MMA/UFC thread

+ Post a Reply
Page 22 of 24 FirstFirst ... 122021222324 LastLast
  1. #421
    Senior Member

    Tigs Man's Avatar

    • Japan
    • 10,277 posts
    • Joined: Dec 2013
    • From: LimerDick
    • Mentioned
      19 Post(s)
    Leicester
    So is MMA an art form or not?
    "Can I borrow a feelin'?
    Could you lend me a jar of love?
    Hurtin' hearts need some healin',
    Take my hand with your glove of love."

    President of the Sunwolves appreciation group.

  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many
     

  3. #422
    English Arrogance

    TRF_Olyy's Avatar

    • England
    • 26,936 posts
    • Joined: Apr 2008
    • From: Lichfield(ish), UK
    • Mentioned
      21 Post(s)
    Sale
    Depends if you're a crusty old millionaire who only comes down off their ivory tower to tell the plebs how to live their lives and collect awards or not.


    Do find it kind of ironic someone from hollywood, notoriously cliquey and (for want of a better description) white, chooses MMA as what an anti-immigration future will leave behind.
    MMA by definition is incredibly inclusive, it takes martial arts from all over the world and mixes them together.
    Looking at the UFC champs there's two white American champions and one of those is the son of immigrants. Of the others you have three African Americans, one Polynesian American, English, Irish, Polish and two Brazilians (with one who is openly gay).
    Just straight up ignorance, really.
    Last edited by TRF_Olyy; 09-01-17 at 10:42 PM.

  4. #423
    Senior Member

    Tigs Man's Avatar

    • Japan
    • 10,277 posts
    • Joined: Dec 2013
    • From: LimerDick
    • Mentioned
      19 Post(s)
    Leicester
    Yep, find it so annoying when Someone finds out your into MMA when they aren't, some of the snooty comments they say get on my tits "oh I don't watch it , it's barbaric" etc etc etc. And it is always the same type of person who says it aswell.

    I'm not a Rousey fan but she helped a lot in getting rid of stigmas.

    Hate it when arts looks down on sports. (Although Basketball seems to get a free rid a lot of the time for some reason.
    "Can I borrow a feelin'?
    Could you lend me a jar of love?
    Hurtin' hearts need some healin',
    Take my hand with your glove of love."

    President of the Sunwolves appreciation group.

  5. #424
    Senior Member

    • Argentina
    • 1,197 posts
    • Joined: Sep 2011
    • From: Yurop
    • Mentioned
      6 Post(s)
    CASI
    I'd say no, it ain't.

  6. #425
    Senior Member

    ratsapprentice's Avatar

    • England
    • 9,481 posts
    • Joined: Jan 2013
    • Mentioned
      43 Post(s)
    England
    Does it matter... I find the obfuscation about what is and isn't art very dull... it all ends up being utterly semantic.

  7. #426
    Senior Member

    Tigs Man's Avatar

    • Japan
    • 10,277 posts
    • Joined: Dec 2013
    • From: LimerDick
    • Mentioned
      19 Post(s)
    Leicester
    I wasn't asking a genuine question.
    "Can I borrow a feelin'?
    Could you lend me a jar of love?
    Hurtin' hearts need some healin',
    Take my hand with your glove of love."

    President of the Sunwolves appreciation group.

  8. #427
    Senior Member

    Tigs Man's Avatar

    • Japan
    • 10,277 posts
    • Joined: Dec 2013
    • From: LimerDick
    • Mentioned
      19 Post(s)
    Leicester
    Does anyone really think McGregor could beat Money Mayweather at boxing.
    "Can I borrow a feelin'?
    Could you lend me a jar of love?
    Hurtin' hearts need some healin',
    Take my hand with your glove of love."

    President of the Sunwolves appreciation group.

  9. #428
    English Arrogance

    TRF_Olyy's Avatar

    • England
    • 26,936 posts
    • Joined: Apr 2008
    • From: Lichfield(ish), UK
    • Mentioned
      21 Post(s)
    Sale
    No, and if they do they're fools.
    McGregor won a few amateur titles as a kid, Mayweather is one of the best boxers to have ever lived. McGregor has very slick MMA boxing but that's not comparable to the actual sport of boxing. It's like saying Johnny May is really quick so he should run the 100m in the Olympics.

    He brought in a....South African? boxer in his camp for the 2nd Diaz fight and tape of them sparring got leaked (because McGregor's camp showed some clips of him landing on this Saffer guy) and McGregor just got completely schooled by this guy.

    If he took time away from MMA to focus 100% on boxing then I've no doubt that he could do well in the sport, but going in as an MMA fighter? Wouldn't even be close.

  10. #429
    Senior Member

    • Argentina
    • 1,197 posts
    • Joined: Sep 2011
    • From: Yurop
    • Mentioned
      6 Post(s)
    CASI
    Course not. MMA practicioners are, in a way, jacks of all trades. They are not the best at anything but they are quite good at everything (Punching, elbowing, kicking, takedown, takedown defense, wrestling, BJJ) and they also are good at knowing what to do, when against whom. That is what makes them so dangerous. The point is not beating your opponent at what he is best at, quite the contrary. It is finding his weakness and exploiting it.

    If a mma fighter faces a wrestler he'll try to keep his distance and destroy the wrestler with leg kicks, if he faces a boxer he will kick/take it to the ground, and so on.
    Their tools are not the sharpest but they got more tools than any other single sport combat practitioner.

    No one in their right mind thinks an mma guy can beat the best boxer at boxing nor the best wrestler at wrestling.

    Olyy's 100m example is spot on.

  11. #430
    English Arrogance

    TRF_Olyy's Avatar

    • England
    • 26,936 posts
    • Joined: Apr 2008
    • From: Lichfield(ish), UK
    • Mentioned
      21 Post(s)
    Sale
    BJ Penn got merked this morning.
    As flashy as Yair Rodriguez is, it was just depressing to watch. Penn is such a legend of the sport but he had no right being in that fight, should've hung them up after his last fight, the terrible showing vs Edgar, and that was 2.5yrs ago.
    Hell he probably should've hung them up after the fight before, vs McDonald, which was in 2012!

    Hopefully he does call it a day now, for his health's sake, if not his legacy's.

  12. #431
    Senior Member

    • Argentina
    • 1,197 posts
    • Joined: Sep 2011
    • From: Yurop
    • Mentioned
      6 Post(s)
    CASI
    broke my heart a bit. Loved his fighting style.

  13. #432
    Senior Member

    Tigs Man's Avatar

    • Japan
    • 10,277 posts
    • Joined: Dec 2013
    • From: LimerDick
    • Mentioned
      19 Post(s)
    Leicester
    Anyone else watching tonight.
    "Can I borrow a feelin'?
    Could you lend me a jar of love?
    Hurtin' hearts need some healin',
    Take my hand with your glove of love."

    President of the Sunwolves appreciation group.

  14. #433
    English Arrogance

    TRF_Olyy's Avatar

    • England
    • 26,936 posts
    • Joined: Apr 2008
    • From: Lichfield(ish), UK
    • Mentioned
      21 Post(s)
    Sale
    You knows it.
    Such a stacked card for a fight night, rivals/bests 208.
    Just a shame it's in Denver because you can see the altitude having an effect on the fighters.

    Edit:
    I love Caceres, he's such a weeb. Has walked out in full on anime outfits and to the theme tunes before (naruto and cowboy beebop) and got into martial arts because of Dragon Ball Z
    Last edited by TRF_Olyy; 29-01-17 at 01:18 AM.

  15. #434
    Senior Member

    • Ireland
    • 9,963 posts
    • Joined: Sep 2009
    • From: Munster
    • Mentioned
      22 Post(s)
    Munster
    So is McGregor close to retiring or what?
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

  16. #435
    English Arrogance

    TRF_Olyy's Avatar

    • England
    • 26,936 posts
    • Joined: Apr 2008
    • From: Lichfield(ish), UK
    • Mentioned
      21 Post(s)
    Sale
    I hope so.
    He's a fantastic fighter but I'm ****ing sick of him.
    He's just posturing for more money/stock/whatever.
    He also changes his story every other interview. Initially he was taking a year off for his kid, then he said he'll be back in may after the kid is born, then he said he wants to fight again before the kids born, now he says his next fight will be boxing and in December/January.

    I hope the UFC strip him of his lightweight title. He's already said he doesn't want to fight the number one contender (hence the interim title at UFC209) and if he's now saying he's not interested in an MMA fight for like 13 months then he should be stripped.

    Despite what he, and the people blowing smoke up his arse, thinks he is not bigger than the UFC.

  17. #436
    Senior Member

    • Ireland
    • 9,963 posts
    • Joined: Sep 2009
    • From: Munster
    • Mentioned
      22 Post(s)
    Munster
    Quote Originally Posted by TRF_Olyy View Post
    I hope so.
    He's a fantastic fighter but I'm ****ing sick of him.
    He's just posturing for more money/stock/whatever.
    He also changes his story every other interview. Initially he was taking a year off for his kid, then he said he'll be back in may after the kid is born, then he said he wants to fight again before the kids born, now he says his next fight will be boxing and in December/January.

    I hope the UFC strip him of his lightweight title. He's already said he doesn't want to fight the number one contender (hence the interim title at UFC209) and if he's now saying he's not interested in an MMA fight for like 13 months then he should be stripped.

    Despite what he, and the people blowing smoke up his arse, thinks he is not bigger than the UFC.
    Not disagreeing but isn't every fighter in it for the money?
    Like many peoples issue with McGregor is he isn't afraid to run his mouth and throw toys our of pram. But he's earnt a hell of alot of $$$ this way and knows
    1. Fighters are envious or jealous of that
    2. UFC have made alot too and he knows he can hold them ransom too.

    See issue is there's a lot of talent there but they aren't marketable.
    Like UFC has developed to point where antics out of ring are as valuable as fighting skill
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

  18. #437
    English Arrogance

    TRF_Olyy's Avatar

    • England
    • 26,936 posts
    • Joined: Apr 2008
    • From: Lichfield(ish), UK
    • Mentioned
      21 Post(s)
    Sale
    Depends whether you like MMA as a sport or UFC as an entertainment company. I love the sport which is why I watch bellator, Rizin, one, wsof etc.

    Everyone's in it for the money but no one has been gifted more opportunity than mcgregor has and he still ****s all over his employers and demands more.
    Fair play it's made him rich but it doesn't mean I have to like him.

  19. #438
    Senior Member

    The Alpha Bro's Avatar

    • Ireland
    • 6,382 posts
    • Joined: Dec 2010
    • From: Toulouse, so far from Gary! :(
    • Mentioned
      11 Post(s)
    Leinster
    The interim belt at 209 is rubbish though, the UFC is so badly run, award the guy who wins with a mandatory title match against McGregor, not with some fake belt. If McGregor refuses that then strip him. I think the fact its run like its the WWE lends itself to the **** McGregor does and is also why its looked down upon so much. I only have a passing interest in MMA, don't know anything outside of the UFC and don't like matchups without strikers but the marketing of their fighters and belts in the UFC is atrocious.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigs Man View Post
    Ringrose is a talent

  20. #439
    English Arrogance

    TRF_Olyy's Avatar

    • England
    • 26,936 posts
    • Joined: Apr 2008
    • From: Lichfield(ish), UK
    • Mentioned
      21 Post(s)
    Sale
    I agree, interim belt is BS, simply doesn't need to happen. Only reason I can think is they want it to be a 5rd fight, and that's reserved for title fights and main events. Even Khabib hates it, called the interim title number one bull****/the bull**** belt.

    I think the interim belt might be the ufc trying to make the Khabib fight happen, cause conor said he doesn't want it even though Khabib is the no.1 contender. They're very keen to break into the Russian market and a Khabib vs conor main event in moscow would be yuge. All hypothetical, obv, cause Ferguson vs Khabib is a massive fight and while I think Khabib will win it could go either way.

  21. #440
    Senior Member

    TheSaffycen's Avatar

    • England
    • 2,315 posts
    • Joined: Mar 2014
    • Mentioned
      12 Post(s)
    England
    They paid 4 billion for the UFC, they are giving out titles like its going out of fashion. Probably because they think belts = PPV buys.

    Separate note, Francis Ngannou is a scary beast, I thought Arlovski would be a difficult fight but he destroyed him.Don't kniw who next, maybe Rothwell?

+ Post a Reply
Page 22 of 24 FirstFirst ... 122021222324 LastLast
To reply to this topic you just need to register for a user name (it's free!)
Already a member? You need to login at the top right of this page to post a reply.