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ChicagoKid said:
The post was deleted, so I cannot verify what the individual X post said. All I can say is, I, myself, ChicagoKid, never once said it was right or left.

I'm accountable for myself. No one else.
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Im just reading the Crowder leaked manifesto, with trans ideology and anto fascist rhetoric...

Im not sure what to think, but again I dont think who this individual is matters, its both sides that are the problem!!!!
 
So the suspect is definitely Trans and Chicagokid has inside info identifying who it is yet the FBI are putting out a bounty for information on the person...

This is on top of them arresting 2 incorrect people already. Yeah, not buying it. Just sounds like pivoting between a bunch of people on the checklist of "those I oppose".

And yes Chicagokid, if you repost something that makes a claim, without commentary distancing yourself from elements of it, you are in essence putting that forward as your own view, or one you agree with.
 
Ragey Erasmus said:
So the suspect is definitely Trans and Chicagokid has inside info identifying who it is yet the FBI are putting out a bounty for information on the person...

This is on top of them arresting 2 incorrect people already. Yeah, not buying it. Just sounds like pivoting between a bunch of people on the checklist of "those I oppose".

And yes Chicagokid, if you repost something that makes a claim, without commentary distancing yourself from elements of it, you are in essence putting that forward as your own view, or one you agree with.
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There are ATF documents leaked to be fair, and other things claiming there was inscriptions on the bullet casing, and an apparent manifesto...

Im not sure how accurate these leaks and info are, but I know one thing...

If the left (democrats, not real left) , and trans ideology specifically dont want a major backlash from the general public, they need to censor the stuff on social media, its coming across as psychotic and disgracefull, and will absolutely push a huge amount of people to the 'safety' of the right!

Even if this turns out to be a right wing nut job trying to pull a false flag type thing, these gloating, celebration, hateful videos arent going away, and the majority arent going to side with it.

We knew the Internet was going to be a dumpster fire of epic proportions after this, the question is how will it translate to the public domain?
 
dirty harry said:
There are ATF documents leaked to be fair, and other things claiming there was inscriptions on the bullet casing, and an apparent manifesto...

Im not sure how accurate these leaks and info are, but I know one thing...

If the left (democrats, not real left) , and trans ideology specifically dont want a major backlash from the general public, they need to censor the stuff on social media, its coming across as psychotic and disgracefull, and will absolutely push a huge amount of people to the 'safety' of the right!

Even if this turns out to be a right wing nut job trying to pull a false flag type thing, these gloating, celebration, hateful videos arent going away, and the majority arent going to side with it.

We knew the Internet was going to be a dumpster fire of epic proportions after this, the question is how will it translate to the public domain?
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Don't worry, I blocked @Ragey Erasmus long ago. He is not intelligent and has the emotional maturity of a child.
 
dirty harry said:
There are ATF documents leaked to be fair, and other things claiming there was inscriptions on the bullet casing, and an apparent manifesto...

Im not sure how accurate these leaks and info are, but I know one thing...

If the left (democrats, not real left) , and trans ideology specifically dont want a major backlash from the general public, they need to censor the stuff on social media, its coming across as psychotic and disgracefull, and will absolutely push a huge amount of people to the 'safety' of the right!

Even if this turns out to be a right wing nut job trying to pull a false flag type thing, these gloating, celebration, hateful videos arent going away, and the majority arent going to side with it.

We knew the Internet was going to be a dumpster fire of epic proportions after this, the question is how will it translate to the public domain?
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I get your point the problem is the right and left are so far apart. Each sides views are so disgusting to the others there's no middle ground.

Part of Charlie Kirks thing was going to liberal university's asking to be proven wrong. Knowing he's view are distasteful to some.

At this point you'd have to ban both bloody sides from the Internet.
 
Saintjay said:
I get your point the problem is the right and left are so far apart. Each sides views are so disgusting to the others there's no middle ground.

Part of Charlie Kirks thing was going to liberal university's asking to be proven wrong. Knowing he's view are distasteful to some.

At this point you'd have to ban both bloody sides from the Internet.
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Ban both sides. lol.
 
dirty harry said:
There are ATF documents leaked to be fair, and other things claiming there was inscriptions on the bullet casing, and an apparent manifesto...

Im not sure how accurate these leaks and info are, but I know one thing...

If the left (democrats, not real left) , and trans ideology specifically dont want a major backlash from the general public, they need to censor the stuff on social media, its coming across as psychotic and disgracefull, and will absolutely push a huge amount of people to the 'safety' of the right!

Even if this turns out to be a right wing nut job trying to pull a false flag type thing, these gloating, celebration, hateful videos arent going away, and the majority arent going to side with it.

We knew the Internet was going to be a dumpster fire of epic proportions after this, the question is how will it translate to the public domain?
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This isn't just on the Democrat side to calm down, when Democrat politicians were murdered, there were many Republicans who were gleeful or happy to spread misinformation about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators#Right-wing_misinformation

This extended up to people like Laura Loomer and Alex Jones outright denying reality and portraying it all as a left wing false flag operation, exactly the sort of action that is correctly being condemned here.

Chicago is here fanning the flames just as badly as anyone else but from the other side.

I find it odd to say the Trans community could face "backlash" as if they haven't already faced abuse for who they are.
 
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Saintjay said:
I get your point the problem is the right and left are so far apart. Each sides views are so disgusting to the others there's no middle ground.

Part of Charlie Kirks thing was going to liberal university's asking to be proven wrong. Knowing he's view are distasteful to some.

At this point you'd have to ban both bloody sides from the Internet.
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So, I dont thinknthey are that far apart, I think they've been polarised by scumbag politicians who prioritise winning over social cohesion.

Dem and republican voters agree on most issues, they disagree on trans inclusion in sports, what type of immigration is ok, the interpretation of the constitution etc...

However, the algorithm has been deployed in recent years, and has absolutely been manipulated for the detriment of mankind, the extremes on each side are promoted and get rich, which leads to people being more extreme for gain, dehumanising your opposition is the strategy not to win votes, but to scare the opposing side into voting for you!

Thisnis why i keep banging on about nuance, offering opposing views, and trying to make you guys consider being empathetic, to stop the inevitable trend of US politics infecting the UK as it always does!

The idea Democrats are left wing is laughable, their only true position is anti Trump, and im not gassing trump, I blame him as much as anyone else, he utilises the strategy just as much.

Kirks shtick was being super educated in these issues, and having his debate skills prepped against stupid ignorant 18 year olds, thats not hard, and its not impressive. But Turning point USA did a hell of a job of making conservatism and traditionalism cool.

I dont want anyone banned, but I get your point, but in this instance, those who oppose Trump are creating the type of content that wins the next election... come mid terms, Republicans just have to screen democrat / psychopaths videos gloating about a murder, at every opportunity!

As a real left leaning person, this makes me feel more empathetic toward MAGA. I just watched a video of people trolling a vigil for Kirk, chanting how he was a nazi, and they were gutted they werent the one who got the glory... thats gonna **** the democrat party I promise you!
 
TRF_Olyy said:
Why does this death mean more than any of the other political assassinations in recent years?

People weren't calling for televised executions when the Democrat state representatives were killed in June
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I cant agree more...

I think its because this is more emotive, this is basically a youtuber that hit big, became an aquatence to the president, and managed to convicne a generation conservatism was cool. He was also demonised heavily.

I sat in a multi agency meeting this afternoon, with a load of social workers, mostly middle aged white british women, some eauropean, and the discussion focused around the poor guy who was giving a speech to college kids who was killed just because he knew Trump.

50 year old women who had absolutely no idea who he was, and were absolutely anti Trump filled with sympathy for him and his family, talking about how they cant believe the Democrats would do that. One even mentioned never liking Bill Clinton!!!

I think we forget that internet culture doesnt translate to the general public, and in a case like this, it absolutely does!

I agree, this shouldn't create as much as an outcry as actual lawmakers, but I think it shows where the real power in politics lie
 
Relatively well known in the US. Minor celebrity. Young age. , Possible impacts on US politics and mid-terms.

Main thing is this murder has the ability to inflame America and bring about serious changes to things by Republicans.

The sad death of the two Democrats isn't as far reaching and the Republicans weren't as bothered
 

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