Rugby 2012 player ratings? Players with 99

[dan the man]

Shouldn't we be rating them when they were in their "prime" like what FIFA does with their classic teams?

If they include a "Classic Teams" mode then the retired players stats should be based from when they were in their prime, but current players who WERE great players should be based on their current ability.
eg. Tana Umaga will be playing for the Chiefs next season but there's no way that his rating should be any higher than 85... There's a bunch of ex-All Blacks players that are playing for franchises all over the world like Leon MacDonald, Jerry Collins, Carlos Spencer, Andrew Merhtens... just to name a few, and these guys are well passed their prime, it would be silly to give them such high ratings. They are definitely still quality players but Spencer was 99 in rugby 06 and now he'd be lucky to get more than 75

[ranger]

Oh the delicious irony

I could say the same about you mate.. You were the one that heralded Australia as shit a few days before the beat the All Blacks. Maybe if you payed a bit more attention to whats going on outside of your own poxy island you would know whats actually going on..

[TRF_Olyy]

poxy island

Hey now...

[King_D'Arcy]

I could say the same about you mate.. You were the one that heralded Australia as shit a few days before the beat the All Blacks. Maybe if you payed a bit more attention to whats going on outside of your own poxy island you would know whats actually going on..

Awful aggressive altogether. I feel threatened

[squirrel]

kevin mealamu should have 100% for thuggery

[_George]

Lomu, at the age of 20 was 98 .

[_George]

kevin mealamu should have 100% for thuggery

no need for that now .

[dan the man]

Players shouldn't be restricted to certain positions, having 'preferred' positions could give them a slight ratings boost when they're playing there but they shouldn't be incapable of playing outside this position.
But maybe there should be a 'Front Rower' Attribute... Playing in the front row is a pretty specialist role and if the players are unsure of how to do this it can be very dangerous! If you have too many injuries in your squad and are forces to play someone who wouldn't normally play in the front row as a prop or hooker the scrums should become "Golden Oldies" (No contesting) this doesn't happen often at test level but it does sometimes...

Just a thought

[Teh Mite]

I could say the same about you mate.. You were the one that heralded Australia as shit a few days before the beat the All Blacks. Maybe if you payed a bit more attention to whats going on outside of your own poxy island you would know whats actually going on..

I love it when old threads get bumped. Beauties like this get popped up.

Irony within irony. I would have missed it n'all. Good on you "Dan the Man" for bumping the thread!

[bryce_cube]

Just an idea they could add experiance to a players attributes or special abilities
e.g Tana Umaga's experiance would be 90-100.
This may improve the whole rating of the team due to their experiance
Also add under special abilities offloading.

[tomwid_88]

George NOOORRTTTHHH must have 99

[dan the man]

Just an idea they could add experiance to a players attributes or special abilities
e.g Tana Umaga's experiance would be 90-100.
This may improve the whole rating of the team due to their experiance
Also add under special abilities offloading.

Yeah there was a 'Command' special ability in previous games but it didn't really have a huge impact... I set up a team on World League that had 8 players with this ability but i still think that Umaga's 'Tackle Breaker' ability was more beneficial.

[facuc]

Players with 99 should be: Richie McCaw
Dan Carter
Clement Poitrenaud
Victor Mattfield
Ben Foden

[Ru33a]

No 99s obviously.

Heres my list.
Daniel Carter-97
Richie Mc Caw-93
Ma'a Nonu-90
Conrad Smith-94
Will Genia-94
Rocky Elsom-91
Digby Ioane-92
Victor Matfield-95
Fourie du preez-95
Byran Habana-91
Sergio Parrise-91
Thierry Dusatoir-93
BOD-95
Chris Ashton-89
Cory Jane-91
Kieran Read-90
Francois Steyn - 95
Israel Dagg-88
Schalk Burger-90
James Hook-87
Drew Mitchell-91
Kurtle Beale-93
Quade Cooper-95
Piri Weepu-94

(Whoever said Morne Steyn should be their is an idiot,
The only thing he can do is kick.)

[facuc]

No 99s obviously.
(Whoever said Morne Steyn should be their is an idiot,
The only thing he can do is kick.)

You`re right, he has no other ability apart from kicking. But I must disagree with you in the rating you gave to Bryan Habanna. The only thing he`s got is his speed.

[hazdog]

Ratings shouldn't just be a number. They should be a combination of this:

This is for a flyhalf.

Defensive Criterion || Offensive Criterion
Tackling Passing
Organisation Stepping
Positioning Chipping
Strength Vision
Fitness Kicking
Speed ECT
Tecnique
Drifting
Cover

ECT.

Aus: oh and btw in my opinion this is our run on first XV not the team that played france the other week

1. James Slipper 75
2. Stephen Moore 84
3. Benn Robinson 78
4. James Horwill 86
5. Nathan Sharpe 88
6. Rocky Elsom 92
7. David PoCock 95
8. Wycliff Palu 80
9 Will Genia 90
10 Quade Cooper 88 ( 100 on attack )
11. Drew Mitchell 93
12. Berrick Barnes 88
13. AAC 88
14. James O'Connor 93
15. Kurtley Beale 94

Philosophy being that the best players will have a 95ish.

[madflyhalf]

No 99s obviously.

Heres my list.
Daniel Carter-97
Richie Mc Caw-93
Ma'a Nonu-90
Conrad Smith-94
Will Genia-94
Rocky Elsom-91
Digby Ioane-92
Victor Matfield-95
Fourie du preez-95
Byran Habana-91
Sergio Parrise-91
Thierry Dusatoir-93
BOD-95
Chris Ashton-89
Cory Jane-91
Kieran Read-90
Francois Steyn - 95
Israel Dagg-88
Schalk Burger-90
James Hook-87
Drew Mitchell-91
Kurtle Beale-93
Quade Cooper-95
Piri Weepu-94

(Whoever said Morne Steyn should be their is an idiot,
The only thing he can do is kick.)

Agree!
Except Elsom (IMO should be 89), Burger (92), Genia (90) and Matfield (92).
Ireland Paul O'Connell should be included (95)! Much better than Matfield!

Mitchell should be 100 in attack and 40 in defence
AAC must be 100!!

[mate_ma'a_tonga]

1. James Slipper 75
2. Stephen Moore 84
3. Benn Robinson 78
4. James Horwill 86
5. Nathan Sharpe 88
6. Rocky Elsom 92
7. David PoCock 95
8. Wycliff Palu 80
9 Will Genia 90
10 Quade Cooper 88 ( 100 on attack )
11. Drew Mitchell 93
12. Berrick Barnes 88
13. AAC 88
14. James O'Connor 93
15. Kurtley Beale 94

pretty accurate besides wycliff palu i'd put him as 89 for sure one of the best number 8s in the world before he got injured thats just my opinion.

[dan the man]

No 99s obviously.

Heres my list.
Daniel Carter-97
Richie Mc Caw-93
Ma'a Nonu-90
Conrad Smith-94
Will Genia-94
Rocky Elsom-91
Digby Ioane-92
Victor Matfield-95
Fourie du preez-95
Byran Habana-91
Sergio Parrise-91
Thierry Dusatoir-93
BOD-95
Chris Ashton-89
Cory Jane-91
Kieran Read-90
Francois Steyn - 95
Israel Dagg-88
Schalk Burger-90
James Hook-87
Drew Mitchell-91
Kurtle Beale-93
Quade Cooper-95
Piri Weepu-94

(Whoever said Morne Steyn should be their is an idiot,
The only thing he can do is kick.)

I wouldn't rate Habana much higher than 85 these days,
Quade Coopers overall rating should be low 80's... sure he's great on attack but he can't tackle to save himself,
James O'Conner needs to be on that list i think, and although Giteau's form has been pretty poor recently he'd still be pretty highly ranked,
And... if Dan Carter is 97 there's no way on earth that Francious Steyn is 95!

[raidske]

No 99s obviously.

Heres my list.
Daniel Carter-97
Richie Mc Caw-93
Ma'a Nonu-90
Conrad Smith-94
Will Genia-94
Rocky Elsom-91
Digby Ioane-92
Victor Matfield-95
Fourie du preez-95
Byran Habana-91
Sergio Parrise-91
Thierry Dusatoir-93
BOD-95
Chris Ashton-89
Cory Jane-91
Kieran Read-90
Francois Steyn - 95
Israel Dagg-88
Schalk Burger-90
James Hook-87
Drew Mitchell-91
Kurtle Beale-93
Quade Cooper-95
Piri Weepu-94

(Whoever said Morne Steyn should be their is an idiot,
The only thing he can do is kick.)

y is the worlds best player (Richie McCaw) lower the Conrad Smith, Will Genia, Francois Steyn, Quade Copper,Pir Weepu,<-- they havent even been the worlds best in own position... and i think has a higher level then Victor Matfield and Fourie Dupreez

[Ru33a]

I wouldn't rate Habana much higher than 85 these days,
Quade Coopers overall rating should be low 80's... sure he's great on attack but he can't tackle to save himself,
James O'Conner needs to be on that list i think, and although Giteau's form has been pretty poor recently he'd still be pretty highly ranked,
And... if Dan Carter is 97 there's no way on earth that Francious Steyn is 95!

Okay, lets put FS at 75..
Happy?

y is the worlds best player (Richie McCaw) lower the Conrad Smith, Will Genia, Francois Steyn, Quade Copper,Pir Weepu,<-- they havent even been the worlds best in own position... and i think has a higher level then Victor Matfield and Fourie Dupreez

Fourie Du Preez and Victor Matfield, are the main impact which keeps the saffas going.
Which is why they deserve that rating.

[dan the man]

Yeah but i think that it's safe to say that McCaw should have the best rating in the game... Not being bias, but he is the best openside flanker/captain in the world right now if not ever... Du Preez would be the best halfback, although the fact that Weepu is a great goalkicker as well would keep them pretty close. Matfield would be the best lock in the game followed by Brad Thorn and Bakkies Botha.

As for F. Steyn he'd have the most kicking power by a long way, and on attack he's great but sometimes isn't to good defensively. so i'd think he'd be about 80-85

[madflyhalf]

I don't know how this season is gonna be, but for me not Parisse of 91.
Parisse 88, Castrogiovanni should be 91 (best prop featured in the game, along with Mas).

McCaw 97 and Carter 95

But please, no more 100m long kicks from rated over 90 flyhalves (except Frans Steyn but he is no more a flyhalf :P... no, anyway I'm joking)!!!

[Dexter Tauvao]

Ireland Paul O'Connell should be included (95)! Much better than Matfield!

I dont think you ever get better than Matfield

[Dexter Tauvao]

I'll try rating the top tri nation players?
(sorry, dont know too much about nh, have a crack, but Im probably a bit off)

NZ
Richie McCaw 94
Daniel Carter 95
Mils Muliaina 89
Kieran Read 89 (why's he not mentioned much?)
Brad Thorn 90

RSA
Victor Matfield 93
Heinrich Brüssow 91
Fourie du Preez 95 (if Pichot can get 94 I think FdP should be a bit higher?)
François Steyn 92
Morné Steyn 91 (can kick like no one else, but he can't attack for crap really..) :l
Percy Montgomery 97
AUS
Matt Giteau 90
Will Genia 90
Quade Cooper 84 (defence issues)
Adam Ashley Cooper 89
*I dont watch the Wallabies much so I could/should be off with these ones

SAM
Mikaele Pesamino 87 (almost like Cooper on defence)
Lolo Lui 85
Alesana Tuilagi 82
Brian Lima 86

IRE
Paul O'Connell 92
Brian O'Driscoll 93

WAL
Shane Williams 93
Gavin Henson 88
Stephen Jones 87

SCO
Dan Parks 86 ..?

[lance2010]

I just hope H.B don't rate Sonny Bill Williams higher then Ma'a Nonu, that would be wrong.Ma'a would be approx 83-86.I would like to know the method that H.B base there ratings on.

[dan the man]

It's hard to rate SBW at the moment... he didn't really perform against Wales so at this stage i'd give him about 78 - 83, and Nonu would be around 90 IMO

[Dizzy]

I'd really rate Sonny around the 80 mark.

[_George]

NZ:
- Mealamu 92 - Thorn 92 - Kaino 89 - McCaw 97 - Read 90 - Weepu 92 - Carter 95 - Gear 91 - Nonu 90 - Smith 91 - Jane 91 - Muliaina 93 .
AUS:
- Sharpe 83 - Elsom 89 - Pocock 91 - Genia 84 - Cooper 86 - Mitchell 90 - AAC 88 - OConnor 89 - Beale 92 .
SA:
- Du Plessis 89 - Botha 87 - Matfield 93 - Smith 93 - Burger 91 - Spies 88 - Du Preez 94 - Steyn 90 - F.Steyn 85 - Habana 87 - Fourie 91 - De Villiers 85 .
ENG:
- Lawes 87 - Moody 81 - Youngs 88 - Cueto 83 - Hape 83 - Ashton 88 - Foden 86 .
IRE:
- Heaslip 82 - BOD 92 - Bowe 87 .
WAL:
- Williams 88 - North 85 - Hook 87 .

[sabin22]

richie mccaw dan carter conrad smith mils muliaina kerian read kevin mealamu and woodcock should be highly rated along with over seas players such as victor matfeild fourie de preez schalk burger brian habanna and spies, rocky elsom, will genia adam ashley cooper, drew mitchell and maybe quade cooper should be star players not rated 99 though, high 80s low and mid 90s