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    Guess Who's Back? Back Again For The Ospreys


    Back-row forward Tom Smith has done a U-turn to remain with the Ospreys rather than move to London Irish.

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    What do they have to do to get rid of him?

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    Why an earth have we re-signed Smith?

    I was delighted that the Ospreys had managed to offload both Smith and Griffiths to London Irish.

    Bringing back Smith just holds back James King. People keep saying that James King is a promising young player who has a big future, but he never gets more than a 10 minute cameo as the coaches prefer Smith, now King will never get in the team for another season as the coaches love Smith and think he is undroppable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychic duck View Post
    Why an earth have we re-signed Smith?

    I was delighted that the Ospreys had managed to offload both Smith and Griffiths to London Irish.

    Bringing back Smith just holds back James King. People keep saying that James King is a promising young player who has a big future, but he never gets more than a 10 minute cameo as the coaches prefer Smith, now King will never get in the team for another season as the coaches love Smith and think he is undroppable.
    I think/hope that was more when the mentalists were in charge.
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    Useless bloody player. I still can't get over the fact that Holley, Humph and Johnson made him captain for a cruntch HC game, and he pretty much single handedly looses us the game. He's one of those players that I don't get what the coaches see in him (along with Gavin Evans and those two useless hookers at the blues).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dullonien View Post
    Useless bloody player. I still can't get over the fact that Holley, Humph and Johnson made him captain for a cruntch HC game, and he pretty much single handedly looses us the game. He's one of those players that I don't get what the coaches see in him (along with Gavin Evans and those two useless hookers at the blues).
    I feel a 'highly-rated by some, but mostly useless, overblown XV' thread coming.
    Tyrrell is gone from what I have heard, Dull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big ginger 8 View Post
    I'd have Hartley as captain.
    It would certainly be the most controversial XV thread thus far. I could see many jimmies getting rustled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draggs View Post
    It would certainly be the most controversial XV thread thus far. I could see many jimmies getting rustled.
    Don't worry I won't do it but if anyone else wants to...

    unless Healy is the loosehead.



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    Quote Originally Posted by big ginger 8 View Post
    Don't worry I won't do it but if anyone else wants to...

    unless Healy is the loosehead.
    ...

    Aaaanyway...
    I am looking at this (Smith) from the Ospreys perspective. Yeah he is poor, but Ryan Jones is likely to miss about half of the season, JT is JT, Bearman is getting up there, and Stowers is poor. James King would be their sole blindside during international tournaments. I can see Sam Lewis playing more this season, with Tipuric likely to have a greater involvement with Wales. I hope Dan Baker will get a shot as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SelimNiai View Post
    Ok, that's not who my brain thought of first.
    I had that thought too, but the rumour mill among the people I know keeps insisting that the person we both thought of could be going to London Welsh how that they have won their appeal and have been promoted to the Premiership!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dullonien View Post
    Useless bloody player. I still can't get over the fact that Holley, Humph and Johnson made him captain for a cruntch HC game, and he pretty much single handedly looses us the game. He's one of those players that I don't get what the coaches see in him (along with Gavin Evans and those two useless hookers at the blues).
    100% agree with you dullonien.

    The worst bit of that match, was that we accommodated him in the side by fitting two back rowers (Ryan Jones and Jonathan Thomas) into the second row, and left Ian Evans on the bench, and to no surprise without a proper lock on the pitch the lineout didn't function well. Crazy selection from the management. And to add that Smith missed a straightforward tackle and got sin binned in the match.

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    Tyrrell is gone from what I have heard, Dull.
    Where have you heard that? Couldn't find anything on it on Google search.

    If true then the Blues have finally done something right.

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    Aaaanyway...
    I am looking at this (Smith) from the Ospreys perspective. Yeah he is poor, but Ryan Jones is likely to miss about half of the season, JT is JT, Bearman is getting up there, and Stowers is poor. James King would be their sole blindside during international tournaments. I can see Sam Lewis playing more this season, with Tipuric likely to have a greater involvement with Wales. I hope Dan Baker will get a shot as well.
    I see your point but .....

    Ryan Jones should be at 6 for all the most important matches like Heineken Cup and a few RaboPro12 matches. James King (if he is as good as some say, I haven't been able to judge as he only ever gets 10 minutes from the bench normally) should be 6 for the RaboPro12 team during the 6 Nations and Autumn Internationals.

    So he shouldn't play in either side, and I would rather a youngster (like Baker perhaps) who would benefit more to be on the bench than Smith, who is 26 nearly 27 and has had plenty of chances.

    Seriously we don't need Smith, or there are other better options.

    (I would love it the coaches really thought of something original and signed the Kazakhstani beastly back rower Anton Rudoy, trust me he is like a replica Gorgodze in size and running ability and scores hat trick for fun in the Russian league)

    The worst thing is though is that the coaches are in love with Smith, they see him as undroppable and he plays every single match despite doing little or nothing when on the pitch and he will mean King won't get much game time. He was named the Coaches' player of the year last season (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbyna...1466-30845214/) which just proves that he is the coaches pet and that is almost certainly why they bothered to keep him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF_Cymro View Post
    Henson > London Welsh rumours was on the cards as soon as he was sacked by the Blues and Lyn Jones defended him in the press.
    The rumours strengthen....

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    http://www.inmycommunity.com.au/news...-side/7621599/
    Tyrrell now plays for the Cardiff Blues in Europe and has signed to the Melbourne Rebels for next season.
    http://twf.com.au/showthread.php?t=30573

    Can't find anything concrete, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draggs View Post
    ...

    Aaaanyway...
    I am looking at this (Smith) from the Ospreys perspective. Yeah he is poor, but Ryan Jones is likely to miss about half of the season, JT is JT, Bearman is getting up there, and Stowers is poor. James King would be their sole blindside during international tournaments. I can see Sam Lewis playing more this season, with Tipuric likely to have a greater involvement with Wales. I hope Dan Baker will get a shot as well.
    JT and Stowers are better player than Tom Smith though! If Smith is kept as 5th choice blindside or something similar, only to be played when necessary, then I could understand him staying, and he'd be a pretty decent squad player. But if he's being selected ahead of the likes of Ryan Jones, JT, King etc. at 6 then he's just a complete hindrance. It's not his fault, but the coaches, and unfortunately the signs towards the end of last season were that Tandy seemed to quite like him aswell, because he was still involved with the matchday squads, despite the fact he was meant to be leaving.

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    Hopefully. He was bloody terrible. Breeze was worse mind. No idea why Rhys Williams wasn't given more gametime in front of those two goons, he has genuine potential.

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