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Dumbo
03-04-06, 06:10 AM
Well then… the Blues (11th on the ladder) take on the Stormers (10th). Stormers won last week by the slimmest of margins whilst the Blues took it to the Bulls.
Crucial to this game is selection… Lavea has made no friends at all…

Ripper
03-04-06, 06:34 AM
Hopefully the Backline will be something along the lines of :

9. Senio
10. Nacewa
11. Rocokoko
12. McAlister
13. Tuitavakie
14. Howlett
15. Brent "Better then Dumbo" Ward

Dumbo
03-04-06, 07:06 AM
Easy tiger... but yup agree that’s the backline I'm hoping to see.
Has there been any rumours of McAllwayshurt being back from injury?

sambĂŁd5
03-04-06, 07:38 AM
mcallister has recovered from his broken jaw, but noosie doesnt want to rush him back into the lineup because oh his lack of game-time/fittness. tuituvaki however, has had a colision with a goal post, and will most likely miss the match. macdonald is out injured, and braid is also still on the injury list.

most likely, you will see 10) mcallister/necawa 11)rokococo 12)necawa/mcallister, 13) tupoki, 14) howlett/mr W 15 ward.

Dumbo
03-04-06, 07:40 AM
Rua at 13? yup... would like to see that.

Kimmy_The_Kiwi
03-04-06, 09:29 AM
Hmm..ima pick the blues for this one...it'll be a close game.

SaintsFan_Webby
03-04-06, 11:31 AM
Any news on the Stormers team yet?

I'd back them to win by 7.

Stormer
04-04-06, 12:09 AM
I would go same as last week with maybe Joe van Niekerk starting at no.8 instead of Adri Badernhorst.

woosaah
04-04-06, 01:01 AM
yeah go the stormers

Dumbo
04-04-06, 10:29 AM
Go the Blues... if they win this one and Lavea isn't playing at 1st5 then he may be out for good. If that happens then the Blues could be a player towards the end of the competition.

Don't underestimate the Blues... there's a lot of talent in that side, a lot.

esoj
05-04-06, 06:24 AM
well braid howlett and macdonald are all out for the blues. macAlister might be back but not confirmed yet.

in training nacewa was at 10 rua at second five and macAlister was in the opposing group.

info take from http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/488120/695699


I think the blues will just be too good again and should win this fairly easily

Rassie
05-04-06, 06:29 AM
Stormers lost all their home games (well, they have a draw but in `point` terms it`s a defeat, you can have 2 points even if you lose ) but they won vs Cats at Ellis and vs Western Force !

I think it will be a close call ! Being a SA team i`ll pick them to win!

Dumbo
06-04-06, 06:39 AM
Head to Head:
Blues: 1 - Tony Woodcock, 2 - Kevin Mealamu (Captain), 3 - John Afoa, 4 - Greg Rawlinson, 5 - Ali Williams, 6 - Troy Flavell, 7 - Onosai'i Tololima Auva'a, 8 - Nick Williams, 9 - John Senio, 10 - Isa Nacewa, 11 - Joe Rokocoko, 12 - Rua Tipoki, 13 - Anthony Tuitavake, 14 - Viliame Waqaseduadua, 15 - Brent Ward.
Reserves: 16 - Tim Dow, 17 - Saimonie Taumoepeau, 18 - Kurtis Haiu, 19 - Regan Tamihere, 20 - Junior Poluleuigaga, 21 - Luke McAlister, 22 - Ben Atiga.

Stormers: 1 - JD Moller, 2 - Hanyani Shimange, 3 - Eddie Andrews, 4 - Andries Bekker, 5 - Gerrie Britz, 6 - Luke Watson, 7 - Schalk Boof Burger, 8 - Adri Badenhorst, 9 - Bolla Conradie, 10 - Naas Olivier, 11 - Marius Joubert, 12 - Jean De Villiers, 13 - De Wet Barry (Captain), 14 - Tonderai Chavhanga, 15 - Joe Pietersen.
Reserves: 16 - Schalk Brits, 17 - Neil Fullard, 18 - Henk Eksteen, 19 - Joe Van Niekerk, 20 - Neil De Kock, 21 - Peter Grant, 22 - Jongi Nokwe.
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Woohoo... Lavea didn't even make the bench!

The TRUTH
06-04-06, 06:49 AM
Dumbo where do you get your team lineups from?

I cant decipher half the dribble on the SA sites ....... so i find it hard to get there lineups

Dumbo
06-04-06, 07:01 AM
From allblacks.com, only problem is they only focus in on Kiwi's sides.
For the others I go to planetrugby.com, it's a bit of a **** around cause you they don't list it head to head (just got to bring both teams up and copy and paste)

Ripper
08-04-06, 08:05 AM
Now can I safely call Truth an idiot for saying that all the Force backs were better then Nacewa?

nik
08-04-06, 09:38 AM
Nacewa is one of the most quality players in the blues squad and the most valuable...i dont know why wayne pivac doesnt select him to play for fiji....
if nacewa was eligible for the allblacks then henry would have selected him and their would be no need to develop isaih toeava....

Wally
08-04-06, 09:44 AM
I thought Nacewa played fullback for the All Blacks on the end of season tour last year?

nik
08-04-06, 09:52 AM
nope....nacewa played a few minutes for fiji in last the world cup...

it was isiah toeava who played for the allblacks at FB against scotland last year

Dumbo
08-04-06, 10:55 AM
Interesting game... Fiji could have a serious 1st5... that’s gonna be real good for the islands...

Number 6 is interesting.... keen, strong, hungry but the discipline thing...
Flavell really must be in contention for the All Black 6 jersey... If any ones been watching Collins of late will now that he's been not 110% of his normal self...

Can Flavell play lock?

The TRUTH
08-04-06, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Ripper@Apr 8 2006, 08:05 PM
Now can I safely call Truth an idiot for saying that all the Force backs were better then Nacewa?
Umm no

I still stand by what i said that "i would rather have Higendorf,Mackay,Pelesasa,Ioane,Staniforth and Henjak over Nacewa anyday".


When you get Howlett back from injury Nacewa should go back to the bench

your best backline...

9.Devine
10.Mcalister
11.Roco
12.Tipoke(impressive lately)
13.Tuitavake
14.Howlet
15.Ward

Ripper
08-04-06, 08:02 PM
haha, Brilliant.

Nacewa has had 2 good games in a row, more which could be said for the Entire Force Backline.

esoj
09-04-06, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by Wally@Apr 8 2006, 10:44 PM
I thought Nacewa played fullback for the All Blacks on the end of season tour last year?
you would be completely wrong. he played for fiji in the last world cup which you must have missed as well.

toeva is the guy that played fullback

nacewa had another good game alright and showed more skill than the entire force backline has showen the whole year.

hard to say what will happen when dougie comes back but at worst nacewa would be on the bench.

Flavell was on fire one silly moment in the game but he is in red hot form. He can play lock yes but his best chance at the abs would be at 6. jack and williams are shoe ins for starting locks in the abs.

on the actual game not to bad by the blues. got the 4 tries and the win which is what was needed. some bad handling errors though and some slack work at the breakdown at times. considering though that some of the first choice guys are out was still a good result.

and how good is rua tipoki. he carved everyone up in the npc and now he is doing it at the next level in super 14. he has all the skills for a 12 and imo deserves a crack at the spot in the abs. he has stiff competition from mauger though who is playing really well atm.

Ripper
09-04-06, 03:58 AM
If Tipoki wasn't on the the wrong side of 30 and a risk of breaking both of his hands in fights during matches he wasn't meant to be playing... I mean, breaking both his hands in "weight training" he would be in the All Blacks. Although I still think he needs to stop being a ball hog, and while he had that one good kick, he needs to not kick as much, leave that for Nacewa or McAlister.

Although with McAlister appearing to not have lost any spark, the backline I would like too see :

9. Senio (Canterbury poached the wrong one)
10. McAlister
11. Rocokoko
12. Tipoki
13. Tuitavakie
14. Howlett
15. Brent "Still better then Dumbo" Ward

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
09-04-06, 04:29 AM
gud ol hiding in the end....

see everyone!!!

life is better without tasesa lavea

on the necewa note..he is not 1st 5 of class,hes a 12 or 13 who can cover every backline position with confidence...

i was watching the replay and im astounded by the talent we have...once mcalister stamps his name on the 10 jersey and forever hold it then the future of auckland rugby will grow to its peaks again...if only we kept nick evans aye :D


Interesting game... Fiji could have a serious 1st5... that’s gonna be real good for the islands...
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nope...nicky little is a world class 1st 5,he is the best fijian 10 they got...but with necewa outside him at 12 with rabeni at centre and caucau,bobo and norman ligiari as back 3 they will have possibly the most potent backline in the world

but the forwards really suck on the technical aspects of the set pieces

TROY FLAVELL IS BACK IN THE ABS LADIES N GENTS

sambĂŁd5
09-04-06, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Ripper@Apr 9 2006, 03:58 PM
If Tipoki wasn't on the the wrong side of 30 and a risk of breaking both of his hands in fights during matches he wasn't meant to be playing... I mean, breaking both his hands in "weight training" he would be in the All Blacks.
:lol:

yeah i wouldnt want to be in the blues selectors shoes come full fitness of mcallister and howlett.

i would like to see

10) necawa
11) joe
12) mcallister
13) tupoki
14) howlett
15) ward

reason: look at the allbacks centre problem at the moment now umaga is out and smith is injured. do you really want a mauger/nonu midfeild? at the end of the game yes. but i cant see them as a 80min partnership. just imagine how a 10: carter, 12:mcallister 13: topuki then subbed for nonu. that would carve up anyone. just remember, 12 is mcallisters prefered position. wheather hes better at 10 is a diffrent story.

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
09-04-06, 11:08 AM
tipoki..i believe is in contention for that midfield spot in the abs...he has been in that position years ago jus does some really stupid things off the field that stops everything gud for him...