A Political Thread pt. 2

[Saintjay]

Daily Star journos stole my joke.

 

[dirty harry]

I see Karoline Leavitt wasted no time in telling people to watch GB news instead of BBC news. Good to see how much they value impartial reporting.

I don't know if that Panorama episode is still on iPlayer but as part of their apology and remediation steps the BBC should remove it and replace it with the entire speech unedited and with no commentary.

Legal experts seems to think that British courts wont rule so generously in favour of Trump as American courts. The BBC should maybe offer to donate $1m to the foodbanks of Trump's choosing. Jimmy Kimmel's ratings are through the roof since Trump tried to cancel him.

Has it?

Kimmel saw 1.17 million end of october, down each week from the the 6 million return episode, or even 2.75 monthly average for September (inflated by the return episode) and back to the slumps of the steady decline from January 1.95m to Augusts 1.1m...

It seems the contraversy when he was at his lowest created a one time bump, and he has gradually returned to the lows of below 1.5m.

 

[General Melchett]

Has it?

Kimmel saw 1.17 million end of october, down each week from the the 6 million return episode, or even 2.75 monthly average for September (inflated by the return episode) and back to the slumps of the steady decline from January 1.95m to Augusts 1.1m...

It seems the contraversy when he was at his lowest created a one time bump, and he has gradually returned to the lows of below 1.5m.

His show is still being blocked by two major ABC affiliate stations. Besides ABC ratings take a look at his YouTube channel. Subs and views are up from pre bump levels. Guy is way more followed than he was before on different platforms and is now more known worldwide. Bottom line is that attempted cancellation of him flopped big time.

 

[dirty harry]

His show is still being blocked by two major ABC affiliate stations. Besides ABC ratings take a look at his YouTube channel. Subs and views are up from pre bump levels. Guy is way more followed than he was before on different platforms and is now more known worldwide. Bottom line is that attempted cancellation of him flopped big time.

I didnt realise he was still being blocked, that might account for it, and i hadnt looked at online presence.

I cant imagine any of it will last, stale shows wont get more popular because of a fight with a very unlikable character, id suggest he got a major bumb during the comeback but it will all settle back to the doldrums where it was tbh

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

BBC News - Didcot residents split as Thames Water reservoir plans go on show - BBC News

Didcot residents split as Thames Water reservoir plans go on show

The public consultation into a new reservoir near Abingdon begins with a feedback session in Didcot.

www.bbc.co.uk

So when it turns out we have insufficient storage capacity in this country and no new capacity had been built in years, everyone complains. A water company says they will build a reservoir and the nimbies are out in force...

 

[Saintjay]

Knives out already. Interesting it mentions number 10 turning on loyal cabinet ministers. Not surprised to keep hearing Streeting keep coming up recently. Personally I think the guy is a snake, i have no evidence to support this observation.

Peston predicting that the prospect of government Bonds falling has kicked this off with Downing St. Due to market fears over Starmer, Reeves position.

"What is very probable is that the price of government bonds, gilts, will fall tomorrow morning, sending borrowing costs soaring, which is a dreadful precursor to Reeves's looming tax-raising budget"

Prime Minister will fight any attempt to replace him, friends say

Allies of the prime minister are worried his job might be under immediate threat.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ncurd]

Madness we're 18months into a 5 year term and hes not done a Johnson

 

[Ddanno]

Personally I think the guy is a snake, i have no evidence to support this observation.

I don't think evidence is required for Wes.

Nothing good will come of this. They're all hopelessly out of their depth, desperately trying to court the racist vote, which then alienates almost everyone that voted for them.

And please not Streeting if it comes to pass, I'm sick of lego headed ***** babbling soundbites. We'd probably have to hear about what his dad did for a living every 3 hours as well.

 

[General Melchett]

The Labour front bench does seem to lack competence, calibre and star quality. Compare it to the Blair/Brown era and it's night and day. Seemed like there was proper heavyweights in that administration.

Lammy is another one who just strikes me as being a gobshite who is ******* useless at being a minister. From what I've read Mahmood seems to be one of the better ones but I can't see her getting the gig in the current political climate.

If Starmer does get the chop after the budget then I hope it sets a precedent for future PMs when it comes to breaking manifesto promises even though his unpopularity is due to a range of issues. Either way I hope the next leader calls a snap GE relatively quickly.

 

[ncurd]

I hope it sets a precedent for future PMs when it comes to breaking manifesto promises even though his unpopularity is due to a range of issues.

The problem is Im unaware of many people who give a damn about it being a manifesto break. At least anyone who supported Labour in the last election. People who are against Starmer use it a stick to beat him with. But those who voted Labour all said hed have raise taxes at some point and accepted it.

His unpopularity is a lack of vision to get us out the mess the Tories left us with. Which why people are moving to the extremes.

 

[General Melchett]

The problem is Im unaware of many people who give a damn about it being a manifesto break. At least anyone who supported Labour in the last election. People who are against Starmer use it a stick to beat him with. But those who voted Labour all said hed have raise taxes at some point and accepted it.

His unpopularity is a lack of vision to get us out the mess the Tories left us with. Which why people are moving to the extremes.

Yeah they've gotten a lot of heat for repeating the Tories £40bn black hole line which doesn't make it any less true/valid. On the other hand constantly blaming predecessors and making excuses isn't a good look. They're not the first Government to inherit a mess and it could have been handled way better.

I think one of the biggest mistakes he's made is to hide away and leave issues like illegal migration/boats issue to his Home Secretary. He should have treated it like a national emergency and given more addresses to the nation on the steps of Downing St to show the public he's on it. Same with the prisons crisis which has been brewing for decades - show people that you're trying to grip it instead of just giving updates in the HoC. I just hope the next leader calls an election within a year as their stock could fall quickly as well as there being a lot of noise about 'lack of mandate' etc.

 

[ncurd]

Yeah they've gotten a lot of heat for repeating the Tories £40bn black hole line which doesn't make it any less true/valid. On the other hand constantly blaming predecessors and making excuses isn't a good look. They're not the first Government to inherit a mess and it could have been handled way better.

I think one of the biggest mistakes he's made is to hide away and leave issues like illegal migration/boats issue to his Home Secretary. He should have treated it like a national emergency and given more addresses to the nation on the steps of Downing St to show the public he's on it. Same with the prisons crisis - show people that you're trying to grip it instead of just giving updates in the HoC. I just hope the next leader calls an election within a year as I fear there will be a lot of noise about 'lack of mandate' etc.

I think him going is fanciful not for another 2 years.

 

[General Melchett]

I think him going is fanciful not for another 2 years.

I think he's gone after the May elections but let's see.

 

[ncurd]

I think he's gone after the May elections but let's see.

Apart from poor polling, why?

His commons mandate is huge, he won't lose a vote of no confidence, he'd need 81MP's of his own MPs to back a single candidate against him under Labour rules to trigger a leadership contest.

This is a Westminster press story, bored from years of Tories on brink of collapsing it has no bearing in reality of the math required for anything to happen.

 

[Saintjay]

The problem I have with breaking manifesto promises. Is it an issue of trust. Which is pretty slim across the country. Starmer has form for breaking promises. You can't trust what he says. Every other party will ram this down his throat.

People went mad about WF allowance, god knows how they'll react to tax raises. I'm guessing those 'working peope' under 50k should be ok, above this those with broad shoulders and all that.

 

[Saintjay]

Apart from poor polling, why?

His commons mandate is huge, he won't lose a vote of no confidence, he'd need 81MP's of his own MPs to back a single candidate against him under Labour rules to trigger a leadership contest.

This is a Westminster press story, bored from years of Tories on brink of collapsing it has no bearing in reality of the math required for anything to happen.

Not sure this is the press. The press are being fed by people within Labour. Every indication is people with Labour are unhappy and briefing against the PM.

Number 10 have reacted briefing the press blaming Streeting. They are all using the press to play politics.

 

[General Melchett]

Apart from poor polling, why?

His commons mandate is huge, he won't lose a vote of no confidence, he'd need 81MP's of his own MPs to back a single candidate against him under Labour rules to trigger a leadership contest.

This is a Westminster press story, bored from years of Tories on brink of collapsing it has no bearing in reality of the math required for anything to happen.

If Labour get a pasting in May there will be a sharp rise in MPs fearing losing their seats (I'm sure many are already fearful) and we could then see a lot of briefing against, manoeuvring and cabinet resignations.

I don't know for sure but it's just my view of how it could play out next year.

 

[Which Tyler]

Yeah they've gotten a lot of heat for repeating the Tories £40bn black hole line which doesn't make it any less true/valid. On the other hand constantly blaming predecessors and making excuses isn't a good look. They're not the first Government to inherit a mess and it could have been handled way better.

I've no problem with blaming the predecessors after 18 months, when those predecessors had 14 years.
The problem is in blaming the predecessors whilst following the same policies.

I'm guessing those 'working peope' under 50k should be ok, above this those with broad shoulders and all that.

As it should be - though in reality we need another tax bracket at circa £100k (and probably another at ~£250k) (well TBH, we need a complete overhaul of the tax system, but that's not happening this side of a violent revolution or hot war in Western Europe)

 

[Which Tyler]

Ferry company apologises after children left ‘screaming’ by pornographic film

DFDS says film was broadcast mistakenly to passengers who had been watching F1 race on France-UK service

www.theguardian.com

It said that an "adult film" was broadcast mistakenly on the lounge television to passengers who had been watching a Formula One grand prix, causing children onboard to be exposed to what one passenger described as "hardcore porn".

A spokesperson said the incident took place during a delay, when the ferry was sent back to France because of a technical fault at Newhaven port.

A group of passengers asked if they could watch the grand prix on the TV in the onboard lounges, and the film played after the race.

DFDS said the crew was not aware the film was due to be broadcast, adding: "Once the crew were alerted to the content, the channel was swiftly changed."

 

[dirty harry]

Ferry company apologises after children left ‘screaming’ by pornographic film

DFDS says film was broadcast mistakenly to passengers who had been watching F1 race on France-UK service

www.theguardian.com

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