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  1. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    I have a professional interest in this subject. There is no way in a million years I would permit the state to know where I am, who I am and who I am interacting with 24/7. I'd prefer to be considered non-grata than live under those conditions. "You appear to have traveled outside your...
  2. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    When the optics / public opinion become amenable to dealing with mass fatalities via Covid19 rather then dealing with infinite lockdown things will change. We're not that far off already. Some people lack the patience required for the long haul. The immediate problem was mass casualties...
  3. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    Hold up. You had Patrick Vallance claiming that effectively it wasn't a priority. He's on record here: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-case-for-the-herd-immunity-strategy (forgive the source it's the best I could find) He is the Chief Scientific Advisor to the Government. It's his job...
  4. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    Having been initially led by economics they are now being led entirely be epidemiology. Being late to the party means a higher peak. The less people moving, the less cross group transmission. This is still happening in clusters. They don’t want people from a cluster A moving into uninfected...
  5. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    My natural inclination is to be less vehement than Amiga. I also pretty much endorse what you are saying. But........ However, decisions made by accountable people should not be forgotten or swept aside as they are trying their best. Boris Johnson, Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance embarked...
  6. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    Just to close this one off. Looks like governing bodies have taken direction. Only source i could find and not sure if force of law applies. https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/golf-courses-to-close-as-uk-steps-up-coronavirus-fight
  7. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    They’ve changed their mind apparently but that should never be forgotten. By “changed their mind” I imagine a combination of being told and realising their shops might get damaged and the authorities might not do anything about it....
  8. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    I like golf but I don’t get this. Just looking at the primary supply chain for a course. Do green keepers and maintenance staff count as “essential” workers? For everyone you have driving to a course you have their interactions with others e.g. fuel suppliers, the potential for breakdowns...
  9. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    There’s just no telling some people. Presumably they’d drive to the course? Well that’s not “essential” is it? As Ncurd states they shouldn’t be meeting with anybody from outside their household. Golf courses concentrate people, car parks, tee boxes etc. The government are trying to avoid that...
  10. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    It's nudge enforcement. They will be expecting the herd to manage it's own. Those flouting the rules may well find themselves on the end of social media shaming (and possibly worse). The idea is to get a sizable number of folk to comply and they set this up a blinder. If the behaviourial...
  11. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    "Like" is completely the wrong sentiment but you've obviously put some thought into that post. As I've stated before (up-thread) I'm not an epidemiologist but I have been following this closely since it emerged in China. In my opinion the west have been slow to recognise the threat and slower...
  12. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    Christ! If Dr Who can get this we’re stuffed!
  13. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    If fear the Government's behavioural scientists almost as much as I fear the virus at this point. There was an interesting article the other day about the stock the U.K. Government put in this. However, "nudging" is not working and is the wrong tool for this particular situation. It'll lead to...
  14. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    Quite. I wonder whether Mike would like to step into the big shoes and actually run public policy on this one? The U.K. government is dealing with more than science at this point. Releasing testing / death rates may make people feel like we're doing "something" but in reality without capacity...
  15. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] - Things to do when under lockdown

    Snigger. I'm too juvenile for self isolation!
  16. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    This is how behavioural science works. Leak potentially harsh measure Monitor social media response to see if it will fly Deny harsh measure will be employed Deploy less harsh but still massively restrictive measures Plebs cheer because they think they've "won" The practicalities of "locking...
  17. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    So plan A of "herd immunity" via "mitigation" has been abandoned on what day 3 since it was floated and now we're back to "suppress" which is what the WHO said should have been happening? However, the opportunity to "suppress" has been fundamentally undermined by the delay in introducing...
  18. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rugby-football-union-suspends-all-rugby?fbclid=IwAR0cDE0wgy93RoZYJZyI9JPQv2HIDKySX4fnOWwmsZIpozersDdHX9Sae9U Inevitable I guess. Still very sad. Good luck all. Stay safe. Genuinely interested, how so? I assume ignoring the instructions of the union...
  19. Yoshimitsu

    [COVID-19] General Discussion

    https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rugby-football-union-suspends-all-rugby?fbclid=IwAR0cDE0wgy93RoZYJZyI9JPQv2HIDKySX4fnOWwmsZIpozersDdHX9Sae9U Inevitable I guess. Still very sad. Good luck all. Stay safe.
  20. Yoshimitsu

    A Political Thread

    Sigh. I fear we're in uncharted territory. The Chinese, South Koreans, Japanese and Singaporeans embarked down a road of tracing and elimination. Following the same process they went down with SARS which effectively eliminated that virus. https://www.cdc.gov/dotw/sars/index.html That virus...
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