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A Political Thread pt. 2

I remember years ago a senior met officer had calls to be dismissed when he said in London you are more likely to be robbed by a young black male and the police needed to work with black communities.
Am I only the only person who knows/remembers that racial profiling has historically led to outrageous level of persecution to ethnic minorities?

Theres a huge difference between "hey guys there's a trends here with actual evidence to something to investigate"
and "lets assume they are bad people because they were walking whilst black".
 
Am I only the only person who knows/remembers that racial profiling has historically led to outrageous level of persecution to ethnic minorities?

Theres a huge difference between "hey guys there's a trends here with actual evidence to something to investigate"
and "lets assume they are bad people because they were walking whilst black".

And that's valid, and the reason for promoting 'diversity' in the police force is for local community reasons.

Nobody wants to see a heavy handed all white presence in a diverse neighbourhood, they want to see empathetic policing alongside community leaders...

So why isnt that happening?
 
Remember this very confected designed to keep immigrants as the problem as opposed to main perpetrators of these kind of crimes.


Reminds me of a conversation I had with a Reform and Trump supporter who claimed to want to protect women, unless it meant taking action against men, or ending his support for known sexual predators (Trump and Tate), or providing funding for help for women who were victims of rape, or increasing the laws around protection of rape victims etc etc. Essentially anything to actually protect women from rape, he opposed. He only supported something that could target trans people, which tells you clear as day that protecting women was never the aim.
 

19 year olds are dumb, he shouldn't be a councilor...

But from what I can find, noone will quote him, and the only quote I can find is that he 'begged' police to release the status of the perpetrators, and that 'if I release this i will be held in contempt'.

So is that the risk of contempt, that if he released the status of the perps hed be held in contempt?

Im confused.
 
19 year olds are dumb, he shouldn't be a councilor...

But from what I can find, noone will quote him, and the only quote I can find is that he 'begged' police to release the status of the perpetrators, and that 'if I release this i will be held in contempt'.

So is that the risk of contempt, that if he released the status of the perps hed be held in contempt?

Im confused.
From the Beeb.

Contempt of court laws are quite simple in this context. No-one should make public any information that might make a future trial unfair, for example giving out details of the evidence that police officers have collected.

In most cases publishing the nationality of the person charged is unlikely to make the trial unfair, so the contempt of court laws are not often applicable.
 
Contempt of court laws are quite simple in this context.
And yet how many times has Tommy Robinson failed?

Its quite simple though only repeat what court reporters have said or the police have released. Unless you are a lawyer yourself and know its safe. Do not I said do not repeat random **** you saw on the Internet.
 
Regarding asylum status -

So there is nothing in the guidance that prevents police giving information about the nationality, asylum status or even ethnicity of someone who has been charged. But there is nothing that specifically mentions them either.

Police can release information if they deem it in the public interest.

Could be a smart move or dumb move by the councillor. Dumb case gets thrown out. Smart he's pandering to his base, puts Warwickshire Police on the spot.
 
It can be both the case can be thrown out and it would still pander to his base.

How many people it the riots last year felt remorse when they discovered it wasnt an asylum seeker...
Articles a tad behind Warwickshire Police confirmed the asylum status a few hours ago. Unless I've read the Police statement wrong.
 
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Brazil actually had a trade surplus with the US but the orange-utan slapped 50% tariffs on them because they dared to bang bolsonaro up.

This is him interfering in another's countries politics and justice system.

If anything the moron's demonstrated that his tariffs are about control. He's done it worldwide, ask Canada about added tariffs because they stated they may support a Palestinian state.
 
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Brazil actually had a trade surplus with the US but the orange-utan slapped 50% tariffs on them because they dared to bang bolsonaro up.

This is him interfering in another's countries politics and justice system.

If anything the moron's demonstrated that his tariffs are about control. He's done it worldwide, ask Canada about added tariffs because they stated they may support a Palestinian state.
It's ridiculous how Republicans in Congress have completely handed over the Constitutionally appointed power of tariffs to the Executive. The president can apply retaliatory and emergency measures sure, but Trump has literally threatened tariffs on the entire world. There is no way in hell that can be justified as being in response to an emergency.

Going to be an interesting battle when Republicans lose control of the Executive or Legislature (they won't lose control of the Judiciary for decades because of how much they've packed it). I imagine if Democrats win the Legislature, they will try to undo the tariffs, citing that the Constitution gives that power to Congress and it's pretty clear that's the case. Trump will of course ignore it, it will go to the Supreme Court and then we will see just how far they will go to ignore the plain text of the Constitution.

If a Democrat president takes power, Republicans will either demand tariffs be reversed or expanded, whatever they feel will best come across as re-asserting control on that issue.
 
From the Beeb.

Contempt of court laws are quite simple in this context. No-one should make public any information that might make a future trial unfair, for example giving out details of the evidence that police officers have collected.

In most cases publishing the nationality of the person charged is unlikely to make the trial unfair, so the contempt of court laws are not often applicable.

This confuses me more...

So what did he say thay the independent are so scared to quote?
 
Farage claiming it was the police not releasing the identity of the suspects is such a lying sack of **** take on what's been happening. Not revealing the identity is fairly standard and occurs in thousands of cases across the country without any riots. What caused the riots was the far right filling that gap with lies and then getting violent off those lies due to living in information bubbles.

Farage himself had helped stoke these, despite being able to access the truth through MPs privileges. He either made no attempt to, or knew the truth but intentionally lied with Stockport. It's infuriating that nobody is properly hauling him up on the claim that not revealing the identity is the problem rather than the far right intentionally lying to stoke hatred being the problem.
 

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