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THE CHIROPRACTOR101
09-02-06, 11:15 PM
...and what better way to start the new era of southern hemisphere club rugby with two of the most explosive backlines in the competition and with forward packs boasting young future allblacks

i am hoping for a hectic opener,who wouldnt with the talent on show?...

jerry collins vs nick williams...umaga vs mcalistair and faatau,maa nonu vs rokocoko and howlett

the tight five will be a completely different struggle

both young packs that have been boosted with experience since the northern hemisphere tour...allblacks galore!

im sticking with my blues for 12+ victory

go blues

and discuss....

Dumbo
09-02-06, 11:29 PM
Things to watch...

Tana on McAlister... old Master vs the new futrue
Smith on Atiga... intellegance vs strength
Ma'a Nonu vs Smoking Joe... strength vs speed

This game has got he potential to lift the roof... star players on both sides... a solid 15+ All Blacks taking the field.

Think the Blues will dominate the forwards and provide quality ball, but look for some BIG defence coming from the Hurricanes back line and Rodney So'oialo, Jerry Collins and Chris Masoe to win at the breakdown.

Hurricanes by 10

..::ERIC::..
09-02-06, 11:34 PM
Front Rows:

McDonell - Hore - Tialata vs Woodcock - Mealamu - Afoa

Pretty much hands down to the Blues here unfortunately. Woodcock and Mealamu will be remembered as All Black greats oneday. Afoa and Tialata are relative newbies and could make it eventually. Hore is an AB benchwarmer at best only because of injuries to other hookers. McDonell is pretty average.

Andrews - Eaton vs Rawlinson - Williams
Again, the Blues win it here. Eaton is Mr Potential but Williams is proven and should be dominant in tonights match. Rawlinson is big and strong and offers support to Williams, Andrews nothing more than a provincial lock.

Collins - Masoe - So'oialo vs Williams - Braid - MacDonald
Hurricanes easily. A very powerful All Blacks loose forward trio against a makeshift trio consisting of a lazy fat Samoan, a shrimpy little honky and a tall lanky blindside playing 8.

Weepu - Gopperth vs Senio - Lavea
How the hell is Senio playing and Devine on the bench? Weepu to absolutely destroy him. Gopperth and Leave pretty even as neither is too flash.

Umaga - Smith vs McAlister - Atiga
Umaga and McAlister will be very even. Atiga is crap though.

Nonu - Fa'atau - Toeava vs Rokocoko - Howlett - Nacewa
Easily the Blues, but both are very exciting and talented back 3 combinations. Either was it will be a good battle but Nonu isn't a winger, Fa'atau can't catch and Toeava is over-rated.


Blues by lots, but not by 9 because thats what Ripper predicted.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
09-02-06, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by ..::ERIC::..@Feb 10 2006, 12:34 PM
a shrimpy little honky and a tall lanky blindside playing 8.


hey watch your mouth!!! :bravo:


seriously if mcalistair and atiga decide to go head on with umaga and smith they will get smashed to bits...they will get school'd on attack and defence if they go real physical in the midfield and against tana schmana and his understudy..they gotta work with all the players around them to progress through the hurricanes centre pairing

a more suitable combo would be tipoki and tuitevake with mcalistair at 10 if they were to play the agressive game but i can see there plan is the natural auckland style ...give it to the back three and attack from everywhere

shows nucifora is not changing the game drastically to suit him and more so the strengths of the team..all good coz thats where other teams in the super12 faild by trying to play outta there comfort zone and the reason why auckland and cantabury dominated the super12 in the past and also at npc level...coz they played to there strengths and excelled from it

should expect more from wellywood now that they have a solid core of players that suit there dynamic play

going back to my first point...umaga will own mcalistair this one night if luke goes full frontal on attack and d but luke will be better for it..so im hoping he does for his playing sake..

Dumbo
10-02-06, 12:08 AM
Would have liked to see McAlistar at 10 and Devine at 9 (why's he on the bench?)

loratadine
10-02-06, 12:43 AM
i need help - im in the uk and the ******** aint showing this game - is there anyway i can watch it online for free?

loratadine
10-02-06, 12:57 AM
please anyone - im staying up all night for this

Dumbo
10-02-06, 12:59 AM
Sorry Lora, nothing I've heard of.
There a couple of sites that give you text bassed live scores...

Will have look around

loratadine
10-02-06, 01:01 AM
thanks i dont mind paying up to 5 uk pounds - as that all ive got in my bank - but itll have to be trustworthy site if im going to part with cash

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
10-02-06, 01:55 AM
apparently senio had an awesome preseason....and devine is still under an injury cloud..nothing major they just weighing up the options
ofcourse devine is the preferred starter but i guess they giving senio his time off his gud form from the pre-season

i dont trust his partnership with lavea for some reason..both seem a little too immature

and what happened to there npc halfback?..the tongan guy?...where has he gone?

esoj
10-02-06, 03:44 AM
moa didn't make the cut I don't think. they brought in that harbour guys name begining with p as the third halfback.

yeah I have heard the same chiro devine is still possibly injured a bit and is recovering from previous injury and I guess not quite ready to play the full 80. he will be good impact and it gives senio a chance to get some game time.

the key is possesion if blues can get enough they have the backs to do the rest.

the forwards battle will be awesome and intense. both have some new guys in mixed with some experince.

should be a good opening to the super 14 and proabbly a high scoring game

Ripper
10-02-06, 04:14 AM
Blues will win by 9.

Even with Tasea Lavea (Who is the only person who rates ahead of Pat Lam on my hit list) starting (McAlister would've been the logical option, whatever way you look at it), but like Eric said, the Blues Front Row will be too strong and Ali Willaims will destroy Eaton (Funny how Eric has hopped on the Ali bandwagon...)

Possession? Territory? Don't mean **** with these two backlines, either can score anytime, anywhere... Aucklands Advantage upfront will be negated by Lavea and the Backrow... although I have faith in Nick Williams to do some damage, and the lack of Brent Ward's name has me shivering. All in all, should be a good game, and Auckland to win 35-26.

Either way, they could both smash any NH team who had the balls to face them.

Wally
10-02-06, 04:49 AM
Boring.

Wally
10-02-06, 06:09 AM
Yet I'm watching it.

The Blues lead 10-3 at break.

nik
10-02-06, 06:20 AM
its blues leading 13-3 at half time

loratadine
10-02-06, 07:09 AM
19-34 to hurricanes at the moment - blues ball retention is quite shocking.

..::ERIC::..
10-02-06, 07:27 AM
Mint game. Bloody stoked.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
10-02-06, 09:11 AM
bloody hell...see why steven devine was benched?...

anyways gud game to the canes...umaga was rapid in the first half and i thought that his departure would give the blues the advantage but i forgot they had hurrican nonu waiting on the wing....and he carved the blues midfield from the get go

i thought the wiser option to counter attack for the blues was to bring in either ward or rua tipoki as mcalistair,lavea and atiga kept trying to hang on to nonus legs for dear life

id reckon tipoki would hav put a stop to that nonsense and slam nonu down...

ohwell enough experimenting now...mcdonald is diffinetly not a number 8...so put him at 6 where he belongs next time

ice and faatau was a smooth link combo and they will do well with the midfielders they have feeding them


but HOLY CRAP

AUCKLAND TIGHT 5 > THE WORLD!

Rassie
10-02-06, 09:53 AM
Chiro : "AUCKLAND TIGHT 5 > THE WORLD! " - Yeah right....only that `THE WORLD` means much more than your puny island :D

Seriously now, it`s the thris consecutive seasons for the Blues when they start lousy! Somewhere around week 4 it`s possible to be back in the competition.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
10-02-06, 09:57 AM
mealamu is the best hooker in the world and woodcock is the best loosehead in the world so it might aswell be...and ali williams aint half bad either

history only lays a foundation....only repeats by coincidence...go talk about your lack luster performing cats before you go around and talk about other teams you know nothing of

Rassie
10-02-06, 10:02 AM
Dumbass, my favorite team is Cheetahs and Os du Randt is by far, even at his age, way to superior to your Woodcock. You`re lucky that Naka Drotske retired but i bet my money that even now he could pass lessons how to thorw a ball to your maori Mealamu. In fact, you had a grat player, but that was Fitzie, after him .....

Hehe, i bet all my money that you have no idea that Auckland Blues won 86 and 87 Super 6 (the first two edition of the Super 6, competition that first started in 86 (first Super 6 teams: Crusaders, Auckland, Wellington, QLD , NSW and Fiji) !

Huh, look who`s talking with me about history, a bloody ignorant! :wall:

nik
10-02-06, 10:11 AM
i think the blues should have mcalistair at 1st 5...tipoki at 2nd 5..and a toss up between tuitawake and atiga at centre...

i know that lavea opened up the hurricanes defense for the first try...but he didnt seem to take control of the game...also too many of his kicks go out on the foul...

still early days....

ice toeava looks like a classy player

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
10-02-06, 10:38 AM
allblacks frontrow is better then any front row in the WORLD...

why?...

coz of mealamu,woodcock and hayman which of auckland possess 2 of those key factors
cheetahs?..cats?...all the same...losers

heres you talking history which is like modern day to you anyway...you backwards old man sitting on wheelchair going downhill..

heres a quiz for you

how many sth african teams won the super12 championship in the ten years of its existance as opposed to the auckland blues?...

now sush and answer the question rassie the racist...you dont wanna bore our viewers with youre constant "back in my dayyyy..when we use to write on cave walls and hunt wild t'rex" rabble...just answer the question

Rassie
10-02-06, 10:42 AM
Again, you retard, Northern Transvaal won the competition in 93 !

The best front row in the World (again, the world mean much more than your puny island), you`ll find it in Bulls and Cheetahs squad you nimrod, check the stats and stop spanking your monkey in front of your coconut screen ! :D

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
10-02-06, 11:17 AM
the genius said to the old fool

heres a quiz for you

how many sth african teams won the super12 championship in the ten years of its existance as opposed to the auckland blues?...
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to that the old fool replied

Again, you retard, Northern Transvaal won the competition in 93 !
[/b]

:bana:

rassie aye...that super viagra formula must have its side effects...


The best front row in the World (again, the world mean much more than your puny island), you`ll find it in Bulls and Cheetahs squad you nimrod, check the stats and stop spanking your monkey in front of your coconut screen ! [/b]

umm..ur point is losing once again...you want to check stats then you should read all about the tight heads won by the allblacks last year and the domination of every forward pack we challenged last year

surely you watch rugby coz you and every one else who did watch rugby...would know that the allblacks have had the most superior front row all last year...and presumably they will continue to do so this year

and....two of those players from that front row feature in this auckland my dear old old old old old old friend

which brings me back to the point....auckland blues have the best tight five becoz of the core players that feature in the dominating allblacks

mealamu,woodcock and ali williams...

and as for the cheetahs?...

they are newbies..they will eat the veterans dust for a good year or two

dont get your hopes up..you might have your 37th stroke

Rassie
10-02-06, 11:27 AM
Os du Randt (Wiaan du Preez), Tiaan Liebenberg, CJ van der Linde (Jannie du Plesis) - Cheetahs - the best front row !

You moron, Cheetahs are not debutants, they were previous Orange Free State and played in Super 12 for a season until the f***ed up SARFU leaders decided against us!

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
10-02-06, 11:35 AM
and here we go with the

"back in my dayyyy..when we use to write on cave walls and hunt wild t'rex"[/b] talk...


:zzz:

kaftka
10-02-06, 11:36 AM
You know what would be a bugger? If the Cheetahs are the lowest placed South African team in the competition this year ;)



Back on topic. I couldn't see the game as I had work, but sounds bloody good...

Time to see what I picked for the score in the other thread ;)

Ripper
10-02-06, 07:05 PM
Nonu should've at least been warned for his attempted spear tackle of McAlister 5 seconds after he had punted the ball. And what about that try (think it was scored by Umaga) where there were 2 fricking foward passes in a row, that changed the whole momentum of the game... the Ref deserved to be shot.

So does Tasea Lavea, and you can't blame Devine for going down like that after 25 seconds, he had his head smashed into the turf while getting pummeled by Jerry Collins... name me a player who at least wouldn't be dazed after taking a hit like that.

If Nucifora is the Henry clone they make him out to be, there will be no reason why he shouldn't replace Lavea now, Most of the punting was done by McAlister anyway and he looked more dangerous with the ball in hand, every time he ran with the ball he either stepped and made a tackler look stupid or broke or at least gained some decent ground before going down.

Nick Williams needs to get invovled more or else he will be relegated once Flavell returns... be intresting to see what he's like, the last time I saw him he gave Richard Hill some impromtu facial reconstruction surgery.

philbe
10-02-06, 08:10 PM
Lavea is a bum

Nucifora needs to put McAlister as 1st with Tipoki and Tuitavake in the midfield
and Nick the Beast Williams needs to be at number 8

nik
10-02-06, 10:59 PM
i under-estimated the hurricanes..and thought blues would run rampant...guess i was wrong..

looking at the players in all 5 super14 teams...the hurricanes have the most current all blacks (from the GS tour)...11 that is..6 in the forwards..5 in the backs..also lome fa'atau is an experienced samoan international

the problem with blues seemed they werent getting enough players to the breakdown..thus losing the ball far too often...
the backline seemed too flat at times (flat backline maybe?????)

and mcalister should be playing at 1st 5...he won the tri-nations for the ABs from that position.

Dumbo
11-02-06, 12:28 AM
Man, how was Devine getting munched, that had to hurt...
Slow first half, big second half.

And Rassie os du fat ******* is old, fat and slow.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
11-02-06, 01:35 AM
devine got murdered...poor guy

jerry collins rag dolled him in the pitch...and ali williams had to slap his face and tell em "..we in new zealand mate..."

poor guy...then he let in maa nonus try..he shudve been benched straight away

esoj
11-02-06, 02:28 AM
well full credit to the canes they played well especially in the second half.

blues need to sort out the loosie combo. macdonald is no 8 but the beast williams there. he was devasting in the npc in that position. mcAlister surely has to be at first five next game lavea is utter crap and that would also free up a spot for a guy like tipoki who was killing it in the npc.

it is but 1 game in the season so far for the blues and I have faith that they can bounce back.