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<blockquote data-quote="Mrs. Peter Quinn" data-source="post: 615956" data-attributes="member: 12190"><p>Wait there's a big difference between two things you've said here: That they have shown good form but enough for England is completely correct. Don't disagree for a second with that. But that they are average premiership players? My ponit isn't that they are international quality, more that how can we know when they are both so young and thus far have done everything you could expect of them? We keep monitoring them and see if they play well and continue to improve. After that, professional rugby is about meeting each challenge as it arises, not about showing world class quality whilst your playing at premiership level at the age of 20. Playing well enough to be in a championship side is a step all professionals must take. The lydiates, Warburtons of this world were loaned out to smaller provincial sides and earned their salt that way. Getting a contract in the premiership level and matching the required proficiencies is a step you can't make until given the chance to play to that level. Then being given an international call and playing well, etc. Lots of guys have done this. Rugby at different levels isn't an entirely different game, it's about meeting each challenge as it comes and doing what is expected of you at each stage. Therefore to write people off after such a short time is wrong. As is sugegsting them for England.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mrs. Peter Quinn, post: 615956, member: 12190"] Wait there's a big difference between two things you've said here: That they have shown good form but enough for England is completely correct. Don't disagree for a second with that. But that they are average premiership players? My ponit isn't that they are international quality, more that how can we know when they are both so young and thus far have done everything you could expect of them? We keep monitoring them and see if they play well and continue to improve. After that, professional rugby is about meeting each challenge as it arises, not about showing world class quality whilst your playing at premiership level at the age of 20. Playing well enough to be in a championship side is a step all professionals must take. The lydiates, Warburtons of this world were loaned out to smaller provincial sides and earned their salt that way. Getting a contract in the premiership level and matching the required proficiencies is a step you can't make until given the chance to play to that level. Then being given an international call and playing well, etc. Lots of guys have done this. Rugby at different levels isn't an entirely different game, it's about meeting each challenge as it comes and doing what is expected of you at each stage. Therefore to write people off after such a short time is wrong. As is sugegsting them for England. [/QUOTE]
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