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An Tarbh
15-11-07, 03:44 PM
<div align="center">http://www.therugbyforum.com/uploads/Gloucester.pngGloucester v Ospreyshttp://www.therugbyforum.com/uploads/Ospreys.png</div>

Both sides go into this game having recorded opening day wins so an excellent chance to put a stamp on this group early doors.

Gloucester bring in Marco Bortolami to replace Alex Brown who was ruled out with a shoulder injury in the only change to the starting lineup which so convincingly won at Ravenhill last Friday.

The Ospreys for their part bring in Mike Phillips at scrum half as coach Lyn Jones make 3 changes to the side which won against Bourgoin in Swansea. Jonathon Vaughton takes the place of Shane Williams while in the pack Jonathan Thomas replaces Alun Wyn Jones.

Gloucester: 15 Iain Balshaw; 14 James Simpson-Daniel, 13 Mike Tindall, 12 Anthony Allen, 11 Lesley Vainikolo, 10 Ryan Lamb, 9 Rory Lawson; 1 Nick Wood, 2 Olivier Azam, 3 Carlos Nieto, 4 Peter Buxton , 5 Marco Bortolami, 6 Alasdair Strokosch, 7 Akapusi Qera, 8 Luke Narraway. Replacements: 16 Andy Titterrell, 17 Christian Califano, 18 Will James, 19 Gareth Delve, 20 Mike Prendergast, 21 Chris Paterson, 22 Olly Morgan.

Ospreys: 15 Lee Byrne, 14 Nikki Walker, 13 Sonny Parker, 12 Gavin Henson, 11 Jonathan Vaughton, 10 James Hook, 9 Mike Phillips, 8 Filo Tiatia , 7 Marty Holah, 6 Jonathan Thomas, 5 Ian Evans, 4 Ian Gough, 3 Adam Jones, 2 Huw Bennett, 1 Duncan Jones.

Replacements: 16 Richard Hibbard, 17 Paul James, 18 Alun Wyn Jones, 19 Hale T-Pole, 20 Justin Marshall, 21 Shaun Connor, 22 Mark Taylor.

Cymrurugbyfan
15-11-07, 05:20 PM
If the Ospreys win this game, they should win the pool no-contest. If Gloucester win the match, they&#39;ll still need to go to the Liberty Stadium and record at least a draw (like Stade Francais last year) to remain on top of the pool. Good luck to the O&#39;s, although I believe Gloucester will win, given their extraordinary form at the moment.

danny
15-11-07, 07:04 PM
cant wait for this game. This game will either make or break our season in Europe. Cant see us winning at Swansea so we have to put some points on them. Think we can do it but Brown will be a big loss as hes our best lineout foward but Bortolami is not a bad replacement. Ozam is outstanding in open play but his throwing in is a joke at this level . Are Gough and Evans good enough to take advantage of it?

RC
15-11-07, 11:44 PM
While you believe Gloucester might have a terrible hooker throwing in, the Ospreys have Huw Bennet - also good around the field...also a joke when it comes to line outs.
This is going to be a very difficult match and i&#39;m hoping for a fast-flowing game with the big boys actually showing up and doing the hard work needed of them.
Hneson has been shining as of late, Mike Phillips is starting at 9 and that&#39;s a good thing becuase Marshall just likes playing his own game in his own position. Hook is also going to need to do his trademark breaks and provide the team with some quaity ball because Gloucester has some fine backs and they will be a huge threat come friday night.

dullonien
16-11-07, 09:55 AM
This should be an excellent game! I&#39;m backing the O&#39;s to pull off a win, loosing Shane is a big blow though.

Cymrurugbyfan
16-11-07, 07:29 PM
After a good start, a try by Sonny Parker, the Ospreys find themselves only 1 point ahead; 6-7. Needless penalties given away which were kicked by the brilliant Ryan Lamb has put Gloucester back into the game; there&#39;s still 60 minutes left for both sides to win!

Ironically, it&#39;s Parker who has made a serious claim for the Welsh shirt tonight compared to Henson. He&#39;s scored Ospreys two tries, 6 - 12.

SmokeyMonkey
16-11-07, 07:50 PM
Maybe you&#39;ve missed Henson&#39;s distribution then, sublime.

9-12 HT

Cymrurugbyfan
16-11-07, 08:00 PM
I didn&#39;t miss his distribution, I just felt Sonny&#39;s contributed more thus far.

noikz
16-11-07, 08:31 PM
Ospreys tries:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D84gVeVewKo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnUBwCwLSqg

SmokeyMonkey
16-11-07, 08:32 PM
Ospreys have thrown it away, ****ehouse defence has cost them, 26-18 now.

An Tarbh
16-11-07, 08:37 PM
Ospreys tries:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D84gVeVewKo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnUBwCwLSqg
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certainly the kiss of death from the commentator on that one, Gloucester much more organised in defence and Parker then eases through, he did show good strength but the Gloucester defence should have been a lot better for both efforts.

SmokeyMonkey
16-11-07, 08:43 PM
The Ospreys should be ashamed with those two tries they let in. Calling it &#39;bad defence&#39; is generous, it was no defence at all! :%#%#:

At least my prediction was relatively accurate, :rolleyes:

ikvat
16-11-07, 09:19 PM
I saw a summary of the match, it was very exiting as it seems.

redunderthebed
17-11-07, 03:29 AM
I watched a bit of this game it wasnt bad i&#39;m really impressed with the cherry and whites. :)

Incredible Schalk
17-11-07, 08:59 AM
Paterson keeping that 100% record :bravo:

Prestwick
17-11-07, 11:03 AM
For all of our bravado pre-match, at the Speights Ale House (secret code for "portacabin stolen from a building site in Duendin by Italian mobsters and shipped to London") myself, Tim (Webby) and Steve (IBB) were all saying the same thing (albeit in varying levels of drunkeness):

How did the Ospreys lose that match? Seriously, every time we were looking at the screen, the Ospreys were on the attack and putting pressure on Glaws and then we&#39;d turn away to chat for a second, turn back and see that the Cherry & Whites had piled yet another 3 to 7 points on the board! In the first half the Gloucester defence was shockingly bad, the amount of Gloucester players who fell off of Sonny Parker for both of his tries was staggering. Fair enough they managed to re-gather to actually make their tackles, but to stamp "well organised" on the Gloucester defence when taking into consideration how awful they were in the first half, that doesn&#39;t tell the whole story.

danny
17-11-07, 12:07 PM
I was at Kingsholm last night and must say it was a really exciting game. Full credit to the Ospreys for their 1st half effort.The level of play and physicality was a step up from anything I have seen in the Prem this year. Glos just couldnt keep the ball and seemed to try and run the ball without doing the donkey work first.2nd half was a different story and Glosters play was much more controlled and precise. The Ospreys fowards had put so much effort into the first half that most of them were walking by the end of the game.
My man of the match was Luke Naraway who was everywhere.
If either Glos or Ospreys win in Borgoin the pool will be won cos Glos will not win at the Liberty stadium

Cymrurugbyfan
17-11-07, 02:13 PM
It seems this pool will have two winners, Goucester could top the Pool if they beat Bourgoin home and away with a bonus point and then stop the Ospreys from scoring a bonus point against them in the Liberty Stadium. The Ospreys just have to do that and beat Bourgoin and they should be through on top. I wouldn&#39;t worry too much about Ulster, unless their new coach is some sort of genius.

shtove
17-11-07, 02:33 PM
Another stonking good match - anyone agree the HEC this season has stepped up a level?

Good to see Henson in form, and how&#39;s about Parker&#39;s hand off technique - he not only pushes the defender back, but pushes himself out wider in to more space. Disappointed in Tia Tia - how dumb is it for a captain to give the ref guff?

Gloucester won because they had better leadership, especially those last few minutes when they rumbled it about in the forwards.

That&#39;s the second good game in a week that this ref has allowed to flow.

Prestwick
17-11-07, 03:16 PM
It was a good match, love the fact that most matches have been high scoring so far!

TVH11
18-11-07, 07:29 PM
a very well contested match!!! full credit to Gloucester, they knew how to win that game. I hate it when my team is losing, and the other team just play close quarters rugby and retain the ball, u buggers!! haha. Ospreys really applied the pressure in first half, just couldn&#39;t break the line, there was that LITTLE spark missing (ala Shane Williams, not saying 1 man can make a difference, but can definetly help to breaking down defences). Nice to see Henson having a solid attacking game, although was tad lazy for 1st Gloucster, but can&#39;t totally blame him fr that!! Paterson is an absolute class act with the boot, i think that is a great buy for Gloucester. Well its gonna be a very interesting group, Liberty clash and away matches will be very interesting!!

SecondRow04
19-11-07, 08:41 PM
Vainikolo is impressing me every time i see him play, defensivley he was outstanding imo!! he brings quite a bit to this gloucester team, i tihnk they have the right balance to go all the way, both HC and GP!

stormmaster1
20-11-07, 09:48 AM
Vainikolo is impressing me every time i see him play, defensivley he was outstanding imo!! he brings quite a bit to this gloucester team, i tihnk they have the right balance to go all the way, both HC and GP! [/b]



is he fully fit. from what i&#39;ve heard he looks like he has more to give as so far he doesn&#39;t go looking for work as much and could get more involved in the tight game. if he isn&#39;t fully fit yet, then he could get seriously awesome.

danny
20-11-07, 04:32 PM
<div class='quotemain'> Vainikolo is impressing me every time i see him play, defensivley he was outstanding imo!! he brings quite a bit to this gloucester team, i tihnk they have the right balance to go all the way, both HC and GP! [/b]



is he fully fit. from what i&#39;ve heard he looks like he has more to give as so far he doesn&#39;t go looking for work as much and could get more involved in the tight game. if he isn&#39;t fully fit yet, then he could get seriously awesome.
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You are quite right when you say he doesnt look for work. I feel he is thinking about the basics all the time like his positioning so as not to make mistakes. As his confidence and awareness grows you will see more of him popping up in midfield and hopefully causing havoc.
To be fair to him the sight of him on the charge is something else,with his pace and sheer size.

stormmaster1
21-11-07, 08:42 AM
<div class='quotemain'>
<div class='quotemain'> Vainikolo is impressing me every time i see him play, defensivley he was outstanding imo!! he brings quite a bit to this gloucester team, i tihnk they have the right balance to go all the way, both HC and GP! [/b]



is he fully fit. from what i&#39;ve heard he looks like he has more to give as so far he doesn&#39;t go looking for work as much and could get more involved in the tight game. if he isn&#39;t fully fit yet, then he could get seriously awesome.
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You are quite right when you say he doesnt look for work. I feel he is thinking about the basics all the time like his positioning so as not to make mistakes. As his confidence and awareness grows you will see more of him popping up in midfield and hopefully causing havoc.
To be fair to him the sight of him on the charge is something else,with his pace and sheer size. [/b][/quote]



that&#39;s where the big wingers at Tigers have really come on. Tuilagi and Rabeni have always been good at beating defenders and causing havoc on the charge, but past season or so they have looked for more work. when playing well they pop up in midfield alot and join in the tight game with the forwards, driving round the fringes and hitting rucks. It can really make a difference, especially when the forwards are tiring late in the game.