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<blockquote data-quote="Larksea" data-source="post: 690469" data-attributes="member: 43875"><p>Donald played 50min, only Conrad Smith made more tackles (in 80min) in the backs and it was only a couple more, two critical turnovers came from Donald Tackles including the final one of the match to give the AB's final possession to run the clock down. He made 1 of the 2 All Black line breaks in the entire game and he kicked the winning goal.</p><p></p><p>Am I wrong yes or no?</p><p></p><p>Then in your own words (Or Darwin) explain how Aaron Cruden should be the one getting credit for the victory? Feel free to get creative I know you will have to. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Heck maybe I missed something and Cruden should have been man of the match?! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>It's true my saying the AB's would have had an easier win if Donald had started is speculation, I happily admit that. Still a more realistic speculation than thinking the AB's would have won in cruise control with Cruden playing 10 and kicking goals for full 80. Cruden played a bit role in the feel out period of the game. Donald played a HUGE role in the actual result, his physicality on the inside channel when McCaw was stuck at the bottom of rucks when the french went on their 2nd half rampage as IMO even more important than the goal he kicked. It's been well documented that even though Donald had not been training when he came into camp his goal kicking clicked and he was slotting everything in training, the one shot he took he nailed and he could easily have got the shots Piri was missing, they would have been regulation kicks for Donald and he proved he was up to the pressure that day and Cruden simply was not trusted to take these kicks.</p><p></p><p>You think the first half of the game was the same as the 2nd? Like 2007? Like 1999? Time to wake up <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As for Perenara stats dont show everything. The issue wasn't his tackling it was that he was never in the right place to make the tackles. Was actually an interview on sky with Mark Hammett discussing the fragility of the canes defense and the issues Barrett and Perenara were having implementing their patterns and that the fix was more focused on what Perenara was doing wrong and what he needed to do.</p><p></p><p>not sure where your tom Taylor comment comes from, hes had 1 high pressure chance to shine with the others injured and he nailed it, unlike Crudens first big test when he had a shocker got the shepherds crook early and Colin Slade came on and secured the victory. Considering Range and accuracy Tom Taylor has no equals in the NZ game when it comes to goal kicking. He's equal or better than Carter, Barrett or Anscome at their best. he has a smart under rated low risk attacking game hes fantastic on support and followup and can tackle anything. The guy is "taylor" made for WC rugby even if he's not the best week in week out for tests and the fact is the All Blacks could get through the group phase with any of our top 10 first fives and it wont matter what the PD is. Heck the AB's could get through group play with Benji Marshall at 10! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larksea, post: 690469, member: 43875"] Donald played 50min, only Conrad Smith made more tackles (in 80min) in the backs and it was only a couple more, two critical turnovers came from Donald Tackles including the final one of the match to give the AB's final possession to run the clock down. He made 1 of the 2 All Black line breaks in the entire game and he kicked the winning goal. Am I wrong yes or no? Then in your own words (Or Darwin) explain how Aaron Cruden should be the one getting credit for the victory? Feel free to get creative I know you will have to. :) Heck maybe I missed something and Cruden should have been man of the match?! :) It's true my saying the AB's would have had an easier win if Donald had started is speculation, I happily admit that. Still a more realistic speculation than thinking the AB's would have won in cruise control with Cruden playing 10 and kicking goals for full 80. Cruden played a bit role in the feel out period of the game. Donald played a HUGE role in the actual result, his physicality on the inside channel when McCaw was stuck at the bottom of rucks when the french went on their 2nd half rampage as IMO even more important than the goal he kicked. It's been well documented that even though Donald had not been training when he came into camp his goal kicking clicked and he was slotting everything in training, the one shot he took he nailed and he could easily have got the shots Piri was missing, they would have been regulation kicks for Donald and he proved he was up to the pressure that day and Cruden simply was not trusted to take these kicks. You think the first half of the game was the same as the 2nd? Like 2007? Like 1999? Time to wake up :) As for Perenara stats dont show everything. The issue wasn't his tackling it was that he was never in the right place to make the tackles. Was actually an interview on sky with Mark Hammett discussing the fragility of the canes defense and the issues Barrett and Perenara were having implementing their patterns and that the fix was more focused on what Perenara was doing wrong and what he needed to do. not sure where your tom Taylor comment comes from, hes had 1 high pressure chance to shine with the others injured and he nailed it, unlike Crudens first big test when he had a shocker got the shepherds crook early and Colin Slade came on and secured the victory. Considering Range and accuracy Tom Taylor has no equals in the NZ game when it comes to goal kicking. He's equal or better than Carter, Barrett or Anscome at their best. he has a smart under rated low risk attacking game hes fantastic on support and followup and can tackle anything. The guy is "taylor" made for WC rugby even if he's not the best week in week out for tests and the fact is the All Blacks could get through the group phase with any of our top 10 first fives and it wont matter what the PD is. Heck the AB's could get through group play with Benji Marshall at 10! :D [/QUOTE]
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