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Stillknox
11-01-08, 12:11 PM
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7315/rugbynallet01hs6.jpg

Lionel Nallet
Lock, 31 years old. (from Castres Olympques.)

A true surprise. He did an excellent 6 Nations last year but wasn't even in the 22 squad in the World Cup, Laporte preferring Thion, the old Pelous and Chabal (although he is a Number 8...) to him.

What do you think ?

I thought it would be Elissalde or Jauzion, but i'm happy with it. He's a very good player, underestimated and he's also a good leader (he's already captain for Castres) but I'm not sure if he will be there in 4 years...

melon
11-01-08, 12:15 PM
Is Chabal going to start playing #8???

dundeesmiffy
11-01-08, 02:06 PM
i hope so, i prefer him at 8.
i feel like he loses a lot of potential with ball carrying in the tight five. usually he only manages a break after a few phases in the second row.
he's not a bad second row, just i prefer him at 8.
i would have thought thion would have been a shoe in for captain, no doubt someone will be 2 pence the poorer later down the page on either of these points.

melon
11-01-08, 03:49 PM
If Chabal had played 8 at the world cup, god knows how well they could have gone.

O'Rothlain
11-01-08, 03:56 PM
God, this is going to feel good...
CHABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

melon
11-01-08, 03:58 PM
And the Devoted Chabalists reunite....the mania has returned.

riders of the storm
11-01-08, 05:52 PM
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7315/rugbynallet01hs6.jpg

Lionel Nallet
Lock, 31 years old. (from Castres Olympques.)

A true surprise. He did an excellent 6 Nations last year but wasn't even in the 22 squad in the World Cup, Laporte preferring Thion, the old Pelous and Chabal (although he is a Number 8...) to him.

What do you think ?

I thought it would be Elissalde or Jauzion, but i'm happy with it. He's a very good player, underestimated and he's also a good leader (he's already captain for Castres) but I'm not sure if he will be there in 4 years... [/b]

Not a bad choice at all. It sticks with the French tradition really, having an old forward leading the side around like Abdel Benazzi, Fabien Pelous, Raphael Ibanez etc. Actually, I thought Thion would get the role, he lead them when Pelous was suspended in 2005...

Wynand
12-01-08, 06:51 AM
Who is this Nallet player? Never heard about him. What about Chabal for new french captain?? :cheers:

nam97
13-01-08, 04:46 AM
Yeah I'm shocked. I was 100% sure it woulda been Ellisalde. I know Nallet is a good player, f*** knows if he's a good leader or not though.

Mr.cyclopede
13-01-08, 06:35 PM
Well I think this is just to mark the change after Laporte's period. Elissade and also Mignoni have predispositions for the mission too.

Can't wait to see the orientation with the new team composition. Don't know exactly the spirit of Marc Lievremont but the presence of Emile N'tamack for the rear makes me hope good things.

Alexgorn
13-01-08, 06:41 PM
Nallet is a good captain in Castres Olympiques. I hope who will be to carry out the equipe for a new six nations win.

DonBilly
14-01-08, 09:43 AM
Yeah I'm shocked. I was 100% sure it woulda been Ellisalde. I know Nallet is a good player, f*** knows if he's a good leader or not though. [/b]

He's captain of his club the Castres Olympique, he knows the job.

An Tarbh
14-01-08, 12:55 PM
Ellisalde doesn't strike me as captain material, his form can be too hot and cold and is his place even guaranteed for the upcoming Six Nations?

Incredible Schalk
14-01-08, 01:03 PM
Ellisalde doesn't strike me as captain material, his form can be too hot and cold and is his place even guaranteed for the upcoming Six Nations?
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Agreed, imo you need a captain with a bit of physical presence. Not the smallest man in the team shouting at you..

shazbooger
14-01-08, 05:06 PM
Is Ellisalde not spending more and more time warming the bench for Kelliher? Not sure if I'm right here, but hardly captain material if he isnt playing regularly for club. Thats a headache any coach would like to avoid.

nam97
14-01-08, 05:35 PM
Is Ellisalde not spending more and more time warming the bench for Kelliher? Not sure if I'm right here, but hardly captain material if he isnt playing regularly for club. Thats a headache any coach would like to avoid.
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If that's true, how the hell can Kelleher be preferred over Ellisalde? We all know how crap Byron is, it's a relief for all NZ fans that he's buggered off..... well for me anyway.

DonBilly
15-01-08, 03:35 PM
Is Ellisalde not spending more and more time warming the bench for Kelliher? Not sure if I'm right here, but hardly captain material if he isnt playing regularly for club. Thats a headache any coach would like to avoid.
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Well not really. So far the playing time was 50/50 between him and Kelleher but this is changing and he's getting more than Kelleher. For example last week-end during the Leinster - Toulouse game, Kelleher started but he was not at all convincing and he was replaced at half-time. He has no injury. Usually they play at least 60 minutes before being replaced.

Flykiller
18-01-08, 11:22 AM
I hope Chabal-Mania won't start again.
Vermeulen is much better than him playing #8.
He may be better with media but there's no way he'd be better on the field.

Rhinos Flanker
19-01-08, 03:52 AM
everyone on my damn team is on chabals nuts
the coach even told me if I didnt stop "hating"
I wouldnt play the next game

pikedoo
20-01-08, 07:13 PM
yeah its true that nallet is already 31 and its not sure that he will play the RWC in 4 years but its a good decision from the french stuff

Matt123
22-01-08, 09:22 PM
Would have gone with Jauzion. I don't know much about Nallet.

Stillknox
23-01-08, 09:56 AM
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Ellisalde doesn&#39;t strike me as captain material, his form can be too hot and cold and is his place even guaranteed for the upcoming Six Nations?
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Agreed, imo you need a captain with a bit of physical presence. Not the smallest man in the team shouting at you.. [/b][/quote]

Elissalde may be the smallest man in the team, but he&#39;s charismatic, clever, good talker and also a good leader of his pack.

Concerning his form, he&#39;s actually ahead Kelleher. Like someone else said it&#39;s 50/50 between him and Elissalde, but lately JBE was playing for the big games. Kelleher started very well (great games against Stade FranÁais, or Leinster at Toulouse) but he seems to decline since 2-3 matchs. Morevover, JBE is a goalkicker, that gives him an advantage.

He could have been a good captain but Nallet is a good choice too. The man is not a great talker but he&#39;s quiet, imposing, he has a true aura.

pierredetoul
25-01-08, 06:06 PM
I realy don&#39;t know about this new captain, this new team and this new staff.
Can&#39;t be worse than laporte. Wait and see.

Tnebreux
30-01-08, 01:03 PM
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Ellisalde doesn&#39;t strike me as captain material, his form can be too hot and cold and is his place even guaranteed for the upcoming Six Nations?
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Agreed, imo you need a captain with a bit of physical presence. Not the smallest man in the team shouting at you.. [/b][/quote]



I completely disagree. Since when does being small mean you can&#39;t be a leader? I won&#39;t go back to Napoleon, but you are discounting a definite French tradition of scrum-half captains: Fouroux, Berbizier, Galthie, even Yachvili... Heck, even Dawson has captained the English XV 9 times!
If anything, I find him a bit too aggressive. But he certainly has the poise, the keen understanding of the game, good control over his pack, and of course the skills.



As for him warming the bench for Kelleher, it is a joke. It must have been obvious to any rugby supporter that Ellisalde is a better scrum-half than the Kiwi. The only reasons why Ellisalde has been on the bench is that he is more versatile (he was a fly-half when he arrived in Toulouse) and Noves doesn&#39;t want to wear him out. Still, a fly-half (Larkham anybody? Or Skrela soon...) would have been a much better acquisition.

Kyle Broflowsky
04-02-08, 09:56 AM
Nallet was one of the best French players for the world cup but that Laporte weirdo never selected him. Chabal shouldnít even been in the group for the RWC. He didnít bring anything to the team except that dumb useless popularity.

Itís an interesting choice made by Lievremont. Mayb he wonít be fit for 2011 RWC but he can bring a lot at least for the next 2 years and he we canít let him apart from the blue jersey. Lievremont prepared a good mix of old and new players. Unfortunately, I couldnít watch the game against Scotland this week-end, I let you guys judge Nalletís captain skills.

beckhamitsme
15-02-08, 08:28 AM
lionel nallet its a good choice by lievremont

Lan
17-02-08, 10:34 PM
Yeah, he had done a great job during the two first matches of the 6 nations competition.

erwanseb
20-02-08, 03:56 PM
Nallet learnt his rugby in Bourg en bresse (club USB=Union Sporting Bressane), then moved to Bourgoin and Castres. The USB is regularly in the play off to get promoted to pro D2 (3 years in a row they missed the promotion) but are always top of their pool in federal 1.

Born 1976, lock but can play at 8 too.

Nallet is in my view an excellent choice as captain because he is such a cool head. Never concedes penalty, never retaliates, never sent to the sin bin.

Ellisalde is too cheeky and full or trickery to be a captain. In the great tradition of scrum half/captain/coach (Fouroux, Berbizier, Galthie,...), Ellissalde is calling the tactical choice while Nallet is leading by exanple.

DiscoBear
21-02-08, 06:50 PM
Yes, Nallet never commit any fault, that&#39;s a good choice from Lievremont.

nonos69
02-03-08, 10:01 PM
Probably not...sorry

michalakheymansclerc
27-03-08, 01:11 PM
it should be ellisalde not nallet

florian74
27-03-08, 07:50 PM
Yeah I&#39;m shocked. I was 100% sure it woulda been Ellisalde. I know Nallet is a good player, f*** knows if he&#39;s a good leader or not though.
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i doubt mignoni will be in the french team for a long time...he&#39;s recently criticised the coach and loads of new 9&#39;s have appeared like morgan parra who&#39;s only 19 !! hisproblem is that he doesnt reli kick!

Prestwick
27-03-08, 08:00 PM
So what is the verdict on Nallet? I think he has done well as Captain for France and has really knuckled down, leading from the front. Just what you need from a captain.

Macsen
27-03-08, 08:15 PM
CHABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL! [/b]I concur. Give the captaincy to Chabal.

mabi59
26-04-08, 08:58 AM
<div class='quotemain'> CHABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL! [/b]I concur. Give the captaincy to Chabal.
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LOL

lick
24-11-08, 09:56 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Mar 27 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ('index.php?act=findpost&pid=309238')</div>
So what is the verdict on Nallet? I think he has done well as Captain for France and has really knuckled down, leading from the front. Just what you need from a captain.[/b]

I think so ! Nallet did a good join since his nomination as a captain. He also do a great job in Castres which has a lot of difficulties at this time in the TOP 14 Orange.

Chabal did a great match against wallabies on saturday the 22nd but hasn&#39;t leadership. He is just an icon for France, nice Icon :P.

Stillknox
25-11-08, 10:21 AM
If Nallet is nore more picked in the future (he&#39;s in pretty bad shape since the beginning of the season, but he was injured and he needs time I think) I&#39;d give the job to indisputable players like Dusautoir, Elissalde or Jauzion. Seems that Lievremont had the same idea, they both were skipper after Nallet&#39;s replacement during the autumn internationals.

thekrl
04-02-09, 04:08 PM
I think that if Lionel Nallet was choose as French team captain it&#39;s that he deserve it, the lost of players after the WC like Betsen,Pelous,Ibanez,De Villiers ... was very hard for France and I hope for them that Nallet will be a great captain like Pelous or Ibanez

kevint57
06-02-09, 09:03 PM
Nallet is very strong and very intelligent! that&#39; why he is captain

kevint57
06-02-09, 09:04 PM
chabal could not be captain. he is a good player but hasn&#39;t got enough influence on the players