2012 ANZAC Test

   
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    2012 ANZAC Test

    The much anticipated mid-season 2012 ANZAC test is scheduled for this weekend and will be played at Eden Park in Auckland. The series is 11-1 in Australia's favour although the last two matches have been very close and the previous NZ win was in Auckland in 1998.

    Perhaps the Kiwis can turn the upset again on home soil, there has been some controversy with James Tamou being selected by the Roos, as well news of Australia keeping a "file" of supposed Kiwi dirty play is adding to the tensions. Hopefully this will lead to a high intensity game.

    Here are your lineups.

    Australian Kangaroos:

    Starters: Billy Slater, Darius Boyd, Greg Inglis, Justin Hodges, Akuila Uate, Johnathan Thurston, Cooper Cronk, Paul Gallen (vc), Cameron Smith (c), David Shillington, David Taylor, Sam Thaiday, Luke Lewis.

    Interchange: Interchange: Daly Cherry-Evans, Ben Hannant, James Tamou, Anthony Watmough. 18th man: Matt Gillett.

    New Zealand Kiwis:

    Gerard Beale, Adam Blair, Jesse Bromwich, Nathan Fien, Alex Glenn, Josh Hoffman, Shaun Johnson, Shaun Kenny-Dowell, Issac Luke, Simon Mannering, Ben Matulino, Benji Marshall, Sam McKendry, Jason Nightingale, Jarad Warea-Hargraves, Frank Pritchard, Jeremy Smith, Jason Taumalolo, Manu Vatuvei

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    I think QLD...ahem, i mean...uhhh..Australia will rip NZs' heads off and s*** down their throats.


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    I see it going down a couple of ways:

    - Kangaroos start off with 8 tries in the first 20 minutes and it's game over. (Probability: 70%)
    - It's a very close game at half time, probably 14-10 at halftime. Then after the half, with about 10-15mins to go, the Kiwis whilst in possession (in a good position to win the game) at the Kangaroos line, will absolutely rubbish it; or on defence will commit a stupid and absolutely un-necessary penalty. Cue momentum shift and Australia will end up scoring 5 tries to end the game. (Probability: 85-95%)
    - The Kiwis win after a lucky break in play in the last ~5 or so minutes. (Probability: 55%)

    Either way, I mostly see the Aussies winning this one.
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    Yeah I can only really see Australia winning this one. It always seems to be the way for the first test of the year, then the Kiwis will regroup and play well at the end of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    I see it going down a couple of ways:

    - Kangaroos start off with 8 tries in the first 20 minutes and it's game over. (Probability: 70%)
    - It's a very close game at half time, probably 14-10 at halftime. Then after the half, with about 10-15mins to go, the Kiwis whilst in possession (in a good position to win the game) at the Kangaroos line, will absolutely rubbish it; or on defence will commit a stupid and absolutely un-necessary penalty. Cue momentum shift and Australia will end up scoring 5 tries to end the game. (Probability: 85-95%)
    - The Kiwis win after a lucky break in play in the last ~5 or so minutes. (Probability: 55%)

    Either way, I mostly see the Aussies winning this one.
    Wooo hell yeah, there's enough possibility for 2 and a half games!


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    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    Yeah I can only really see Australia winning this one. It always seems to be the way for the first test of the year, then the Kiwis will regroup and play well at the end of the year.



    Wooo hell yeah, there's enough possibility for 2 and a half games!
    Yeah I saw that and was confused, it's not a best of three....

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    Idd, Kangaroos to win it, but the Kiwi's will give them a good game.
    Why isn't Moimoi in the squad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    Yeah I can only really see Australia winning this one. It always seems to be the way for the first test of the year, then the Kiwis will regroup and play well at the end of the year.



    Wooo hell yeah, there's enough possibility for 2 and a half games!
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Guy View Post
    Yeah I saw that and was confused, it's not a best of three....
    lol sorry, should've made myself clear.

    Either any of those three were my predictions of what would happen in the game.

    Not what will happen if there were three games.

    Come on guys! Comprehension!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amobokoboko View Post
    Why isn't Moimoi in the squad?
    He's fat and lazy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    lol sorry, should've made myself clear.

    Either any of those three were my predictions of what would happen in the game.

    Not what will happen if there were three games.

    Come on guys! Comprehension!
    There is only 100% in a game though so your probabilities should add up to something at the very least close to this.

    For example I say Australia has a 75-80% chance of winning therefore New Zealand has a 20-25% chance of winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Guy View Post
    There is only 100% in a game though so your probabilities should add up to something at the very least close to this.

    For example I say Australia has a 75-80% chance of winning therefore New Zealand has a 20-25% chance of winning.
    *sigh* nevermind. I cbf. explaining it. TBh, shouldn't have put the priobability bits in there if I'd known the internet logic nazis would turn up.


    I was basically trying to say, that out of the 3 ways I see this game possibly going down, only one of them is NZ winning - and only barely at that!

    IS THAT OK WITH YOU SIR!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    *sigh* nevermind. I cbf. explaining it. TBh, shouldn't have put the priobability bits in there if I'd known the internet logic nazis would turn up.


    I was basically trying to say, that out of the 3 ways I see this game possibly going down, only one of them is NZ winning - and only barely at that!

    IS THAT OK WITH YOU SIR!?
    Yes, and don't worry me and Melon were just having a bit of a **** take, I actually liked your scenarios as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Guy View Post
    Yes, and don't worry me and Melon were just having a bit of a **** take, I actually liked your scenarios as well.
    No worries.


    Not a lot of confidence in the kiwis. How many times have we seen a side and think - "yeah maybe this is the side to finalyl do it". Only to fall, and fall badly.

    Johnson/Marshall combo looks lethal though.
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    Anyone care to have a yellow card/sin bin wager? I say 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    Anyone care to have a yellow card/sin bin wager? I say 4.
    Care to elaborate?

    Unfortunately I'm obscenely ignorant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    Care to elaborate?

    Unfortunately I'm obscenely ignorant.
    ..A wager on how many sin-bins (i.e. when player(s) has committed a foul or offence that warrants the referee to send said player(s) to the sideline for ten minutes) occur during aforementioned match.

    In such a wager, the aim is to correctly estimate or as accurately as possible, the frequency of such decisions by the referee.

    This total should be inclusive of both teams' tally at the end of the game, and contains no tangible prize or trophy - apart form the pride you take for correctly guesstimating such a value.

    Comprende?
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    Quote Originally Posted by admartian View Post
    ..A wager on how many sin-bins (i.e. when player(s) has committed a foul or offence that warrants the referee to send said player(s) to the sideline for ten minutes) occur during aforementioned match.

    In such a wager, the aim is to correctly estimate or as accurately as possible, the frequency of such decisions by the referee.

    This total should be inclusive of both teams' tally at the end of the game, and contains no tangible prize or trophy - apart form the pride you take for correctly guesstimating such a value.

    Comprende?
    Now I'm picking up what you're putting down. Thank you for your comprehensive explanation. You are a true gentleman. I think I'd be well and truly ****ed if I had to do without your seemingly superior intelligence from here on in.

    I thought you were referring to something else, but the obviousness of it is a tad embarrassing...the meaning was staring me right in the face!

    I counter your wager with.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    Now I'm picking up what you're putting down. Thank you for your comprehensive explanation. You are a true gentleman. I think I'd be well and truly ****ed if I had to do without your seemingly superior intelligence from here on in.

    I thought you were referring to something else, but the obviousness of it is a tad embarrassing...the meaning was staring me right in the face!

    I counter your wager with.....

    I tip my top-hat to you, and raise my monocle and pocket watch as a sign of agreement.


    Wait, 0?I can see some overzealous guys wanting to take Tamou's head off getting binned.

    In a test like this, I think 1 is the minimum.
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    I see where you're coming from, however the international rules are always more relaxed and despite any tough talk they always seem to behave more nowadays. Rather than any stupid hits in regular play, I think there'll be niggling in back play and a bit little bit of fisty-cuffs but there never really seems to be any discipline handed out unless of course it's a full on bash-a-thon.

    I stand with zero!

    ....Now I have this feeling there'll be an all-in after a huge hit and the two initial players involved will be given time in the bin....

    The seed of doubt has been sewn.
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    Both Tim Sheens and Stephen Kearney are enthusiast about the game. Can't wait
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    What the hell was with that???!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?

    The Kangaroos don't need to be dirty and to be cheats to win the game... That was just uncalled for.

    Don't live up to your stereotype guys....
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    Wow.

    Magic Johnson indeed.
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    Fantastic try by Johnson in his debut. Kiwis should have had a penalty try in the first half
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    12 - 20 to Australia. New Zealand need 2 tries to win
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    Not a bad game. Really enjoyed, pity the Kiwis lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermanshire View Post
    Fantastic try by Johnson in his debut. Kiwis should have had a penalty try in the first half
    Are you referring to the Slater sin binning?

    A penalty try can only be awarded if it was an almost certainty that the player who had foul committed against him was going to score.

    Watmough was charging through to save the day so there was a possibility he may have stopped the try, therefore no penalty try.


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    I enjoyed the game, result was around what I expected. I'm thinking the Kiwis will win another one eventually in the series as the last several years have all been pretty close contests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    Are you referring to the Slater sin binning?

    A penalty try can only be awarded if it was an almost certainty that the player who had foul committed against him was going to score.

    Watmough was charging through to save the day so there was a possibility he may have stopped the try, therefore no penalty try.
    Still cheating though.

    Was un-necessary as the Kangaroos didn't have to do that - could win the game with any of that. But any aciton like that speaks volumes baut a team's ability or belief in themselves.

    That, or certain teams are naturally like that...


    WEither way, good to see it wasn't an embarassing display from the kiwis.
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    So admartian, it seems I won the sin-bin bet by default as I was closer!
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