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Melhor Time
07-04-12, 04:02 PM
How does the syetem work with promotion to the Aviva Premiership?

I gather that desptie doing really well Bristol may not even win promotion.

TRF_SelimNiai
07-04-12, 04:06 PM
Top 8 go into 2 pools of 4, play other sides home and away. Top of Pool 1 plays 2nd in pool 2 and vice versa in semi finals and winners play a 2-legged final.

Melhor Time
07-04-12, 07:51 PM
So will it be Bristol winning promotion?

TRF_SelimNiai
07-04-12, 07:54 PM
I bloody well hope so :lol:

We're 2nd in our group due to the fact we've drawn the last 2 home games. Got London Welsh next Sunday which is a big game. The next problem is that the RFU have said that only a few team have good enough stadia or the Premiership, us and I can't remember who else

Feicarsinn
07-04-12, 07:54 PM
Listen to TRF Podcast number two for all your RFU Championship info! ;)

welshglory
07-04-12, 07:56 PM
If they win. No other team in the playoffs can win promotion, because of facilities etc... If Bristol don't win then no one will be promoted or relegated

TRF_Hulkster
07-04-12, 08:06 PM
Year out of date but here are the cirteria requied for prootion: http://www.copthall-application.co.uk/Barnet%20Copthall/Appendix%20E%20-%20PGB%20Criteriax.pdf

Bedford and Cornish Pirates cannot be promoted. But there is some mystery over whether the rest can be promoted.

TRF_Olyy
07-04-12, 08:07 PM
Leeds can go up as well

LittleGuy
07-04-12, 08:29 PM
It's a shame about Bedford and Cornish not being able to be promoted there is actualy a chance they could win the RFU this year. Esher are going down, they cannot avoid relegation even with some games left in the relegation pool.

For my own Canadian interests at Esher I hope someone picks up Phil Mackenzie who was a stand out player even with a bad club, not sure where his brother Jamie will end up though.

TRF_Hulkster
21-04-12, 09:34 AM
I now gather only Bristol and Leeds could gain promotion to the Premiership, well according to John Taylor - http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/story/162939.html

cyRil
21-04-12, 09:36 AM
Can we not just put them in the final now and save everyone a lot of bother...?

Teh Mite
21-04-12, 09:45 AM
Promotion is decided by the Masons. Do you ****wits know nothing about rugby?

OT: Bedford would likely play in Luton or Milton Keynes if they finished top of the pile - Goldington rd is impossible to develop.

****s and giggles time: Rugby Lions reckon they will have and fill a 30,000 all seater stadium within 5 years...

TRF_SelimNiai
21-04-12, 10:02 AM
I now gather only Bristol and Leeds could gain promotion to the Premiership, well according to John Taylor - http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/story/162939.html

It really pishes me off this. Why cant the RFU, instead of just saying "no, your ground doesn't meet the criteria",actually get off their arses and actually help them make the grounds good enough. Or would that create chances for their friends clubs to get replaced.

Pretty sure if Wasps go down the RFU will decide the Mem isnt good enough to save their chums

Teh Mite
21-04-12, 10:08 AM
They may decide the Mem isn't good enough because Bris are only tenants in their own stadium. I heard whispers of some ruling about this a few years ago.

welshglory
21-04-12, 06:15 PM
It really pishes me off this. Why cant the RFU, instead of just saying "no, your ground doesn't meet the criteria",actually get off their arses and actually help them make the grounds good enough. Or would that create chances for their friends clubs to get replaced.

Pretty sure if Wasps go down the RFU will decide the Mem isnt good enough to save their chums

I don't think the RFU could help out 10 clubs Selim.

Getofmeland
21-04-12, 06:25 PM
Its called the RFU Championship, the best way the RFU could help the league and the development of Rugby in England is by getting a half decent sponsor, getting some TV Rights to it, 1 game a week on TV. Making the LV Pointless Cup, against Aviva and Championship, rather the English vs Welsh... Big Final at Twickenham, gives fans a big day out...

Tallshort
21-04-12, 07:39 PM
It really pishes me off this. Why cant the RFU, instead of just saying "no, your ground doesn't meet the criteria",actually get off their arses and actually help them make the grounds good enough. Or would that create chances for their friends clubs to get replaced.

Pretty sure if Wasps go down the RFU will decide the Mem isnt good enough to save their chums

Does Sales, Wasps or Newcastles ground fit the criteria? Just out of interest?

TRF_Olyy
21-04-12, 08:01 PM
Does Sales, Wasps or Newcastles ground fit the criteria? Just out of interest?
Yes to all.
Also Sales new ground does too.

Feicarsinn
21-04-12, 08:39 PM
The Rec isn't if I recall correctly.

Getofmeland
21-04-12, 08:46 PM
I think the Rec only qualifies due to the temporary stand, but hopefully the new stadium will resolve that, once they can sort out a deal...

TC08
27-04-12, 10:47 AM
Yes to all.
Also Sales new ground does too.

Really?

Not according to last year's criteria as posted above (extract from 3.4ii):

The PGB recognises that three Clubs currently playing in the Premiership namely
London Wasps, Saracens and London Irish may not currently meet the
Criteria relating to Primacy of Tenure

TC08
27-04-12, 10:56 AM
I now gather only Bristol and Leeds could gain promotion to the Premiership, well according to John Taylor - http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/story/162939.html

If you read JT's words carefully, he's not exactly saying that.....he's hopeful that, if LW win the Championship, we can put a case up that the RFU and PRL will agree to:

We therefore need a new home if we win the Championship. In the long term there are two options for completely new stadiums but whilst they are being developed we have no option but to ground-share as do London Irish, Wasps, Saracens and Sale in the Premiership. But it is not that simple - they have longstanding exemptions from the primacy of tenure regulations - we have to convince the RFU and Premiership Rugby that it is in their best interests to allow us to join them.

I wonder if his optimism is well-founded?