Exile teams

[lynam1104]

Oh I though that he said didn't want to might be both sounds like a lot of bad blood between them.

[Peat]

Its what I've been told on quite a few forums. True? I don't know. But what is certain is he tried to get his eligibility changed again and he has turned down Fijian call-ups since then - although he did say he'd be available for the World Cup.

Cymro, yeah, realised I'd made that mistake! Ah well.

[TRF_Cymro]

Remember some news he was keen to play for Fiji in 2007 WC. Did he then retract saying that?

[ranger]

Source? I call bull****. If playing for a team in a World cup does not bind you, what does.

Thats the story he gave when trying to petition for All Black eligibility. You can kind of understand his veiwpoint if hes a bit dim. He grows up seeing Frank Bunce go to the World Cup with Samoa and use that as a springboard into the All Blacks; He tries to emulate that and then finds out the rules have changed.

[TRF_Olyy]

According to this: http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-news/nacewa-...-hopes-3088557
He wants to play in the WC, but that's from 2009 so who knows, he hasn't featured for Fiji since then, so might not be on the radar (or just might not want to)

[TRF_Cymro]

Thats the story he gave when trying to petition for All Black eligibility. You can kind of understand his veiwpoint if hes a bit dim. He grows up seeing Frank Bunce go to the World Cup with Samoa and use that as a springboard into the All Blacks; He tries to emulate that and then finds out the rules have changed.

How many games would he have really played for the All Blacks? Would he have ended up like Regan King, Casey Laulala etc?

[lynam1104]

I think he would have more then a handfull of caps but they have stiff compition in the back so you never know.

[ranger]

How many games would he have really played for the All Blacks? Would he have ended up like Regan King, Casey Laulala etc?

Yeah i doubt there was much chance of him becoming a consistant selection. The way he spoke though you could tell it was a personal thing that he just really wanted to be an All Black, even if it was a single cap. He comes from Auckland Grammar where the pride of making the ABs is really drummed into you. (Regan King was self inflicted though i must say, he just took off mysteriously when he was very much in the equation)

According to this: http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-news/nacewa-...-hopes-3088557
He wants to play in the WC, but that's from 2009 so who knows, he hasn't featured for Fiji since then, so might not be on the radar (or just might not want to)

I cant see it happening.. even if he wanted to and they wanted him back, how incredibly awkward would that be? Its like dropping your girlfriend to chase after a better looking girl, then getting rejected and trying to slink back and pretend nothing happened.

[TRF_Olyy]

Agreed - and it's a slap in the face to any Fijian wings/fullbacks who have wanted to play for them for their entire lives, to have someone who doesn't give a damn just walk in to the team (even if he is incredibly talented etc.etc.)

[Peat]

I cant see it happening.. even if he wanted to and they wanted him back, how incredibly awkward would that be? Its like dropping your girlfriend to chase after a better looking girl, then getting rejected and trying to slink back and pretend nothing happened.

Surprisingly succesful as a strategy in general. I wouldn't be at all surprise if Nacewa came back into the fold for the World Cup. It might be awkward, it might be ill-advised, but not many coaches would overlook a player of Nacewa's quality.

[ranger]

Agreed - and it's a slap in the face to any Fijian wings/fullbacks who have wanted to play for them for their entire lives, to have someone who doesn't give a damn just walk in to the team (even if he is incredibly talented etc.etc.)

I think if they begged him to come back, it would be because they were desperate for him to play 10. Which is actually pretty likely come to think of it

[Feicarsinn]

Ok, how about we turn this thread around? Teams made up of foreign players playing your country:

15) Nacewa
14)Howlett
13)Tuitupou
12)Mafi
11)Daniellli
10)Warwick
9)Pienaar
8)Wannenberg
7)Ray Ofisa
6)Diack
5)Hines
4)Muller
2)Botha
1)Strauss
Van Der Merwe

[Charles]

Ok, how about we turn this thread around? Teams made up of foreign players playing your country:

I'm not gonna bother with this one, I could make 4 or 5 very good teams...

[munstermuffin]

Is it just me or to Austrailian players tend to come here alot less than other SANZAR players.

[TRF_Cymro]

Wales Overseas XV:

1. Taufa'ao Filise
2. Tom Willis
3. Ben Castle
4. Paul Tito
5. Jonny Fa'amatuainu
6. Jerry Collins
7. Marty Holah
8. Xavier Rush
9. Jaime Nutbrown
10. Dan Parks
11. Sean Lamont
12. Regan King
13. Casey Laulala
14. Tommy Bowe
15. Ben Blair

Deacon Manu, Nigel Hall, Michael Paterson, Maama Molitika, Andries Pretorius, David Lyons, Mike Petri, Nikkie Walker, Joe Ajuwa, Matt Evans

[ranger]

Is it just me or to Austrailian players tend to come here alot less than other SANZAR players.

There are very few Australian players out there thats why.. Ireland has almost double the amount of registered players IIRC

As for the based in NZ team..

1)Simon Lemalu
2)Mahonri Shwalger
3)Anthony Perenise
4)Pat O'Connor
5)David Gannon (If hes still kicking around)
6)Adam Kleeberger
7)Serge Lilo
8)Kane Thompson
9)Kahn Fotuali'i
10)Fa'atonu Fili
11)Sinoti Sinoti
12)Jack Tarrant
13)Jamie Helluer
14)George Pisi
15)Christian Lealifano

Its not really the same though as most of those players were born/ have always lived here anyway

[TRF_Olyy]

1. Soane Tonga'uiha
2. Schalk Brits
3. Martin Castrogiovanni
4. Ignacio Fernandez Lobbe
5. Steve Mafi
6. Andy Powell
7. Neil McMillan
8. Thomas Waldrom (Luke Watson if Waldrom's now English )
9. Michael Claasens
10. Nick Evans
11. Horacio Agulla
12. James Downey
13. Seilala Mapusua
14. Alesana Tuilagi
15. Paul Williams


Not a bad team at all

[Peat]

Ok, how about we turn this thread around? Teams made up of foreign players playing your country:

15) Nacewa
14)Howlett
13)Tuitupou
12)Mafi
11)Daniellli
10)Warwick
9)Pienaar
8)Wannenberg
7)Ray Ofisa
6)Diack
5)Hines
4)Muller
2)Botha
1)Strauss
Van Der Merwe

Think that could give the Ireland team a spot of bother, although would probably lose.

Mindyou, a team of the best NEQs playing in England would probably beat England.

edit: Olyy beat me to it. Although team needs more Jacques Burger and less Andy Powell. And I'd rather have Luke Watson than Waldrom anyway.

[TRF_Darwin]

Good list pity some of those boys have retired e.g. Danny Lee, some are still playing in the Super15 despite playing for Australian / SA Super sides and Waldrom is set to become English

Otherwise a pretty hefty list.

True, there are possibly a few on the list that have retired - didn't have time to go through the whole list and check which players had retired....

Well I'd still count Flutey and Hape as Kiwi players abroad. And like I said profuse apologies to darwin_23, I'm not from New Zealand so I thought I'd do the best I could with the stand out players I could think of. I've heard of (at a push) 20% of those players.

No worries mate... I've just had this list sitting on my computer for while, and have been waiting for an opportunity to use it! Apart from a couple of players, the list comprised entirely of ex-Super Rugby players. It's probably not surprising you haven't heard of most of them - I certainly wouldn't know more than 20% of players in the Aviva premiership!

[Aedaphon]

1. Soane Tonga'uiha
2. Schalk Brits
3. Martin Castrogiovanni
4. Ignacio Fernandez Lobbe
5. Steve Mafi
6. Andy Powell
7. Neil McMillan
8. Thomas Waldrom (Luke Watson if Waldrom's now English )
9. Michael Claasens
10. Nick Evans
11. Horacio Agulla
12. James Downey
13. Seilala Mapusua
14. Alesana Tuilagi
15. Paul Williams


Not a bad team at all

It's all about Jimmy Gopperth

[psychic duck]

15. Lee Byrne (Clermont)
14. Ceiron Thomas (Leeds)
13. Jamie Robinson (Agen)
12. James Hook (Perpignan)
11. Tom Cheeseman (Harlequins)
10. Nicky Robinson (Wasps)
9. Dwayne Peel (Sale)
1. Eifion Roberts (Toulon)
2. Marc Jones (Sale)
3. Craig Mitchell (Exeter)
4. Will James (Gloucester)
5. Chris Wyatt (Aix-en-Provence)
6. Andy Powell (Wasps)
7. Rhys Oakley (Leeds)
8. Gareth Delve (Melbourne Rebels)

Added a few players who are moving for next season, still an awful team even with Hooky

[OptimisticJock]

EXILES

15. RLamont
14. Danielli
13. Ansbro
12. SLamont
11. Walker
10. Parks
9. Lawson

1. Dickenson
2. Lawson
3. Murray
4. Hamilton
5. Hines
6. Stokosch
7. Hogg
8. Brown

16. Lawrie
17. Shiels
18. Murray
19. White
20. McMillan
21. Grove
22. Cuthbert

LOCAL FORIEGNERS

15. Stortoni - Gl
14. DTH - Gl
13. Irn Bru - Gl
12.
11. Visser - Ed
10.
9.

1. Tkachuk (or something) - Gl
2.
3.
4.
5. Lozada - Ed
6.
7.
8. Talei -Ed

[TRF_Draggs]

15. Lee Byrne (Clermont)
14. Ceiron Thomas (Leeds)
13. Jamie Robinson (Agen)
12. James Hook (Perpignan)
11. Tom Cheeseman (Harlequins)
10. Nicky Robinson (Wasps)
9. Dwayne Peel (Sale)
1. Eifion Roberts (Toulon)
2. Marc Jones (Sale)
3. Craig Mitchell (Exeter)
4. Will James (Gloucester)
5. Chris Wyatt (Aix-en-Provence)
6. Andy Powell (Wasps)
7. Rhys Oakley (Leeds)
8. Gareth Delve (Melbourne Rebels)

Added a few players who are moving for next season, still an awful team even with Hooky

Chris Wyatt! There's a lad from way back (well, not really).
I can't believe he is 35, I'd have put him well past 40 now.

[psychic duck]

Wales overseas based team updated, now a good team

1. Gethin Jenkins (Toulon)
2. Huw Bennett (Lyon)
3. Craig Mitchell (Exeter)
4. Luke Charteris (Perpignan)
5. Dominic Day (Bath)
6. Andy Powell (Sale)
7. James Merriman (Bristol)
8. Gareth Delve (Toulon)
9. Dwayne Peel (Sale)
10. Nicky Robinson (Wasps)
11. Shane Williams (Sagamihara Dynaboars)
12. James Hook (Perpignan)
13. Sonny Parker (London Welsh)
14. Aled Brew (Biarritz)
15. Lee Byrne (Clermont)

16. T Rhys Thomas (Wasps)
17. Paul James (Bath)
18. Will James (Gloucester)
19. Rhys Oakley (Bourgoin)
20. Mike Phillips (Bayonne)
21. Stephen Jones (Wasps)
22. Lee Thomas (Wasps)

[Feicarsinn]

Popham for Oakley for me, but not all that much to disagree with apart form that.

[Scan]

Popham for Oakley for me, but not all that much to disagree with apart form that.

Popham's retired a good year now mate.

[psychic duck]

England overseas based XV

1. Andrew Sheridan (Toulon)
2. Neil Briggs (Bourgoin)
3. Pat Barnard (Pau)
4. Simon Shaw (Toulon)
5. Nick Kennedy (Toulon)
6. Magnus Lund (Biarritz)
7. Steffon Armitage (Toulon)
8. Luke Narraway (Perpignan)
9. Chris Leck (Edinburgh)
10. Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon)
11. Iain Balshaw (Biarritz)
12. Riki Flutey (Ricoh Black Rams)
13. Jamie Noon (Brive)
14. Paul Sackey (Stade Français)
15. Delon Armitage (Toulon)

Scotland overseas based XV

1. Alasdair Dickinson (Sale)
2. Scott Lawson (London Irish)
3. Euan Murray (Newcastle)
4. Richie Gray (Sale)
5. Nathan Hines (Clermont)
6. Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan)
7. Ally Hogg (Newcastle)
8. Kelly Brown (Saracens)
9. Mike Blair (Brive)
10. Dan Parks (Connacht)
11. Nikki Walker (Worcester)
12. Steven Shingler (London Irish)
13. Joe Ansbro (London Irish)
14. Max Evans (Castres)
15. Hugo Southwell (Wasps)

I could try and do an Irish one, but it wouldn't be good enough

[Aedaphon]

I look back at this thread and realize I used to be an arse...

England overseas based XV

1. Andrew Sheridan (Toulon)
2. Neil Briggs (Bourgoin)
3. Pat Barnard (Pau)
4. Simon Shaw (Toulon)
5. Nick Kennedy (Toulon)
6. Magnus Lund (Biarritz)
7. Steffon Armitage (Toulon)
8. Luke Narraway (Perpignan)
9. Chris Leck (Edinburgh)
10. Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon)
11. Iain Balshaw (Biarritz)
12. Riki Flutey (Ricoh Black Rams)
13. Jamie Noon (Brive)
14. Paul Sackey (Stade Français)
15. Delon Armitage (Toulon)

Scotland overseas based XV

1. Alasdair Dickinson (Sale)
2. Scott Lawson (London Irish)
3. Euan Murray (Newcastle)
4. Richie Gray (Sale)
5. Nathan Hines (Clermont)
6. Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan)
7. Ally Hogg (Newcastle)
8. Kelly Brown (Saracens)
9. Mike Blair (Brive)
10. Dan Parks (Connacht)
11. Nikki Walker (Worcester)
12. Steven Shingler (London Irish)
13. Joe Ansbro (London Irish)
14. Max Evans (Castres)
15. Hugo Southwell (Wasps)

I could try and do an Irish one, but it wouldn't be good enough

Palmer in the England squad- also that is surprisingly close to a starting Scottish XV

[TRF_Draggs]

Scotland overseas based XV

1. Alasdair Dickinson (Sale)
2. Scott Lawson (London Irish)
3. Euan Murray (Newcastle)
4. Richie Gray (Sale)
5. Nathan Hines (Clermont)
6. Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan)
7. Ally Hogg (Newcastle)
8. Kelly Brown (Saracens)
9. Mike Blair (Brive)
10. Dan Parks (Connacht)
11. Nikki Walker (Worcester)
12. Steven Shingler (London Irish)
13. Joe Ansbro (London Irish)
14. Max Evans (Castres)
15. Hugo Southwell (Wasps)

I could try and do an Irish one, but it wouldn't be good enough

Oh cock, not this again.

[Aedaphon]

My attempt for New Zealand

1. John Afoa (Ulster) (Can't remember which side he plays)
2.
3. Carl Hayman (Toulon)
4. Brad Thorn (Leinster)
5.
6. Jerry Collins (Yamaha)
7. Craig Newby (Leicester)
8. Sione Lauaki (Bayonne)
9. Byron Kelleher (Stade Francais) ... Alright, he's pushing it a little
10. Nick Evans (Harlequins)
11. Sitiveni Sivivatu (Clermont)
12. Luke Macalister (Toulon)
13. Jared Payne (Ulster)
14. Joe Rokocoko (Bayonne)
15. Bruce Reihana (Bordeaux)

About as much as I can manage (and I was really stretching in the forwards)