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Stillknox
21-01-08, 10:54 AM
I'd like to make a topic about this player, who in my opinion, is very underrated outside France.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7321/img4127pe8lf0.jpg


Brock James is a 26 years old australian fly half playing for ASM Clermont-Auvergne. He represented Australia at Under 16, 19, 21 and Sevens level but nobody knew this player out there when he came out from Western Force to replace Stephen Jones at Clermont, but quickly he became one of the stars of our french championship.See yourself : he has been Top 14's top point scorer last year, with 380 points, and has been leading Clermont up to the European Challenge Trophy and the Top 14 Final. He's still at the moment the best scorer of Top 14, and got the best points / games ratio of the H-Cup, with an impressive 17,4 points per games.

More than a good goalkicker, I think that James is a true leader of backlines, and a master of offensive play : he's quick, creative and he's a great passer,whatsoever with the hands or feet… Clermont's wingers like Rougerie, Malzieu and Delasau can be thankful tom him for the numerous tries they scored.
I think he could be in the Wallabies team if he was still in Super 12…really an excellent player.


He deserved a good spotlight, this is done. But you, what do you think of him ?

A good video about him, with some nice actions: http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/searc...5a_bjames_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/brock+james/video/x4195a_bjames_sport)

Maz
21-01-08, 03:06 PM
Probably 1 of the best 10 in the world, and is shure the best 10 in TOP14 !

Incredible Schalk
21-01-08, 06:10 PM
Yea ive seen him a few times now and he seems a pretty handy player. This is the guy the Brumbies should have gone after to replace Larkham, i would be surprised if he isnt playing for the Wallabies sometime in the next few years.

Stillknox
21-01-08, 08:09 PM
Yea ive seen him a few times now and he seems a pretty handy player. This is the guy the Brumbies should have gone after to replace Larkham, i would be surprised if he isnt playing for the Wallabies sometime in the next few years. [/b]

Can he play for the Wallabies if he stays in Europe ?
I now that the 'europeans kiwis' cannot be picked by the All Blacks, but what about Australia ?

187
22-01-08, 01:57 AM
i heard there are a few southern hemisphere players carving up. almost every single one who has come up. i remember brock tho, he was pretty good and yeah, australia should've held on to him!

samb√£d5
22-01-08, 08:27 AM
i remember when he played for the 'naki and was bloody good then.

Ripper
28-01-08, 05:42 AM
Yeah, but all he really had was that 1 good season for the Taranaki - wonder how thing's would've turned out if he had been allowed to play for the Hurricanes though.

Brodizzle
28-01-08, 05:46 AM
He was pretty useless at the Force, he had a huge problem with being unable to kick the ball into touch...although all the flyhalfs besides Hilgendorf had the same problem in the first season....he didn't really seem exceptional at all and I would guess if he came back he would be much the same...no where near test standard...

melon
28-01-08, 11:13 AM
<div class='quotemain'> Yea ive seen him a few times now and he seems a pretty handy player. This is the guy the Brumbies should have gone after to replace Larkham, i would be surprised if he isnt playing for the Wallabies sometime in the next few years. [/b]

Can he play for the Wallabies if he stays in Europe ?
I now that the &#39;europeans kiwis&#39; cannot be picked by the All Blacks, but what about Australia ?
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Unfortunately its the the same case for Aussies as it is for Kiwis. If they don&#39;t play in the Super 14 for a team from their country, they aren&#39;t eligable to be picked for national duty.

Tnebreux
30-01-08, 12:52 PM
He was pretty useless at the Force, he had a huge problem with being unable to kick the ball into touch...although all the flyhalfs besides Hilgendorf had the same problem in the first season....he didn&#39;t really seem exceptional at all and I would guess if he came back he would be much the same...no where near test standard... [/b]



Well, if you have many FH better than him, you have to count yourself lucky.
I&#39;m not sure he would be better than Barnes (or at least Barnes in a couple of years), but he seems to me a very able backup for him.

Brodizzle
30-01-08, 12:56 PM
Well, if you have many FH better than him, you have to count yourself lucky.
I&#39;m not sure he would be better than Barnes (or at least Barnes in a couple of years), but he seems to me a very able backup for him.
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He just didn&#39;t seem to cope to well when he was down here, must be something in your drinking water? :P

Tnebreux
30-01-08, 02:32 PM
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Well, if you have many FH better than him, you have to count yourself lucky.
I&#39;m not sure he would be better than Barnes (or at least Barnes in a couple of years), but he seems to me a very able backup for him.
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He just didn&#39;t seem to cope to well when he was down here, must be something in your drinking water? :P [/b][/quote]



W.. water? What is that? You must have us confused with people who play water-rugby. Try something more bubbly...

melon
30-01-08, 10:01 PM
<div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotemain'>
Well, if you have many FH better than him, you have to count yourself lucky.
I&#39;m not sure he would be better than Barnes (or at least Barnes in a couple of years), but he seems to me a very able backup for him.
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He just didn&#39;t seem to cope to well when he was down here, must be something in your drinking water? :P [/b][/quote]



W.. water? What is that? You must have us confused with people who play water-rugby. Try something more bubbly...

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Please forgive Brodizzle, he actually meant soda water. :bleh!: :bana:

methodrone
09-03-08, 02:56 PM
why he didn&#39;t play in national team?

Mr.cyclopede
22-03-08, 04:46 PM
Don&#39;t know why, but as I&#39;ve already ask, should be married here to enter the EdF.

Watching Montpellier/Clermont at the moment, 3 (0/21)tries for Clermont in the first 9 min !!!!

elgringoborracho
25-03-08, 09:24 PM
I was in the stadium. terrible day for montpellier!

FabioCapello
09-04-08, 01:00 PM
I&#39;m from Toulouse and for me HE&#39;S the best fly-half in France!

Squalito
16-04-08, 07:51 PM
He just didn&#39;t seem to cope to well when he was down here, must be something in your drinking water? :P [/b]
I think you haven&#39;t seen him since a long time. I look the Super14, Guiness Premiership and top14, and I think he&#39;s one of the best 10 currently.
He has a pass of 25/30m on both side, an enormous kick, he&#39;s able to use his two feet, he plays with the head... He seems to play his best rugby at the moment, his defense is not his main quality but no big damage, very good player.

Angus25
06-05-08, 06:17 PM
It&#39;s a great player, I don&#39;t know why he hasn&#39;t been selected with the walabies. He should have been selected in australia. He has a very good kick, it&#39;s a metronome. He has a superb vision of the game. What else? :rolleyes:

BLR
07-05-08, 09:01 AM
It&#39;s a great player, I don&#39;t know why he hasn&#39;t been selected with the walabies. He should have been selected in australia. He has a very good kick, it&#39;s a metronome. He has a superb vision of the game. What else? :rolleyes:
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He couldn&#39;t handle the game in Australia, tougher for him, he used to kick it away stupidly often when the game called for it to stay in his hands...he wasn&#39;t even an outsider for the Wallabies when he was here...keep in mind though the Super 14 is a few gears about Top 14.

Ripper
07-05-08, 09:06 AM
It&#39;s a great player, I don&#39;t know why he hasn&#39;t been selected with the walabies. He should have been selected in australia. He has a very good kick, it&#39;s a metronome. He has a superb vision of the game. What else? :rolleyes: [/b]

The fact he was utter cack outside one seemingly fluke season with Taranaki?

linl29
10-05-08, 12:00 PM
<div class='quotemain'> It&#39;s a great player, I don&#39;t know why he hasn&#39;t been selected with the walabies. He should have been selected in australia. He has a very good kick, it&#39;s a metronome. He has a superb vision of the game. What else? :rolleyes: [/b]

The fact he was utter cack outside one seemingly fluke season with Taranaki?
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I can not find it as hard as david skrela who was also a top 14 developments, it is good it is but I do not think it is the future of rugby

claytonkp
07-07-08, 09:52 AM
just watched final brock impressed me why didnt he make it in aus???

Corbin
08-07-08, 05:13 AM
I&#39;ve been watching Brock James since he was at Sydney Uni and every Saturday afternoon I&#39;d sit down on ABC to watch him carve up the Sydney Comp and I was totally confused as to why he couldn&#39;t get a look in at S14 level, he went over to NZ with Taranaki as said and he ripped up the competition.

I believe Reds gave him a very short stint and he couldn&#39;t crack it there so he went to the Western Force and he was just pathetic. I was shattered being my favourite player I couldn&#39;t understand why, It&#39;s great news that his done so well at Clermont and I really hope he comes back to S14 as he is truly a great talent.

He was nowhere near Wallaby selection when he was in Australia credit to the guy cause his seemed to have turned it around.

esoj
08-07-08, 08:30 AM
Yeah, but all he really had was that 1 good season for the Taranaki - wonder how thing&#39;s would&#39;ve turned out if he had been allowed to play for the Hurricanes though. [/b]

he couldn&#39;t have gone much worse than gopperth :D

he did have that one good npc season for taranaki then he just seemed to turn to custard and has since been surpassed by the likes of giteau etc.

EnglandWillWin2011
08-07-08, 07:01 PM
Although he didn&#39;t play well in the final I think he has been pretty good this year. If the IRB change their rules on the sevens, he may play for France, I bet they have their eyes on him.

shaneospreys57
14-07-08, 01:45 PM
I think that Brock James is one of the best fly half in the world. But he is to irregular, that&#39;s his default : unfortunately, he was on a bad day in the Top 14 finale. I think that with his level, (if he plays in Australia) he will be the national Fly Half. He bring a lot to Clermont and we don&#39;t have to forget that he is the best rťalisator in the french top 14 since 2 years.

alexrugby
29-07-08, 01:55 PM
I dont think James is probably the best in Europe I know so that he is :cheers:
He scores, manages play and is real general of Clermont :cheers:
More pleasant that david Zirakashvili plays with him :cheers:
aas David is Georgian
cheers