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Dumbo
18-04-06, 12:46 AM
Sharks (ranked equal 6th) take on the Blues (also ranked 6th equal) at home. The Sharks took out the lowly Catís last week and the Blues took out the equally lowly Force.
The Sharks have a good chance here as the Blues have had a long way to travel for this game plus they will be missing their standard 2nd5.
I think that the Blues will have no problem restructuring their backline however and will take this one out.

Ripper
18-04-06, 01:13 AM
Blues by 11

Groen_en_Goud
18-04-06, 03:40 AM
This will be a very close game. The Sharks are the form RSA team at the moment, and building momentum. The Blues are on a roll as well. However, the Sharks are back in familiar territory and this will allow them to focus more. I sense that they will get a largish size crowd to the game.

Sharks by 7 points.

However, if the Sharks decide to keep Adrian Jacobs in the Starting XV, Blues may well getter closer and possibly win. His performance against the Cats last weekend should be enough to see him get dropped.

The TRUTH
18-04-06, 04:53 AM
I reckon the Sharks will win this one by 14..........there forwards should dominate.

Dumbo
18-04-06, 05:06 AM
Personally I wouldn't put money on that Truth until the Blues finalise their selection. I'd rate the Bulls to have one of the strongest forwards packs in the comp and Blues got through them...

The TRUTH
18-04-06, 05:11 AM
Sharks forwards have really impressed me this year.......there much better than the Bulls.

The Blues are without Tipoki,Flavell and Joe, they have to travel ....... i think the Sharks will be too strong, there the best SA team by a mile.

Dumbo
18-04-06, 05:19 AM
I don't think that Tipoki will be hard to replace (they'll most probably go with McAllwayshurt and Nacewa combo) and on the wings though they have Waqaseduadua and Howlett to go with.

Flavell however will be a BIG issue, maybe they could put Lavea in as blind side flanker (and hope he breaks his kneck)... but agree that for the Blues to replace Flavell is going to be an issue. Think they'll go for that long haired idiot to replace him.

Ripper
18-04-06, 05:38 AM
Haiu? f*** off.

Tight 5 is preety much set

6. Kaino
7. Braid
8. Williams

9. Senio

10. Nacewa/McAlister
11. Rocokoko
12. McAlister/Nacewa
13. Tuitavakie
14. Howlett if back (Wasa if not)
15. Brent Ward

McAlister is a better Fly Half than Nacewa, but he could be lethal with the extra space at 12, and IMO is a better defender and more likely to break the line similar to how Tipoki did... and the more time he gets at 12, the more chances he will finally displace Mauger there at All Black level.

Groen_en_Goud
18-04-06, 05:40 AM
The Sharks forwards dominated the Reds, and the Reds pack dominated the Bulls. Everyone keeps talking up the Bulls pack, yet they have been below par all year, and failed on a lot of occasions to live up to the hype.

BJ Botha (tighthead), has really impressed all season for the Sharks. If he keeps up his form, he should get very close to Springbok Squad selection.

Dumbo
18-04-06, 05:40 AM
Wahooo, forgot about Kaino... whatís this about Rocco though... Truth reckons he's out?

Ripper
18-04-06, 05:42 AM
Probably, his body at times seems like its made out of wire.

Just did a quick google, can't find anything on it though.

Dumbo
18-04-06, 05:50 AM
Haven't heard anything either... Truth defend yourself...

The TRUTH
18-04-06, 06:05 AM
I just assumed he was out as he limped off the field last week with what looked like a hamstring injury.

Dumbo
18-04-06, 06:11 AM
It would be a shame if he was out... Rocco has always played well in SA.

Has anyone heard what's happening with Bernie?

Ripper
18-04-06, 06:15 AM
Brumbies sweat on Larkham's injury
Monday April 17 2006
'I thought our communication really let us down'
The Brumbies face the very real prospect of having to play the remainder of the Super 14 season without star playmaker Stephen Larkham after it was confirmed on that he had torn a hamstring in his team's 37-14 loss to the Waratahs in Sydney on Sunday.


The Brumbies had raced into an early 14-6 lead, but seemed to lose their way after Larkham left the field in the first half - with the Waratahs then scoring 31 unanswered points.

The Brumbies will know the full extent of Larkham's injury after further tests on Monday.

Coach Laurie Fisher acknowledged the role Larkham plays and what a serious blow his absence will be.

"To lose the guy who really steers you around the park was a body blow for us," Fisher said. "And we didn't get the rub of the green, but the side on the front foot generally gets those advantages."

Brumbies captain Stirling Mortlock echoed similar sentiments.

"I thought our communication really let us down in the second half," Mortlock said.

"Losing Stephen early in the match didn't help us, but we really let ourselves down by making too many errors in the second half, compared to the Waratahs who hardly made any throughout the match."[/b]

http://www.planet-rugby.com/Tournaments/Su...ory_50464.shtml (http://www.planet-rugby.com/Tournaments/Super_12/story_50464.shtml)

The TRUTH
18-04-06, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by Ripper@Apr 18 2006, 02:15 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Brumbies sweat on Larkham&#39;s injury
Monday April 17 2006
&#39;I thought our communication really let us down&#39;
The Brumbies face the very real prospect of having to play the remainder of the Super 14 season without star playmaker Stephen Larkham after it was confirmed on that he had torn a hamstring in his team&#39;s 37-14 loss to the Waratahs in Sydney on Sunday.


The Brumbies had raced into an early 14-6 lead, but seemed to lose their way after Larkham left the field in the first half - with the Waratahs then scoring 31 unanswered points.

The Brumbies will know the full extent of Larkham&#39;s injury after further tests on Monday.

Coach Laurie Fisher acknowledged the role Larkham plays and what a serious blow his absence will be.

"To lose the guy who really steers you around the park was a body blow for us," Fisher said. "And we didn&#39;t get the rub of the green, but the side on the front foot generally gets those advantages."

Brumbies captain Stirling Mortlock echoed similar sentiments.

"I thought our communication really let us down in the second half," Mortlock said.

"Losing Stephen early in the match didn&#39;t help us, but we really let ourselves down by making too many errors in the second half, compared to the Waratahs who hardly made any throughout the match."

http://www.planet-rugby.com/Tournaments/Su...ory_50464.shtml (http://www.planet-rugby.com/Tournaments/Super_12/story_50464.shtml) [/b][/quote]
I just posted an updated story on the Brumbies/Canes thread

4-6 weeks they say

Rassie
18-04-06, 07:36 AM
Tough call. Who`s going to lose can kiss any hope to reach the semis good bye! IMO Sharks have the edge, close edge but still i think they are favorites in this game.

They have the home ground advantage (Blues fail to produce smth extra in the away games), are on their best form so far and can pull this through.

It will be very close and in theory it`s everybody game! Looking forward to see this!

Sharks to win if you ask me by less than 7 points !

esoj
19-04-06, 06:27 AM
could go either way but i think the blues can win in a close one. I don&#39;t think the sharks will dominate the blues pack at all. the blues have showen that their pack this year is very good and can match anyone in the comp with it.

joe went off with a calf injury and had it iced as a pre-caution. he will proabbly be fit I think othwerwise wasa or dougie will take his spot. either mcAlister or nacewa will play for sure with the other one playing 10. that I think will be a lethal combination and will cause the sharks lots of problem with the likes of tutivake dougie ward joe and wasa to finish things off.

blue by 1-12

Groen_en_Goud
20-04-06, 09:22 AM
Interesting that you say that esoj, I think it could well come down to the forwards. But I think it will be a closer battle in the forwards than most people would think.

BLUES side to face the Sharks

15. Brent Ward
14. Doug Howlett
13. Anthony Tuitavake
12. Isa Nacewa
11. Joe Rokocoko
10. Luke McAlister
9. John Senio
8. Nick Williams
7. Daniel Braid
6. Anthony Boric
5. Ali Williams
4. Greg Rawlinson
3. John Afoa
2. Keven Mealamu ©
1. Tony Woodcock

16. Tim Dow
17. Saimone Taumoepeau
18. Jerome Kaino
19. Onosai&#39;I Tololima-Auava&#39;a
20. Junior Poluleuligaga
21. Ben Atiga
22. Viliame Waqaseduadua

The TRUTH
20-04-06, 09:33 AM
I hope the Sharks start Pieterson on the wing and i&#39;d also like to see Barritt get a start......they both look like future stars

I wouldn&#39;t underestimate the Sharks backs if i was a Blues fan..... they got some classy players.

esoj
20-04-06, 10:12 AM
they are good but then look at the blues backs I know which backs i would have. if the blues can get enough ball for mcAlister to use then the blues should be able to win this in a close game. I can&#39;t really see the blues forwards getting smashed so badly that thereisn&#39;t enough ball for the backs to cut loose with. still sharks at home anything can hapen

Dumbo
20-04-06, 10:54 AM
Anyone heard the odds on this one?

Groen_en_Goud
20-04-06, 12:02 PM
Odds betting wise..

TAB Sportsbet

Blues to win $2.20 for every $1 bet
Sharks to win $1.60 for every $1 bet

Groen_en_Goud
20-04-06, 12:16 PM
SHARKS to play the Blues

15. Percy Montgomery
14. Odwa Ndungane
13. Adrian Jacobs
12. Andries Strauss
11. Cedric Mkhize
10. Tony Brown
9. Ruan Pienaar
8. AJ Venter
7. Jacques Botes
6. Warren Britz
5. Johann Muller
4. Johan Ackermann
3. BJ Botha
2. John Smit (Captain)
1. Deon Carstens

Reserves
16. Bismarck du Plessis
17. Heinke van der Merwe
18. Albert van den Berg
19. Keegan Daniel
20. Scott Mathie
21. Bradley Barritt
22. Brent Russell


History:

2005: Blues 36-20 Sharks
2004: Sharks 26-37 Blues (I was at this game)
2003: Blues 25-16 Sharks
2002: Sharks 20-13 Blues
2001: Blues 27-41 Sharks
2000: Sharks 19-30 Blues
1999: Blues 6-12 Sharks
1998: Sharks 24-8 Blues
1997: Blues 55-36 Natal (Semi)
1997: Blues 39-17 Natal
1996: Blues 45-21 Natal (Final)
1996: Natal 23-30 Blues

courtesy of www.sharksrugby.co.za

Rassie
20-04-06, 01:27 PM
So, Dumbo, have you seen the odds? Place your bet :D

Dumbo
20-04-06, 11:34 PM
Head to Head:
Sharks: 1 - Deon Carstens, 2 - John Smit (captain), 3 - BJ Botha, 4 - Johan Ackermann, 5 - Johann Muller, 6 - Warren Britz, 7 - Jacques Botes, 8 - AJ Venter, 9 - Ruan Pienaar, 10 - Tony Brown, 11 - Cedric Mkhize, 12 - Andries Strauss, 13 - Adrian Jacobs, 14 - Odwa Ndungane, 15 - Percy Montgomery.
Reserves: 16 - Bismarck du Plessis, 17 - Heinke van der Merwe, 18 - Albert van den Berg, 19 - Keegan Daniel, 20 - Scott Mathie, 21 - Bradley Barritt, 22 - Brent Russell

Blues: 1 - Tony Woodcock, 2 - Keven Mealamu (Captain), 3 - John Afoa, 4 - Greg Rawlinson, 5 - Ali Williams, 6 - Anthony Boric, 7 - Daniel Braid, 8 - Nick Williams, 9 - John Senio, 10 - Luke McAlister, 11 - Joe Rokocoko, 12 - Isa Nacewa, 13 - Anthony Tuitavake, 14 - Doug Howlett, 15 - Brent Ward.
Reserves: 16 - Tim Dow, 17 - Saimone Taumoepeau, 18 - Jerome Kaino, 19 - Onosai&#39;i Tololima-Auava&#39;a, 20 - Junior Poluleuligaga, 21 - Ben Atiga, 22 - Viliame Waqaseduadua.
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Looking at the Stats it looks like it&#39;s the Sharks turn to win (how&#39;s those stats! it&#39;s like ok we one last time so tis time you can win...).

Expect to see a hell of a battle in the front row (quality players on both sides) as well as a good match up with the locks (Ali needs to step up to show the AB selectors that he&#39;s still hungry). Think the Sharks lose forwards have the edge here (no Flavell and Kaino&#39;s starting on the bench).

The backline though I&#39;m going for the Blues (and only slightly at that).
If the Sharks try a rushed defence approach they&#39;ll get cleaned up by the Blues 10 and 12 for sure... I think for the Sharks to win this one then defence will not be enough... they have find the Blues weakness and attack (finding that weakness though will be interesting - one area will be in the loose forwards I reackon... bet Ventor will be looking to have a crack aty the line).

Dumbo&#39;s going for the Blues by +9 (best of luck to the sharks though and lets hope for a quality game) due to the Sharks rushing the the Blues and McAlistair kicking over the top.

esoj
21-04-06, 02:11 AM
forward battle will be interesting. the sharks have some quality players in their team but the blues isn&#39;t bad either. I don&#39;t think either pack will really domiante the other and push them around. the key will be in the backs and that is where i see the blues miles ahead. the sharks will have to play well to contain the blues backs and get plenty of ball for their own backs to do score some points.

looking at the history it seems the games are often highscoring sometime only a few tries between the teams as well. I would be expecting more of the same with the blues backs proving the difference

The TRUTH
22-04-06, 01:36 PM
I&#39;ve said it time and time again ..... Ruan Peinaar needs to be the Springbok #9

The kid is phenomenal and will add alot to team that is not known for there attacking rugy........he&#39;s also the tallest bloody scrumhalf i think i&#39;ve ever seen.

du Preez is a solid half-back but Peinaar has that X-factor that can change a match in an instant.

Anyway 12-5 Go Sharks!!

The TRUTH
22-04-06, 01:53 PM
Halftime 20-5 Sharks........it&#39;s just too easy for them atm.

sanzar
22-04-06, 03:01 PM
Wow! Sharks really ****** on the Blues didn&#39;t they! So much for all that talk from the aucklander mob...
Well this caps off my worst week of Tipping in S14 this year...

The TRUTH
22-04-06, 03:13 PM
Well....that was an owning, 32-15.......bonus point to the Sharks keeps there semi final chances alive.

The Sharks forwards just monstered the Blues all match, McAlister played a Lavea type game and Nacewa was smashed every time he got the ball......... Ward was really the only decent player for the Blues.

M.O.T.M = Pienaar ,dont know why they benched him so ealy in the second half.

Ripper
22-04-06, 08:15 PM
Just as I keep saying.

We always miss out because of a late season choke job against a South African team.

esoj
22-04-06, 11:09 PM
so true. especially after recent times where the starts to the seaons have not been good.

Dumbo
23-04-06, 03:25 AM
Sad day for Kiwi&#39;s when the best New Zealander on the day is playing for the opposition.... Shame on you Blues, shame on you

BOKean
23-04-06, 06:49 AM
Great win for the sharks!

AJ Venter, Ruan Pienaar, Monty and BJ Botha are looking like good selections for the bok squad. even jon smit is playing pretty well these days...

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
23-04-06, 10:09 AM
hmmm not good..15 points left for the blues to get..if they want it

samb√£d5
23-04-06, 10:27 AM
f*** you lavea. f*** you.

Groen_en_Goud
24-04-06, 12:42 AM
Great win by the Sharks. :cheers: See Bulls??? That&#39;s how you beat the Blues. Bokean, "maak die Haaie almal Bokke" ;)


Bring on the Bulls, BRING IT ON :rahh: