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An Tarbh
31-03-08, 06:15 PM
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Well it&#39;s the tie of the round and would be certainly fitting of a final given some of the form these two teams showed in the pool stage.

For Munster there&#39;s nothing new in facing a tricky away quarter final, they&#39;ve got the job done at Welford Road and the Jean Bouin so Kingsholm, while formidable certainly won&#39;t strike the fear of God into them. A pool game is one thing but a quarter final is a different beast.

Gloucester have been here before but this team still lacks the experience of regular knockout games so whether that&#39;ll stand against them, who knows.

Munster have the knack of producing at least one big performance away from home each year and we&#39;ve yet to see it and with the pressure on they usually deliver so if Gloucester can overcome them on Saturday then the title is their&#39;s for the taking.

It certainly promises to be an intriguing battle.

Gavin
31-03-08, 07:41 PM
I cannot wait for this match to kick off at 5.30pm - unfortunately I shall be at work :( Thankfully I&#39;ll be recording it and watch it when I get home, pretending it is live :D

It is going to be a battle all over the park, especially in the front-five and mid-field. Gloucester are a bit of a light weight pack and Munster should dominate, but the fight for dominance in the back-line will be tougher to call. Hopefully O&#39;Gara will pull the strings and the rest of the backs will move into their grove.

Munster to win by less than 10.

peppers07
31-03-08, 08:41 PM
Hopefully Gloucester will not improve on their recent form in the guiness premeirship.

MunsterMan
31-03-08, 08:44 PM
Kidney has some very tough calls to make fo rthis one. I would go with

Horan
Flannery
Hayes
O&#39;Callaghan
O&#39;Driscoll
Quinlan
Wallace
Foley
O&#39;Leary
O&#39;Gara
Howlett
Mafi
Tipoki
Carney
Hurley

Replacements:
Sheehan
Buckley
O&#39;Connell
Leamy
Niall Ronan/Donnacha Ryan/Shaun Payne/Ian Dowling (Depending on the kind of game we are planning to play)
Stringer
Warwick

Munster by less than 7

Thingimubob
31-03-08, 09:59 PM
This is going to be probably the most interesting Quarter Final for me. Connacht pushed Munster on the weekend, but Munster got the win, while it was the opposite for Gloucester, Worcester pushed them, and deserved to beat them. But still, this is at Kingsholm, and should be big task for Munster. Can see Munster edging it, but that&#39;s more because the only time I&#39;ve watched a whole (or most of) a Gloucester game was when Cardiff hammered them 40 - 10 in a pre season friendly and when the Ospreys beat them in the Pool Stages. But I know how much class and talent Munster have, as well as an awesome pack. Probably won&#39;t be able to see the match because I don&#39;t have Sky, but should be a really good game.

feicarsinn
31-03-08, 10:31 PM
yeah id nearly be willing to put buckley in for horan on current form and theres no way you can leave leamy out... anywya for me quinlan is just a liability

Vambo
01-04-08, 09:45 AM
I&#39;d love to see Gloucester win this but they&#39;ve not been in great form of late and I just can&#39;t look past Munster winning this.

MunsterMan
01-04-08, 05:15 PM
anywya for me quinlan is just a liability
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Explain that please? :huh:

danny
01-04-08, 07:21 PM
Im gonna stick my neck out a say Gloucester to win by 10-15 points. I cant back this up Id just like it to happen. By the way, for all of you Munster fans did you realise that Gloucester have never lost to Munster at home and our home record is superior to anyone in the Premiership. I look forward to this game with a mixture of trepidation and misplaced excitement.

An Tarbh
01-04-08, 07:44 PM
Im gonna stick my neck out a say Gloucester to win by 10-15 points. I cant back this up Id just like it to happen. By the way, for all of you Munster fans did you realise that Gloucester have never lost to Munster at home and our home record is superior to anyone in the Premiership. I look forward to this game with a mixture of trepidation and misplaced excitement.
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In fairness though there&#39;s a bit of a difference between playing a pool game and a quarter final. You can afford a slip up in the pool stages and that&#39;s always a danger with Munster whereas there&#39;s no second chance after Saturday. Although logic always goes out the window with these fixtures so you&#39;re probably right with your prediction.

peppers07
02-04-08, 04:00 PM
anyway for me quinlan is just a liability
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How

shazbooger
04-04-08, 09:27 AM
for me quinlan is just a liability [/b] Teah I raised my eyebrows at that one too. Then again hes one of those players you either like or dont like. Personally I&#39;ve always been a fan.



If both teams were playing well I&#39;d go for Munster, as form for both sides has been a bit up and down, I havent a clue.

el_tk
04-04-08, 10:30 AM
Re: Quinlan
He will probably give away at least one stupid, unnecessary penalty during the course of the game. This is widely acknowledged even by many Munster fans. The only question is if the rest of his performance will make up for the penalties

peppers07
04-04-08, 02:05 PM
Re: Quinlan
He will probably give away at least one stupid, unnecessary penalty during the course of the game. This is widely acknowledged even by many Munster fans. The only question is if the rest of his performance will make up for the penalties
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it is true that he he does give away some stupid penalties but hes still a good player

danny
04-04-08, 03:11 PM
bad news for Gloucester that Akapusi Qera is ruled out as he has been outstanding and is probably the form 7 in the premiership. His replacement will be Andy Hazel, so not a bad replacement but we lose a excellent ball carrier. Mike Tindall is named on the bench and should see some action. Interesting to see how Simpson-Daniel goes in the centre tomorrow against two of the most aggressive centres in the HCup. I can see this game being an absolute classic with loads of tries and drama aplenty. Just hope its the right result for Glos. C`mon lads take it to em!!!!

peppers07
04-04-08, 08:12 PM
Hopefully Gloucester will have low confidence after their loss against worcster
But it be extra motivation

Cymro
04-04-08, 08:29 PM
Munster will take this because of their history in this comp!

An Tarbh
04-04-08, 08:32 PM
Well I must admit I am shocked with the Munster lineup, I don&#39;t care much for Stringer but am still surprised to see him dropped, also I think it&#39;s a monumentally stupid thing that POC is captaining the side especially without Foley in the side, I know O&#39;Gara has more leadership experience this year but I fear another Leicesteresque performance. No Foley is a puzzler for me, yes he&#39;s not the player he was but he still offers that nous and experience that is vital in these games. Seeing that team gives me a horrible feeling about tommorow.

shtove
05-04-08, 12:31 AM
Munster: Denis Hurley; D Howlett, R Tipoki, L Mafi, I Dowling; R O&#39;Gara, T O&#39;Leary; M Horan, J Flannery, J Hayes, D O&#39;Callaghan, P O&#39;Connell (capt), A Quinlan, D Wallace, D Leamy.


Replacements: F Sheahan, T Buckley, M O&#39;Driscoll, A Foley, P Stringer, P Warwick, K Lewis.


Happy with Hurley and O&#39;Leary. Sad that Carney isn&#39;t up to it. Was hoping Ronan would be there or there abouts for the backrow - next season. Captain not a shock, more a surprise. Good selection.



Gloucester Rugby: O Morgan; C Paterson, J Simpson-Daniel, A Allen, L Vainikolo; R Lamb, R Lawson; N Wood, A Titterrell, C Nieto, M Bortolami (capt), A Brown, P Buxton, A Hazell, L Narraway.
Replacements: J Paul, A Dickinson, W James, G Delve, G Cooper, W Walker, M Tindall.




Great backline, but can&#39;t see the pack doing enough. Feeling very very sorry for Gloucester. Honk!

crispy
05-04-08, 05:42 PM
0-8 to Munster at H/T but Paterson has missed three penalties. :o

Bullitt
05-04-08, 05:46 PM
A funny game so far... It&#39;s definately been all Gloucester but those 3 misseed Patterson kicks have have left Glouster looking shakey. Munster just seem to, or look to be scoring from counter attack.

An Tarbh
05-04-08, 06:42 PM
Well pure humble pie for me, Kidney was bang on with his selections so fair dues, it&#39;s been a while since O&#39;Connell played that well but he stepped up to the mark today, back row outstanding, hugely important that in such a massive game that Foley wasn&#39;t missed. Back 3 all played well, thought the turnover by Dowling when Gloucester were starting to assert themselves was a huge turning point and what a grubber from Hurley for Dougie&#39;s try. The turnover count told the story of the match, quality effort from Munster all round.

shazbooger
05-04-08, 06:46 PM
Dont mean to rub it in but this really was men against boys. Glouster offered a lot of huff and puff, but when it came down to it, Munster were the real deal.

danny
05-04-08, 06:51 PM
I`ve had the worst day in history. Went to work early this morning 5am found someone had slashed my front tyre(not unusual round here).Parked my car in Clifton in Bristol to go and see some of my staff who have been doing a night shift. Come back after taking them out for breakfast and find my car has gone.The f***ing clampers had ad it away.Contacted the place where they take the vehicles and they had no record of my car being taken. This went on all day so I called the police to report my car as stolen and on the next call to the compound all of a sudden my car has arrived(2pm). By now Im evil after getting a taxi which arrived half an hour late to the compound so I explode with rage at the c*** behind the glass who is demanding a **** load of cash for my motors release.I stupidly tell them to keep the car cos I`m loaded and can afford to buy another one today for cash(obviously I cant as Im just a normal working guy). I now have to go back on Monday and pay the fine and look an absolute idiot. Also I missed the game.

MunsterMan
05-04-08, 07:40 PM
Great win. I think Munster outclassed Gloucester in every department except for the scrum (Horan was a huge loss). Howlett, Hurley, Quinlan, Mafi and Tipoki were all superb and Dowling and O&#39;Leary more than justified there selection.

peppers07
05-04-08, 08:15 PM
Hurly deseves to play for ireland in the future Mafi and Tipoki were unreal they made tons of tackles great offloads and sucked in a load of players into the Centre creating space out wide Howlet and dowling were solid in defense good under the high ball and took their chances well and the whole pack played class
They would have lost any way but i think Gloucester were missing Akapusi Qera

An Tarbh
05-04-08, 08:35 PM
Well one thing you can be sure of as well after today is that it won&#39;t feel like an away semi-final regardless of whether it&#39;s at the Millennium or the Ricoh Arena, outstanding support again from the fans.

Cymro
05-04-08, 09:33 PM
Great game for Munster absolutly dominated Gloucster pack!!!!

Well deserved win!

shtove
05-04-08, 10:42 PM
So much going on in that match. We won with two beautiful tries, but Gloucester could have had two for themselves, except Munster&#39;s wide defence gambled on cutting out the wide passes.

Kidney&#39;s selection turned out perfect. Tipoki and Mafi had good games, but so did O&#39;Leary, Hurley and Dowling. Leinster&#39;s stranglehold on three-quarters quality in Ireland is in danger, and I&#39;d be pencilling in Reddan&#39;s P45 at this stage.

Moment of the match was a contact rip by Tipoki/Mafi (too many beers to remember) in the second half on the near touchline in Munster&#39;s 22 - huge spirit and skill. In second place: the realisation that Howlett wasn&#39;t taken out as he offloaded to Hurley, and so was free to follow up the brilliant grubber for the second try - basic mistake by Gloucester.

Only worry - Buckley&#39;s substitution. Not sure we have the scrum to take this championship. And the maul didn&#39;t go anywhere. But the lineout and breakdown work is superior.

Lamb is talented, but too flip and jokey for a grown up tournament. And what a moment for Paterson to choke on his own vomit! "Manic Depression ..." etc! (sorry, Jimmy Hendrix and all that.)

shtove
05-04-08, 11:06 PM
p.s. Danny, I feel your pain. Honk!

danny
06-04-08, 06:59 AM
p.s. Danny, I feel your pain. Honk!
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Thanks shtove, almost glad I didnt make it to the game after watching it on TV last night.
I have to give a massive amount of credit to Munster who were so strong at the breakdown and every contact area apart from the scrum. Gloucester didnt produce really quick ball all day and we completely mauled.The time for excuses from dean Ryan are over, he has started to sound like David O`Leary at Leeds, cos for the last 3 years he says we are such a young team that we cant expect to win anything until we mature. Our line-out was better than usual in that at least we caught it but we were under such great pressure we couldnt feed Lawson with secure ball. Patterson can f*** off back to Scotland as far as I`m concerned cos if he cant kick at goal he isnt worth having(he hasnt kicked well for Glaws all season).
Man of the match for me was Quinlan, his tackle rate was huge and he must have turned over so much of our ball it was unbelievable. On that form I cant see Munster not winning the HCup, the two centres have gien them a new dimension in attack with their strong running and some huge hits. The only down side for Munster is the two props, we all know about Haynes but Buckley although strong in the loose looks an even worse scrummager than Horan. As for Gloucester obviously the forwards are weak particularly the 2nd row, Bortolami looks a shadow of his former self and Brown needs a big enforcer type no4 with him to flourish.
Overall Munster could have won by more.

shazbooger
06-04-08, 01:34 PM
have to give a massive amount of credit to Munster who were so strong at the breakdown and every contact area apart from the scrum. [/b] Yep. At one stage in the second half it was 12 - 1 on the turnover count. The Munster pack made a right mess of their Glouster counter parts. With that kind of ball coming back, its a wonder that Glouster managed to look reasonably creative at all.

Sir Speedy
06-04-08, 01:44 PM
Wow, after Ospreys being knocked out today, you&#39;d have to say that Munster will win the tournament no question! (Unless Toulouse play extremely well today). You have to say that a lot of blame has to fall on Paterson; with such a superb kicking record he missed two sitters really and that knocked Gloucester&#39;s confidence unconscious. All credit to Munster though, both their tries were fantastic and O&#39;Connell was absolutely magnificent.

An Tarbh
06-04-08, 05:32 PM
Wow, after Ospreys being knocked out today, you&#39;d have to say that Munster will win the tournament no question! (Unless Toulouse play extremely well today). You have to say that a lot of blame has to fall on Paterson; with such a superb kicking record he missed two sitters really and that knocked Gloucester&#39;s confidence unconscious. All credit to Munster though, both their tries were fantastic and O&#39;Connell was absolutely magnificent.
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I don&#39;t see how you say otherwise even if the Ospreys had beaten Sarries. It still would have required a monumental effort from the Ospreys to beat Munster at the Millennium with I&#39;d imagine 50000 fans at the very least cheering them on.

Sir Speedy
06-04-08, 05:44 PM
I&#39;d still say the Ospreys could&#39;ve beat them, especially when you consider their recent form. But now, only Toulouse can beat them and they have yet to spark.

danny
06-04-08, 06:46 PM
I&#39;d still say the Ospreys could&#39;ve beat them, especially when you consider their recent form. But now, only Toulouse can beat them and they have yet to spark.
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The O`s couldnt even beat Sarries and Munster are a different proposition all together. Toulouse Munster should be the final(no disrespect to Sarries who were magnificent today).

Sir Speedy
06-04-08, 07:21 PM
Which is why I said "when you consider their recent form". Albeit, Munster looked like World-beaters yesterday. They would have nilled them if they didn&#39;t opt to kick for goal when a fightback would be impossible afterwards...

stormmaster1
06-04-08, 09:01 PM
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I&#39;d still say the Ospreys could&#39;ve beat them, especially when you consider their recent form. But now, only Toulouse can beat them and they have yet to spark.
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The O`s couldnt even beat Sarries and Munster are a different proposition all together. Toulouse Munster should be the final(no disrespect to Sarries who were magnificent today). [/b][/quote]



I agree about who the finalists should be, and it would be an awesome matchup. Given Sarries turnaround against the Os i wouldn&#39;t bet too strongly against them as they are well capable of beating anyone who doesn&#39;t play at their best (could easily be Munster).