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Originally Posted by Olyy
Oh,
well that isn't very good at all, is it?
Now, let's assess options:
6) O'Brien
7) Jennings
8) Wallace
6) Leamy
7) Wallace
8) O'Brien
6) Wallace
7) Jennings
8) O'Brien
etc...
The last one is my favourite. Admittedly, it's a bit light, but O'Brien has the bulk to make up for the other two. Image the amount of quick ball we'd get..
Excuses at the ready boys
In fairness lads Italy are a tough team , but a backrow of SOB and wallace with jennings thrown in there is still bloody formidable.
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It's shit that Ferris and Heaslip are injured but O'Brien, Leamy, Wallace and Jennings are still a strong bunch of backrowers. If one of those falls too, I'd be tempted to bring Dominic Ryan into the squad. After that, Roger Wilson deserves a go. They're better than the other still standing options, Willie Faloon, Chris Henry and Niall Ronan.
lets get the combinations of Sexton, D'Arcy and O'driscoll working to put our back three in space. Still a strong backrow and one that might have different benefits.
I would have 6.Wallace 7. Jennings 8. O'Brien. I still think thats a stronger backrow than the Italians.
the backrow is the only unit where Italy is (slightly) better than Ireland, 6 Zanni 7. Derbyshire / Barbieri 8. Parisse, it's the only unit fully at international level, not even the frontrow is at a decent level actually (only Castro is), locks are playing shite, let alone the backs... (only Mi. Bergamasco and, recently, Canale, are having a decent season)
will be an easy win for the Irish
That is a good Italian Backrow. They probably do have the slight upper Edge in that area now (depending how the game goes) although if we had Heaslip and Ferris fit our backrow would be able to take any backrow in Europe. I think Sextons creativity simply cut through the Italians backs but they have a strong pack and a few individuals but maybe lack players in key possitions, fly half is probably a bit of a worry for Italy.
Is Zanni the guy who filled in for Parisse last year?
If so: He was quality.
I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you at the moment but merely pointing out it seems very unlikely you'll get your wish with Kidney's usual preferencs...
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As long as O'Brien is there we'll be fine, he's being destroying backrows pretty much by himself all season. Anybody read Kidney's comment in the Irish Times that if we had an Irish Under 30's match vs an Irish Over 30's match it would be a great game. If I was to put the teams together
Under 30 Irish team
15 Fitzgerald 23
14 Bowe 26
13 O'Malley 22
12 McFadden 24
11 Earls 23
10 Sexton 25
9 O'Leary 27
8 Heaslip 27
7 O'Brien 23
6 Ferris 26
5 Toner 24
4 Nagle 22
3 Hagan 23
2 Cronin 23
1 Healy 23
Over 30's Irish Team
15 Murphy 32
14 Horgan 32
13 O'Driscoll 32
12 D'Arcy 30
11 Hmm, We'll get Denis Hickie out of retirement 34
10 O'Gara 33
9 Stringer 33
8 Wallace 34
7 Jennings 29(close enough plus there's no one else really)
6 Quinlann 36
5 O'Connell 31
4 O'Callaghan 31
3 Ross 31
2 Flannery 32
1 Horan 33
It would be an awesome match. The Over 30's would have it in the Tight 5 but that's just because the younger guys are still relatively lightweight.
Last edited by Jockstap; 30-01-11 at 05:25 AM.
I would have to go wit the U30's based on those line ups.
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Steady on. I think we may be going a wee bit overboard on young Ian Nagle at the moment. He's a good player yes, but he certainly isn't better than Dan Tuohy at the moment.
Ireland team to face Italy to be named on Tuesday. Kevin McLaughlin, Gavin Duffy and Tomas O'Leary have all been promoted to the senior squad however Buckley has not.
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/201...ed-on-tuesday/
Last edited by coonor; 30-01-11 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Changed due to pickiness
Who is he?
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I have changed Thomas to Tomas just for you.
WTF? Stringer dropped in favour of O'Leary? Wow, didn't see that coming.
Good to see Kev McLaughlin back in there. He's a quality player and was in or around the Irish panel before his injury and with our current backrow crisis it's good to have a man of his talent back.
I suppose Duffy had to come in all things considered. O'Leary however, did not.
TOL is playing crap however I do think he can get to much stick. I would have picked Stringer but O'Leary was quite good in last years 6 nations.
Eh? Has Bullitt even commented on this thread?
Also, the 2003 team are old...now.
8 years ago they were 8 years younger, surprisingly
That's vicious slander right there.
The Squad announcement is tomorrow and my Irish team would be:
1: C Healy
2: S Cronin
3: Mike Ross
4: D O'Callaghan
5: P O'Connell
6: D Leamy
7: D Wallace
8: S O'Brien
9: E Reddan
10: J Sexton
11: K Earls
12: G D'arcy
13: B O'Driscoll (c)
14: F McFadden
15: L Fitzgerald
16: T Court
17: R Best
18: L Cullen
19: S Jennings
20: T O'Leary
21: R O'Gara
22: G Duffy
I think Leamy has the experience needed with the injuries in the backrow and he has bulk which may be needed against Italy. I have picked DOC over Cullen because I want to see him and POC have more game time together however I don't mind if Cullen or DOC played. Duffy is in for cover at fullback but P Wallace may be the better option however I think Duffy deserves a cap for consistency.
Haven't DOC and POC played together for Munster and Ireland for many a year? Can't see any need to see them together more
Cullen should be the first name on the team list (in the 4. or 5. spot anyway)
Surely DOC shouldn't be picked on the basis of how awful he is.
i would love to see o'connell and cullen or o'connell and toner
Pity Tuohy isn't in there, I'd have Cullen/Tuohy with Toner on the bench
It was a quick decision on the DOC choice I just thought that their partnership is usually solid and I want that back again but your probably right in saying Cullen deserves it more.
No POC? You're on drugs.
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Cullen is much better these days, and O'Connell will only be injured or banned for the WC so you need to bring in some new talented locks
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Drugs. POC was great against LI, destroyed their excellent line-out carried well too. And to be fair, he has a decent disciplinary record.Cullen is much better these days, and O'Connell will only be injured or banned for the WC so you need to bring in some new talented locks
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How can people big Tuohy up when he isn't playing out of his skin and let's not forget couldn't make Ulster team at start of season. Toner has to make Leinster team before he nails down Irish spot.
Realistic fact is POC DOC and Cullen are the only 3 options we have at lock.
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