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2003 - It's all about St Jonny
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<blockquote data-quote="ncurd" data-source="post: 1012918" data-attributes="member: 72205"><p>Admittedly I missed this on the original reply and just went ah "I can't be arsed its an opinion" but its the usual he only kicks and defends ******** I was reading 17 years ago. But this, its not like the English have a mental problem everytime they try a new fly half and they show even the slightest defensive frailty because of St. Johnny. You can stick a lot caveats on whether Wilko was the best overall fly half but on defense I'll quite happily categorically state he's the best of all time (currently) and litreally rewrote the book on what it defending from that position.</p><p></p><p>You really need to go watch a whole bunch 2002-3 era England again and not just the highlight reels. The point came from penalties, penalties that were caused by being in good attacking positions usually orchestrated from fly half (as these things are). England's reputation wasn't scoring from kicks was because they were one of the first teams to show absolute pragmatism working out they were far more likely to score from taking the points than going for glory kicking it to the corner. 17 years on and all teams do it and having a high percentage kicker is vital to any teams success. Few games are won by not kicking your points and even this weekend shows the mess you can get if you kicker is having an off day. England got called boring for always taking the points not because they weren't capable of scintillating play. Thats not a defense of Wilkinson just a 'they only score from goal kicks' was tired cliche back in 2003 let alone now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ncurd, post: 1012918, member: 72205"] Admittedly I missed this on the original reply and just went ah "I can't be arsed its an opinion" but its the usual he only kicks and defends ******** I was reading 17 years ago. But this, its not like the English have a mental problem everytime they try a new fly half and they show even the slightest defensive frailty because of St. Johnny. You can stick a lot caveats on whether Wilko was the best overall fly half but on defense I'll quite happily categorically state he's the best of all time (currently) and litreally rewrote the book on what it defending from that position. You really need to go watch a whole bunch 2002-3 era England again and not just the highlight reels. The point came from penalties, penalties that were caused by being in good attacking positions usually orchestrated from fly half (as these things are). England's reputation wasn't scoring from kicks was because they were one of the first teams to show absolute pragmatism working out they were far more likely to score from taking the points than going for glory kicking it to the corner. 17 years on and all teams do it and having a high percentage kicker is vital to any teams success. Few games are won by not kicking your points and even this weekend shows the mess you can get if you kicker is having an off day. England got called boring for always taking the points not because they weren't capable of scintillating play. Thats not a defense of Wilkinson just a 'they only score from goal kicks' was tired cliche back in 2003 let alone now. [/QUOTE]
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