in case of injury etc. but if he wants to concentrate on his move to Toulouse then that's up to him really

FlukeArtist
12-07-11, 11:52 PM
And now he has failed to show up to Harbour training claiming a sick child.
Apparently the child has been sick for 10 days, yet there hasn't been a spare minute to call/text his employer and tell him he won't be coming in??
A likely story.
Reminds me of the time he claimed a "back injury" kept him out of the Harbour v Japan match a year or so ago.... that was funny because it was 2 days after another time he didn't make the ABs squad then as well....

I seriously doubt his and his father's credibility.

Good luck in France buddy- you won't be missed.

TRF_woosaah
13-07-11, 06:49 AM
yeah i am not a fan of him, and the way he is being portraid in the media currently isnt helping. aparenlty he will be at North Harbour training on saturday.

he wants an early release from his contract? good luck with that, if i was the NZRFU i would say no, it looks bad for other players who are leaving at the end of the season as well. and the way he has been acting id make him play. just to annoy him :)

FlukeArtist
13-07-11, 08:32 AM
And he has a sick child, but he wants to up stumps and head off to France??
Something dosn't add up.

TRF_nickdnz
13-07-11, 08:56 AM
yeah i am not a fan of him, and the way he is being portraid in the media currently isnt helping. aparenlty he will be at North Harbour training on saturday.

he wants an early release from his contract? good luck with that, if i was the NZRFU i would say no, it looks bad for other players who are leaving at the end of the season as well. and the way he has been acting id make him play. just to annoy him :)

Bring him on every losing game in the last 5 minutes.

I don't mind McAlister. This whole North Harbour thing is a real shame and I think he would have shown a lot of class to give his all for his last season of rugby in New Zealand. Since his return, he's probably gotten less oppertunities than he deserves. I think when he returned he saw that there was no decent backup to Daniel Carter and he could win back a test spot. Injuries, mixed form and in my opinion, a few poor selections obviously have left him feelling that his return was a waste of time.

If anything, it actually makes me really appreciate how classy guys like Chris Jack and Daniel Braid are. They clearly were enticed by the oppertunity for a test spot when they returned to New Zealand and for some reason or another were not given any real chances (Chris Jack doesn't even have a bench spot for the Crusaders it seems), however every time they play they give it 100% with total commitment off the field as well. It's one of the reasons I'd have loved for those two players especially, to make the Rugby World Cup.

Amobokoboko
14-07-11, 04:00 AM
It's indeed a pity but we can only respect his decision. I wish him all the best in France and I do hope Northland has a good ITM cup

TRF_nickdnz
14-07-11, 05:47 AM
It's indeed a pity but we can only respect his decision. I wish him all the best in France and I do hope Northland has a good ITM cup

I think you'll find that their situation has changed little with McAlister leaving, North Harbour on the other hand...

DonBilly
14-07-11, 06:10 AM
It's unlikely that he would have got the starting 12 jersey for the Blues in 2012 anyway, with Ma'a Nonu signing for them

As for his RWC aspirations, maybe he could have stuck around for the ITM cup ... he might have got some game time for North Harbour in the 10 jersey to help press his claim ... form and injuries happen, so who knows, he might have played himself back into contention

When Nonu signed for the Blues, hadn't McAlister already signed for Toulouse?

welshglory
14-07-11, 07:20 AM
Its a shame but i think international rugby has moved on from his type of player. AKA second five eight. If you look at the teams now you dont see many of them i presume its because of the 5 metre scrum rule, having a big crashing 12 is more useful now. Even Australia who have usually played 10s at 12 are changing e.g. Mccabe.

TRF_woosaah
15-07-11, 11:43 AM
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/5292151/Luke-McAlister-back-training-with-Harbour

he is back at training for north harbour while he is still trying to get a release from his contract. If i was the NZRFU id drag this out as much as i could :)

Larksea
19-07-11, 04:31 AM
kinda a real shame about McAlister

It was only ~10 weeks ago he was odds on to backup Carter. He was kicking 74-75% for goal including some impressive long range shots.

He had at least one full game at 10 and was much more impressive than Brett.

But everything just seem to fall apart at the blues about the same time Toeava went down with his injury. McAlister seem to lose confidence and his goal kicking suffered as well.

Only took 4-5 weeks for him to go from odds on to backup carter to only an outside chance.

I honestly thinnk he would have done the job for the AB's. Things just weren't ticking over well at the blues over the last half of the season. Being in teh AB's would have lifted McAlister I think.

Rhyer
21-07-11, 12:21 AM
kinda a real shame about McAlister

It was only ~10 weeks ago he was odds on to backup Carter. He was kicking 74-75% for goal including some impressive long range shots.

He had at least one full game at 10 and was much more impressive than Brett.

But everything just seem to fall apart at the blues about the same time Toeava went down with his injury. McAlister seem to lose confidence and his goal kicking suffered as well.

Only took 4-5 weeks for him to go from odds on to backup carter to only an outside chance.

I honestly thinnk he would have done the job for the AB's. Things just weren't ticking over well at the blues over the last half of the season. Being in teh AB's would have lifted McAlister I think.

Friday will reveal all about Colin Slade and if this decision was the right one...

Bangkaew
10-09-11, 05:35 AM
Its a shame but i think international rugby has moved on from his type of player. AKA second five eight. If you look at the teams now you dont see many of them i presume its because of the 5 metre scrum rule, having a big crashing 12 is more useful now. Even Australia who have usually played 10s at 12 are changing e.g. Mccabe.

I think Henry is looking for a more conservative and defensive back line? Kahui, Conrad Smith are more thinking defensive players while Nonu and Sonny Bill bring their bulk in to defense. In the last world cup the approach was that the ABs could outscore any one and Mcalister being one of the best attacking 12s there is was the preferred choice. Mcalister although good in defence, is not always the most enthusiastic defender.

Muzzy
29-09-11, 06:26 AM
kinda a real shame about McAlister

It was only ~10 weeks ago he was odds on to backup Carter. He was kicking 74-75% for goal including some impressive long range shots.

He had at least one full game at 10 and was much more impressive than Brett.

But everything just seem to fall apart at the blues about the same time Toeava went down with his injury. McAlister seem to lose confidence and his goal kicking suffered as well.

Only took 4-5 weeks for him to go from odds on to backup carter to only an outside chance.

I honestly thinnk he would have done the job for the AB's. Things just weren't ticking over well at the blues over the last half of the season. Being in teh AB's would have lifted McAlister I think.

an even bigger shame, he's now playing some of the best rugby he's ever played for Toulouse, why couldn't he play like that here, he must have been unhappy with Harbour

Surefire
04-10-11, 06:00 AM
an even bigger shame, he's now playing some of the best rugby he's ever played for Toulouse, why couldn't he play like that here, he must have been unhappy with Harbour

Just saw the replay of Toulouse-Clermont and he is playing awesome. He looks like he has been playing with the Toulouse side for years! It looks like Toulouse are going to be hard to beat. Nothing new though.

TRF_RC
04-10-11, 06:06 AM
Just saw the replay of Toulouse-Clermont and he is playing awesome. He looks like he has been playing with the Toulouse side for years! It looks like Toulouse are going to be hard to beat. Nothing new though.

Yeah, i hear he's getting on really well there. Good on him, i say.

TNT88
04-10-11, 01:12 PM
He is on fire. French rugby seems to suit his skillset well.

FlukeArtist
04-10-11, 06:42 PM
In my opinion; he isn't the guy we would want as back-up to DC anyway.

I think he is only playing well for Toulouse because this is the last throw of the dice for him when it comes to a high paying professional contract.

As Chili Plamer says in the movie Get Shorty; "sometimes you do your best work with a gun against your head"

I think that's probably the case here.
Because he looked down right average when he was in NZ

TRF_Olyy
04-10-11, 07:06 PM
I'm not so sure - he seemed unhappy to be in NZ the past season or so, and seems ecstatic to be in France - I think he's just enjoying his rugby more

donmcdazzle
06-10-11, 01:42 AM
He has a huge ego and probably didn't like having to scrap for a spot as someone else's backup. Once it looked like he wouldn't get there he just dropped his lip bigtime. Now he is probably having everyone treat him like a star again and his confidence/form is all the better for it. Why couldn't you have done this for the blues Luke you idiot.

jawmalawm24
06-10-11, 02:05 AM
I'm not so sure - he seemed unhappy to be in NZ the past season or so, and seems ecstatic to be in France - I think he's just enjoying his rugby moreI saw a game with him playing and he looked like the force was with him again. It really does look like he's enjoying his Rugby and good on him going for a contract and living in a beautiful place like France, better than living here in Nz where they offer you half if not quarter the money with a farm :)

FlukeArtist
06-10-11, 03:03 AM
I saw a game with him playing and he looked like the force was with him again. It really does look like he's enjoying his Rugby and good on him going for a contract and living in a beautiful place like France, better than living here in Nz where they offer you half if not quarter the money with a farm :)

Good on him if that all that matters to him

If it was me, i'd still like to have left with some integrity and honour intact.
By his behaviour, this guy has ostensibly destroyed his own.

If the French team at the RWC is anything to go by, you'd have to question the calibre of opposition he is playing against over there compared to what he faced in NZ too

TRF_Olyy
06-10-11, 09:19 AM
If the French team at the RWC is anything to go by, you'd have to question the calibre of opposition he is playing against over there compared to what he faced in NZ too
No you don't - Top14 is a quality competition, the French is just in dire straights, don't whether it's attitude or whatever, but that doesn't reflect the league at all

TNT88
06-10-11, 01:57 PM
The reason he is dominating is simply because he is playing at a very high standard, and this is rubbing off on the other guys around him.

He was pretty good last season, but I don't reckon he had as much freedom while playing for the Blues.

psychic duck
06-10-11, 05:19 PM
At 28 years old, do you reckon he'll ever return to New Zealand and the All Blacks again?

or have bridges been burnt now

I agree with domcdazzle, when he left to go to Sale he was number 1 number 12 and Nonu was on poor form and didn't even make the World Cup spot and was playing wing at the Hurricanes, so I think he left thinking he could just come back and retake the 12 jersey, but as it turned out Nonu turned out to be arguably the world's best 12 in 2008 and 2009 and then Sonny Bill Williams came along as well

and he was surprised to find himself having to scrap for the reserve 10 shirt with Slade, Cruden, Donald and Delany, and didn't enjoy having to scrap, I think he's a player who plays better with his ego bigger

however I'm glad he hasn't made the World Cup squad, although I think he's best reserve 10 other than Nick Evans, because he disrespected the All Blacks shirt in 2007 by going to Europe aged 24 and expecting to be put back in whenever he felt like returning

I think Graham Henry thought the same thing and was annoyed in 2007, and made him have to work harder for his All Black place than say Delany, and then his confidence went and he went downhill