Super Rugby play-offs: Stormers - Sharks in Cape Town (28/07/2012)

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Newlands, Cape Town


Referee: Steve Walsh
Referee: Jaco Peyper
Referee: Marius Jonker
Referee: Shaun Veldsman

[TRF_Ezequiel]

This season:

Stormers 15-12 Sharks in round 2
Crusaders 19-24 Chiefs in round 3
Sharks 25-20 Stormers in round 14
Chiefs 21-28 Crusaders in round 17


Other head-to-head matches of the 4 remaining teams:

Crusaders 31-24 Stormers in round 8
Sharks 12-18 Chiefs in round 9

Stormers and Chiefs didn't meet each other this year, neither did the Crusaders and Sharks

[nemui10pm]

I'll be cheering for the Sharks to win so that the final would be in New Zealand, but the Stormer would probably get this one. They are playing at home against the Sharks who had to travel to Australia and back and their rock solid defense would suit finals rugby.

[Shaggy]

The Stormers are a tough nut to crack defensively, particularly at home, but I think the sharksare a good chance, as the momentum is certainly with them at the moment ... I guess most of New Zealand will be cheering them on

[Little Guy]

Fourie looked good at #8 last week which was a good sign considering Sinclair isn't available for the playoffs. There probably wasn't a team in Super Rugby that needed the extra week of rest more than the Stormers, and thank goodness Aplon is OK after that devastating knockout he suffered last week. If it comes down to goal kicking Grant is a match for Michalak, if there is a fly half that can unlock the Stormers defence it's the mercurial Michalak, although the opposite could happen depending on what Freddie shows up at game time.

Like you said though Shags, momentum is with the Sharks and I think the teams are fairly evenly matched in many facets. Last time the two played the Sharks scrum was overpowering the Stormers who will have to up their game for sure in this facet, easier said than done against a solid front five that Natal have. Stormers should have a big crowd out at Newlands in their favour and after last years playoff disspointment I think they will be extra motivated.

[welshglory]

Vermuelen's back in training isn't he?

[TRF_Darwin]

Go the Sharks! I don't think either the Chiefs or Crusaders will beat the Stormers in South Africa, but I think they would have a much better chance of beating Sharks in New Zealand....

This should be a good game - at this stage I'd think the Stormers will be favourites, but I will wait until I've seen the lineups before making any predictions....

[Dizzy]

Go the Sharks! I don't think either the Chiefs or Crusaders will beat the Stormers in South Africa, but I think they would have a much better chance of beating Sharks in New Zealand....

This should be a good game - at this stage I'd think the Stormers will be favourites, but I will wait until I've seen the lineups before making any predictions....

I actually disagree. I think both the Chiefs and Crusaders will have a chance of beating the Stormers in SA..

[TRF_Darwin]

I actually disagree. I think both the Chiefs and Crusaders will have a chance of beating the Stormers in SA..

No-one is saying the Chiefs or Crusaders don't have a chance of beating the Stormers in South Africa. I'm just suggesting that the Chiefs/Crusaders will have a much better chance of winning when playing at home against a Sharks team who have won less than 50% of their away matches this season, rather than away against a Stormers team who are unbeaten at home this season.......

[Dizzy]

No-one is saying the Chiefs or Crusaders don't have a chance of beating the Stormers in South Africa. I'm just suggesting that the Chiefs/Crusaders will have a much better chance of winning when playing at home against a Sharks team who have won less than 50% of their away matches this season, rather than away against a Stormers team who are unbeaten at home this season.......

Go the Sharks! I don't think either the Chiefs or Crusaders will beat the Stormers in South Africa, but I think they would have a much better chance of beating Sharks in New Zealand....

This should be a good game - at this stage I'd think the Stormers will be favourites, but I will wait until I've seen the lineups before making any predictions....

Sorry Darwin but I'm pretty sure you were the one who said it.

[TRF_Darwin]

Sorry Darwin but I'm pretty sure you were the one who said it.

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I stated I didn't think that the Chiefs/Crusaders would beat the Stormers in South Africa - by this I meant that the Stormers would be favorites in such a match (and I still firmly believe this). In no way was that meant to suggest that the Chiefs/Crusaders have no chance of beating the Stormers (as you seemed to suggest)! Being underdogs in a match is very different to having no chance in a match

I stick by my original statement: There is a much higher chance of a New Zealand team winning the tournament if the Sharks win this match.....

[Shovenose]

I actually disagree. I think both the Chiefs and Crusaders will have a chance of beating the Stormers in SA..

Good point there as somehow half of Cape Town turn red and black for some reasonl I guess a lot of Saders fans hiding in Cape Town. Dunno bout the Chiefs though. But 3 of the biggest chokers are in the Semi's

[HB Scot]

Darwin...
Would have to agree with you there, that from Chiefs or Crusaders perspective a Sharks win is order of the day.

[TRF_Ezequiel]

I wouldn't call Chiefs and Stormers chokers already. Both have only lost 1 final yet. Not much you can call choking.

[Shovenose]

Do not look the amount they competed in but look at how they played during the season and ended up losing in a semi or the final. Stormers have failed badly after showing promise during the season in a couple of semi's. Chiefs lost badly in that one final they played in. It was like they were out of they league. Last year the Stormers losing to the Crusaders as well.

[TRF_Ezequiel]

The Stormers only really got into contention in 2010. Before that, they made the play-offs only once. You cannot really call them chokers. They are more a team building towards a title.

Chiefs is actually the same thing. Making the play-offs 8 years ago and in 2009 losing the final against the Bulls at Loftus. Not really choking there either.

[Shovenose]

The Stormers only really got into contention in 2010. Before that, they made the play-offs only once. You cannot really call them chokers. They are more a team building towards a title.

Chiefs is actually the same thing. Making the play-offs 8 years ago and in 2009 losing the final against the Bulls at Loftus. Not really choking there either.

Well I can remember by beloved Stormers falling to a mediocre Highlanders side at Newlands when the played so well to top the log. Pay dispute or not they still were terrible. Losing to the Crusaders at home and then that final against the Bulls where they were basically never in that game. Bulls won their home semi's and gone on to win it.

[TRF_Ezequiel]

The Stormers and Sharks will face each other in a battle for a place in the final. We've arrived at a stage where only 4 teams are left and Both the South African and the New Zealand conference have delivered 2 semi-finalists. With the teams facing their domestic opponent, we are guaranteed a SA-NZ final. Who will represent the Rainbow Nation in the final? Can the Stormers make it to their second final in 3 years? Or will the Sharks appear in their 4th final? What does history tell us? And will it even be an indicator of what is to come? Lets find out!

For the Stormers it's the fifth time they are in the play-offs in which they made the final once. The question is not if the Stormers will win the Super Rugby trophy, but when. Being the most consistent team over the last 3 years in South Africa, they have shown great form and after ending 2nd twice, they topped the log for the first time in history this season. The Stormers are the only team in Super Rugby who managed to beat all 5 teams from New Zealand in a single season back in 2010 and while it looks nice on paper, it doesn't fill the trophy cabinet in Cape Town. After winning the South African conference twice since the introduction of the new format, the Stormers fans want the big one. Can they do it? They have to get past a fearless Sharks team first.

The first ever match of either team in this competition was a match where they played each other. Back in 1996, the Western Province, as they were called before transforming to the Stormers, travelled to Durban and a match with 3 tries each was won by the home-side. It would only be week 7 before the Cape Town team would win a match. The season was not succesful and WP was replaced as the lowest ranked SA team, by the Free State Cheetahs. All in all the 2 teams played each other 18 times, of which 8 times in Cape Town.

1996:	Sharks	28 - 22	Stormers
1998:	Sharks	32 - 17	Stormers
1999:	Stormers	35-19	Sharks
2000:	Sharks	28 - 32	Stormers
2001:	Stormers	19 - 23	Sharks
2002:	Sharks	18 - 25	Stormers
2003:	Stormers	40 - 18	Sharks
2004:	Sharks	24 - 31	Stormers
2005:	Stormers	26 - 12	Sharks
2006:	Sharks	24 - 17	Stormers
2007:	Stormers	10 - 36	Sharks
2008:	Sharks	12 - 10	Stormers
2009:	Stormers	15 - 20	Sharks
2010:	Sharks	20 - 14	Stormers
2011:	Sharks	6 - 16	Stormers
2011:	Stormers	32 - 12	Sharks
2012:	Stormers	15 - 12	Sharks
2012:	Sharks	25 - 20	Stormers

In Cape Town the Stormers have won 5 out of 8 against the Sharks. In Durban the Sharks have won 6 out of 10 against the Stormers. This means that home-advantage is not that important when these 2 teams play. An interesting stat to take into consideration in the build-up towards this encounter. During the 2012 season the Stormers have only lost 2 matches, ironically against the Crusaders and the Sharks, while they missed out on the Chiefs. For the Sharks it's almost the same. They lost to the Stormers and Chiefs, while missing out on the Crusaders. One of the big men for the Cape Town team is Gio Aplon, who has scored 7 tries so far this season, including 1 in Durban against Saturday's opponent. He is the team's top try-scorer and the main reason the team has won 14 matches. Despite missing out on 4-try bonuspoints in every win this season, the Stormers look deadly once they go on attack.

The Stormers lack attacking skills and depth and that shows in the fact that they are the team with the lowest number of tries scored. The Stormers only got to 28 tries, an average of less than 2 per match, while even the Force and Lions managed more (both got to 30). On defense however, the Stormers are by far the best team in the competition. The main reason for that is the tight structure the team is using and the leadership of the only remaining veteran, Jean de Villiers, has proven to be very valuable. Schalk Burger and Andries Bekker have missed a fair amount of matches this season and while youngsters managed to fill in the empty spots, the lack of experience was visible and the current Bok captain has helped the youngsters to cope with the high expectations.

When looking at the Sharks, it's a whole different story. The biggest impact on the Sharks-side this season, comes from a player who is widely considered as the best hooker in the world. Bismarck du Plessis had to compete with John Smit for years and despite being the better hooker, the experience and captaincy of John Smit gave him a free pass to the starting role as hooker for too long, as far as Sharks-fans are considered. 2012 is the year of Bismarck. In a front-row with brother Jannie du Plessis and Tendai 'Beast' Mtawarira he has looked in fine form and he is without a doubt the most dangerous hooker on attack, has a fantastic feel for turn-overs and was instrumental in one of the most convincing wins of the season, at home against the Bulls. When Bismarck starts to run with the ball in hand, he knows how to find his teammates and he is a major threat to the Stormers.

The Sharks' biggest depth has been the back-row in recent years. With guys like Kankowski, Daniel, Alberts and Deysel there were 4 Springboks in the squad for 3 positions. This season however, a fifth warrior has joined the group. The young, versatile, quick, strong and all-round Marcell Coetzee made his Super Rugby debut last season but it was this season when the world was there to watch him in full glory. He scored his first try of the season in the final round of the season against the Cheetahs, but that try showed his skills perfectly. While playing at blind-side, he used the vision of a no.8 and the speed of an opee-side flanker to break the line and score the 5 points. His effort is relentless and he just doesn't hold back at all. Only 21 years old at the moment, but he is one to watch, not just for the future, but for this Saturday as well. The Sharks might have the edge when Coetzee is on a roll.

So who will win? It is a really tough call. The last time the Sharks won at Newlands was in 2009 but last week I told you guys it was also a while ago since the Sharks won in Brisbane. They beat the Reds after that. The Sharks are the form-team at the moment, while the Stormers had a well-waited bye-week in the build up to this cracking encounter. The people in New Zealand might be cheering for the Sharks, since that will mean the final is played in New Zealand. Who will win? We will find out on Saturday.

[Feicarsinn]

INB4 BG8 says good write up.

[big ginger 8]

INB4 BG8 says good write up.

Wow skill.

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Vermeulen in doubt for Stormers Semi-final

Stormers strongman Duane Vermeulen is still in doubt for their home Super Rugby Semi-final against the Sharks at Newlands on Saturday.
http://www.superxv.com/news/super15_...s.asp?id=35996

[Gena_ZA]

No need to argue about this one lads, Stormers to win and Eze to go on meds for depression
Chiefs to take Saders as well

[heineken]

No need to argue about this one lads, Stormers to win and Eze to go on meds for depression
Chiefs to take Saders as well

I think the Stormers will beat the Sharks, by less than 7 and the Crusaders will beat the Chiefs...

[TRF_Ezequiel]

No need to argue about this one lads, Stormers to win and Eze to go on meds for depression
Chiefs to take Saders as well

I thought we were friends I guess rugby trumps everything haha. May the best team win and go all the way!

[TRF_Ezequiel]

No need to argue about this one lads, Stormers to win and Eze to go on meds for depression
Chiefs to take Saders as well

I thought we were friends I guess rugby trumps everything haha. May the best team win and go all the way!

[Gena_ZA]

Friendships resumes on Mondays after the game, unless one watches it together, then we just keep drinking
In the match week we say things we should not, shit happens bud

[TRF_Ezequiel]

I guess you will have to congratulate me on monday then.

[Gena_ZA]

I guess you will have to congratulate me on monday then.

Kiss my ass, then again better if not
Nah, I'll do it now

"Well done on a good effort, but your team just wasn't up to the brutality of the Stormers"

[lynam1104]

Burn.

I reckon the shark momentum will be a big factor they looked in another class against the reds. However the Stomers will be tough to beat at home.

[Gena_ZA]

This approach is far too aggressive for my nature, I back down like a poodle to a Pit Bull

Back to rugga:

I think a lot will depend on 4 key areas

- The availability of Duanne Vermeulen as without him the Sharks will dominate the collision and breakdown points, especially if they can nullify Skolisi
- Whether the two young centres of the Sharks can handle the experience of the Stormers in a crunch game like this
- Will the "better" front row of the Sharks fire or backfire like in the first match against the Stormers this year
- will the travelling catch up to the Sharks