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Posted by sanzar on the offical rugby league 2 forums.
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thanks!
got a 9.0!
damn i need to get sum money....rugby league 2 and Rugby challenge 2006
RC06 is gonna have to be VERY different in play to WCR for me to even look at it once I have my grubby hands on NRL2! I spoke to a guy who works at my local store who said he's played it and he reckons it makes RL1 look like a PS1 gam in all aspects! The best Rugby game ever made!Originally posted by kinkon89@Sep 21 2005, 12:48 AM
thanks!
got a 9.0!
damn i need to get sum money....rugby league 2 and Rugby challenge 2006
Originally posted by sanzar+Sep 21 2005, 03:55 PM-->QUOTE (sanzar @ Sep 21 2005, 03:55 PM)
Originally posted by sanzar@Sep 21 2005, 03:55 PM
Great review to kick off withOriginally posted by GamePro Australia
... However, the biggest thing in Rugby League 2's favour is developer Sidhe Interactive's obvious love for the game. Many of the features, gameplay mechanics and options on offer are far from generic and wonderfully tapered to best excite the sports faithful...
thanks!
got a 9.0!
damn i need to get sum money....rugby league 2 and Rugby challenge 2006
Now if you ask me..................that isn't a con.
Complicated controls that have a steep learning curve are a disadvantage if the curve is a long one. However it looks like the curve though steep (good - seperates the men from the babies) is actually short which means it is accessible to most if not all proficient players who put effort into it. A bit like FN2.......controls slightly complicated but once you get the hang of it you are thankful that there are that many options on your controller.
We should realise that complicated means "options"
..i feel special
If they can create detailed and numerous situations for the pre, actual, and post contact situations regarding both attacker and defender/s, then combine this with holistic team patterns and varied options for support players on attack and defence..........well........we might have the new model for footie games for all manufactuers to follow.
.........and I and others may convert to leagueas the game we follow with interest.
Has the presenation for the game improved, by that I mean does it feel like a TV Broadcast? When the Goal Kicker takes a shot at Goal do we see his Kicking stats so far for the game? In Franchise Mode when a Player scores a try do we see a stat overlay come up with his Game and Season totals?
The glaring errors in the first one were to obvious to miss. That side view had blind spots! 4 camera angles which could not be adjusted is not good enough.
With the definite improvement in the player models you would expect something easier like game presentation would have been taken care of as well.
damn i am looking forward to this game....
But i have one gripe that is terrorising my mind
The camera angles
It is imperative to get a good camera angle...especially from the side
Rugby League 1 failed in this BIG TIME
The benchmark angle, and still to this day 15 years later, nobody has adopted the JLR sidecam
Rugby 2005 did ok, but Rugby League 1 failed............u couldnt even see the defense at the play the ball in sidecam
On the FAQ not much at all is mentioned of new angles, apart from a new behind cam..............but what about the side cam???..................if its the same as rugby league 1, this game will not take advantage of the "Greatness" perceived in the reviews
its been a heated discussion for many years, but its black n white in my opinion - JLR sidecam or Cheap seats behind cam.................JLR sidecam the only way to go
i still reckon sidhe should make a union game, and have all the players like pro evo/blic so we can change them etc. if sidhe made that it would blow ea out of the water
damn i am looking forward to this game....
The developers are league nuts so this RL will be their first choice. If their league game is hugely successful then they will probably make another one after that to consolidate its worth as a continuing series. If it does grow bigger then they will have a bit more resources to expand and add a new title like a union game basing it off their league game engine. This decision will probably be made as a result of whether the competition EA and Swordfish have games that are similar or lesser in quality. At the moment it is a big task in itself just to make one title for any development team, let alone a small one.
But it would be a real bragging rights point if Sidhe sense they have the goods in the future to cross over and show the union developers how to make a proper union game.Especially considering one of them is EA and have been doing rugby games since World Cup 95 on megadrive.
But it would be a real bragging rights point if Sidhe sense they have the goods in the future to cross over and show the union developers how to make a proper union game.
The sports are near identical...u only need the get the engine right
Analogy - this League engine is like an M3 or a Ferrari, whereas EA's Union have the Golf Cart, or victor rideon lawnmowers
its been a heated discussion for many years, but its black n white in my opinion - JLR sidecam or Cheap seats behind cam.................JLR sidecam the only way to go
The typical side cam for most sports games is the trolley one which follows the ball up and down the field. JLR was great because it stopped at the 22 and panned towards the goal line. I mean how hard can this be to recreate?!!!!! (R2005 did it!) With camera editing in most sports games you can even have a "trolley edit" where you determine exactly how far down the line you want the cam to go down before stopping and panning to the tryline. Seriously, it is so common now that there is nothing breaking in technology here so WTH! Just do it.
JLR was also revolutionary because it zoomed in at rucks (WCR also gave this a go) giving you a closer look at the tackle situation. R2005 failed to do this which meant it looked to much like watching a soccer match on tv. League and rugby coverage on tv in real life is absolutely dependent on the need to switch to the close cam at the tackle the ball situaltion. You always know when the broadcasting on tv has a problem when they stay with one cam for too long, especially in league where you need to see the contest at the tackle.
JLR also drifted the camera INFIELD from the sideline when the ball went across to the other side of the field, up to halfway acroos the field to catch the action. This gives the player a sense of being part of all the action, almost like being in the game itself. The first RL instalment was shocking trying to figure out the small details of what was going on across the field. The "trolley" movement across the field could also be adjusted with a cam editor according to what you prefer, whther you like to go a fair way across or just maybe 10 metres in. This coupled with the set height and distance with the zoom that you can adjust (not talking about the zooming in on the tackle situation) and it would be a wow camera!
Also you could have an option called "camera cut" where instead of a zooming in at the tackle situation you had the camera simply cut from the set height and distance cam to the close cam, just like in real life!
Wow, imagine playing a league game where the side cam was done almost like in real life broadcasting.
To this day only JLR's side cam made you feel like you were engaged as a part of the game spectator wise. Just download the JLR demo off the net to play it so you can see.
League is looking very good indeed
But i have one gripe that is terrorising my mind
The camera angles
It is imperative to get a good camera angle...especially from the side
Rugby League 1 failed in this BIG TIME
Many a game has had fans appeased by allowing them to set their cams to their preferences.
Dont get me wrong either, I think the game will be great but I just dont get whats going on with this review, which is obviously backed up by sidhe, it just seems weird.
Can anyone explain to me how this game has been reviewed when it does not even have a release date. If the game is not finished how can any review be credible. What they say about the game is good, but how can you believe what they are saying about franchise mode for instance, how could they know unless they have been playing the final build for atleast weeks, and if they are playing it why arent we. 9 out of 10?? if its that good why isnt it released? madden didnt even get 9 out of 10 this time around so I am scepticle about this. Can anyone enlighten me?
Dont get me wrong either, I think the game will be great but I just dont get whats going on with this review, which is obviously backed up by sidhe, it just seems weird.
call the CIA...........u'll get the same result
or try asking the moon - he may even talk
apparantly the review is of the full build - u cant review an early build
apparantly it was only delayed due to online feature - not gameplay, so i guess the review stands, as an early build, coz online isnt required when reviewing gameplay
**** i have contradicted myself, and said apparantly twice
i am as confused as you ceejay
the only thing we know
No release date is set
sidhe are currently extra busy, which i guess justifies our confusion, triggered by their lack of PR, coz of in-house workload, or something
thats it
just reading this back to myself - my worst post of all time, but i will commit and submit.........**** i am confused............i should go home
i would hope they would
its not a bad post btw ak
The more voices they hear, the more likely a change for the next installment will be!
(This post refers to both rugby and league).
Just chipping in to say that I support Gay-Guy and Ak47 with their views on game camera views. Nothing tops JLR for ease of viewing the sport, "side-cam til the 22" is just so easy to view the depth of whats going on. I think some people seem to say JLR was not the best rugby game ever, (I disagree), but it definetely had the best camera view. Try looking a R2005 on a smaller tv, it's impossible, thank god I have a large widescreen!
The more voices they hear, the more likely a change for the next installment will be!
(This post refers to both rugby and league).
i stopped playing Rugby 2005 after about 1 months of heavy playing
then i got my new widescreen TV...............and Rugby 2005 was re-incarnated
it wasnt a 2nd wind
but a whole new ball game, and i deadset loved it............now the FB isnt houdini!!!
i find it hard to divulge that rugby league isnt widescreen, and just prey they have the side-cam more similar to JLR or Rugby 2005, than the first RL1
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