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THE CHIROPRACTOR101
21-02-06, 02:11 AM
ooohhhh im loving the look of this contest

habana did make the aussies look silly in the trinations and im hoping to see more of the same this sunday or saturday to our saffer viewers

will be very tough game and very close..im backing bulls to win

The TRUTH
21-02-06, 05:18 AM
Habana Banana.....if you dont give him any space he's useless, never really see him break the line.

Keep him marked and he wont be a problem, give him space and he'll burn you

He really needs to get stronger and add a fend to his game IMO

edit: The Tahs will win ... no doubt about it

Mr. Laxative
21-02-06, 05:25 AM
Yep, tahs to win - they are to strong. Tat Polota-Nau and Sam Norton-Knight and Daniel Halangahu. All former brumbies rookies.

aussie1st
21-02-06, 05:58 AM
Never knew Daniel Halangahu was an ex Brumby, we could use a backup 5/8 as Giteau isn't the answer anymore.
If Tahs can get their handling sorted they will be tough to beat.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
21-02-06, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Feb 21 2006, 05:18 PM
Habana Banana.....if you dont give him any space he's useless, never really see him break the line.

Keep him marked and he wont be a problem, give him space and he'll burn you

He really needs to get stronger and add a fend to his game IMO

edit: The Tahs will win ... no doubt about it
thats a pretty dumb assumption seeing that he is one of the best defending wingers in the world

and just like last week he forces turnovers by his rush defence which then caused a try..(you can hold him acountable to a good majority of sth african points at test level)
infact i dont know anyone else that constantly plays great with the rush defense..i mean if he ever gets caught out he simply sprints down to catch the opponent

he doesnt need a fend he needs a step..and he needs to continue his chip n chase game which he gets better at every attempt

The TRUTH
21-02-06, 06:29 AM
No doubt he's the best winger around ATM, but when hes covered he always tries to step his man in tight spaces(rarely works) rather than go through him or fend them off

He doesn't really look like a threat unless he's got an overlap on, but when he has space his steping and chips are deadly.

I'd like to see him break the line like Tuqiri,Sailor,Nonu,Gear or Mitchell(smaller winger who uses a great fend to make breaks) who all look dangerous no matter where they are.

Maybe i'm taking to much from last weeks game but its somthing i've noticed for a little while now.

Stormer
21-02-06, 11:50 AM
Just heard big Vic was going to be back this week, than I hear they have decided to rest him for another week even though he is cleared to play, gotta question the logic of this, this is a must win for the Bulls every home game is a must win maybe Meyer is trying to pull a shifty one.....

Anyway loks like no changes for the Bulls so I think tahs should win this one just....

Dumbo
22-02-06, 09:04 PM
Bulls:

15 Johan Roets, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JP Nel, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Derick Hougaard, 9 Fourie du Preez (captain), 8 Jacques Cronjé, 7 Johan Wasserman, 6 Pedrie Wannenburg, 5 Francois van Schouwenburg, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Andries Human, 2 Kobus van der Walt, 1 Jaco Engels.

Replacements: 16 Chilliboy Ralepelle, 17 Danie Thiart, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Pierre Spies, 20 Heini Adams, 21 Morne Steyn, 22 Riaan van der Bergh.

aussie1st
23-02-06, 02:54 AM
No Matfield, but Francois van Schouwenburg has been doing an alright job.

QKXV
23-02-06, 08:17 AM
Naturally I will call Bulls for this one. Loftus is not just a home advantage, to the aussies it is the most hated ground in the comp. Hopefully the Bulls will make the Tahs hate it even more.

Rassie
23-02-06, 09:28 AM
Quintes: "Naturally I will call Bulls for this one." - enough said !

Bulls win win, there is no doubt about that and yes, it`s a great opportunity for the Loftus announcer to make some fun of the poor Sydney fags ! (innovative fags tho as Wally named them)

A couple of seasons ago, ossies got angry by the `sheep molestors` remarks that Loftus announcers made ! Hehe, were was he wrong anyway? :D

The TRUTH
23-02-06, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Rassie@Feb 23 2006, 09:28 PM
A couple of seasons ago, ossies got angry by the `sheep molestors` remarks that Loftus announcers made ! Hehe, were was he wrong anyway? :D
Of course they were angry, no Aussie likes to be mistaken for a Kiwi.

sanzar
23-02-06, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Rassie@Feb 23 2006, 08:28 PM
Quintes: "Naturally I will call Bulls for this one." - enough said !

Bulls win win, there is no doubt about that and yes, it`s a great opportunity for the Loftus announcer to make some fun of the poor Sydney fags ! (innovative fags tho as Wally named them)


Last time I checked the Waratahs had beaten the Bulls twice in a row, so I wouldn't be too confident!



A couple of seasons ago, ossies got angry by the `sheep molestors` remarks that Loftus announcers made ! Hehe, were was he wrong anyway?* :D
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Because you're moron's... It's Aussies that take the **** out of kiwi's for being sheep f***ers and take off yarpies for being inbred! You guys just don't know which way is up :P and can't figure out which insult goes where... it must be that inbred gene playing up again :P .

The TRUTH
23-02-06, 03:41 PM
WWW.NSWRUGBY.COM

Hoiles & Halangahu to Start at Loftus
Friday, 24 February 2006


An outstanding performance off the bench against the Stormers last weekend has led to Stephen Hoiles winning selection at Number 8 for Saturday night’s Tooheys New Super 14 clash with the Bulls in Pretoria.
Stephen Hoiles

Hoiles replaces Lyons in the starting side while Daniel Halangahu has also been promoted to flyhalf shifting Tim Donnelly out of the 22 as the HSBC Waratahs opt for a 5/2 forwards bench.


“Our bench players have been lifting us and when they show form as good as Stephen and Daniel have they must be promoted,” said head coach Ewen McKenzie.


“It’s really not about dropping players at the moment; it’s more like promoting players. It’s a positive selection.


“The Bulls will be a hefty challenge at Loftus on Saturday and I’m confident with Lyons and Palu on the bench we’ll have the firepower late in the game to see us through.”


Will Caldwell has overcome his hamstring strain and will play off the bench.


HSBC Waratahs to Play the Bulls in Pretoria on Saturday

1 Matt Dunning
2 Adam Freier
3 Al Baxter
4 Alex Kanaar
5 Daniel Vickerman
6 Rocky Elsom
7 Phil Waugh [v-c]
8 Stephen Hoiles
9 Chris Whitaker [c]
10 Daniel Halangahu
11 Lote Tuqiri
12 Shaun Berne
13 Morgan Turinui
14 Peter Hewat
15 Sam Norton-Knight

SUBS:
Tatafu Polota-Nau
Benn Robinson
Will Caldwell
Wycliff Palu
David Lyons
Brett Sheehan
Ben Jacobs


Norton-Knight still not at 10, that might change during the match.

Sailor has been suspended for 1 match after his night out

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
23-02-06, 06:45 PM
they hyped up wyclef palu last year and he didnt deliever...hope he does coz he looks to have some real talent and sumthing the aussies have been lackin in a while now as owen finegan type battering ram player

Dumbo
23-02-06, 10:24 PM

Groen_en_Goud
25-02-06, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by THE CHIROPRACTOR101+Feb 21 2006, 02:04 PM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-The TRUTH!!@Feb 21 2006, 05:18 PM
Habana Banana.....if you dont give him any space he&#39;s useless, never really see him break the line.

Keep him marked and he wont be a problem, give him space and he&#39;ll burn you

He really needs to get stronger and add a fend to his game IMO

edit: The Tahs will win ... no doubt about it
thats a pretty dumb assumption seeing that he is one of the best defending wingers in the world

and just like last week he forces turnovers by his rush defence which then caused a try..(you can hold him acountable to a good majority of sth african points at test level)
infact i dont know anyone else that constantly plays great with the rush defense..i mean if he ever gets caught out he simply sprints down to catch the opponent

he doesnt need a fend he needs a step..and he needs to continue his chip n chase game which he gets better at every attempt [/b]
I agree entirely with you Chiro.

It is interesting to note though if I&#39;m not mistaken, that he has worn the No.13 quite a few times. Not at International level, at domestic level.

Wildwil
25-02-06, 01:36 PM
We wil see who is the Banana once Habana wastes you aussies!

Bull
25-02-06, 06:20 PM
Bulls won 26-17!!! :-)

aussie1st
26-02-06, 01:35 AM
How did Halangahu go at 10? If he was crap I think they need to give Norton Knight a try at 10.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
26-02-06, 03:01 AM
this game proved again why habana is the best winger in the world...

not only an opportunist but he creates those opportunities..for him and everyone else

and his rush defence gets better and better hahaha....the look on tuquri face when his centre partner got smashed hahahaha...and rocky elsom gettin dumped on his ass by little bryan habana

gud solid game...

sanzar
26-02-06, 03:12 AM
**** game... Waratahs were without a few good players again, but I still expected them to win it to be honest, especially considering how the bulls usually have such a tough time against us (Tah&#39;s have won 8 of their 12 matches against them). Oh well, we&#39;re gonna have Vickerman, Rogers and Sailor back for the sharks, so it should be a better performance next week.

Wildwil
26-02-06, 09:08 AM
What did you guys say about Habana! There is your profe Bulls Rule!

The TRUTH
26-02-06, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Wildwil@Feb 26 2006, 09:08 PM
What did you guys say about Habana! There is your profe Bulls Rule!
First of all i never said Habana was ****(he&#39;s a great player) i said i&#39;d like to see him break the advantage line because the bulls look useless in attack.

I was making a point that i didnt think he could hurt the Tahs unless thy gave him plenty of space and he didnt do anything to change my mind with ball in hand.

He made 2 good tackles and scored a try that any 10 year old could have put over the line, all in all he had little effect on the game.


The bulls rule[/b]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The bulls have no chance of making the finals, they struggled to beat a Tahs team that was missing 3 of there best players and were at the end of a tough road trip.Waratahs played terrible and basically gave the bulls possesion with poor kicking and unforced errors.

The Bulls look useless in attack and there scrum(there so called strong point) was smashed on numerous occasions by a smaller Waratah front row.



On the bright side, the Tahs now head back to Sydney for there first home games of the season against easy opposition in the Sharks and Cats , they should have Sailor, Rogers and Vickerman to play the Sharks next weekend.








PALU SMASH!!

The TRUTH
26-02-06, 01:19 PM
NSWRUGBY.COM (http://www.nswrugby.com.au/MediaExtranet/News/2006/February/DunningandElsomSuspendedforPunching.aspx)

Dunning and Elsom Suspended for Punching
Sunday, 26 February 2006
NSWRU Media Unit


HSBC Waratahs prop Matt Dunning has been suspended for one week and flanker Rocky Elsom for four weeks by a SANZAR Judiciary for punching in Saturday&#39;s Super 14 clash with the Bulls in Pretoria.
Rocky Elsom contemplates loss to Bulls The hearing was held in Johannesburg before the Waratahs departed for Sydney.

"I&#39;ve copped the decision on my many chins," said Dunning.

"I obviously would have liked no weeks but I had a fair hearing and one week is a fair punishment."

Elsom received a stiffer sentence for joining the altercation which involved two Bulls&#39; players who will face the tribunal on Tuesday.

"I expected to be suspended but extremely disappointed that the incident took place," said Elsom.

The HSBC Waratahs will arrive in Sydney on Monday.


4 weeks ...Thats Bull****! Dunning was king hit from behind by that fat f***k Engels and Rocky was just sticking up for his mate when he started pounding on that ugly yarps melon head.

Bull
26-02-06, 01:22 PM
:lol2tn:

:wall:

Arrogant f***ing idiot!

The TRUTH
26-02-06, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Bull@Feb 27 2006, 01:22 AM
:lol2tn:

:wall:

Arrogant f***ing idiot!
great post ******** :bravo:

http://www.politicsforum.org/images/humour/stfu.jpg

Bull
26-02-06, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!+Feb 26 2006, 03:25 PM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Bull@Feb 27 2006, 01:22 AM
:lol2tn:

:wall:

Arrogant f***ing idiot!
great post ******** :bravo:

http://www.politicsforum.org/images/humour/stfu.jpg [/b]
Same to you, numerous posts that is!

Wildwil
26-02-06, 05:49 PM
Incase you missed it. We are missing something like 5 key players so bye bye asshole

sanzar
26-02-06, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Wildwil@Feb 27 2006, 04:49 AM
Incase you missed it. We are missing something like 5 key players so bye bye asshole
Which ones?

aussie1st
26-02-06, 09:19 PM
Things just get worse and worse for the Tahs. Elsom has really come of age this year. I hope the Tahs pick someone other than Hollies at 6 cause I don&#39;t feel he is a number 6.

Serge
26-02-06, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by sanzar+Feb 27 2006, 10:05 AM-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Wildwil@Feb 27 2006, 04:49 AM
Incase you missed it. We are missing something like 5 key players so bye bye asshole
Which ones? [/b]
Not a fan of the Bulls but I can still name 3 missing:

Gary Botha
Victor Matfield
Guthro Steenkamp

All Springboks

Dumbo
26-02-06, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@Feb 27 2006, 01:19 AM
4 weeks ...Thats Bull****! Dunning was king hit from behind by that fat f***k Engels and Rocky was just sticking up for his mate when he started pounding on that ugly yarps melon head.
Thats how it looked to me as well, I guess that if they both have been suspended and the Saffa&#39;s havn&#39;t then Dunning and Rocky where in the wrong.
Just a observation though... has anyone else noticed that the Bulls front row looks like those prison gay boys in American History ex? not that i&#39;m calling them fags or nothing, it&#39;s just like wooow look at that...

Groen_en_Goud
27-02-06, 04:38 AM
Well Done Bulls!!! Looking promising even without some of your Springbok stars. B)

Wildwil
27-02-06, 01:27 PM
Yes Guthro Steenkamp,Victor Matfield,Gary Botha,Richard Bands all springboks and also some others

Dumbo
01-03-06, 04:54 AM
Engels, Wasserman banned
Tuesday February 28 2006

The Bulls will be without the services of forwards, prop Jaco Engels and loose forward Johan Wasserman, for the next few weeks. Both were suspended after being found guilty of striking opponents during the Super 14 Round Three match against the Waratahs in Pretoria last Saturday.

Two weeks: Johan Wasserman

Engels was suspended for three weeks by a SANZAR judicial hearing in Johannesburg on Tuesday, while Wasserman was banned for two weeks for his part of an incident during the match - won 26-17 by the Bulls..

This follows after two Waratah players - flank Rocky Elsom (four weeks) and prop Matt Dunning (one week) - were also banned for their part in the fighting which marred last Saturday&#39;s encounter. Elsom has subsequently filed an appeal for the penalty imposed against him.

While the two Waratah players appeared before a hearing on Sunday, in order to join their teammates on a flight back home later in the day, the Bulls players only appeared before the judicial hearing on Tuesday.

The SANZAR Disciplinary Committee on Tuesday comprised of Nape Dlamo (Chairman), Boela van der Merwe and advocate Max Baer.

Wasserman deliberated that he attempted to clean an opponent from a ruck.

Whilst Engels admitted to the charge, he added that he sprung to the defence of his team-mate who at the time, was involved in a scuffle with an opponent on the ground.

After careful consideration of all the evidence, including clear video evidence of the incident, and submissions made on behalf of the players, the committee found that the two players were clearly guilty of the offence.

The double suspension on Tuesday brings the total number of bans for Week Three of the Super 14 to six.

The latest bans mean Engels will miss two matches and Wasserman just one.

The Bulls have a bye this week. They face the Highlanders in Week Five - a game both players will miss - and the Hurricanes a week later, when Wasserman will be back but Engels still on the sideline.

When the Bulls head to Australia in Week Seven, where they will face the Western Force in Perth, both players will be available again.

* The loss of Engels and Wasserman will be partly offset by the return of Springboks Victor Matfield (lock and the Bulls&#39; first choice captain) and hooker Gary Botha (hooker).

While Bulls coach Heyneke Meyer will be disappointed to have lost the services of Engels and Wasserman, he will welcome the return of his two senior stars.

Matfield and Botha, who have been sidelined with knee injuries since pre-season games against the Cats and Sharks, will make their Super 14 debut against the Highlanders.

This in itself will bring about a big change to the Bulls&#39; competitiveness in the line-outs, set scrums and tight play.

Matfield&#39;s return will also mean that Fourie du Preez will be able to concentrate fully on his role as scrum-half after he also captained the side in the first three Super 14 matches.

Wessel Roux is likely to take over at loosehead prop from Engels, while Pedrie Wannenburg will replace Wasserman on the flank.

Meyer could even opt to include Pierre Spies, who returned to loose forward this year after playing on the wing for a season r two.

While Spies is still struggling to find his feet among the forwards, his obvious speed and skills make him a major attribute in a team where real ball fetchers among the loose forwards are a rarity.
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