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Zog
02-08-11, 09:05 PM
I was wondering if in a similar way to how past EA Rugby games have covered the issue, does this game still have the teams it couldn't get licenses for but with fake kits and badges etc.? Most specifically the missing national teams and South African Super XV sides, just worried about the serious gaps the game could have in it if this isn't the case.

Oh and feel free to remove this thread if this issue has already been covered several times, which I'm sure it has.

Feicarsinn
02-08-11, 09:12 PM
There are no club teams in the game, only the 20 World Cup participants. If any of these teams are unlicenced (most notably Australia and New Zealand), they will still appear in the, albeit with flags instead of crests, different player names, etc.

Teh Mite
02-08-11, 09:15 PM
I expect it's along those lines. To give you an idea, the England team in RC has an all white kit with a big red St. Georges Cross emblazoned across the chest.

cmac95
02-08-11, 09:15 PM
There are no club teams in the game, only the 20 World Cup participants. If any of these teams are unlicenced (most notably Australia and New Zealand), they will still appear in the, albeit with flags instead of crests, different player names, etc.


This is the Sidhe game. :D

Feicarsinn
02-08-11, 09:18 PM
This is the Sidhe game. :D

Ah right. Reading is for squares.

Getofmeland
02-08-11, 09:22 PM
In terms of Clubs like the South African Super XV teams, they are the names of the cities, and its not called SupeRugby in the game.

In terms of Countries there jersey's are represented by a St Georges Cross, and the stadiums are South West London etc... As for international players, I am not sure I think South Africa are fully fictional... as for the others maybe Mario could confirm this?

Zog
02-08-11, 09:27 PM
Is it fictional with names such as like Ryan Banana, instead of Habana but with all of Habana's attributes and the ability to edit his name? Or totally fictional players?

Getofmeland
02-08-11, 09:28 PM
Again that's one for the SIDHE Team...

Milla
02-08-11, 10:44 PM
Is it fictional with names such as like Ryan Banana, instead of Habana but with all of Habana's attributes and the ability to edit his name? Or totally fictional players?

Our made up sides bear no relation to any real teams.

Wally
02-08-11, 11:54 PM
Our made up sides bear no relation to any real teams.

Not even stats? (I know you can change them but it is going to be an arduous process)

Getofmeland
03-08-11, 05:56 AM
Our made up sides bear no relation to any real teams.

What about your England side? Is that fictional players?


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Milla
03-08-11, 08:05 AM
Where licences are lacking for sides and player likenesses numbers are made up with made up players and teams.

Getofmeland
03-08-11, 08:40 AM
So do players like Toby Flood et al appear in the England Squad?

LPsoldier ZA
03-08-11, 08:52 AM
So do players like Toby Flood et al appear in the England Squad?

As far as I know....he/Toby Flood/all real players will not be in the squad...but (because they are licensed in the aviva competition) you can easily rotate them with the 'fake' players. This counts for all teams etc.

Milla/Mario can maybe just confirm.

Thingimubob
03-08-11, 02:32 PM
As far as I know....he/Toby Flood/all real players will not be in the squad...but (because they are licensed in the aviva competition) you can easily rotate them with the 'fake' players. This counts for all teams etc.

Milla/Mario can maybe just confirm.

Actually I think I heard on Mystics videos from the Dublin gameplay event that the real players will be in the non-licenced international sides, who's kits will all represent their nations flag (something I can't help but dread about the welsh one :p could end up looking a bit tacky). Apparently it's something to do with them having the licences to the club teams, so have them for the players. I might be wrong about this, will have to re-watch the video to check.

cmac95
03-08-11, 02:34 PM
In Rugby 08 BOD and co were on the unlicenced Leinster team.

TRF_Olyy
03-08-11, 02:47 PM
Actually I think I heard on Mystics videos from the Dublin gameplay event that the real players will be in the non-licenced international sides, who's kits will all represent their nations flag (something I can't help but dread about the welsh one :p could end up looking a bit tacky). Apparently it's something to do with them having the licences to the club teams, so have them for the players. I might be wrong about this, will have to re-watch the video to check.
That'd be mad if true, considering that HB have the licenses to the majority of "Player likenesses" - Bit of a pisstake if they just stick the actual players in the squad...

tomtom364
03-08-11, 03:28 PM
That'd be mad if true, considering that HB have the licenses to the majority of "Player likenesses" - Bit of a pisstake if they just stick the actual players in the squad...

It is true. Reports say that the Irish team in game at the dublin hands on event had the current players as they were licenced in Munster and what not. Just has no official logo/jersey/stadia.

its an understandable loop-hole. The players are already in the game, they are English... so they will play for England. HB has the licence on the "official" english team, but as this is not the official just a made up one to represent the country of england. sidhe can populate it with whatever players they want (or the user wants, can edit nationality and make lumo an englishman if you so wish) with any players in their database, be it a licenced player or made up.

as for jerseys repping the flags... cant wait to see the welsh dragon :P

Thingimubob
03-08-11, 06:27 PM
That'd be mad if true, considering that HB have the licenses to the majority of "Player likenesses" - Bit of a pisstake if they just stick the actual players in the squad...

Meh, I think the whole licensing situation is a bit of a pisstake <_< would've been awesome if both games could have shared licenses, so that gameplay would be the core of comparing the two, but was never gonna happen.

jmaher92
03-08-11, 06:31 PM
That'd be mad if true, considering that HB have the licenses to the majority of "Player likenesses" - Bit of a pisstake if they just stick the actual players in the squad...

How is it a pisstake? As Billy said, the Irish team is picked from club players. You can license a jersey and crest but not a country as such.

TRF_Olyy
03-08-11, 06:36 PM
You can license the likenesses of players though, as they have done
The England likenesses are the property of HB, the Aviva likenesses HB
So Toby Flood in an England shirt = HBs
Toby Flood in a Tigers = Sidhe
I have no qualms in Flood being able to be moved into the England team or whatever, but him being there as standard doesn't sit right with me

jmaher92
03-08-11, 06:45 PM
You can license the likenesses of players though, as they have done
The England likenesses are the property of HB, the Aviva likenesses Sidhe
So Toby Flood in an England shirt = HBs
Toby Flood in a Tigers = Sidhe
I have no qualms in Flood being able to be moved into the England team or whatever, but him being there as standard doesn't sit right with me

Toby Flood in an official england shirt belongs to HB, yes. In Sidhes game, England is just a team comprised of players with English nationality. I understand where you're coming from but if it saves the consumer the bother of switching in the players in then i'm happy for it :) Plus we wouldn't be able to use our favorite countries online with real players if this wasn't the case.

Edit: As a poster said above, HB did something similiar in their older games. They put players they'd licensed nationally into "fake"club and provincial teams.

tomtom364
03-08-11, 06:46 PM
You can license the likenesses of players though, as they have done
The England likenesses are the property of HB, the Aviva likenesses HB
So Toby Flood in an England shirt = HBs
Toby Flood in a Tigers = Sidhe
I have no qualms in Flood being able to be moved into the England team or whatever, but him being there as standard doesn't sit right with me

ah but there is where it is.
hb have a likeness of Toby Flood in the Official English team endorsed by the RFU.

sidhe dont have an endorsed team for england. but hb cannot licence the country name of england. so... tough luck?

if RWC2011 had club teams and say (keep the example going) leicester tigers isnt licenced in RWC2011 but they had a "city of leicester" team. then HB could place their english licenced toby flood in the "city of leicester" team.

TRF_Olyy
03-08-11, 06:46 PM
Aye, there'll always be loopholes and it seems Sidhe have gotten around it
Better for us as gamers anyway, as you said

pickle
03-08-11, 06:48 PM
You can license the likenesses of players though, as they have doneThe England likenesses are the property of HB, the Aviva likenesses HBSo Toby Flood in an England shirt = HBsToby Flood in a Tigers = SidheI have no qualms in Flood being able to be moved into the England team or whatever, but him being there as standard doesn't sit right with meDont see why any gamer would have a problem with licences or likeness as its all for our benefit. All licences and likeness should be in both titles imo, that way whichever game you prefer, your good to go.

tomtom364
03-08-11, 06:49 PM
Aye, there'll always be loopholes and it seems Sidhe have gotten around it
Better for us as gamers anyway, as you said

exactly, better for us lot :D

and as i said, if HB had clubs then they could do the exact same in reverse.

dan the man
03-08-11, 07:30 PM
On Rugby 06 they had the license for FFR but not Toulouse... And i remember that the players in the French team had real names/likenesses but the ones playing your Toulouse had fake names and likenesses, but had the exact same stats and attributes. This is the opposite of what could happen with Rugby Challenge so it may be possible.

I use to crack up cause i'd play as France and have Ellisalde in my starting 15 and Ellisara on the bench :p

Getofmeland
03-08-11, 07:36 PM
Aye, there'll always be loopholes and it seems Sidhe have gotten around it
Better for us as gamers anyway, as you said

Note its not SIDHE its HES who hold the licences

Mario
03-08-11, 11:29 PM
Actually I think I heard on Mystics videos from the Dublin gameplay event that the real players will be in the non-licenced international sides, who's kits will all represent their nations flag (something I can't help but dread about the welsh one :p could end up looking a bit tacky). Apparently it's something to do with them having the licences to the club teams, so have them for the players. I might be wrong about this, will have to re-watch the video to check. There have been snippets of misinformation arising from Billy's tour, and this issue is one of them.Rugby Challenge ships with full lineups of fake players in our fake international teams.It is correct however that we do have licenses to players play internationally if they are in a club team we have licensed. If we don't have the appropriate international license, they do NOT appear in our fake version of that international side by default.

Thingimubob
03-08-11, 11:40 PM
There have been snippets of misinformation arising from Billy's tour, and this issue is one of them.Rugby Challenge ships with full lineups of fake players in our fake international teams.It is correct however that we do have licenses to players play internationally if they are in a club team we have licensed. If we don't have the appropriate international license, they do NOT appear in our fake version of that international side by default.

Ah cheers for clearing that one up! :) Does this then mean that if i want to play online with Wales I won't be able to play with the real line up?

LPsoldier ZA
04-08-11, 06:33 AM
There have been snippets of misinformation arising from Billy's tour, and this issue is one of them.Rugby Challenge ships with full lineups of fake players in our fake international teams.It is correct however that we do have licenses to players play internationally if they are in a club team we have licensed. If we don't have the appropriate international license, they do NOT appear in our fake version of that international side by default.

So...I was correct? :D

*What do I win? :P

Milla
04-08-11, 11:51 PM
Yes, our made up sides are precisely that, and you can move any player into any team. A pat on the back for you.

LPsoldier ZA
05-08-11, 06:46 AM
Yes, our made up sides are precisely that, and you can move any player into any team. A pat on the back for you.

I was hoping for a gold star...but I guess the pat on the back will do...

Thanks! :D

pit
31-08-11, 04:48 PM
So a player like jean de villiers or morne steyn won't look like they do or even be on the game:(coz south africa and their provinces isint licensed,:(but toby flood will be coz of the aviva licens:(damn

peks89
31-08-11, 05:18 PM
yes but you can edit players face, kit and attributes...

pit
31-08-11, 05:32 PM
Yeah I know but most of us aint good at making players look like they do:(this is so unfair,,,,but still gonna buy it and try my best,haha

andy22m
01-09-11, 06:09 PM
This is all way too disappointing :( . I was so looking forward to a new next gen rugby game and now its all just messed up.. The one with all the licenses is not for PC and doesnt have any club rugby.. Neither has super rugby, nor currie cup. And the one for PC has absolutely no real teams except for NZ and Australia and their clubs along with few other teams i dnt even know. No South African teams. No Blue bulls... And now there wont be any more mods to Rugby 08.. Guess I should start playing soccer rather...

peks89
02-09-11, 05:24 PM
you can get the one with your SA licenses but the gameplay is ****...or you can get the NZ and Australian one where it teaches u how to play real rugby :p

Muzzy
07-09-11, 10:19 PM
here's a question

any chance you guys could get the licenses for the Cibi, Siva Tau and Sipi Tau war dances, and then make it so you can buy them on the online store? and are they actually licensed at all? i didn't know you could license a dance

pit
08-09-11, 08:56 AM
True that playa