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1st TEST: South Africa v Lions
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<blockquote data-quote="dullonien" data-source="post: 268441"><p>Oh man, where to start.....</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sebastian_Chabal @ Jun 22 2009, 01:23 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=401836" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p>* Maybe you should look back at the thread again, as it was many of the South African members who were concerned with their front row. Although a few members expected the Lions to have a slight upper hand scrum time, no-one was claiming that the Boks scrum would 'crumble'! And no, the Lions scrum became stable when Adam Jones came on to the field, not when Beast and Smit left (they were still there for the first two scrums, one of which went backwards!).</p><p>* Yes, Heaslip was poor, but he was behind a retreating pack. I don't see you having a go at the SA members for claiming Spies would destroy the Lions. Both were pretty anonymous, but that makes Spies worse imo, if he can't shine when his front 5 are dominating by that margin, something's wrong. Yes, fine he did some good work around the field, but so did Heaslip.</p><p>* I don't recall anybody claiming O'Connell was as good as the Boks second rows. All the player for player comparisons done on the first few pages put Botha and Matfield clearly ahead of O'Connel and Jones.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Yes they were, but then the Lions dominated in the backs. PVD made some bad decisions, I agree, but the Lions comeback started before the bench was emptied. Du Plessis looked like he needed to come off, as he was starting to pick fights, and the Beast was going backwards scrum time at the hands of Jones.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Watch the game again! Whether the SA midfield were poor defensively or not, all Roberts and BOD could do was play what was in front of them (the best 12 in game apparently /jk). Fourie had no impact after coming on and Roberts still made inroads, hmm.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>Agree wholeheartedly, as do many other Lions fans (An Tarbh etc.)</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div></p><p>No need to apologise, your English is great.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dullonien, post: 268441"] Oh man, where to start..... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sebastian_Chabal @ Jun 22 2009, 01:23 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=401836']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> * Maybe you should look back at the thread again, as it was many of the South African members who were concerned with their front row. Although a few members expected the Lions to have a slight upper hand scrum time, no-one was claiming that the Boks scrum would 'crumble'! And no, the Lions scrum became stable when Adam Jones came on to the field, not when Beast and Smit left (they were still there for the first two scrums, one of which went backwards!). * Yes, Heaslip was poor, but he was behind a retreating pack. I don't see you having a go at the SA members for claiming Spies would destroy the Lions. Both were pretty anonymous, but that makes Spies worse imo, if he can't shine when his front 5 are dominating by that margin, something's wrong. Yes, fine he did some good work around the field, but so did Heaslip. * I don't recall anybody claiming O'Connell was as good as the Boks second rows. All the player for player comparisons done on the first few pages put Botha and Matfield clearly ahead of O'Connel and Jones. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Yes they were, but then the Lions dominated in the backs. PVD made some bad decisions, I agree, but the Lions comeback started before the bench was emptied. Du Plessis looked like he needed to come off, as he was starting to pick fights, and the Beast was going backwards scrum time at the hands of Jones. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Watch the game again! Whether the SA midfield were poor defensively or not, all Roberts and BOD could do was play what was in front of them (the best 12 in game apparently /jk). Fourie had no impact after coming on and Roberts still made inroads, hmm. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> Agree wholeheartedly, as do many other Lions fans (An Tarbh etc.) <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div> No need to apologise, your English is great. [/QUOTE]
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