RaboDirect Pro 12 - Scarlets vs Munster - 21/04/2012

   
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    RaboDirect Pro 12 - Scarlets vs Munster - 21/04/2012



    Parc y Scarlets, Llanelli (21/04/2012, 18:30)



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    Same situation as last year, if we loose this the top 4 is gone. And last year they beat us with a second string side!

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    Here are the teams:
    Scarlets: L Williams, G North, A Warren, S Jones, S Lamont, R Priestland, G Davies, R Jones, M Rees capt, D Manu, S Timani, D Day, A Shingler, J Turnbull, B Morgan.
    Replacements: E Phillips, P John, S Gardiner, M Gilbert, K Murphy, T Knoyle, J Williams, V Iongi.
    Munster: F Jones; L O'Dea; J Murphy; L Mafi; S Zebo; I Keatley; C Murray; D Kilcoyne; M Sherry; BJ Botha; M O'Driscoll; P O'Connell capt; D Ryan; T O'Donnell; P O'Mahony.
    Replacements: D Varley, W du Preez, S Archer, Donncha O'Callaghan, P Butler, T O'Leary, S Deasy, I Dineen

    Considering all the injuries we have that's not a bad team. Does anyone know if Ken's injured? Can't think why he'd be left out otherwise. Good to see Jordan Williams on the bench too, doubt he'll play(maybe he shouldn't) but it's good that he get's the exposure. Munster's side isn't the strongest but neither is ours, could go either way.

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    Steve Jones at 12...?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyRil View Post
    Steve Jones at 12...?!
    He was there last week after Foxy pulled out at the last minute, wasn't great but was solid.

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    I didnt think that jones at 12 played too bad tbh.. obv. would rather Foxy there or younger centre coming through, such as nic reynolds (unless he's injured)

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    Watching on S4C - whos that just got injured? O'Mahony?

    Whoever it was, it looked pretty bad and best of luck to them!

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    I have a general dislike for Alain Rollands. He did not help himself today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncTheDoodle View Post
    I have a general dislike for Alain Rollands. He did not help himself today.
    That knock-on decision was farcical.


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    Draw, could be worse, but were still in with a shout(at least until tomorrow, even more c'mon Treviso)

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    Our back play is in serious decline since January

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    Right I've spent a weekend in London meaning I've missed out on all the welsh action (Including Shane Farewell ).

    My facbook newsfeed is exploding with Scarlets fans going apes!it over Rolland's performance?? What was so bad about it now???
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    Rolland this week... Wayne Barnes last week... who will it be next week i wonder

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVH11 View Post
    Right I've spent a weekend in London meaning I've missed out on all the welsh action (Including Shane Farewell ).

    My facbook newsfeed is exploding with Scarlets fans going apes!it over Rolland's performance?? What was so bad about it now???
    I thought the main problem was that Rolland didn't enforce the law that the tackler has to release before grappling for the ball, and Munster took advantage of this all night, and particularity towards the end.

    However this should not take away from the fact that the Scarlets were the architects of their own demise in this game. They handed Munster both their try's on a silver platter with the first coming from a messed up lineout, and the second from extremely soft defence. Added to that, I thought there were way to many speculative offloads from the Scarlets that didn't stick, with Emyr Phillips' being the most costly in the dying minutes, where the Scarlets were building nicely to at least have a chance of a drop-goal.

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    Emyr Phillips offload was knocked on by the Munster hand. One of many things Rolland actually missed last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF_Cymro View Post
    Emyr Phillips offload was knocked on by the Munster hand. One of many things Rolland actually missed last night.
    Ah, must have missed that. Still doesn't change the fact that the Scarlets shot themselves in the foot during that 5 min period in the first half.
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    Munster got the 50/50 decisions from the ref and I say that as a Munster fan so I do have sympathy for the Scarlets.

    As for the match, Munster played as they usually do, like headless chickens. Badly coached headless chickens at that! At least the clearout has begun.

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    Scarlets lost the games themselves, blaming the reff is a scapegoat .

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    Quote Originally Posted by welshglory View Post
    Scarlets lost the games themselves, blaming the reff is a scapegoat .
    No blaming the reff is not a scapegoat especially when questionable calls were called late in the game against the Scarlets. Rolland was dire,as much as Scarlets ball retention was. Both were equally to blame for the loss.
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    It just get tiresome hearing people blaming the reff. We (welsh) seemt to do it a hell of a lot and its giving us a poor image. Last week it was Wayne Barnes for the Scarlets loss to Brive now it's Rolland. I think the Scarlets need to just be a bit more streetwise, obviously there were poor calls from Rolland but the Scarlets lost the breakdown battle themselves and didn't take their drop goal oppurtunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by welshglory View Post
    It just get tiresome hearing people blaming the reff. We (welsh) seemt to do it a hell of a lot and its giving us a poor image. Last week it was Wayne Barnes for the Scarlets loss to Brive now it's Rolland. I think the Scarlets need to just be a bit more streetwise, obviously there were poor calls from Rolland but the Scarlets lost the breakdown battle themselves and didn't take their drop goal oppurtunities.
    I agree with this. Streetwise, experienced, whatever you call it the scarlets do lack it, and it would help use win those important tight games. But its still down to the ref to give the penalties, and he ignored a vital one against Mafi that could cost the scarlets at the end of the season. I'm not bitter or anything, i'm just saying haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by welshglory View Post
    It just get tiresome hearing people blaming the reff. We (welsh) seemt to do it a hell of a lot and its giving us a poor image. Last week it was Wayne Barnes for the Scarlets loss to Brive now it's Rolland. I think the Scarlets need to just be a bit more streetwise, obviously there were poor calls from Rolland but the Scarlets lost the breakdown battle themselves and didn't take their drop goal oppurtunities.
    I didn't hear that, that loss was their own fault for missing kicks, being unable to scrum and just generally playing unintelligently