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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324804Cardiff City are to go ahead with plans to rebrand the club, including changing the kit from blue to red and introducing a new badge.
Some might go what's the fuss. For Cardiff City fansit's a big deal.
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That's what... Their 4th logo in 10 years?
Changing the colors to red... Man, fans are going to be pissed.
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Fans are going mad.
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Welsh club wears red, Welsh fans go nuts...
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This is my take... I am not a big football fan, but I suppose I support the Welsh clubs when it comes down to it. I am a proud Welshman, but I don't see the need to have a red shirt and dragon for every sports team. CCFC are the Blue Birds, why change it to another club wearing red? Now it looks like national kit and has no identity.
It's a huge deal. To the Cardiff City fan it's proof that money trumps history, tradition and probably most hurtful to the fan, the fans ideas. This change was mooted a few months ago, you'd have thought they'd suggested merging with Swansea such was the anger and vitriol to the potential change. The opposition to the change was, enough at the time to get it rejected but the clubs board have now confirmed their status as wanting the money is more important.
From the business point of view then the move makes sense; make a change so you get enough investment to make the club more stable and hopefully pay for the chance for Cardiff to get to the Premier League. Lost merchandising rights, less people buying the new home shirt or boycotting totally (which I have seen suggested today) is an acceptable price to pay for the riches playing at the very top level brings.
The bit that will resonate the most is the reasons why they went for red. It's not the Welsh angle, its because red is lucky in Asia where the investment is coming from. That is the kicker, they want new fans in an admittedly financially prosperous area for this sort of thing over their local fans who are the ones who will actually go to the games to support this team.
From here I envisage either the protests will be so great about the change then they revert back to their proper blue fairly soon or the investment will prove dividends and they get promoted and sustain Premier League status. Because of that more pressure will be heaped upon Malky Mackay and the playing staff to succeed in what is already a pressured environment given Cardiff's "oh so close, next year then" record of promotion challenges.
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Sam Hamman (sp) Tried this years ago, along with changing the name to Cardiff Dragons and it fell on its arse pretty fast.. Im sure if the away kit was red, home staying the traditional blue no-one would kick up as big of a fuss, as it stands all cardiff fans will be pissed tbh.. they aint the bluebirds for nothing..
That is what I was expecting, the away kit to be red but home to remain blue. Cardiff have worn red in the away kit in the past. 2004/2005 season they wore this;
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Lets not forget Wales already as a club that plays in red with two dragons on the top and are also called the dragons better known as Wrexham FC.
Nothing wrong with a team that always used red. Hey, why don't all English teams play in white shirts then?
As I said before it's more the connotations red has in Asia that prompted the change to red rather than the Wales link
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English fans don't harp on Country before club for months on end then flip opinion when it suits.
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Apart from when Cardiff might get promoted the whole "ENGLISH premier league" bollocks comes out and that Cardiff can't go up as they are Welsh etc.
At old red away kit, that's what i was expecting. Talking to my dad who's a fan he said that the TG guy is putting £90m odd into the club and the kit is to do with red = lucky colour in Malaysia etc. where all the home games are sent back to.. appears blue is gonna be the away kit though.
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To be honest I'm surprised I didn't hear that argument when Swansea went up, at the end of the day the English FA invited Swansea, Cardiff, Wrexham, Merthyr and Newport County into the English League System so they cant act indignant when they start doing well
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Doubt it, as Swansea are already up there and no fuss was made. Only fuss I've seen has been when Cardiff were in the FA Cup Final, and the ruling on whether they'd represent 'England' in Europe due to their participation in the Welsh FA Cup and the option of qualifying through that. Think all the Welsh teams involved in the FA league system can now only qualify through FA competitions, so that's all been cleared up.
With the red shirt and dragon symbol, apparently both are lucky symbols in asia apparently, so the Malaysian owners have seen Liverpool and Man Utd shirts do well over there and have thought 'oh we can capitalise on this!'.
Also, I heard it is £100million, so more than the £90million paycheck that clubs get for being promoted to the Premier League. While I understand the anger at the club losing it's identity, and cant believe that the owners would rather pander towards their fans thousands of miles away rather than those in Cardiff, imagine what they can do with all that money! They'd be out of debt (currently around £10million I think?) and I've heard plans for better training facilities, a possible stadium expansion (wonder if theyre gonna change all the blue on it?) as well as plenty of cash for new signings.
Gonna be weird seeing them in red as blue is Cardiffs colour, but this cash input could be what the club needs to finally get up to the premier league. If that doesn't happen soon, I can see the owners getting lynched by the fans!
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As a fan of the team that beat them and did go up I do not see where this as an issue has come from. As far as I know the whole "It's not on they are a welsh team" never came into it. It would be pretty hard to moan about Cardiff when they have won the F.A cup before and another welsh team is already in the top flight of the premiership.
The thing I was refering to was back in 2009-2010 iirc, when it was Cardiff v Blackpool in the play-off finals, I saw a fair amount of people going on about how Cardiff shouldn't get promoted due to the fact they are Welsh etc. Yet didnt see anything for Swansea.
Also yeah my bad was £100m was talking to my dad again earlier, their debt was paid off last Jan. afaik by TG, then the investment is going on a new training facility near the stadium ( I think it was anyway) and potential stadium increase if they get promoted as the design of it means the roof can just be lifted off and more seats added if that makes sense..(from what I've been told at least) the max is in the 40-50k range i've heard.
To the whole "welsh shouldn't go up" debate, Social networking sites were going ape with die hard hooligans going ape over swansea's promotion. At the end of the day its the FA's fault!
With the red colour, I bet if Cardiff are promoted, all will be forgotten. If they don't go up in next 2 seasons, S!!t will hit the fan!!!!! As it stands, don't ask a Cardiff fan in the city center how the feel about it, not a fun conversation to have!!!! :P
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Yeah a lot of my mates are die hard bluebirds fans, they're just saying that even if they do get promoted then it won't feel like it's Cardiff city doing it, but some other team
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