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    Cardiff Blues Rhys Gill (prop, Saracens), Kirby Myhill (hooker, Scarlets), George Earle (lock, Scarlets), Nick Williams (n8, Ulster), Steve Shingler (fly-half, Scarlets), Matthew Morgan (fly-half, Bristol), Willis Halaholo (centre, Hurricanes) Craig Mitchell (prop, Dragons), Sam Hobbs (prop, Dragons), Joe Jones (prop, Perpignan), Tom Davies (prop), Miles Normandale (lock, Rotherham), Lou Reed (lock), Chris Dicomidis (flanker), Manoa Vosawai (n8, Vannes), Rhys Patchell (fly-half, Scarlets), Tom Isaacs (centre), Gavin Evans (centre), Richard Smith (centre), Harry Davies (winger, Bath), Tom Williams (fullback, Scarlets)
    Connacht Conor Carey (prop, Nottingham), Marnitz Boshoff (fly-half, Lions), Eoin Griffin (centre, London Irish), Cian Kelleher (winger, Leinster) Rodney Ah You (prop, Ulster), Jason Harris-Wright (hooker), Aly Muldowney (lock, Grenoble), George Naoupu (n8), Ian Porter (scrum-half), A.J. McGinty (fly-half, Sale), Robbie Henshaw (centre, Leinster), Api Pewhairangi (centre), Fionn Carr (winger)
    Dragons Craig Mitchell (prop, Cardiff Blues), Sam Hobbs (prop, Cardiff Blues), Darran Harris (hooker, Rotherham), Pat Howard (centre, Northampton), Sam Beard (centre, Edinburgh), Adam Hughes (winger, Exeter), Nick McLeod (fullback, Sale) Hugh Gustafsson (hooker, Ospreys), Taulupe Faletau (n8, Bath), Jason Tovey (fly-half, Edinburgh), Matthew Pewtner (winger)
    Edinburgh Nick Beavon (prop, Melrose), Kevin Bryce (hooker, Glasgow), Duncan Weir (fly-half, Glasgow), Jason Tovey (fly-half, Dragons), Junior Rasolea (centre, Western Force), Rory Scholes (winger, Ulster), Alex Northam (winger, La Rochelle), Glenn Bryce (fullback, Glasgow) John Andress (prop, Munster), Grant Shiells (prop), Alex Toolis (lock), Mike Coman (flanker, London Irish), Greig Tonks (fly-half, London Irish), Nick McLennan (fly-half), Jade Te Rure (fly-half), Matt Scott (centre, Gloucester), Sam Beard (centre, Dragons), Andries Strauss (centre), Jack Cuthbert (fullback, Jersey)
    Glasgow Jarrod Firth (prop, Counties Manukau), Corey Flynn (hooker, Toulouse), Nemia Kenatale (scrum-half, Farul Constanta), Leonardo Sarto (winger, Zebre) Jerry Yanuyanutawa (prop), Michael Cusack (prop), Javan Sebastian (prop), Kevin Bryce (hooker, Edinburgh), Shalva Mamukashvili (hooker), Fergus Scott (hooker), Leone Nakarawa (lock, Racing 92), Andrew Davidson (lock, Newcastle), James Eddie (flanker), Tyrone Holmes (flanker), Will Bordill (flanker), Jason Hill (n8), Mike Blair (scrum-half), Duncan Weir (fly-half, Edinburgh), Gregor Hunter (fly-half), Robbie Ferguson (centre, London Scottish), Taqele Naiyaravoro (winger), Glenn Bryce (fullback, Edinburgh)
    Leinster Ian Nagle (lock, London Irish), Jamison Gibson-Park (scrum-half, Hurricanes), Robbie Henshaw (centre, Connacht) Marty Moore (prop, Wasps), Royce Burke-Flynn (prop), Aaron Dundon (hooker), Tom Denton (lock, Gloucester), Kevin McLaughlin (flanker), Isaac Boss (scrum-half), Ian Madigan (fly-half, Bordeaux-Bègles), Ben Te'o (centre, Worcester), Tom Farrell (centre, Bedford Blues), Collie O'Shea (centre), Cian Kelleher (winger, Connacht), Darragh Fanning (winger), Mick McGrath (winger)
    Munster John Andress (prop, Edinburgh), Darren O'Shea (lock, Worcester), Sam Arnold (centre, Ulster) B.J. Botha (prop), Jordan Coghlan (flanker, Nottingham), Shane Buckley (flanker, Nottingham), Denis Hurley (centre), Gerhard van den Heever (winger)
    Ospreys Rhodri Jones (prop, Scarlets), Hugh Gustafsson (hooker, Dragons), Bradley Davies (lock, Wasps), Kieron Fonotia (centre, Crusaders) Aaron Jarvis (prop, Clermont), Marc Thomas (prop, Jersey), Matthew Dwyer (hooker), Rynier Bernardo (lock, Scarlets), Rhodri Hughes (lock), Michael Collins (lock), Jordan Collier (flanker), Lloyd Evans (flanker), Gareth Delve (n8), Martin Roberts (scrum-half, Bristol), Aled Jenkins (centre), Kristian Philipps (winger, London Welsh), Richard Fussell (winger), Michael Tagicakibau (winger)
    Scarlets Werner Kruger (prop, Bulls), Rynier Bernardo (lock, Ospreys), Jonathan Evans (scrum-half, Bath), Rhys Patchell (fly-half, Cardiff Blues), Jonathan Davies (centre, Clermont), Johnny McNicholl (winger, Crusaders), Tom Williams (fullback, Cardiff Blues) Rhodri Jones (prop, Ospreys), Phil John (prop), Kirby Myhill (hooker, Cardiff Blues), Toryn Myhill (hooker), George Earle (lock, Cardiff Blues), Maselino Paulino (lock, Lyon), Jack Payne (flanker), Rhodri Williams (scrum-half, Bristol), Kieran Hardy (scrum-half, Jersey), Steve Shingler (fly-half, Cardiff Blues), Regan King (centre, Jersey), Michael Tagicakibau (winger, Treviso), Harry Robinson (winger), Jordan Williams (fullback, Bristol)
    Treviso Tiziano Pasquali (prop, Leicester), Federico Zani (prop, Mogliano), Nicola Quaglio (prop, Rovigo), Filippo Gerosa (lock, Viadana), Guglielmo Zanini (flanker, Rovig), Tito Tebaldi (scrum-half, Harlequins), Giorgio Bronzini (scrum-half, Rovigo), Tommaso Allan (fly-half, Perpignan), Marty Banks (fly-half, Highlanders), Ian McKinley (fly-half, Viadana), Tommaso Benvenuti (centre, Bristol), Michael Tagicakibau (winger, Scarlets), Andrea Buondono (winger, Mogliano), David Odiete (fullback, Mogliano), Luca Sperandio (fullback, Mogliano) Matteo Muccignat (prop, Rovigo), Salesi Manu (prop, Honda Heat), Andrea de Marchi (prop), Rupert Harden (prop), Tom Palmer (lock), Duncan Naude (lock), Alberto Lucchese (scrum-half, Petrarca), Sam Christie (fly-half), Chris Smylie (scrum-half), Simone Ragusi (fly-half, Petrarca), James Ambrosini (fly-half), Enrico Bacchin (centre, Petrarca), Ludovico Nitoglia (winger)
    Ulster Rodney Ah You (prop, Connacht), Kieran Treadwell (lock, Harlequins), Marcell Coetzee (n8, Sharks), Brett Herron (fly-half, Bath), Charles Piutau (winger, Wasps) Nick Williams (n8, Cardiff Blues), Ian Humphreys (fly-half), Sam Arnold (centre, Munster), Rory Scholes (winger, Edinburgh)
    Zebre Carlo Festuccia (hooker, Wasps), Joshua Furno (lock, Newcastle), Maxime Mbanda (flanker, Calvisano), Tommaso Castello (centre, Calvisano), Kurt Baker (centre, New Zealand VII), Giovanbattista Venditti (winger, Newcastle), Mattia Bellini (winger, Petrarca), Gabriele di Giulio (winger, Calvisano), Lloyd Greef (winger, Lions) Emiliano Coria (prop), Marco Bortolami (lock), Filippo Ferrarini (flanker, Ohio), Paul Derbyshire (flanker), Jean Cook (flanker), Luke Burgess (scrum-half), Kelly Haimona (fly-half, Bay of Plenty), Gonzalo Garcia (centre), Leonardo Sarto (winger, Glasgow), Mirco Bergamasco (winger, Sacramento), Giulio Toniolatti (winger), Michele Visentin (winger), Mils Muliaina (fullback, San Francisco), Ulrich Beyers (fullback)
    Bath Michael van Vuuren (hooker, Leicester), Jack Walker (hooker, Yorkshire), Luke Charteris (lock, Racing 92), Elliott Stooke (lock, Gloucester), Taulupe Faletau (n8, Dragons), Kahn Fotuali'i (scrum-half, Northampton), Harry Davies (winger, Cardiff Blues) Rob Webber (hooker, Sale), Tom Woolstencroft (hooker, Wasps), Will Spencer (lock, Worcester), Dominic Day (lock, Toyota Verblitz), Stuart Hooper (lock), Max Northcote-Green (flanker, London Irish), Alafoti Fa'osiliva (flanker), Leroy Houston (n8, Reds), Amanaki Lelei Mafi (n8, NTT Shining Arcs), Jonathan Evans (scrum-half, Scarlets), Ollie Devoto (fly-half, Exeter), Brett Herron (fly-half, Ulster), Horacio Agulla (winger, Castres), Luke Arscott (fullback, Bristol)
    Bristol Nick Fenton-Wells (flanker, Bedford Blues),Jordan Crane (n8, Leicester), Martin Roberts (scrum-half, Ospreys), Rhodri Williams (scrum-half, Scarlets), Tusi Pisi (fly-half, Sunwolves), Luke Arscott (fullback, Bath), Jordan Williams (fullback, Scarlets) James Stephenson (hooker), Marco Mama (flanker, Worcester), Josh Owens (flanker), Craig Hampson (scrum-half, Wasps), Dwayne Peel (scrum-half), Matthew Morgan (fly-half, Cardiff Blues), Tommaso Benvenuti (centre, Treviso), George Watkins (winger, Jersey), Darren Hudson (winger)
    Exeter Greg Holmes (prop, Reds), Dave Dennis (flanker, Waratahs), Ollie Devoto (fly-half, Bath) Alex Brown (prop, Perpignan), Brett Sturgess (prop, Ampthill), Josh Jones (centre, Salford), Byron McGuigan (centre), Adam Hughes (winger, Dragons), Chrysander Botha (fullback)
    Gloucester Josh Hohneck (prop, Highlanders), Motu Matu'u (hooker, Hurricanes), Tom Denton (lock, Leinster), Matt Scott (centre, Edinburgh) James Gibbons (prop, Ealing Trailfinders), Luke Cole (hooker, Rotheram), Elliott Stooke (lock, Bath), Tom Hicks (lock, Rotherham), James Hudson (lock), Steph Reynolds (winger), Steve McColl (fullback, Yorkshire)
    Harlequins Mark Reddish (lock, Highlanders), Charlie Mulchrone (scrum-half, Worcester), Ruaridh Jackson (fly-half, Wasps), Aaron Morris (fullback, Saracens) Kieran Treadwell (lock, Ulster), Beau Robinson (flanker), Tito Tebaldi (scrum-half, Treviso), Sam Egerton (scrum-half, Newcastle), Ben Botica (fly-half, Montpellier)
    Leicester Pat Cilliers (prop, Montpellier), George McGuigan (hooker, Newcastle), Luke Hamilton (n8, Agen), Matt Toomua (centre, Brumbies), J.P. Pietersen (winger, Panasonic Wild Knights), Tom Brady (winger, Sale) Matias Aguero (prop, Aix-en-Provence), Tiziano Pasquali (prop, Treviso), Leonardo Ghiraldini (hooker, Toulouse), Michael van Vuuren (hooker, Bath), Sebastian de Chaves (lock, London Irish), Lawrence Pearce (flanker, Sale), Jordan Crane (n8, Bristol), George Tressider (scrum-half, Rotherham), Vereniki Goneva (centre, Newcastle), Seremaia Bai (centre), Jean de Villiers (centre), Niall Morris (winger), Miles Benjamin (winger), Tommy Bell (fullback, London Irish)
    Newcastle Sam Lockwood (prop, Jersey), Ben Sowrey (hooker, Worcester), Andrew Davidson (lock, Glasgow), Evan Olmstead (lock, London Scottish), Nick Civetta (lock, Ohio), Joshua Chisanga (flanker, Kenya VII), David Tameilau (flanker, San Francisco), Harrison Orr (flanker, Earling Trailfinders), Sam Egerton (scrum-half, Harlequins), Joel Hodgson (fly-half, Yorkshire), Vereniki Goneva (centre, Leicester) George McGuigan (hooker, Leicester), Joshua Furno (lock, Zebre), Rob Hawkins (hooker), Richard Mayhew (flanker, Yorkshire), Giovanbattista Venditti (winger, Zebre)
    Northampton Campese Ma'afu (prop, Aix-en-Provence), Charlie Clare (hooker, Bedford Blues), Louis Picamoles (n8, Toulouse), Nic Groom (scrum-half, Stormers) Alex Corbisiero (prop), Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi (prop, London Irish), Matt Williams (hooker, Worcester), Kahn Fotuali'i (scrum-half, Bath), Pat Howard (centre, Dragons)
    Sale Halani Aulika (prop, London Irish), Kieran Longbotton (prop, Saracens), Rob Webber (hooker, Bath), Lawrence Pearce (flanker, Leicester), Mike Phillips (scrum-half, Racing 92), A.J. McGinty (fly-half, Connacht), Dan Mugford (fly-half, Nottingham), Josh Charnley (centre, Wigan Warriors) Vadim Cobilas (prop, Bordeaux-Bègles), Tommy Taylor (hooker, Wasps), Mark Easter (flanker), Chris Cusiter (scrum-half), Danny Cipriani (fly-half, Wasps), Joe Ford (fly-half, Yorkshire), Tom Brady (winger, Leicester), Phil MacKenzie (winger, San Diego), Nick McLeod (fullback, Dragons)
    Saracens Vincent Koch (prop, Stormers), Mark Flanagan (lock, Bedford Blues), Schalk Burger (flanker, Stormers), Alex Lozowski (fly-half, Wasps), Sean Maitland (winger, London Irish), Savenaca Rawaca (winger, Fiji VII) Rhys Gill (prop, Cardiff), Kieran Longbotton (prop, Sale), Dave Porecki (hooker, London Irish), Jacques Burger (flanker), Thretton Palamo (scrum-half, USA VII), Charlie Hodgson (fly-half), Catalin Fercu (fullback, Timisoara Saracens), Aaron Morris (fullback, Harlequins)
    Wasps Tom Cruse (prop, London Irish), Marty Moore (prop, Leinster), Tommy Taylor (hooker, Sale), Tom Woolstencroft (hooker, Bath), Marcus Garratt (lock, Cornish Pirates), Craig Hampson (scrum-half, Bristol), Danny Cipriani (fly-half, Sale), Guy Armitage (centre, London Welsh), Kurtley Beale (fullback, Waratahs) Lorenzo Cittadini (prop, Bayonne), Ed Shervington (hooker), Carlo Festuccia (hooker, Zebre), Bradley Davies (lock, Ospreys), George Smith (flanker, Suntory Sungoliath), Jamie Stevenson (scrum-half), Ruaridh Jackson (fly-half, Harlequins), Alex Lozowski (fly-half, Saracens), James Downey (centre), Ben Jacobs (centre), Charles Piutau (winger, Ulster)
    Worcester Matt Williams (hooker, Northampton), Will Spencer (lock, Bath), Dewald Potgieter (flanker, Yamaha Jubilo), Marco Mama (flanker, Bristol), Ben Te'o (centre, Leinster), Jackson Willison (centre, Grenoble) Joe Rees (prop), Ben Sowrey (hooker, Newcastle), Dan George (hooker), Darren O'Shea (lock, Munster), Dan Sanderson (lock), Matt Gilbert (n8), Charlie Mulchrone (scrum-half, Harlequins), Jean-Baptiste Bruzulier (scrum-half, Nevers), Andy Symons (centre, London Irish), Heath Stevens (centre, London Welsh), Ravai Fatiaki (centre), Alex Grove (centre)
    Bedford Blues Tom Farrell (centre, Leinster) Charlie Clare (hooker, Northampton), Mark Flanagan (lock, Saracens), Nick Fenton-Wells (flanker, Bristol)
    Cornish Pirates
    Marcus Garratt (lock, Wasps)
    Doncaster

    Jersey Marc Thomas (prop, Ospreys), Kieran Hardy (scrum-half, Scarlets), Regan King (centre, Scarlets), George Watkins (winger, Bristol), Jack Cuthbert (fullback, Edinburgh) Sam Lockwood (prop, Newcastle), Oliver Tomaszczyk (prop, Perpignan), Martin Garcia Vega (hooker, Vannes)
    Leeds

    London Irish Ollie Hoskins (prop, Western Force), Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi (prop, Northampton), Dave Porecki (hooker, Saracens), Sebastian de Chaves (lock, Leicester), Mike Coman (flanker, Edinburgh), Max Northcote-Green (flanker, Bath), Greig Tonks (fly-half, London Irish), James Marshall (fly-half, Hurricanes), Andy Symons (centre, Worcester), Tommy Bell (fullback, Leicester) Halani Aulika (prop, Sale), Tom Cruse (prop, Wasps), Jimmy Stevens (hooker, Nottingham), Ian Nagle (lock, Leinster), Eoin Sheriff (lock, London Scottish), Nic Rouse (lock), Ollie Curry (flanker, Rotherham), Tom Guest (n8), Eoin Griffin (centre, Connacht), Dominic Waldouck (centre, Ohio), Sean Maitland (winger, Saracens), Andy Fenby (winger)
    London Scottish Eoin Sheriff (lock, London Irish), Robbie Ferguson (centre, Glasgow) Evan Olmstead (lock, Newcastle)
    London Welsh Heath Stevens (centre, Worcester), Kristian Philipps (winger, Ospreys) Guy Armitage (centre, Wasps)
    Moseley

    Nottingham Jimmy Stevens (hooker, London Irish), Jordan Coghlan (flanker, Munster), Shane Buckey (flanker, Munster) Conor Carey (prop, Connacht), Dan Mugford (fly-half, Sale)
    Plymouth

    Rotherham Luke Cole (hooker, Gloucester), Tom Hicks (lock, Gloucester), Miles Normandale (lock, Cardiff Blues), Ollie Curry (flanker, London Irish), George Tressider (scrum-half, Leicester) Darran Harris (hooker, Dragons)
    Bayonne Lorenzo Cittadini (prop, Wasps), Davit Khinchagishvili (prop, Racing 92), Jérome Schuster (prop, Tarbes), Ben Broster (prop, Biarritz), Manu Leiataua (hooker, Aurillac), Tom Donnelly (lock, Montpellier), Adam Jaulhac (lock, Bordeaux-Bègles), Evrard Dion Oulai (lock, Carcassonne), Tanerau Latimer (flanker, Blues), Jean-Blaise Lespinasse (flanker, Bordeaux-Bègles), John Beattie (n8, Castres), Emmanuel Saubusse (scrum-half, Mont-de-Marsan), Bastien Duhalde (scrum-half, Brive), Raphael Lagarde (fly-half, Albi), Félix le Bourhis (centre, Bordeaux-Bègles) Simon Courcoul (prop, Narbonne), Joubert Horn (lock), Charlie Cassang (scrum-half, Clermont), Joannes Henry (scrum-half, Grenoble), Blair Stewart (fly-half), Brendon Hegarty (centre), Pierre Sayerse (winger, Montauban)
    Bordeaux-Bègles Marc Clerc (prop, Oyonnax), Vadim Cobilas (prop, Sale), Luke Jones (lock, Rebels), Johan Aliouat (lock, Carcassonne), Tristan Labouteley (flanker, Montpellier), Julien Audy (scrum-half, La Rochelle), Ian Madigan (fly-half, Leinster), Josaia Vakacegu (centre, Béziers), Geoffrey Cros (fullback, Tarbes) Sekope Kepu (prop, Waratahs), Patrick Toetu (prop, Brive), Francisco Gomez Kodela (prop, Lyon), Xerom Civil (prop, Albi), Julien Ledevedec (lock, Brive), Adam Jaulhac (lock, Bayonne), Jean-Blaise Lespinasse (flanker, Bayonne), Jotham Wrampling (flanker, Narbonne), Heini Adams (scrum-half), Pierre Bernard (fly-half, Toulon), Félix le Bourhis (centre, Bayonne), Charles Brousse (centre, Aix-en-Provence), Sofiane Guitoune (winger, Toulouse), Lucas Blanc (winger, Albi)
    Brive Patrick Toetu (prop, Bordeaux-Bègles), Vivien Devisme (prop, Soyaux-Angoulême), Soso Bekoshvili (prop, Chambéry), Louis Acosta (hooker, Colomiers), Julien Ledevedec (lock, Bordeaux-Bègles), Vasil Lobzhanidze (scrum-half, Armazi Tbilissi), Seremaia Burotu (centre, Biarritz), Benjamin Lapeyre (fullback, La Rochelle) Yusuf Tuncer (prop, Albi), Goderzi Shvelidze (prop), Victor Lebas (lock, Soyaux-Angoulême), Tijuee Uanivi (lock, Southern Kings), Bastien Duhalde (scrum-half, Bayonne), Anderson Neisen (fly-half, Limoges), Romain Sola (fly-half), Atila Septar (winger, Clermont)
    Castres Daniel Kotze (prop, Clermont), Damien Tussac (prop, Montauban), Tudor Stroe (prop, Tarbes), Jody Jenneker (hooker, Oyonnax), Loic Jacquet (lock, Clermont), Thibault Lassalle (lock, Toulon), Steve Mafi (flanker, Western Force), Ma'ama Vaipulu (n8, Chiefs), Maxime Javaux (fly-half, Racing 92), Robert Ebersohn (centre, Montpellier), Afusipa Taumoepeau (centre, Albi), Horacio Agulla (winger, Bath), Kylian Jaminet (winger, Toulon), Pierre Bérard (fullback, La Rochelle) Karena Wihongi (prop, Lyon), Florian Houerie (prop), Lucas Martinez (prop), Mathieu Bonello (hooker), Julien Beziat (hooker), Richie Gray (lock, Toulouse), Benjamin Desroches (lock, Albi), Piula Fa'asalele (flanker, Toulouse), Ibrahim Diarra (flanker, Pau), Vlad Nistor (flanker, Albi), John Beattie (n8, Bayonne), Dan Kirkpatrick (fly-half, Albi), Rémi Lamerat (centre, Clermont), Rudi Wulf (centre, Lyon), Romain Cabannes (centre, Pau), Julien Dumora (fullback, Pau)
    Clermont Aaron Jarvis (prop, Ospreys), Sitaleki Timani (lock, Montpellier), Charlie Cassang (scrum-half, Bayonne), Rémi Lamerat (centre, Castres), Atila Septar (winger, Brive) Daniel Kotze (prop, Castres), Doug Woolridge (prop), Pellow van der Westhuizen (hooker, Montauban), Loic Jacquet (lock, Castres), Jamie Cudmore (lock, Oyonnax), Karl Wilkins (lock, Béziers), Brock James (fly-half, La Rochelle), Jonathan Davies (centre, Scarlets), Pedro Bettencourt (centre, Carcassonne)
    Grenoble Aly Muldowney (lock, Connacht), David Mélé (scrum-half, Toulouse), Joannes Henry (scrum-half, Bayonne), Sisa Waqa (winger, Canberra Raiders) James Percival (lock), James Hart (scrum-half, Racing 92), Christophe Loustallot (scrum-half, Mont-de-Marsan), Jackson Willison (centre, Worcester), Robinson Caire (winger, Biarritz), Daniel Kilioni (winger, Carcassonne)
    La Rochelle Mohamed Boughamni (prop, Toulon), Danny Priso (prop, Stade Français), Jérémie Maurouard (hooker, Oyonnax), Victor Vito (flanker, Hurricanes), Alexis Balès (scrum-half, Agen), Arthur Retière (scrum-half, Racing 92), Brock James (fly-half, Clermont), Paul Jordaan (centre, Sharks), Steeve Barry (centre, France VII), David Raikuna (winger), Vincent Rattez (fullback, Narbonne) Thomas Synaeghel (prop, Biarritz), Gagi Bazadze (prop), David Roumieu (hooker, Biarritz), Benjamin Geledan (hooker, Oyonnax), Benoit Guyot (flanker), Julien Audy (scrum-half, Bordeaux-Bègles), Fabien Fortassin (fly-half, Biarritz), Mailetoa Hingano (centre, Honda Heats), Jean-Pascal Barraque (centre), Ratu Alipate Ratini (winger, Stade Francais), Alex Northam (winger, Edinburgh), François Herry (winger, Nevers), Benjamin Lapeyre (fullback, Brive), Pierre Bérard (fullback, Castres)
    Lyon Alexandre Menini (prop, Toulon), Francisco Gomez Kodela (prop, Bordeaux-Bègles), Karena Wihongi (prop, Castres), Stéphane Clément (prop, Biarritz), Mickael Ivaldi (hooker, Montpellier), Maselino Paulino (lock, Scarlets), Josh Bekhuis (lock, Blues), Franco Mostert (lock, Lions), Félix Lambey (lock, Béziers), Virgile Bruni (flanker, Toulon), Frédéric Michalak (fly-half, Toulon), Mike Harris (fly-half, Rebels), Rudi Wulf (centre, Castres), Théo Belan (centre, Toulon), Henry Clunies (winger, Sydney Stars), Delon Armitage (fullback, Toulon) Hoani Tui (prop, Oyonnax), Karim Kouider (prop, Béziers), Wian du Preez (prop), Jean-Philippe Bonrepaux (hooker), Jean-Baptiste Singer (lock, Biarritz), Steevy Cerqueira (lock, Béziers), Karim Ghazal (lock), Connie Basson (lock), Eugène N'Zi (flanker, Nevers), Didier Tison (n8, Narbonne), Masi Matadigo (n8), Jérémy Gondrand (scrum-half, Oyonnax), Mathieu Lorée (scrum-half), Stephen Brett (fly-half), Joffrey Prat (fly-half, Aix-en-Provence), Waisale Sukanavetia (centre, Montauban), Kendrick Lynn (centre)
    Montpellier Antoine Guillamon (prop, Oyonnax), Grégory Fichten (prop, Narbonne), Konstantin Mikautadze (lock, Toulon), Nicolae Janse van Rensburg (lock, Bulls), Ben Botica (fly-half, Harlequins), Alexandre Dumoulin (centre, Racing 92), Joe Tomane (winger, Brumbies), Nemani Nadolo (winger, Crusaders), Vincent Martin (winger, Oyonnax), Joffrey Michel (fullback, Perpignan), Henry Immelman (fullback, Cheetahs) Pat Cilliers (prop, Leicester), Schalk van der Merwe (prop, Colomiers), Oleg Ischenko (prop, Colomiers), Thomas Sauveterre (prop), Nicolas Mas (prop), Mickael Ivaldi (hooker, Lyon), Sitaleki Timani (lock, Clermont), Tom Donnelly (lock, Bayonne), Thibault Privat (lock), Martin Devergie (flanker, Colomiers), Tristan Labouteley (flanker, Bordeaux-Bègles), Ben Mowen (n8, Pau), François Trinh-Duc (fly-half, Toulon), Ben Lucas (fly-half), Ilian Perraux (fly-half, Albi), Robert Ebersohn (centre, Castres), Anthony Tuitavake (centre, Racing 92), Anthony Floch (fullback)
    Pau Malik Hamadache (prop, Albi), Joel Sclavi (prop, Gernika), Fabrice Metz (lock, Oyonnax), Masalosalo Tutaia (lock, Mont-de-Marsan), Ibrahim Diarra (flanker, Castres), Pierrick Gunther (flanker, Oyonnax), Ben Mowen (n8, Montpellier), Steffon Armitage (n8, Toulon), Julien Tomas (scrum-half, Stade Français), Christopher Kaiser (scrum-half, Narbonne), Tom Taylor (fly-half, Toulon), David Havili (fly-half, Crusaders), Romain Cabannes (centre, Castres), Louis Dupichot (winger, Racing 92), Julien Dumora (fullback, Castres) Giorgi Natsarashvili (prop, Carcassonne), Juan Pablo Orlandi (prop), Vincent Campo (hooker), Joseva Domolailai (flanker, Carcassonne), Jean Bouilhou (flanker), Brice Monzeglio (n8), Samuel Marques (scrum-half, Toulouse), Damien Traille (centre), Simon Bonnet (centre), Eljah Niko (winger, Béziers), Mathieu Acebes (fullback, Perpignan), Sireli Bobo (winger)
    Racing 92 Viliamu Afatia (prop, Agen), Leone Nakarawa (lock, Glasgow), Ali Williams (lock), Gerbrandt Grobler (lock), Olivier Missoup (flanker, Oyonnax), James Hart (scrum-half, Grenoble), Anthony Tuitavake (centre, Montpellier) Davit Khinchagishvili (prop, Bayonne), Luke Charteris (lock, Bath), Juandre Kruger (lock, Toulon), Ross Filipo (lock), Luc Barba (flanker, Oyonnax), Arthur Retière (scrum-half, La Rochelle), Mike Phillips (scrum-half, Sale), Maxime Javaux (fly-half, Castres), Alexandre Dumoulin (centre, Montpellier), Louis Dupichot (winger, Pau)
    Stade Français Ratu Alipate Ratini (winger, La Rochelle) Danny Priso (prop, La Rochelle), Aled de Malmanche (hooker), Julien Tomas (scrum-half, Pau)
    Toulon Marcel van der Merwe (prop, Bulls), Laurent Delboulbes (prop, Oyonnax), Juandre Kruger (lock, Racing 92), Liam Gill (flanker, Reds), Aidon Davis (flanker, Southern Kings), François Trinh-Duc (fly-half, Montpellier), Pierre Bernard (fly-half, Bordeaux-Bègles), Jimmy Yobo (centre, Oyonnax), Axel Muller (centre, Argentina VII)Vincent Clerc (winger, Toulouse), Ayumu Goromaru (fullback, Reds) Alexandre Menini (prop, Lyon), Mohamed Boughamni (prop, La Rochelle), Konstantin Mikautadze (lock, Montpellier), Virgile Thibault Lassalle (lock, Castres), Bruni (flanker, Lyon), Steffon Armitage (n8, Pau), Frédéric Michalak (fly-half, Lyon), Tom Taylor (fly-half, Pau), Ulupano Seuteni (fly-half, Oyonnax), Théo Belan (centre, Lyon), Kylian Jaminet (winger, Castres), Delon Armitage (fullback, Lyon)
    Toulouse Maks van Wyk (prop, Cheetahs), Leonardo Ghiraldini (hooker, Leicester), Richie Gray (lock, Castres), Piula Fa'asalele (flanker, Castres), Samuel Marques (scrum-half, Pau), Lucas Tauzin (centre, Mont-de-Marsan), Sofiane Guitoune (winger, Bordeaux-Bègles) Gert Muller (prop, Perpignan), Neemia Tialata (prop), Corey Flynn (hooker, Glasgow), Romain Millo-Chluski (lock, Perpignan), Gianni Gaillard (lock, Albi), Louis Picamoles (n8, Northampton), Imanol Harinordoquy (n8), David Mélé (scrum-half, Grenoble), Fabien Nabias (scrum-half, Montauban), Vincent Clerc (winger, Toulon), Thomas Ramos (winger, Colomiers), Timoci Matanavu (winger, Perpignan)
    Agen Vikhtangi Akhobadze (prop, Massy), Clément Vermond (prop, Racing 92), Jese Cirikisuva (lock, Akita Northern Bullets), Florian Denos (fullback, Oyonnax) Viliamu Afatia (prop, Racing 92), Ruaan du Preez (prop), Jason Marshall (prop), Nicolas Chocou (prop), Jalil Narjissi (hooker), Jean-Baptiste Roidot (lock, Carcassonne), Léo Bastien (lock, Biarritz), Api Naikatini (lock), Luke Hamilton (n8, Leicester), Marc Giraud (n8), Alexis Balès (scrum-half, La Rochelle), Bautista Guemes (fly-half, Vannes), Vincent Roux (centre), Eroni Vasiteri Narumasa (centre), Leka Tagotago (winger), Benoit Sicart (fullback, Albi)
    Aix-en-Provence Matias Aguero (prop, Leicester), Teva Make (prop, Montauban), Sofiane Said (prop, Rodez), Vincent Carrat (hooker, La Seyne), Addison Lockley (lock, Tarbes), Jean-Luc Luminuku (lock, Béziers), Manuel Charlier (lock, La Seyne), Karl Lowe (flanker, Canon Eagles), Cédric Béal (flanker, Mont-de-Marsan), Kevin Courtet (scrum-half, Clermont), Régis Lespinas (fly-half, Oyonnax), Joffrey Prat (fly-half, Lyon), Charles Brousse (centre, Bordeaux-Bègles), Laurent Tranier (centre, Tarbes), Thibault Zambelli (fullback, Strasbourg) Campese Ma'afu (prop, Northampton), Leandro Mario Assi (prop, Biarritz), Ousmane N'Diaye (prop, Nevers), Alan Cotter (prop), Romain Colliat (hooker, Romans), Denis Fogarty (hooker), Yassine Maamry (lock, Béziers), Rupeni Nasiga (lock), Lucas Guillaume (flanker), Paula Havea (flanker), Romain Longépée (flanker), Tanguy Molcard (flanker), Alexis Driollet (flanker), Kevin Boulogne (scrum-half), Robin Clément (scrum-half), Riaan Swanepoel (centre, Montauban), Louis Marrou (centre, Carcassonne), Baptiste Hecker (centre), Constantine Mika (centre, Toulouse XIII), Evi Naioko (winger), Anthony Poujol (fullback), Lucas Lévy (fullback)
    Albi Yusuf Tuncer (prop, Brive), Xerom Civil (prop, Bordeaux-Bègles), Thomas Pretkowski (prop, Lille), Samy Fuchsel (prop, Berlin), Arnaud Feltrin (hooker, Bordeaux-Bègles), Benjamin Desroches (lock, Castres), Russlan Boukerou (lock, Tarbes), Gianni Gaillard (lock, Toulouse), Fred Quercy (flanker, Montauban), Vlad Nistor (flanker, Castres), Thibault Bisman (scrum-half, Béziers), Gilen Queheille (scrum-half, Tarbes), Ilian Perraux (fly-half, Montpellier), Dan Kirkpatrick (fly-half, Castres), Clément Aubert (centre, Lyon), Lucas Blanc (winger, Bordeaux-Bègles), Conrad Marais (winger, Béziers), Benoit Sicart (fullback, Agen) Malik Hamadache (prop, Pau), Vakhtang Maisuradze (lock, Vannes), Arthur Chollon (flanker), Vincent Callas (flanker), Shannon Rick (scrum-half), Yohann Chateauraynaud (scrum-half), Morgan Marchini (scrum-half), Raphael Lagarde (fly-half, Bayonne), Vincent Mallet (fly-half, Massy), Andre Hough (fly-half), Afusipa Taumoepeau (centre, Castres), Javier Rojas Alvarez (centre), Isikeli Davetawalu (centre), Maxime le Bourhis (winger, Cognac), Ledua Mau (winger, Soyaux-Angoulême), Quentin Valancon (fullback), Morgan Marchini (fullback)
    Aurillac Yorhann Ramonjiarivony (prop, Toulouse), Kevin Savea (hooker, Clermont), William Vaccaril (n8, Racing 92), Pierre Gaveau (centre, Clermont), Uiki Huakau (winger, Bordeaux-Bègles) Manu Leiataua (hooker, Bayonne), Arthur Roulin (flanker), Jakobus Kemp (centre), Sergi Aubanell (fullback, Limoges)
    Béziers Karim Kouider (prop, Lyon), Alexandru Tarus (prop, Timisoara Saracens), Steevy Cerqueira (lock, Lyon), Yassine Maamry (lock, Aix-en-Provence), Karl Wilkins (lock,Clermont), Julien Blanc (scrum-half, Oyonnax), Clément Querru (centre, Stade Français), Eljah Niko (winger, Pau), Robin Aulas (fullback, Lyon) Félix Lambey (lock, Lyon), Thomas Ceyte (lock, Dax), Jean-Luc Luminuku (lock, Aix-en-Provence), Thibault Bisman (scrum-half, Albi), Danre Gerber (fly-half, Mont-de-Marsan), Josaia Vakacegu (centre, Bordeaux-Bègles), Conrad Marais (winger, Albi)
    Biarritz Thomas Synaeghel (prop, La Rochelle), Mathieu Giudicelli (prop, Tarbes), Leandro Mario Assi (prop, Aix-en-Provence), David Roumieu (hooker, La Rochelle), Léo Bastien (lock, Agen), Jean-Baptiste Singer (lock, Lyon), Sikeli Nabou (lock, Counties Manukau), Felipe Manu (n8, Tarbes), Alexandre Loustaunau (scrum-half, Mauléon), Fabien Fortassin (fly-half, La Rochelle), Adriu Delai (centre, Mont-de-Marsan), Robinson Caire (winger, Grenoble), Saimoni Vaka (winger), Ximun Lucu (fullback, Mont-de-Marsan), Corbin Kiernan (fullback, SO Avignon XIII) Stéphane Clément (prop, Lyon), Ben Broster (prop, Bayonne), Cécilion Puleoto (prop), Michael Dallery (prop), Benjamin Noirot (hooker), Dylan Donnellan (hooker), Erik Lund (lock), Ikapote Fono (lock), Ueleni Fono (n8), Dan Waenga (fly-half), Seremaia Burotu (centre, Brive), Nick de Luca (centre), Takudzwa Ngwenya (winger, San Diego), Rodney Davies (winger), Jacques Boussuge (winger), Paul Couet-Lannes (fullback, Mont-de-Marsan)
    Bourgoin Junior Taavili (flanker, Ordizia), Aviata Silago (fly-half, Chambéry), Julien Lafontaine (winger, Rhone Ovalie) Genesis Pelepele (n8, Perpignan), Jérome Bosviel (fullback, Montauban)
    Carcassonne Giorgi Natsarashvili (prop, Pau), Thierry Paiva (prop, Bordeaux-Bègles), Thierry Kunga Kuate (prop, Waratahs), Thomas Sauveterre (hooker, Montpellier), Jean-Baptiste Roidot (lock, Agen), Rory Walton (lock, Perth Spirit), Alex Galletly (lock, Leicester), Joseva Domolailai (flanker, Pau), Thomas Lainault (flanker, Bordeaux-Bègles), Edgar Tuinukuafe (n8, Toulouse), Louis Marrou (centre, Aix-en-Provence), Pedro Bettencourt (centre, Clermont), Daniel Kilioni (winger, Grenoble), Benoit Jasmin (winger, Narbonne) Quentin Drancourt (prop), Nahuel Lobo (prop), Emiliano Racca (prop), Johan Aliouat (lock, Bordeaux-Bègles), Evrard Dion Oulai (lock, Bayonne), Pierre Maurens (lock), Alin Coste (lock), Franck Teyssier (flanker, Gruissan), Scott Newlands (flanker), Ovidiu Tonita (flanker), José Lima (centre, Oyonnax), Afa Pakalani (winger), Julien Gros (fullback, Bourg en Bresse), Arthur Dentressangle (fullback)
    Colomiers Schalk van der Merwe (prop, Montpellier), Oleg Ischenko (prop, Montpellier), Agustin Costa Repetto (hooker, Tarbes), Sione Timani (lock, Tarbes), Martin Devergie (flanker, Montpellier), Peni Botiki (centre, Newton Jets), Thomas Ramos (winger, Toulouse), Bill Valetini (winger, Australia) Tapu Falatea (prop), Louis Acosta (hooker, Brive), Wame Lewaravu (lock, Rouen), Damian Panizzo (lock), Griffith van Wyck (lock), David Skrela (fy-half), Ilikena Bolakoro (winger, Soyaux-Angoulême), Chris Czekaj (fullback), Morgan Saout (fullback)
    Dax Thomas Ceyte (lock, Béziers), Vickus Liebenberg (lock, Mont-de-Marsan), Jamie Swanson (flanker, Bergerac), Nicolas Cachet (fullback, Macon) Martin Dreyer (prop), Geronimo Albertario (lock), Jérémy Dumont (lock), Mickael Bert (lock), Germain Garcia (flanker), Alexandre Derrien (flanker), Julien Peyrelongue (fly-half), Mathieu Bourret (winger)
    Montauban Benoit Zanon (prop, Narbonne), Thibault Estorge (prop, Clermont), Pellow van der Westhuizen (hooker, Clermont), Sébastien Rouet (scrum-half, Narbonne), Fabien Nabias (scrum-half, Toulouse), Riaan Swanepoel (centre, Aix-en-Provence), Waisale Sukanavetia (centre, Lyon), Pierre Sayerse (winger, Bayonne), Jérome Bosviel (fullback, Bourgoin) Damien Tussac (prop, Castres), Teva Make (prop, Aix-en-Provence), Fred Quercy (flanker, Albi), Frédéric Urruty (scrum-half), Baptiste Perrot (centre, Auch), Vungakoto Lilo (winger), Eric Tafernaberry (fullback)
    Mont-de-Marsan Christophe David (prop, Perpignan), Jeronimo Negrotto (prop, Tarbes), Maxime Mermoz (prop, Lyon), Schalk Oelofse (lock, Southern Kings), Philip du Preez (lock, Eastern Province), Dan Malafosse (flanker, Soyaux-Angoulême), Nicolas Barrault (n8, Tarbes), Christophe Loustallot (scrum-half, Grenoble), Danre Gerber (fly-half, Béziers), Saimoni Naboro (centre), Nacani Wakaya (winger), Paul Couet-Lannes (fullback, Biarritz) Renaud Boyoud (prop), Thomas Mamou (prop, Limoges), Masalosalo Tutaia (lock, Pau), Vickus Liebenberg (lock, Dax), Cédric Béal (flanker, Aix-en-Provence), Vassili Bost (flanker), Charles Malet (n8), Romeo Nifo Taelega (n8, Soyaux-Angoulême), Emmanuel Saubusse (scrum-half, Bayonne), Clément Briscadieu (scrum-half, Soyaux-Angouleme), Adriu Delai (centre, Biarritz), Lucas Tauzin (centre, Toulouse), Jean-Marc Mazzonetto (winger), Ximun Lucu (fullback, Biarritz)
    Narbonne Simon Courcoul (prop, Bayonne), Romain Durand (lock, Castres), Jotham Wrampling (flanker, Bordeaux-Bègles), Pierre Algans (flanker, Toulouse), Didier Tison (n8, Lyon) Grégory Fichten (prop, Montpellier), Benoit Zanon (prop, Montauban), Tommy Raynaud (prop, Oyonnax), Pascal Cotet (prop, Oyonnax), George Tuinukuafe (prop), Astamour Iosseliani (prop), Sunia Vuli Koto (hooker, Macon), Otilo Kafotamaki (n8), Sébastien Rouet (scrum-half, Montauban), Christopher Kaiser (scrum-half, Pau), Christopher Ruiz (fly-half, Oyonnax), Benoit Jasmin (winger, Carcassonne), Nafi Tuitavake (winger), Vincent Rattez (fullback, La Rochelle)
    Oyonnax Hoani Tui (prop, Lyon), Dean Greyling (prop, Bulls), Tommy Raynaud (prop, Narbonne), Pascal Cotet (prop, Narbonne), Irakli Mirtskhulava (prop, Tarbes), Quentin MacDonald (hooker, Blues), Callie-Theron Visagie (hooker, Bulls), Benjamin Geledan (hooker, La Rochelle), Jamie Cudmore (lock, Clermont), Steven Sykes (lock, Southern Kings), Luc Barba (flanker, Racing 92), Jérémy Gondrand (scrum-half, Lyon), James Hall (scrum-half, Southern Kings), Christopher Ruiz (fly-haf, Narbonne), Ulupano Seuteni (fly-half, Toulon), José Lima (centre, Carcassonne), Maxime Veau (centre, Tarbes) Laurent Delboulbes (prop, Toulon), Marc Clerc (prop, Bordeaux-Bègles), Antoine Guillamon (prop, Montpellier), Horatiu Pungea (prop), Jérémy Castex (prop), Jody Jenneker (hooker, Castres), Jérémie Maurouard (hooker, La Rochelle), Fabrice Metz (lock, Pau), George Robson (lock), Pierrick Gunther (flanker, Pau), Olivier Missoup (flanker, Racing 92), Guillaume Bernad (flanker), Pedrie Wannenburg (n8, United States), Julien Blanc (scrum-half, Béziers), Régis Lespinas (fly-half, Aix-en-Provence), Nicky Robinson (fly-half), Jimmy Yobo (centre, Toulon), Guillaume Bousses (centre), Vincent Martin (winger, Montpellier), Florian Denos (fullback, Agen)
    Perpignan Gert Muller (prop, Toulouse), Alex Brown (prop, Exeter), Oliver Tomaszczyk (prop, Jersey), Joe Jones (prop, Cardiff Blues), Romain Millo-Chluski (lock, Toulouse), Paul Ciulini (lock, Ontario Blues), Genesis Pelepele (n8, Bourgoin), Thibault Dufau (scrum-half, Toulon), Andrea Cocagi (centre, Tarbes), Timoci Matanavu (winger, Toulouse), Mathieu Acebes (fullback, Pau) Christophe David (prop, Mont-de-Marsan), Giorgi Mchedlishvili (prop), Rudy Chéron (prop), Jérémy Bécasseau (prop), Paulica Ion (prop), Romain Terrain (hooker), Kiril Kulemin (lock), Benjamin Beaux (flanker), Dimitri Basilaia (flanker), Nicolas Rabat (flanker), Jean-Pierre Perez (flanker), Dewald Duvenage (scrum-half, Stormers), Tommaso Allan (fly-half, Treviso), David Marty (centre), Joffrey Michel (fullback, Montpellier)
    Soyaux-Angoulême Victor Lebas (lock, Brive), Romeo Nifo Taleaga (n8, Mont-de-Marsan), Clément Briscadieu (scrum-half, Mont-de-Marsan), Sebastian Poet (fly-half, Tarbes), Ilikena Bolakoro (winger, Colomiers), Ledua Mau (winger, Albi) Vivien Devisme (prop, Brive), Seba Kartvelishvili (prop), Dan Malafosse (flanker, Mont-de-Marsan), Hadrien Daures (flanker, Agde), Pierre Louvet (winger), Quentin Chiarabini (winger)
    Vannes Maxime Jadot (prop, Lille), Martin Garcia Vega (hooker, Jersey), Vakhtang Maisuradze (lock, Albi), Laijiasa Bolenaivalu (lock, Libourne), Manoa Vosawai (n8, Cardiff Blues), Luix Roussarie (scrum-half, Tarbes), Bautista Guemes (fly-half, Agen), Thomas Lacelle (winger, Brive), Ash Moeke (fullback, Southland) Arthur Coville (scrum-half, Stade Français), Jean-Baptiste Claverie (fly-half), Théo Platon (fullback, Rouen)
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    Bath have Auterac and Catt signing new contracts. Does that belong here ?

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    Saracens are also losing Burger to retirement and Ernst Joubert has just left

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    And in this year's worst kept secret - Faletau to Bath confirmed
    http://www.bathrugby.com/news/wales-...y-next-season/

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    I guess he is used to playing challenge cup rugby

    Bath potential team next season
    1) Auterac
    2) Batty
    3) Thomas
    4) Attwood
    5) Charteris
    6) Denton
    7) Louw
    8) Falateu
    9) Cook
    10) Ford
    11) Roko
    12) Eastmond
    13) Joseph
    14) Banners/Agulla
    15) Watson

    16) Webber, 17) Catt, 18) Wilson
    19) Garvey, 20) Houston, 21) Matawalu, 22) Preistland, 23) Agulla/Devoto/Banners

    Still need another hooker and a proper SH (ala Stringer mold IMO).
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    I thought they'd signed Charteris and Denton to cover missing out on Faletau?

    #salarycap

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF_Olyy View Post
    I thought they'd signed Charteris and Denton to cover missing out on Faletau?

    #salarycap
    Denton and Faletau I think we're Burgess replacements.

    The cap is going up.
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    The real question is how much salary cap did Burgess leave free? Bath unequivocally said they are under this years salary cap (nothing about last year).

    I imagine we have a fair chunk of wiggle room now.

    Agree with Tigs Scrummy and Hooker our weakest positions now. Scrummy always feel like the one that hurts us most.

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    We'd budgeted this year to have Faletau and Burgess in the squad.
    Pretty sure Denton would cost less than those 2 combined; and Faletau is likely to take about the same salary as Faletau was going to; which means we may well still have some cash left over - unless Denton got all of Burgess salary to convince him to come mid-season.
    We've then got Charteris coming in, and a £1M cap increase - we really ought to have some change left over... and a need for a hooker.

    Quite apart from that - I still don't see where Bath were spending much over the cap last year.

    On Scrummy; I'm happy to wait and see for the moment, as of this time last year, Cookie picked up and looked properly Premiership class; and Mata just needs a coach to get hold of him psychologically, so let's see if our can do that. Obviously, if Mr Smith wants to come over, then I won't be refusing him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncurd View Post
    The real question is how much salary cap did Burgess leave free? Bath unequivocally said they are under this years salary cap (nothing about last year).

    I imagine we have a fair chunk of wiggle room now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF_Olyy View Post
    I believe ya.
    But my tommy gun don't
    Ask yourself why would they obfuscate about the situation last season while coming out with flat out denial about this season? Simplist answer is usually true we were likely over through dodgy method last season but are probably not for this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncurd View Post
    Ask yourself why would they obfuscate about the situation last season while coming out with flat out denial about this season? Simplist answer is usually true we were likely over through dodgy method last season but are probably not for this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF_Olyy View Post
    Don't give me that. You been smooching everybody! Snuffy, Al, Leo... Little Moe with the gimpy leg, Cheeks, Boney Bob, Cliff... I could go on forever, baby.
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    Was burgess not a marquee? Also how long can a player be marquee for?

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    a] nobody knows; but unlikely (basically inconceivable that he'd get more than Louw; and likely less than Attwood & Wilson)
    b] 1st MP can be MP for as long as you like; 2nd only can' be MP in his 2nd year for the club

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    LOL at less than Attwood or Wilson.

    Don't kid yourself.

    He would most likely have been your highest earner.

    Also don't get what you are saying RE MP's.
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    Is Faletau a good signing? I know everyone raves about him, but for the most part I just don't see it. I can't recall many WOW moments except for the way he set up Webb's try against England, which was admittedly top drawer.

    Is he one of those Richard Hill types who don't bring much obvious to the party except for the small fact that teams simply seem to function better with them? Or do I just need to get my eyes tested?

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    What about the "elder" All Blacks? Wasn't Dan Carter signed by Racing 92? And Ma'a Nonu to Montpellier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigs Man View Post
    LOL at less than Attwood or Wilson.

    Don't kid yourself.

    He would most likely have been your highest earner.

    Also don't get what you are saying RE MP's.
    Hah! utter bull**** IMO.
    Feel free to believe it if it makes you feel better; but I see no way on earth that a complete gamble would be paid more than a world class player (Louw) or a regular international in the most expensive position on the pitch.
    If you really think Craig would do that, then how the hell did he make any money in business?
    If Burgess was our highest earner; then there's no way in hell we were even approaching the cap, let alone beyond.

    Of course, we both have our opinions based on all the speculation out there (mostly revolving around an idiot in the press who can't tell the difference between a transfer fee and a salary), personal bias, and different values of common sense; and it's been discussed ad nauseam over the last year or so; neither of us is likely to change their mind just because they've met yet another person who disagrees with them.

    Oh, and what don't you understand about my comments on MPs?
    You have 2 MPs with different rules on them.
    1st MP can be anyone who didn't play for someone else in the Prem for the last 2 years - so anyone who's been with you for more than 2 years, or anyone you brought in from overseas; there's no limit to how long he can be your MP for; could be MP in the first year of his contract and still be your MPO 10 years later if you so chose.
    2nd MP has to have been at the club for more than 2 years, or be in the first year of his contract having signed from overseas - so a player can be MP in the 1st year of his contract, or from year 3 onwards - again no limit to how long.
    Last edited by Which Tyler; 09-12-15 at 03:59 PM.

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    I thought it was pretty well known that Burgess was the biggest earner at Bath/in England?
    £500k a year is what was repeatedly reported in the press.

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