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erwanseb
03-05-08, 02:44 PM
France will send a B(C?) team to Australia as no players involved in the Top 14 playoff will go down to south.

As it stands in the top 14, Toulouse, Clermont, Perpignan, Stade Francais are likely to be qualified.
In the event of the fourth place going to Perpignan, the french team would be :

Barcella/Bruno/Milloud (Sub: Faure, Brugnaut)
Nallet/Jacquet (sub : Mela,Thion)
Picamoles/Oudreaogo/Diarra (sub Chabal, Harinodorquy)
scrum half Parra (Yachvili)
flyhalf Trinh Duc (sub Boyet)
Centers: Traille/ David (sub Mazars, Cabannes)
Wings: Thierry/Bidabe (sub Marlu)
FullBack: Brusque (sub Peyras)

For the first time in years, the Oz may dominate the scrum !!!!!!!

That would be a nice battle between the third row.
Contrary to last year, when the french C team was slaughtered in New Zealand, I would give a small chance to this team as most of the players have now seen international action.

Oz to win the serie 2-0

mickywicky
04-05-08, 09:06 PM
Yep, it's like SA/Oz/NZ touring during a Super14 tournament... not looking good.
I'll still cheer for them though :)
What happened to this agreement that the touring sides should bring their strongest teams on tour???

An Tarbh
04-05-08, 09:12 PM
Yep, it's like SA/Oz/NZ touring during a Super14 tournament... not looking good.
I'll still cheer for them though :)
What happened to this agreement that the touring sides should bring their strongest teams on tour???
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I think there was the small matter of the world cup getting in the way for starters and delaying the start of the French season.

mickywicky
04-05-08, 09:26 PM
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Yep, it&#39;s like SA/Oz/NZ touring during a Super14 tournament... not looking good.
I&#39;ll still cheer for them though :)
What happened to this agreement that the touring sides should bring their strongest teams on tour???
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I think there was the small matter of the world cup getting in the way for starters and delaying the start of the French season.
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Ja, no, I meant wasn&#39;t that explicitly stated *after* the world cup??
My bad, might have been confused.

An Tarbh
04-05-08, 09:36 PM
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Yep, it&#39;s like SA/Oz/NZ touring during a Super14 tournament... not looking good.
I&#39;ll still cheer for them though :)
What happened to this agreement that the touring sides should bring their strongest teams on tour???
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I think there was the small matter of the world cup getting in the way for starters and delaying the start of the French season.
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Ja, no, I meant wasn&#39;t that explicitly stated *after* the world cup??
My bad, might have been confused.
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I don&#39;t know what was or was not stated after the world cup but given the circumstances it was pretty much a given that any Summer tour would be undertaken without players from the Top 4 sides, I just couldn&#39;t see the club presidents allowing players to tour during the playoffs and given how the clubs accommodated the world cup it would be a slap in the face to them to do otherwise.

Stillknox
07-05-08, 02:34 PM
France will send a B(C?) team to Australia as no players involved in the Top 14 playoff will go down to south.

As it stands in the top 14, Toulouse, Clermont, Perpignan, Stade Francais are likely to be qualified.
In the event of the fourth place going to Perpignan, the french team would be :

Barcella/Bruno/Milloud (Sub: Faure, Brugnaut)
Nallet/Jacquet (sub : Mela,Thion)
Picamoles/Oudreaogo/Diarra (sub Chabal, Harinodorquy)
scrum half Parra (Yachvili)
flyhalf Trinh Duc (sub Boyet)
Centers: Traille/ David (sub Mazars, Cabannes)
Wings: Thierry/Bidabe (sub Marlu)
FullBack: Brusque (sub Peyras)

For the first time in years, the Oz may dominate the scrum !!!!!!!

That would be a nice battle between the third row.
Contrary to last year, when the french C team was slaughtered in New Zealand, I would give a small chance to this team as most of the players have now seen international action.

Oz to win the serie 2-0 [/b]

Marlu, Bidabe, Brusque ?... mmmh, don&#39;t think so. Lievremont will put some youngsters instead of them, they&#39;re burned at international level I think. Maybe guys like Julien Larrahague or Elhorga can have a last chance but not those three.

It may look like that to me :

Barcella - Milloud - Faure
Keyser - Bruno
Nallet - Pierre - Mela - Thion
Oudreaogo - Diarra - Harinordoquy
Picamoles - CHABAL !!
Parra - Yachvili or Thomas
Trinh-Duc - Boyet
Traille - David - Mignardi - Cabannes
Peyras - Coux - Brana
Thierry or Desnos

Presence of captain Nallet and some experienced guys from Biarritz will save us from a disaster like last year against the AB&#39;s, but let&#39;s be realistic, two defeat by +15 are predictable.

Charles
07-05-08, 02:47 PM
Parra and David are selected for the U20 World Cup in Wales...

erwanseb
07-05-08, 02:48 PM
Marlu, Bidabe, Brusque ?... mmmh, don&#39;t think so. Lievremont will put some youngsters instead of them, they&#39;re burned at international level I think. Maybe guys like Julien Larrahague or Elhorga can have a last chance but not those three.

It may look like that to me :

Barcella - Milloud - Faure
Keyser - Bruno
Nallet - Pierre - Mela - Thion
Oudreaogo - Diarra - Harinordoquy
Picamoles - CHABAL !!
Parra - Yachvili or Thomas
Trinh-Duc - Boyet
Traille - David - Mignardi - Cabannes
Peyras - Coux - Brana
Thierry or Desnos

Presence of captain Nallet and some experienced guys from Biarritz will save us from a disaster like last year against the AB&#39;s, but let&#39;s be realistic, two defeat by +15 are predictable.
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Despite being transfered to Clermont next season, Mignardi has played a whole season in pro D2. unlikely to be able to cope with the pace. Next year maybe.

Having Marlu Brusque and Bidabe provides a Biarritz backbone, that&#39;s the only advantage I see of having them all. Marlu has never really been blacklisted, his horrendous injuries prevented him from having a great international carreer. A few years ago, he was the best finisher of the top 16.

Charles
07-05-08, 03:00 PM
Fair enough for Marlu, but Bidabé is crap though.

erwanseb
07-05-08, 03:02 PM
Parra and David are selected for the U20 World Cup in Wales...
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Oops , forgot this one.

Parra has two possible replacements (Yachvili and Thomas) but not David.

The list of possible international centres involved in the top 14 sf or inured is quite long
Jauzion, Fritz, Poitrenaud, Bousses, Messina, Marty , Baby , Grandclaude, Bastareaud, Liebenberg,....

O'Rothlain
07-05-08, 03:02 PM
They better select Chabal. I see no reason why they wouldn&#39;t, couldn&#39;t, shouldn&#39;t.

Charles
07-05-08, 03:05 PM
Lievremont said he&#39;ll probably select him, but maybe as a lock though.

erwanseb
07-05-08, 03:19 PM
Lievremont said he&#39;ll probably select him, but maybe as a lock though.
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There are plenty of locks (Nallet, Mela, Thion), he will play in the backrow

Charles
07-05-08, 03:25 PM
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Lievremont said he&#39;ll probably select him, but maybe as a lock though.
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There are plenty of locks (Nallet, Mela, Thion), he will play in the backrow [/b][/quote]

I hope too. Let&#39;s give him a real chance, play him at 8 in the two tests, so we can finally judge him fairly. He&#39;s allegedly doin&#39; great at Sale, the coach must just adjust the gameplan so he fits in. Plus we need a big ball carrier as our loosies are mainly lightweight tackling/running type.

Stillknox
07-05-08, 03:41 PM
I agree about Jimmy Marlu, he was a great winger but this year he played only two games with Biarritz (and scored a try) but he wasn&#39;t even on the bench most of the time. Now he&#39;s 31 years old and with the likes of Clerc, Heymans, Rougerie, Malzieu and maybe Medard or Saubade in the future it&#39;s definitively over for him. Same fate as Garbajosa... except the fact that he had the chance of playing a great world cup campaign in 1999.

In centre, if David&#39;s not there... maybe Yoann Audrin from Montauban ? He&#39;s doing a good season and Paris and Toulouse were looking for him lately.

I love Chabal but I don&#39;t see a future for him with Lievremont. He can be deadly in a team like Sale, but the new coaches will prefer someone more skilful and mobile like Vermeulen or Picamoles. At lock... why not ?

erwanseb
28-05-08, 12:01 PM
No Milloud, Lievremeont is going to be short on prop, and Califano retired.

erwanseb
10-06-08, 03:30 AM
The official list with 12 uncapped players !!!!!

Forwards (14): Faure (Sale), Kayser (Leicester), Bruno (Sale), Correia (Albi), Boyoud (Dax), Lecouls (Biarritz), Couzinet (Biarritz), Nallet (Castres), Chabal (Sale), Ma. Lièvremont (Dax), Caballero (Montauban), Picamoles (Montpellier), Ouedraogo (Montpellier), Harinordoquy (Biarritz).

Backs (12): Yachvili (Biarritz), Tillous-Borde (Castres), Boyet (Bourgoin), Trinh-Duc (Montpellier), Mermoz (Toulouse), Lacroix (Albi), Traille (Biarritz), Palisson (Brive), Thiéry (Biarritz), Elhorga (Bayonne), Peyras (Bayonne), Janin (Bourgoin).

BLR
10-06-08, 03:33 AM
Is Sale the Arsenal of the English Rugby Premiership or something? Look at all the Frenchies..

elgringoborracho
10-06-08, 11:46 AM
WTF is that team? Please aussies excuse us for sending you a Z team this summer...

DonBilly
10-06-08, 12:56 PM
WTF is that team? Please aussies excuse us for sending you a Z team this summer... [/b]

These test matchs overlap with the Top14 SF and Final... So the best four clubs won&#39;t release their players for these Test matchs. It would be nonsense to weaken the team when they eventually compete for the Brennus.

elgringoborracho
10-06-08, 05:04 PM
I know that. But that&#39;s sad

Mr.cyclopede
28-06-08, 11:38 AM
Watching the match at the moment. Sure the team isn&#39;t ready in attack, but on the field the worst players are from Biarritz.
With the missed tackles of Harinordoky, the direct pass from Traille to a Wallaby (the same he did during the WRC !!!), and Yachvili slow motion play, nothing to hope (and at least 20 of the 34 yellow pts now)

Good perf from Palisson, Ouedraogo and Trinh duc

Sir Speedy
28-06-08, 11:40 AM
Watching the match at the moment. Sure the team isn&#39;t ready in attack, but on the field the worst players are from Biarritz.
With the missed tackles of Harinordoky, the direct pass from Traille to a Wallaby (the same he did during the WRC !!!), and Yachvili slow motion play, nothing to hope (and at least 20 of the 34 yellow pts now)

Good perf from Palisson, Ouedraogo and Trinh duc
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I agree, the Biarritz contingent are useless, and Nallet is equally as bad. How the hell he&#39;s the Captain is beyond me. You guys should just give it to Chabal. :D

cyRil
28-06-08, 11:52 AM
I think Palisson has had an excellent game today. No one else has really stood out, Boyet has been anonymous and Harinordoquy hasn&#39;t had his best game.
Mortlock has been excellent, MOTM.

Sir Speedy
28-06-08, 11:53 AM
The BIG game has yet to start though. That&#39;s right, the Top 14 final! Now that should be an exciting game. ;)

cyRil
28-06-08, 11:56 AM
When is that on and what channel? I&#39;ve been looking but it doesn&#39;t look like Eurosport has it?

cyRil
28-06-08, 12:36 PM
Don&#39;t leave me hanging now Speedy!
Anyone?!

MunsterMan
28-06-08, 01:51 PM
Eurosport at 7.45 tonight.

DonBilly
29-06-08, 07:04 AM
The BIG game has yet to start though. That&#39;s right, the Top 14 final! Now that should be an exciting game. ;) [/b]

Very true, the Top14 final was much more exciting than the Test Match versus the Wallabies. Better Rugby and much more passion from the Fans.

Fushitsusha
29-06-08, 11:51 AM
<div class='quotemain'> The BIG game has yet to start though. That&#39;s right, the Top 14 final! Now that should be an exciting game. ;) [/b]

Very true, the Top14 final was much more exciting than the Test Match versus the Wallabies. Better Rugby and much more passion from the Fans.
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That&#39;s what happens when you send out a crap team.

Sir Speedy
29-06-08, 05:25 PM
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<div class='quotemain'> The BIG game has yet to start though. That&#39;s right, the Top 14 final! Now that should be an exciting game. ;) [/b]

Very true, the Top14 final was much more exciting than the Test Match versus the Wallabies. Better Rugby and much more passion from the Fans.
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That&#39;s what happens when you send out a crap team.
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That couldn&#39;t be helped since the T14 semi&#39;s and final were last week and this week respectively. The 4 teams containing the best contingent of France&#39;s best team were still in France...

DonBilly
30-06-08, 12:53 AM
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<div class='quotemain'> The BIG game has yet to start though. That&#39;s right, the Top 14 final! Now that should be an exciting game. ;) [/b]

Very true, the Top14 final was much more exciting than the Test Match versus the Wallabies. Better Rugby and much more passion from the Fans.
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That&#39;s what happens when you send out a crap team.
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That couldn&#39;t be helped since the T14 semi&#39;s and final were last week and this week respectively. The 4 teams containing the best contingent of France&#39;s best team were still in France... [/b][/quote]

This has been explained thousand of times that with the hosting of the RWC the Top14 started two months later than usual. The French say there&#39;s no one depther than the one who doesn&#39;t want to listen.

For French Rugby fan the most important today was not Lièvremont&#39;s headache but wtaching the arrival of the Brennus shield at the Capitole square:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5yff9_to...r-de-bren_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5yff9_toulouse-en-liesse-bouclier-de-bren_sport)

bischof87
06-07-08, 11:04 PM
if french really send these guys to sydney it will be a shame for the FFR
and i can&#39;t understand why the rugby calender so overlayd with the fixtures.

i think this is in football better
when the nationalteams playing, the clubs have a break