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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/28/rugby-union-british-irish-lions-2021-tour-of-south-africa-set-to-go-ahead-as-scheduled "British & Irish Lions 2021 tour of South Africa set to go ahead as scheduled Test series due to take place in July and August next year" Good to have this...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/28/rugby-union-british-irish-lions-2021-tour-of-south-africa-set-to-go-ahead-as-scheduled
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    Most of the players named for the Lions or the two host nation teams assembled here deserve to be in close consideration as the best in their position in those three more decades. The same applies to the individuals liste in the honorable-mention-category. This group would contain for Australia...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    One measure is obvious. Since there was not too much “dissent” on the South African team. And since unsurprisingly the epic battle against Australia 1989 was so much appreciated: 1 Cameron Lillicrap 2 Stephen Moore 3 Sekope Kepu 4 John Eales 5 Garrick Morgan 6 Willie Ofahengaue 7 David Pocock 8...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    Also left out are true like greats Krynauw Otto, Duane Vermeulen, Cobus Reinach, Henry Honnibal, Braam Van Staaten, JJ Engelbrecht, Deon Kayser, Pieter Roussow, James Small, Cheslin Kolbe, Brent Russell, Andre Joubert, Gavin Johnson.
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    WHO KNOWS THE AMAZING FLIPPIE VAN DER MERWE ? Great South African players, still something cockeyed in the selection: too much choice at loose head, too little at tight head. There is no place for galloping rhinos like Willie Hills or “Ritchie” Bands. On the other side mostly big static men...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    Since the fine people who picked this up are obviously well versed with the Lions history in question: It makes sense to honor this selection by naming one such team against which they measured themselves against. Yummy. Tendai Mtwarira Dr. Uli Schmidt Flippie van der Merwe Eben Etzebeth...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    Richards, Mark Jones, and Phil Davies were among those I could not fit in. But there was more regret on other positions as well. Like with the Vunipola brothers, Martin Corry, Jonathan Davies (the elder,) Mike Catt, Brian Ashton, Mike Brown, Liam Williams. Always at their (sometimes brief) best...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    That is the thing. Different eras mattered. Mostly for how I looked at it in the case of Deano. Eightmen from some point on were expected to pick up the ball and use the wiggle room provided by the flankers being forced to stay bound at the scrum. By charging with some pace. A new still beefy...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    The second team would look like this 1 Nick Popplewell 2 Steve Thompson 3 Alex Corbosiero 4 Martyn Johnson 5 Alun Wyn Jones 6 Richard Hill 7 Sam Warburton 8 Mike Teague 9 Gary Armstrong 10 Jonathan Sexton 11 Ben Cohen 12 Scott Gibbs 13 Jeremy Guscott 14 Simon Geoghegan 15 Stuart Hogg Since a...
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    Best Lions XV 1989 to date (yes, there are Sotsmen in it. And a pacific islander.)

    This is based on the talent available at the time, regardless who actually made it on a tour or not (see Ferris or Armstrong.) Each player is valued by his abilities at the maximum of his powers. Not about lifetime achievement or longevity. The balance of the team mattered (otherwise also Scott...
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    True resilience: Maro Itoje. Warren Gatland himself said it. Dropped some hints but then named his name. Other takeaways from what he was quoted as saying on Rugby365 the other day, elaborated by Ian MacGeechan: Kruis is in the mix as well, therefore competition at lock would be high...
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    “excluded, with regret, AWJ, Faletau, POM, Marler, Healey, Owens, and Aki” Forgot the player's player of the 2017 tour – Foxy. He is about pace. How he ran down Laumape after his intercept. But pace fades away with age. Jonathan Davies is a great player. But he is not like BOD who could...
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    That's precisely what I meant. (It was a climbdown.)
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    Aki, less the figure for his age. Just the strong perception of an "good old" war horse. Which has been "in the wars." Not in a lookout role. But as a battering ram.
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    The captaincy question touches a different aspect. Due to the availabilty of Alun Wyn Jones. The lockdown enforced restriction (or focus) to fitness work alone for a long time is entirely unprecedented. There is clearly less wear and tear compared to a crowded fixture list of hard fought pro...
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    At that point, I do share the doubts about Farrell (occasional hot-headedness, overwhelmed in a couple of big matches like the WC final.) And Itoje to me is a star player more than a captain. So valid choices to me would be Ryan and Hogg. With Hoggy checking two boxes more: Been on a Lions...
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    To sum up to collective brain storming: The captaincy question is valid because, for different raesons, there are widespread doubts about Alun Wyn Jones assuming this role. Sexton is hardly mentioned. Leaves only Farrell and Hogg. Of the home country incumbents. A choice of two justifies...
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    I'm sorry, that was an important point. Wanted to pick it up, but got sidetracked. Would understand that you feel cold shouldered. Read about that when it came out from a news agency. What I gathered from the information tossed about there this queston is open. And will stay so for a while. But...
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    Your Lions Squad Based on this Season?

    Sense of humor failure? I'm determined, the Lions provide the role model
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