North V South

[eoino]

As a matter of both curiousity and boredom, if there was ever to be a North vs South (Hemispheres, obviously) What would the 22 panel be like on both sides, who would be the coach's and what grounds would the ONE game affair take place in?

Im going to go off now and pick my best Northern Hemisphere Team because I live on that side, so its only fair. Pick your 22 depending what side you live on, and lets see who comes up with the best team! Then all we need is some contacts, a few phone numbers and a 6 pack*.

*Each.

[MunsterMan]

I'm not really good at these things but I will give it a go

1.Sheridan
2.Flannery
3.Castrogiovanni (SP?)
4.Kennedy
5.O'Connell
6.Haskell
7.Williams
8.Jones
9.Reddan
10.Cipriani
11.Williams
12.Henson
13.O'Driscoll
14.Clerc
15.Heymans

16. ??
17.Stevens
18.O'Callaghan
19.Wallace
20.Blair
21.O'Gara
22.Simpson-Daniel

[Sir Speedy]

I'm not really good at these things but I will give it a go

1.Sheridan
2.Flannery
3.Castrogiovanni (SP?)
4.Kennedy
5.O'Connell
6.Haskell
7.Williams
8.Jones
9.Reddan
10.Cipriani
11.Williams
12.Henson
13.O'Driscoll
14.Clerc
15.Heymans

16. ??
17.Stevens
18.O'Callaghan
19.Wallace
20.Blair
21.O'Gara
22.Simpson-Daniel
[/b]

I'd have Parisse at 8, Blair at 9, Jauzion at 13 (unless O'Driscoll regathers his form), Ellis at 20 (based on his game yesterday), Hook at 21 and I'm stumped to think of a secondary hooker, just like you.

So:

1.Sheridan
2.Flannery
3.Castrogiovanni (SP?)
4.Kennedy
5.O'Connell
6.Haskell
7.Williams
8.Parisse
9.Blair
10.Cipriani
11.Williams
12.Henson
13.Jauzion
14.Clerc
15.Heymans

16. ??
17.Stevens
18.O'Callaghan
19.Wallace
20.Ellis
21.Hook
22.Simpson-Daniel

I love the variety of countries in that team (well, only one Scot and two Italians, but still a brilliant and exciting looking team).

[Incredible Schalk]

Can you choose players that now play in NH? such as Heyman and McAlistar

SH side

1-the BEAST
2-Mealamu
3-Heyman
4-Bekker
5-Matfield
6-Burger
7-Smith
8-Spies/Kankowski.So'ailo ?
9-Burgess
10-Carter
11-Habana
12-McAlistar
13-Mortlock
14-Sivivatu
15-Jantjes


NH side

1-Sheridan
2-Hartley
3-Catrogiovanni
4-Borthwick
5-O'Conell
6-White
7-M Williams-awesome
8-Parisse
9-Blair
10-Cipriani
11-S Williams
12-Henson
13-Darcy
14-Clerc
15-Heymans

[dundeesmiffy]

NH

1. Andrew Sheridan
2. Dimitri Szarzewski
3. Tony Buckley
4. Simon Shaw
5. Jason White
6. Yannick Nyanga
7. Martyn Williams ©
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Mike Blair
10. Danny Cipriani
11. Shane Williams
12. Gavin Henson
13. Matthew Tait
14. Vincent Clerc
15. Cédric Heymans

16. Jerry Flannery
17. Martin Castrogiovanni
18. Donncha O'Callaghan
19. Ryan Jones
20. Morgan Parra
21. James Hook
22. Rory Lamont

Notable omissions are Brian O'Driscoll and Yannick Jauzion. Neither have impressed me, the above did during the 6N, or have in recent form with there clubs.
This is largely based on personal preference too.

I don't know who'd be in my SH team. I'd probably like to see Ma'a Nonu in the fold somewhere, I enjoy watching him play and I can't say he was in terrible form for the Hurricanes this season. I'd also like to see Ryan Kankowski and Pierre Spies in the fold somewhere. Also Luke McAllister and Stirling Mortlock would fit in somewhere no doubt, I'd like to see that center partnership...I doubt I'm alone.

[Incredible Schalk]

I don't know who'd be in my SH team. I'd probably like to see Ma'a Nonu in the fold somewhere, I enjoy watching him play and I can't say he was in terrible form for the Hurricanes this season. I'd also like to see Ryan Kankowski and Pierre Spies in the fold somewhere. Also Luke McAllister and Stirling Mortlock would fit in somewhere no doubt, I'd like to see that center partnership...I doubt I'm alone.
[/b]

I take it my SH team fits your eye

I would change George Smith to Richie McCaw in my pics..



SH bench

Nonu
George Smith
Juan Smith
Muliana
Sharpe
Woodcock
Du Preez


NH bench

lo Cicero
Rory Lamont although Sean may be better but is also always injured
Varndell, hes not great but i like the guy, speed is good to watch
Ryan Jones
Martyn Williams
O'Callaghan
Hook

[Hamster]

Can you choose players that now play in NH? such as Heyman and McAlistar

SH side

1-the BEAST
2-Mealamu
3-Heyman
4-Bekker
5-Matfield
6-Burger
7-Smith
8-Spies/Kankowski.So'ailo ?
9-Burgess
10-Carter
11-Habana
12-McAlistar
13-Mortlock
14-Sivivatu
15-Jantjes


NH side

1-Sheridan
2-Hartley
3-Catrogiovanni
4-Borthwick
5-O'Conell
6-White
7-M Williams-awesome
8-Parisse
9-Blair
10-Cipriani
11-S Williams
12-Henson
13-Darcy
14-Clerc
15-Heymans [/b]

Burgess hahahahha the guy hasnt even played for the Wallabies yet.

[HarryPeters]

And Smith ahead of McCaw?

[candybum]

I'm surprised Incredible Schalk... you didn't put CHAAAVHANGA head of Sivivatu lol

[Fushitsusha]

And Smith ahead of McCaw?
[/b]

I'd have Smith ahead of McCaw on Super 14 form.

But yes... realistically you'd probably have McCaw start and leading the team with Smith on the bench.

The only Wallabies I'd have in the team would be Smith, Vickerman, Giteau and Mortlock.

[Dmx#1]

Can you choose players that now play in NH? such as Heyman and McAlistar

SH side

1-Woodcock
2-Mealamu
3-Hayman
4-A williams
5-Matfield
6-Burger
7-McCaw
8-Spies/Kankowski.So'ailo ?
9-J.Cowan
10-Carter
11-Habana
12-McAlistar/maybe Nonu???????
13-Mortlock
14-Sivivatu/Cocopops
15-Mills Or Latham

[/b]

Highlighted my changes, I don't care for the NH they would get owned whoever they picked to be honest.

[Steve-o]

Every NH backline looks just about the same.

[nam97]

If everyone was on form, at the top of their game, I'd choose:

1. Roncero
2. Ledesma
3, Hayman
4. Williams
5. Matfield
6. Burger
7. McCaw
8. Kankowski

9. Du Preez
10. Carter
11. Rokocoko
12. McAlister
13. Mortlock
14. Habana
15. Hernandez

16. Mealamu
17. Woodcok
18. Vickerman
19. Smith
20. Ellis ( )
21. Evans
22. Steyn


Breakdown:
NZ = 10
SA = 6
AUS = 3
ARG = 3

[Fushitsusha]

If everyone was on form, at the top of their game, I'd choose:

1. Roncero
2. Ledesma
3, Hayman
4. Williams
5. Matfield
6. Burger
7. McCaw
8. Kankowski

9. Du Preez
10. Carter
11. Rokocoko
12. McAlister
13. Mortlock
14. Habana
15. Hernandez

16. Mealamu
17. Woodcok
18. Vickerman
19. Smith
20. Ellis ( )
21. Evans
22. Steyn


Breakdown:
NZ = 10
SA = 6
AUS = 3
ARG = 3
[/b]

I was about to say, this team was meant to represent the Southern Hemisphere... not just the Tri Nations countries.

100% agreed on Roncero and Ledesma. Hernandez would probably be at fullback with Latham retiring.

I'd also think there would be some Tongan and Fijian players pushing for selection. Maka could be an option at no. 8?

[Incredible Schalk]

And Smith ahead of McCaw?
[/b]

I forgot about McCaw and changed it in my second post

I'm surprised Incredible Schalk... you didn't put CHAAAVHANGA head of Sivivatu lol
[/b]

Sivivatu is still a better player at the moment, i may be a Stormers fan but im not stupid

If everyone was on form, at the top of their game, I'd choose:

1. Roncero
2. Ledesma
3, Hayman
4. Williams
5. Matfield
6. Burger
7. McCaw
8. Kankowski

9. Du Preez
10. Carter
11. Rokocoko
12. McAlister
13. Mortlock
14. Habana
15. Hernandez

16. Mealamu
17. Woodcok
18. Vickerman
19. Smith
20. Ellis ( )
21. Evans
22. Steyn


Breakdown:
NZ = 10
SA = 6
AUS = 3
ARG = 3
[/b]

Looks good to me, i would have had Hernandez in instead of Jantjes at fullback had i included Argentinean players and Albacete instead of Bekker

[Jer1cho]

I'm surprised Incredible Schalk... you didn't put CHAAAVHANGA head of Sivivatu lol
[/b]

You love him, you know you do.

[187]

If everyone was on form, at the top of their game, I'd choose:

1. Roncero
2. Ledesma
3, Hayman
4. Williams
5. Matfield
6. Burger
7. McCaw
8. Kankowski

9. Du Preez
10. Carter
11. Rokocoko
12. McAlister
13. Mortlock
14. Habana
15. Hernandez

16. Mealamu
17. Woodcok
18. Vickerman
19. Smith
20. Ellis ( )
21. Evans
22. Steyn


Breakdown:
NZ = 10
SA = 6
AUS = 3
ARG = 3 [/b]

their not all at the tops of their games though.



we do this NH vs SH all the time, it's fun and interesting tho to see who will come up with what.

[nam97]

If everyone was on form, at the top of their game, I'd choose:

1. Roncero
2. Ledesma
3, Hayman
4. Williams
5. Matfield
6. Burger
7. McCaw
8. Kankowski

9. Du Preez
10. Carter
11. Rokocoko
12. McAlister
13. Mortlock
14. Habana
15. Hernandez

16. Mealamu
17. Woodcok
18. Vickerman
19. Smith
20. Ellis ( )
21. Evans
22. Steyn


Breakdown:
NZ = 10
SA = 6
AUS = 3
ARG = 3 [/b]

their not all at the tops of their games though.



we do this NH vs SH all the time, it's fun and interesting tho to see who will come up with what.
[/b][/quote]

No they're not. That being the case, if I were to select on current form alone only half of that list would remain.

[danny]

NH

1. Andrew Sheridan
2. Dimitri Szarzewski
3. Tony Buckley
4. Simon Shaw
5. Jason White
6. Yannick Nyanga
7. Martyn Williams ©
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Mike Blair
10. Danny Cipriani
11. Shane Williams
12. Gavin Henson
13. Matthew Tait
14. Vincent Clerc
15. Cédric Heymans

16. Jerry Flannery
17. Martin Castrogiovanni
18. Donncha O'Callaghan
19. Ryan Jones
20. Morgan Parra
21. James Hook
22. Rory Lamont

Notable omissions are Brian O'Driscoll and Yannick Jauzion. Neither have impressed me, the above did during the 6N, or have in recent form with there clubs.
This is largely based on personal preference too.

I don't know who'd be in my SH team. I'd probably like to see Ma'a Nonu in the fold somewhere, I enjoy watching him play and I can't say he was in terrible form for the Hurricanes this season. I'd also like to see Ryan Kankowski and Pierre Spies in the fold somewhere. Also Luke McAllister and Stirling Mortlock would fit in somewhere no doubt, I'd like to see that center partnership...I doubt I'm alone.
[/b]

Buckley, good around the park but cant scrummage. In my eyes that makes him a poor prop. Jason White is so off form he wouldnt get a look in. Otherwise not bad.

[MunsterMan]

I disagree Danny. I think his scrummaging is good, but at Loose head it is below average. He only ever plays LH in case of an injury anyway so it is not too much to worry about. If he is at TH he is fine.

[dundeesmiffy]

As I said, he (Jason White) impressed me in the latter stages of the 6N.
He's good in the line-out and hits harder than most people in the NH.
Personal bias as well, he's maybe the nicest man in rugby...that I've met at least.

[Camberabero]

I'm trying to pick both sides, that's going to be very difficult !!!


The match should be home away:

first leg at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff
second leg at the Eden Park in Auckland

Games Rules :

Offensive and Defensive bonus rules included
In case of Match Drawn after the two tests there will be extra time period with "Golden Try" rule, then Drop Goals shoot-out.

NH Management and Coaching : Ian McGeechan, Shaun Edwards & Martin Johnson
SH Management and Coaching : Jake White, Eddie Jones & Tana Umaga

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This is My NH squad plus 8 replacements :

1. Sheridan
2. Szarzewski
3. Castrogiovanni
4. Shaw
5. O'Connell
6. Haskell
7. Williams
8. Parisse - Captain

9. Blair
10. Cipriani

11 Williams
12. Henson
13. Simpson-Daniel
14. Clerc
15. Lewsey


16. Flannery
17. Stevens
18. O'Callaghan
19. Jones
20. Hook
21. O'Driscoll
22. Heymans


R Cittadini
R Borthwick
R Taylor
R Phillips
R Elissalde
R Jauzion
R Shanklin
R Sackey

If I could pick another one man to add at My NH squad he would be (#31) Jason White

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This is My SH squad plus 8 remplacements :

1. Mtawarira
2. Ledesma
3, Hayman
4. Williams
5. Matfield
6. Burger
7. McCaw - Captain
8. So'ailo

9. Du Preez
10. Carter

11. Rokocoko
12. McAlister
13. Giteau
14. Habana
15. Hernandez


16. Mealamu
17. Roncero
18. Bekker
19. Smith
20. Pienaar
21. Mortlock
22. Steyn


R Woodcok
R Du Plessis (prop)
R Kankowski
R Ellis
R Evans
R Sivivatu
R Tuqiri
R MacDonald

If I could pick another one man to add at My SH squad he would be (#31) Phil Waugh

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I LOVE THIS GAME !

[Macsen]

They should do this every year, and host it in a neutral place where rugby isn't that popular, like Hong Kong or India or something.

[KZNSharksFan]

Picked on best form each player has exhibited in the past

1-Mtawarira
2-Smit
3-Hayman
4-Botha
5-Matfield
6-Burger
7-McCaw
8-Spies

9-DuPreez
10-Carter

11-Habana
12-Giteau
13-Mortlock
14-Rocokoko
15-Evans

16-Mealamu
17-Woodcock
18-Williams
19-Kankowski
20-Pienaar (can play 9,10,11,12,14,15)
21-Nonu (can play 12,13,11,14)
22-Muliaina (can play 13,15)


ps. Evans is Truly freakish at fullback. Henry is a fag for not picking him, i don't care if he's off to Europe, he makes Mils Muliaina look like a spastic crab.

Note this team has the following features:

-Superb kicking options at 9,10,12
-The most destructive impact players in the world on the bench (barring wodcock)
-Complete dominance at the lineout assured
-A Rock solid scrum
-A sensual backline

And comes with a 30 day money back guarentee if you're not satisfied with the way in which this team shits on everything that it comes up against

[Fushitsusha]

This is My SH squad plus 8 remplacements :

1. Mtawarira
2. Ledesma
3, Hayman
4. Williams
5. Matfield
6. Burger
7. McCaw - Captain
8. So'ailo

9. Du Preez
10. Carter

11. Rokocoko
12. McAlister
13. Giteau
14. Habana
15. Hernandez
[/b]

I don't think Giteau has ever played outside centre, and will never play at outside centre unless he doubles in size...

Picked on best form each player has exhibited in the past

1-Mtawarira
2-Smit
3-Hayman
4-Botha
5-Matfield
6-Burger
7-McCaw
8-Spies

9-DuPreez
10-Carter

11-Habana
12-Giteau
13-Mortlock
14-Rocokoko
15-Evans

16-Mealamu
17-Woodcock
18-Williams
19-Kankowski
20-Pienaar (can play 9,10,11,12,14,15)
21-Nonu (can play 12,13,11,14)
22-Muliaina (can play 13,15)


ps. Evans is Truly freakish at fullback. Henry is a fag for not picking him, i don't care if he's off to Europe, he makes Mils Muliaina look like a spastic crab.

Note this team has the following features:

-Superb kicking options at 9,10,12
-The most destructive impact players in the world on the bench (barring wodcock)
-Complete dominance at the lineout assured
-A Rock solid scrum
-A sensual backline

And comes with a 30 day money back guarentee if you're not satisfied with the way in which this team shits on everything that it comes up against
[/b]

The problem is you've got no Argentinians...

[danny]

I disagree Danny. I think his scrummaging is good, but at Loose head it is below average. He only ever plays LH in case of an injury anyway so it is not too much to worry about. If he is at TH he is fine.
[/b]

To be fair Ive seen him play only a handfull of games and he did struggle in a couple of them at tight head. I know that some props just struggle against certain opposition so perhaps that was it. As you watch him regularly I will bow to your superior Munster knowledge. When he gets a good run on the big stage we will really see his worth.Surely got to be a better bet than Hayes?

[MunsterMan]

Considering Hayes' age I would prefer to see Buckley starting but the bull is just playing too well at the moment. Hopefully Buckley will wreak havoc coming off the bench on Saturday.

I would never say that Buckley is an excellent scrummager, his Loose play and Counter rucking are his best assets but when he plays Loose head he does seem to struggle. The Irish scrum didn't move an Inch backwards throughout the six nations and he did play 20 minutes at LH against England and did fine in the scrum.

[Prestwick]

The first and only time theres ever been a North vs South match was the charity match to raise money for the Asian Tsunami.

During the match, Jonah Lomu played his final game of something remotely international rugby, Chris Paterson was actually played in the correct position and prospered and Martin Johnson scowled.

Simply. Scowled

[SmokeyMonkey]

My NH team

1. Sheridan
2. Hibbard
3. Castogiovanni
4. Wyn Jones
5. O'Connell
6. White
7. Williams
8. Jones
9. Phillips
10. Cipriani
11. Williams
12. Henson
13. Tait
14. Clerc
15. Lewsey

Masssive Front Row
Young Halfbacks
Centre Combo have met before.....

[errlloyd]

Anyone remember that Charity game back in 06 after the Tsunami, it was pretty good stuff even though the North got hammered, I remember a particularly good Mirco Bergamasco try when he caught a delicious little David Humphreys chip, but it was quite second string.