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rugged
13-05-06, 09:30 AM
So this is how it ends.

I hear it is very serious.

Wendell has been partying hard.

Poor Wendell *sniff, *sniff.

esoj
13-05-06, 09:51 AM
as I said in the waratahs v hurricanes thread heard a rumour that it could be to do with a prohibited drug.

loratadine
13-05-06, 10:05 AM
well lets be honest, he doesnt look like the incredible hulk by doing exercise.

Kimmy_The_Kiwi
13-05-06, 12:22 PM
Apparantly he's being doing cocaine..

His career could be over.

I cant say i feel sorry for him, he knows what he is getting into <_<

Bullitt
13-05-06, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au
Tahs sack Wendell Sailor

May 13, 2006

NSW Waratahs Wendell Sailor has been stood down for tonight&#39;s crucial Super 14 match against the Hurricanes at Aussie Stadium for an alleged serious breach of the ARU Code of Conduct.

NSWRU says it is legally bound by confidentiality requirements and is unable to elaborate on the alleged breach at this time.

Sailor has been stood down indefinitely pending a full investigation.

The winner of the pivotal last-round encounter between the second-placed Waratahs and the third-placed Hurricanes will secure the home-ground advantage for next Saturday night&#39;s sudden-death semi-final between the two teams.

The Crusaders will play either the Sharks or the Bulls in the first semi-final in Christchurch on Friday night after clinching the minor premiership last night with a 33-3 victory over the Brumbies.


Ha! Owned!

esoj
13-05-06, 10:04 PM
yep it indeed a positive drugs test result

this from tvnz http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/713731

THE CHIROPRACTOR101
14-05-06, 12:35 AM
ahhh..bloody aussies ay,ruining rugby league and rugby union

thanx alot you ******s

allblacksfreak
14-05-06, 06:49 AM
so... coke makes u run fast and hired by the tahs?
gonna get one...

Dumbo
14-05-06, 07:25 AM
Possible BIG shame on you Wendall, same on you.

I heard he was actualy testing drugs for the instiitution of sport. There&#39;s a pill you can take that makes you stop swinging from trees. :o

Candyman
14-05-06, 07:37 AM
I knew this was brewing after his little partying in SA

Bullitt
14-05-06, 09:49 AM
Thinking about it, if Sailor&#39;s a coke head, expect him to be the &#39;big&#39; signing for Wasps next season.

Him and Dayglo should get on like a house of fire...

ak47
15-05-06, 02:45 AM
IMO over 50% of professional sportsman take recreational drugs

just depends if u can mask ur urine or not

I guess Wendell let this one slip thru

I have a photo of Warne, that IS NOT just intoxication, and I have seen Joey Johns in a rather suspect state @ rediculous hrs

When ur jaws bigger than ur ears - u ask urself a few questions B)

For anyone that thinks these guys are true clean cut, by the book individuals, ur just kidding urselves.

Its rife in sport............its rife in society.........its a double standard...........when u look at rocks stars, kate moss, maradonna, randy moss etc

I aint defending him......but i aint going to crucify him, when there&#39;s other people in the world doing it for the name of fun

As far as I am concerned - if it aint performance enhancing he hasnt broken any tradional laws of the sport involved.........i know there are clauses in contracts, and there is a perceived level of responsibilty in sports stars to be role models.........but everyones human, and all humans have flaws, and i believe when it comes to doing something in ur personal life that isnt harming other people directly..........its ur own business, and not anyone else&#39;s.

BigTen
15-05-06, 05:21 AM
ak47,

The real issue is that Sailor broke the terms of his contract. Everyone knows that rugby players get random drug-testing and the players have to make a decision whether they will take the risk of getting caught. If they do get caught they know that they are looking at a big ban with the loss of income that comes with it.

If Sailor is guilty, and obviously the B sample will prove this if it is the case, then he has no one else to blame and it will be the end of his rugby career.

I don&#39;t think that it is a double standard. If my work had drug testing then I would either make a decision to look for another job or not take any drugs. I would know the rules and would accept the punishment if I took drugs and got caught.

The writing was on the wall for Sailor some months back and he apparently has not learnt from his mistakes.

A disappointing end to a player who showed, at times, that he was a class act. It is a loss to Australian rugby but it is time for the ARFU to cut their losses and start looking at developing their players rather than looking across at league.

ak47
15-05-06, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by BigTen@May 15 2006, 04:21 PM
ak47,

The real issue is that Sailor broke the terms of his contract. Everyone knows that rugby players get random drug-testing and the players have to make a decision whether they will take the risk of getting caught. If they do get caught they know that they are looking at a big ban with the loss of income that comes with it.

If Sailor is guilty, and obviously the B sample will prove this if it is the case, then he has no one else to blame and it will be the end of his rugby career.

I don&#39;t think that it is a double standard. If my work had drug testing then I would either make a decision to look for another job or not take any drugs. I would know the rules and would accept the punishment if I took drugs and got caught.

The writing was on the wall for Sailor some months back and he apparently has not learnt from his mistakes.

A disappointing end to a player who showed, at times, that he was a class act. It is a loss to Australian rugby but it is time for the ARFU to cut their losses and start looking at developing their players rather than looking across at league.
Yeah i know Bigten, and i agree to some extent

what i do not agree is the double standard of society, where our employment contracts have no clause of recreational drug use, but Sailors does.

Why should Kate Moss get her biggest contract of her career (post coke pics), and Sailor loses everything..........everthing.........post career employment, evertything........he will be a council worker.

yet kate moss goes and nabs her biggest contract, after photo&#39;s were published

wendell had it in his ****...........which is a test, potentially subject to errors, pending b test

its the public reaction that ****** me off..........
"oh sailor u bloody idiot" etc etc

Yet the rolling stones will always be legends

people have to wake up to the music, and the fact is recreational drugs, will always be around, it shouldnt be banned for some people and not others.........ie Sailor cant, coaches can?? (do they get tested??)

the ARU has the right to terminate his contract - its in its clause

the public have no right to ridicule him as an individual, when they go and pay $120.00 to concert tickets to 50+ yr olds, and scream and cry like lovesick fools, over a 5 piece coke ring, singing "I cant get no satisfaction"
after the concert, they go and buy merchandise, and the next day, go and buy the latest Kate Moss make-up pack, and rent a DVD with Robert Downy JNR.

Meanwhile arguably the greatest Soccer player in history, is sympathetically felt sorry for by the general world audience - TURN IT UP...THIS PLANET HAS ISSUES

But i do agree he has to go - we was aware - was just an idiot.......always has been dumb.........came from league FFS............free up 1 million and walk in GASNIER!!!!!.................another crazy idiot, that sends attractive SMS&#39; from benders in SOO camp, after going to the nightclub &#39;the icebox&#39; in Kings X.......yep he has a nice squeeky clean slate aswell........

ak47
15-05-06, 06:02 AM
kimmy the kiwis avatar/signature is very fitting in this topic

sanzar
15-05-06, 07:31 AM
Ak, you make a solid point, but I&#39;m sorta leading with BigTen on this one...
Sure movie stars, rocks stars, models etc get away with murder and are still loved for it, but they don&#39;t get random drug tests and there is nothing in their contracts that illustrate any sort of official code of conduct.
With Sailor and elite sports people there are though... And while I&#39;m not one of the people calling for Sailor&#39;s neck, I have to admit that it&#39;s pretty frustrating all the same. Here&#39;s a guy who&#39;s making big bucks playing the game he loves and is enough of a TV personality to have a life after football in the industry... then he could have snorted and drunk to his hearts content and not have to fear for anything but a police check... But he continuely got caught up in all sorts of off feild drama&#39;s and never learnt to take it easy! It had to have been bloody obvious to him that he should keep a lid on it for the last couple seasons of his playing career, but obviously the penny never dropped and he&#39;s had to pay the price.

Groen_en_Goud
15-05-06, 08:00 AM
So... White Line Fever finally takes it&#39;s toll on the Dell. Stupid Twit!

ak47
15-05-06, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by sanzar@May 15 2006, 06:31 PM
Ak, you make a solid point, but I&#39;m sorta leading with BigTen on this one...

i&#39;m not disagreeing with BigTen either

I just have problems with public perception inconsistencies, and random tests for substances that arent performance enhancing.

How bout they chuck KAVA on the banned list, and throw WIKI the book.

Cigarettes and alcohol kill more people, no ban on that, coz its not illegal, coz the govt would lose billions of dollars in taxes, if they prohibited it.

I smell tripe, and I bet u all every penny i have these directors on the boards of anti-doping bodies, have all had a little recreational fun in the past 2 years, whetehr it be weed, coke or whatever - yet chuck the book at the dell, coz they dont get tested

Meanwhile another 100m record gets closer to the impossible time of humanly running 100m unassisted, and no questions are raised

the whole anti-doping thing is a joke........like the salary cap.........its the ones that have avenues to avoid getting caught are the ones that survive the public scrutiny and are inducted into hall of fames........yet in reality, u would be dumb and niave to actually think they are good samaratens.

Now its time to read my book on J McEnroe :bleh!:

esoj
15-05-06, 09:24 AM
it may seem strange but the rules are the rules. Sailor seems to have broken them so must suffer the consquences.

rugged
16-05-06, 07:59 AM
I don&#39;t want someone that&#39;s representing my country at sports to be a dope head!!!

And I don&#39;t think the ARU should be paying good money for it either.

Plenty of workplaces have random drug tests and for good reason. The drug may not be performance enhancing but I&#39;m sure it can be performance detracting.

There have to be standards.

BigTen
18-05-06, 04:14 AM
Yeah ak47,

I enjoyed reading your post. You made some really good points about double-standards. But you&#39;re smart and you&#39;ve been around - I am sure that you know about lots of other double-standards that exist. They are just a part of life I guess.

The rugby administrators want certain things from their players and they want to portray their sport in a particular light so as to attract the right kind of attention. The attention that gets new players and corporate sponsorship.

The record labels want different things from their musicians. They want crazy attention - scandals, drugs, sex, anything that gets people talking, and more importantly buying their product.

Therefore that particular double-standard will always exist.

I feel for Wendell Sailor - I am not a vengeful person and even though I was never his biggest fan I know it must destroy him to know that his rugby career is about to end. He must also be feeling the pain of knowing that people that relied on him have been seriously let-down.

He must also be worried about his future and that of his family&#39;s future that are depending on him.

One mistake (okay a few I guess) and bang! His career ends. It does seem harsh but the alternative is far worse.

kinkon89
18-05-06, 12:14 PM
man that was embarassing for him...imagine him infront of his grandchildren..

"well..i retired from rugby..."

"how grandpa?"

"coke...i sniffed some cocaine."

well i would imagine kaftka in sailors shoes, when the media caught up with him.

"hmm its me wendell sailors brother..see i have hair!*"






*homers impersonation accent

kaftka
18-05-06, 12:34 PM
What in gods name are you talking about?

Black-Monday
19-05-06, 03:42 PM
Can I just say why Sailor&#39;s job should include drug testing, and why there seems to be double standards. As he is in a &#39;performance&#39; job, which entails performing at a high level. Also he is getting a lot of money for what he does and the money should be enough of a deterrent away from bad things.

However I feel there should be drug testing in all part&#39;s in all of society. Why should some High city lawyer who snorts lines on a night out get no punishment whatsoever. They are in a positon of power, so just because there job doesn&#39;t get testing, means they shouldn&#39;t be found out.

So I say to all those who are defending the man, if getting paid for playing the sport he is meant to love is not enough of deterrent from drugs. Then yes, he should be banned for life.

BM

rugged
19-05-06, 04:02 PM
I know someone in my spouse&#39;s company in America who failed a random drug test and was sacked. He was an executive.

allblacksfreak
19-05-06, 04:33 PM
Man..
wendell&#39;s a ******, enuff said...

QKXV
19-05-06, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Black-Monday@May 19 2006, 02:42 PM
Can I just say why Sailor&#39;s job should include drug testing, and why there seems to be double standards. As he is in a &#39;performance&#39; job, which entails performing at a high level. Also he is getting a lot of money for what he does and the money should be enough of a deterrent away from bad things.

However I feel there should be drug testing in all part&#39;s in all of society. Why should some High city lawyer who snorts lines on a night out get no punishment whatsoever. They are in a positon of power, so just because there job doesn&#39;t get testing, means they shouldn&#39;t be found out.

So I say to all those who are defending the man, if getting paid for playing the sport he is meant to love is not enough of deterrent from drugs. Then yes, he should be banned for life.

BM
Keep in mind that there are legal drugs out there as well. I&#39;m not condoning illegal drug taking, and of all people Sailor is the last person I would stand up for but having all people subject to drug testing is a bit harsh and hypocritical. Is a shaman taking Peyotl for spiritual purposes as bad as a drunk driver...or a smoker for that matter?

woosaah
09-06-06, 02:54 AM
Second positive drug test for Sailor
09 June 2006*
By JACQUELIN MAGNAY
Sydney Morning Herald

SYDNEY: The second of Wendell Sailor&#39;s urine samples has tested positive to the banned stimulant cocaine.


After a week of conjecture that there had been a problem with the testing process, sources have confirmed to the SMH that Sailor&#39;s B sample (the second half of the original urine sample provided on Easter Sunday) has mirrored the original cocaine result.

The former Wallabies winger was originally tested after playing for the NSW Waratahs against the Brumbies on April 16 and was informed of the positive A sample on May 12, the night before a crucial game against the Hurricanes. He subsequently missed the match.

The dual international will now have to accept the laboratory findings and face an automatic two-year career-ending suspension, or he can choose to fight the positive doping charge before a drugs tribunal.

The findings have dashed hope of Sailor, a former rugby league Test player, claiming there was a mistake in testing procedures.
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3695055a1823,00.html

just thought some people might like to know :) hope he goes to nfl that would be funny

Arnold Rimmer
09-06-06, 04:33 AM
As the song by Arrested Development (how appropriate) goes:


Mr Wendall.........ahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!! :lol:

Candyman
22-06-06, 06:21 AM
Well i thought it would be true but you know the old saying guilty until proven other wise

Bad luck wendell