When i saw him go over i was thinking "He better put that down sharpish or he'll run out of room", because the commentators kept mentioning how small try area is
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Just checked this on the MySky. He definitely gets it down before his left hand slides over the dead ball line BUT having said that, sooner or later, if players keep doing this showboating crap before they ground the ball, someone is going to screw up big-time.
Not going to debate and start some meat swinging contest that no one wants to really read ... cause offence and have you what not.
Thinking about it ... read it in the papers tomorrow we shall. Cause Im sure it will be a moaning point!
Fair then, just from the angle we saw on the TV and the lack of replays made it looked close.
This one is a famous showboat in NH:
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Remember a few seasons ago in one of our U16 games, one lad was showboating to the try line and got yellow carded for it by the ref :lol:
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Habana was very impressive, same with Hougaard, I would even go as far as saying that Fourie Du Preez better hit top form when he comes back as his beloved number 9 jersey is in risk. They play such similar rugby aswell (Du Preez and Hougaard).
Schalk Burger man of the match? What game were they watching? If it were to go to a South African surely Hougaard should've got it?
Weepu should start over Cowan.
All Blacks were definitely the better team tonight, they looked very strong on attack but handling errors let them down, so did the line out. Boks really need to work on the fitness as those last ten minutes they looked dead and completely out of the game.
EDIT : Leave the show boating, exaggerated celebrations (screaming and running all around the pitch) and cocky attitudes to football.
Schalk Burger man of the match? What game were they watching? If it were to go to a South African surely Hougaard should've got it?
Weepu should start over Cowan.
All Blacks were definitely the better team tonight, they looked very strong on attack but handling errors let them down, so did the line out. Boks really need to work on the fitness as those last ten minutes they looked dead and completely out of the game.
EDIT : Leave the show boating, exaggerated celebrations (screaming and running all around the pitch) and cocky attitudes to football.
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Well yeah exactly. All I'm doing is celebrating. I haven't called South Africans pussies or losers or anything nasty. That would be out of order and not cool. I'm not saying that anyone needs a shoeing or a player needs to be taken out of the game off the ball or anything else. It's just a celebratory comment on results.
I've just stated with :lol: emoticons that hey, the result is the result and always will be. The river of tears comment was not at your average loss accepting South African, just those who always refuse the result and moan on, and on, and on.
When that starts being illegal I'll truly no somethings wrong. I'm happy about a result and that's all.
Ye pretty much agree with that, Burger was pretty good tonight.
His discipline was much better than usual too. He does what McCaw does almost as well, but outshone him several time tonight and hit rucks hard many time too.
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Schalk Burger was good, but Juan Smith did far more than Burger in terms of rucks and running, just because Burger scored a try which is questionable is why I think they gave him man of the match.
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What game were you watching? Morne Steyn was a lot better than he has been and apart from goal kicking Dan Carter was magic, his attacking and platform play was AMAZING and I'm sure he had the major difference this game, the Boks would have won it if Dan was off form.
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Now I know it was John Smit's big day and he so wanted to play the whole 80 minutes in his 100th game, but he was visibly stuffed with 15 minutes to go, and I wonder if he wouldn't have been better being replaced because I think he was the one who missed the tackle on Ma'a Nonu whose break led to Dagg's winning try.
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When Carter missed that sitter three points in front of the posts with five minutes left that would have brought it to two points, I truly questioned whether they had the mental capacity to comeback. But I give them credit that was a ballsy final three minutes. I know Mils is playing brilliantly but doesn't Dagg have a knack for the big moment? Brilliant game
I was thinking that, when they showed Daggs reaction to Carters knockon i was wondering why he wasn't on
To have both Dagg and Mils in one squad is just crazy. How do NZ make such good players?
Bleak.
All I can say is, last fifteen minutes
For ****'s sake.
That's all.
All I can say is, last fifteen minutes
For ****'s sake.
That's all.
Great game , congrats to the ABs supporters, John smit looked like a broken man at the end , so sad. You still a Bok Great John , hold your hear up high. Mccaw was fantastic again so was Carter but whats up with the easy misses ? Said that once the Abs get penalized for slowing the ball down it will be a different game but once again congrats to them.
Lastly Schalb Burger is KING !! MOTM 50/50 him or Mccaw.
Lastly Schalb Burger is KING !! MOTM 50/50 him or Mccaw.
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Enjoyed the game because it was a real contest, and didn't think the ABs could comeback to be honest, because the Boks defence was so good. The Boks really did their homework on the ABs, and I wouldn't have wanted to pick a man of the match for them, as they all played pretty well - only Steyn's kicks going too far, his ruck infringement, and spies's infringement in front of the post's spring to mind as negatives for me.
A shame about the forward pass and the lazy runner prior to McCaw's try, as I thought that the ref had a pretty good day up until then - he was much more vigilant on the tackle/breakdowns than what we've seen.
I think they got it right starting Cowan (particularly at altitude), Weepu played almost 1/2 the game anyway, and I think he makes more of an impact than Jimmie does ... and we definitely needed both of them today.
Israel Dagg also seems to be good off the bench, but will probably start with the likes of Cruden etc, in the next match.
A shame about the forward pass and the lazy runner prior to McCaw's try, as I thought that the ref had a pretty good day up until then - he was much more vigilant on the tackle/breakdowns than what we've seen.
I think they got it right starting Cowan (particularly at altitude), Weepu played almost 1/2 the game anyway, and I think he makes more of an impact than Jimmie does ... and we definitely needed both of them today.
Israel Dagg also seems to be good off the bench, but will probably start with the likes of Cruden etc, in the next match.
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Maginficent game, lost a bit of money as I betted on the 'Boks to win but the ABs are just something special. How many times must we see it?...theres an old saying you might have won the battle but you havent won the war. The ABs might lose a (1) battle in past RWCs but how many wars has this team won?...honestly.
Good on the Springboks they definately are back and played well I hope now they change their mind about leaving SANZAR.
Good on the Springboks they definately are back and played well I hope now they change their mind about leaving SANZAR.
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shtove
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ABs got penalised a lot early on at the breakdown - we were thinking Yellow Soon! But they're smart, they adapt to the ref. Cannot fault them. Or else it was very clever of them to crush Nigel Owens in a ruck and dislodge his rugby brain.
Looking back on this, the Steyn overkicks were very important because SA never had the intention of making that territory with ball in hand. They were forced in the last few minutes to keep it in hand, and de Villiers got snagged in midfield leaving SA with no idea what to do.
Someone thought Burger's try was dodgy? Looked like a precise call by Rolland, and Owens confirmed with him and did the right thing. On McCaw's try, the video ref said, "No clear evidence that the foot was in touch before the ball was grounded. You may award the try." My guess was foot out simultaneous with grounding, therefore no try. But it was very difficult to judge, so they use a kind of burden of proof system - outcome seemed fair to me.
Haven't followed the ABs closely, just the Ireland tests and these past few matches. They have great ability to dart down one wing, then sweep across to the other with an outrageous overlap - McCaw today (Habana absolutely stuffed in the choice he had to make) and the fat prop in the first half, but the best was on right wing against Aus (scored by same prop?). The scrum is a widowmaker. Defence seems good (but 5 tries for Ireland). Only weakness is the long lineout?
