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Sir Speedy
14-01-08, 09:34 PM
Rumours have spread that Peel may be moving from Llanelli (and out of Wales in general) next season after his contract expires this Summer. The Western Mail in particular have said that he has had links with Saracens and the London Wasps. Although they also pointed out that Peel would prefer a move to France (much like Alfie and Stephen Jones). The newspaper also pointed out that French Champions, Paris, are looking for a World-Class scrum-half after Pichot retired after the World Cup.
If Peel moved, i think this would benefit his game. Playing with Llanelli at the moment, he's getting nothing from an abysmal pack and the coaching setup (suffering from second-season syndrome) aren't helping either. If he moved to Paris, he would have forwards such as Sergio Parisse, Remy Martin and Scott Murray (Or is that Jason White?) to give him good possession, and ultimately, allow him to perform. Using Stephen and Alfie as examples, they both prove that playing abroad can expand a players game (Also moving them from the dismal Magners League) as Wales won the Grand Slam the year they were in France.
Peel moving to France will not benefit Llanelli, but it may benefit Welsh rugby as a whole, and since I can't see this new rule (Welsh players must stick to Welsh regions) sticking, he could get back to form over the 2 or more years he stays there.

What are your thoughts?

edinburgh_gunner
14-01-08, 09:48 PM
Peel would probably do well to move away from Llanelli. Seems to be a case of 1 step forward and 2 steps backward at the moment. Their pack isn't up to scracth so he's getting poor ball. a Scrum half is only as good as his pack.


And it's Taylor you think of at Paris, he's struggling to hold down his place mind. Murray plays for Mantauban and White is the Sale captain.

Bullitt
14-01-08, 10:06 PM
Word on the terrace is we've got him now Sharky is off to Wasps. But then again, that rumour is fueled by the Rugby Times so it can almost be completely discounted.

Sir Speedy
14-01-08, 10:08 PM
And it's Taylor you think of at Paris[/b]
Yeh, I always confuse the three. <_<

shazbooger
15-01-08, 01:38 PM
Hes going to Sale. Announced on BBC a few mins ago. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_unio...ale/7189499.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/my_club/sale/7189499.stm)
Llanelli Scarlets have announced that scrum-half Dwyane Peel will join Sale Sharks at the end of the season.

Wales international Peel, 26, came through the ranks at Llanelli and has been with the Scarlets regional side since its inception in 2003.

The news comes less than a week after the Welsh Rugby Union said that players who play their club rugby outside Wales may harm their international selection.

Peel said the move to the English Premiership club was "not about money".

"The deal to stay at Llanelli was similar to that offered by Sale - it&#39;s about the fact that, not having lived outside Wales, I&#39;d like to experience life in another country for a short period," he said in a statement issued by the Scarlets.

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Scarlets chief executive Stuart Gallacher said Peel will leave Stradey Park with the club&#39;s best wishes, and that the search to find a replacement has already begun.

"Dwayne has served us admirably through one of the club&#39;s most thrilling decades," said Gallacher.

"He has been a cornerstone in helping us to develop a formidable European record in that time and in keeping us highly competitive in domestic tournaments.

"We&#39;re always pleased to see home-grown talent become international stars - and Dwayne has served Wales and the Lions with great skill and dedication.

"His departure leaves a void at Stradey Park but means that the tremendous emerging talent in Phil Davies&#39;s squad will be given a greater chance to shine.

"We will also be looking to strengthen the squad."

Llanelli Scarlets director of rugby Phil Davies added: "We wish Dwayne well at Sale - he has served our region extraordinarily well and is hugely popular with fans and team-mates.

"He has been outstanding for us in the Magners League and Heineken Cup and will be a credit to his new club.

"Having never been based outside Wales, this will be an exciting adventure for him.

"I believe he would like to return to Wales and we&#39;d be delighted to talk to him in the future about him coming home to the Llanelli Scarlets." Peel, who has been struggling with a shoulder injury, was named in Wales&#39; 28-man squad for this season&#39;s Six Nations championship on Monday.

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Vambo
15-01-08, 02:13 PM
Should be a good move for Peel.

Sir Speedy
15-01-08, 02:35 PM
Awesome! I think he&#39;ll do well at Sale, although Wigglesworth playing second to him will not benefit England (then again, Sale&#39;s coach is French, so he won&#39;t care :D).

SaintsFan_Webby
15-01-08, 03:15 PM
Well the rumourmill also says Foden or Wigglesworth will be winging their way down to Northampton to link up with Jim Mallinder. Personally I would be delighted if we stole them both, that way we could definately get rid of Ian Vass.

DonBilly
15-01-08, 03:20 PM
That&#39;s funny that he uses the argument I wanted to go to a foreign country when speaking of England... What an adventurous player!

Sir Speedy
15-01-08, 03:27 PM
The "foreign country" was probably an excuse, his career had gone stagnant at the Scarlets, but he didn&#39;t want to upset the fans by saying the region isn&#39;t good enough. Saying that, he&#39;s played as consistent as the region has been all year, crap. So a move to a better region will do him good.

SaintsFan_Webby
15-01-08, 03:41 PM
Sale isn&#39;t a region, it&#39;s a club. ;)

We don&#39;t &#39;ave no time for them fancy foreign ideas o&#39;er this side o&#39; the border.

Sir Speedy
15-01-08, 04:40 PM
Sale isn&#39;t a region, it&#39;s a club. ;)
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I know, I realised what I said after I posted, but couldn&#39;t be bothered to edit it. ^.^

RC
16-01-08, 10:09 PM
Does anyone hear many, many notes being counted out on the table?

I think Peel knows he&#39;s not got the no.1 slot for long in Wales and so is gonna try and pull in as much money as he can, coz the lad&#39;s not getting any younger.
Plus scarlets are ****e this season.

Sir Speedy
17-01-08, 09:40 AM
He said (and so did Phil Davies) that he&#39;s getting roughly a little more than he got at Llanelli.
I don&#39;t think he&#39;s going for money, perhaps to play with a decent pack of forwards and be coached by a decent set-up. Charlie Hodgson won&#39;t mind having him around, especially if he distributes well.

Sir Speedy
17-01-08, 12:55 PM
I think Peel knows he&#39;s not got the no.1 slot for long in Wales
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Yeh, because he&#39;s just going to give Phillips the nine shirt. <_< :rolleyes:

RC
20-01-08, 10:56 PM
Erm...no, because Peel&#39;s not getting younger and he&#39;s going off the boil...

But hey, don&#39;t worry, not everyone can spot the obvious.

Prestwick
20-01-08, 11:39 PM
Seeing whats coming with Mike Phillips, considering the guy can&#39;t even protect the ball from marauding Japanese midgets...I can only see epic fail resulting from Mr Phillips.

RC
21-01-08, 11:30 PM
There&#39;s more to Mike Phillips than the display you saw at the world cup.
I would much prefer Peel than Phillips and i hold my hand up and say that quite happilyand honestly, but let&#39;s face the facts, Peel hasn&#39;t been good for some time now.

From what I see, at least Phillips, is making an impact in the places the Peel no longer does.
Plus, being the next strongest on the Welsh team behind Gethin Jenkins, Phillips is just like a ninth forward. Sometimes a bad thing, but also sometimes a very good thing.

Sir Speedy
22-01-08, 02:52 PM
Erm...no, because Peel&#39;s not getting younger and he&#39;s going off the boil...

But hey, don&#39;t worry, not everyone can spot the obvious.
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Yeh, which is why Phillipe Saint Andre has just bought him with a 250,000 (70,000 more than Phillips&#39; 180,000, might I add) a year contract lasting two years. I guess some people have an eye for potential. :bleh!:



Plus, being the next strongest on the Welsh team behind Gethin Jenkins, Phillips is just like a ninth forward. Sometimes a bad thing, but also sometimes a very good thing.
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Since when was a scrum-half being like a forward a good thing? If the eight players in front of him aren&#39;t giving Peel the ball properly, then there&#39;s no point blaming him when he has a bad game. The only time I&#39;ve seen him play bad was against Fiji, where his decision-making was abysmal.
Since Gatland is going to &#39;toughen up&#39; our forwards, Peel should play better again, and his move to Sale next year is going to benefit his game.
*Awaits, "Keep dreaming!" reply*.

dullonien
22-01-08, 03:05 PM
I agree with that Mr Speedy (btw, why have you ditched the Scarlets for the Blues). Peel is the better player, Philips has the potential to be better, but his decision making and that bloody step before passing is letting him down. Peel has been off for some time, but playing behind an abysmal Scarlets and Welsh pack is making it impossible for him.

But that&#39;s exactly where Philips comes into his own, behind a pack going backwards, it&#39;s still a tough job, but he handles it better than Peel (due to his size and strength) therefore he should have been ahead of peel lately and if the pack doesn&#39;t improve, I&#39;d put him ahead for this six nations.

Sir Speedy
22-01-08, 06:05 PM
I&#39;ve ditched the Scarlets just for a month or two, I&#39;m going to support Cardiff for the rest of the European Cup, which is mainly why I switched. Although It may be permanently, especially if we lose King and Steve, our other two best players.

And I agree with you in a way, hopefully Gatland will make Adam &#39;Tub O&#39; Lard&#39; Jones lose his gut, so we have a decent tighthead. The forwards should improve slowly, but gradually, under his reign, since he has promised he would! >_>

I dislike Phillips as a person aswell, not just a player. He&#39;s cocky, over-confident and a f*g.

RC
22-01-08, 08:05 PM
I dislike Phillips as a person aswell, not just a player. He&#39;s cocky, over-confident and a f*g. [/b]

Really? You&#39;re going to put a player down partly due to his personality?
Grow up.
Who cares what he&#39;s like off the field. He hasn&#39;t been employed to be a kind hearted, generous citizen. He&#39;s there to do his best on the field.
By the way, you were <--> that close to getting a neg rep from me for using a derogatory term.
Watch it next time.


Don&#39;t tell me you are so biased that you have only ever seen Peel play badly once!
We have been getting a bit petty in our argument, i accept that i have, but you can&#39;t honestly believe that Peel&#39;s one and only bad game was against Fiji...

I don&#39;t personally see how having a scrum half as strong as a forward is a bad thing.
I see Kelleher&#39;s not doing too badly with his ridiculous strength.

And please, don&#39;t start throwing numbers around. First of all you&#39;re saying Peel isn&#39;t being paid that much more than he&#39;s on now - being all modeste and self righteous. Then you go on to brag about pay package?
And you should know the politics in Welsh rugby is different to English rugby.

Cymro
23-01-08, 09:17 AM
Good to see Peel go, he needs to regain form and possibly he can improve himself, staying in the mangners league is not going to improve him!

Sir Speedy
23-01-08, 04:44 PM
<div class='quotemain'> I dislike Phillips as a person aswell, not just a player. He&#39;s cocky, over-confident and a f*g. [/b]

Really? You&#39;re going to put a player down partly due to his personality?
By the way, you were <--> that close to getting a neg rep from me for using a derogatory term.
Watch it next time.
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That wasn&#39;t putting him down, I was stating my dislike for him because of his personality.

Sorry, won&#39;t happen again. :toss:

man007
28-02-08, 08:53 PM
When a players move to another country to play is for realize new goals , or money deals , or simply the player want to know new leagues , revitalize his desires to play rugby ,not like your job , but as the game that you are charmed with when you knew it.

gdv13
13-04-08, 03:10 PM
I think that peel is making the right decision. Scarlets are falling apart, the forwards may aswell hang their boots up. I can&#39;t wait to see how peel is behind a strong pack and how he links up with outstanding players like LM and CH!