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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 526968" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>And now this</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9564066/English-clubs-warned-they-could-face-European-isolation-by-ERC-chairman-Jean-Pierre-Lux.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9564066/English-clubs-warned-they-could-face-European-isolation-by-ERC-chairman-Jean-Pierre-Lux.html</a></p><p></p><p>[TEXTAREA]<strong>English clubs warned they could face European isolation by ERC chairman Jean-Pierre Lux.</strong></p><p></p><p>English clubs were on Monday night accused of holding direct talks with South African clubs and warned they could be cast adrift from future European competitions following claims that Premiership Rugby's new broadcasting deal with BT Vision was "illegal". The accusations were made by Jean-Pierre Lux, the chairman of European Rugby Cup Limited, the governing body of the Heineken Cup, at a press conference involving all seven French qualifiers for this season's tournament. </p><p></p><p>Premiership Rugby last night denied it had held any formal talks with South Africa. But Lux's claims will increase tensions ahead of the next ERC stakeholders' meeting to resolve the fallout over Premiership Rugby's decision to unilaterally sign a £152 million deal with BT Vision, which included the rights to European ties involving English clubs from 2014. </p><p></p><p>"This is shocking because it is illegal," Lux said of Premiership Rugby's new broadcasting deal. </p><p></p><p>ERC says it has struck a four-year deal with the current rights holder BSkyB starting in 2013. </p><p></p><p>"The English delegates at the ERC did not say anything about how the money from the deal will be shared between the domestic and European competitions and how it will be shared with the other countries' clubs," Lux said. </p><p></p><p>"They opened talks directly with some South African and French clubs. This has hampered the negotiations. It is hard to talk with them. We may have to move on without the English, though I do not want that." </p><p></p><p>A Premiership Rugby spokesman refuted Lux's claims. "No formal discussions have taken place with the South Africans," he said. "We have put our proposals to ERC and we look forward to their response. </p><p></p><p>"We withdrew from the accord in June and ERC has accepted that it cannot include the rights of the English clubs in any other rights deal it does." </p><p></p><p>Lux's threat that English clubs could be frozen out of future European competitions is likely to inflame the situation less than a week after Rugby Football Union chairman Bill Beaumont offered his services to act as peace broker. </p><p>However, Premiership Rugby's bid to overhaul the Heineken Cup by reducing the number of clubs from 24 to 20 with just six qualifying from the RaboDirect Pro12 league, did receive widespread support from the French clubs. </p><p>[/TEXTAREA]</p><p></p><p>Are the PRL really determined to put English rugby into isolation?</p><p></p><p></p><p>From this side of the planet, the entire episode seem to have all the hallmarks of a cross between a game of chicken and a testosterone fuelled ******* contest, and of course, any avid movie goer will remember Captain Bart Mancuso's famous one-liner from The Hunt for Red October....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 526968, member: 20605"] And now this [URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9564066/English-clubs-warned-they-could-face-European-isolation-by-ERC-chairman-Jean-Pierre-Lux.html[/URL] [TEXTAREA][B]English clubs warned they could face European isolation by ERC chairman Jean-Pierre Lux.[/B] English clubs were on Monday night accused of holding direct talks with South African clubs and warned they could be cast adrift from future European competitions following claims that Premiership Rugby’s new broadcasting deal with BT Vision was “illegal”. The accusations were made by Jean-Pierre Lux, the chairman of European Rugby Cup Limited, the governing body of the Heineken Cup, at a press conference involving all seven French qualifiers for this season’s tournament. Premiership Rugby last night denied it had held any formal talks with South Africa. But Lux’s claims will increase tensions ahead of the next ERC stakeholders’ meeting to resolve the fallout over Premiership Rugby’s decision to unilaterally sign a £152 million deal with BT Vision, which included the rights to European ties involving English clubs from 2014. “This is shocking because it is illegal,” Lux said of Premiership Rugby’s new broadcasting deal. ERC says it has struck a four-year deal with the current rights holder BSkyB starting in 2013. “The English delegates at the ERC did not say anything about how the money from the deal will be shared between the domestic and European competitions and how it will be shared with the other countries’ clubs,” Lux said. “They opened talks directly with some South African and French clubs. This has hampered the negotiations. It is hard to talk with them. We may have to move on without the English, though I do not want that.” A Premiership Rugby spokesman refuted Lux’s claims. “No formal discussions have taken place with the South Africans,” he said. “We have put our proposals to ERC and we look forward to their response. "We withdrew from the accord in June and ERC has accepted that it cannot include the rights of the English clubs in any other rights deal it does.” Lux’s threat that English clubs could be frozen out of future European competitions is likely to inflame the situation less than a week after Rugby Football Union chairman Bill Beaumont offered his services to act as peace broker. However, Premiership Rugby’s bid to overhaul the Heineken Cup by reducing the number of clubs from 24 to 20 with just six qualifying from the RaboDirect Pro12 league, did receive widespread support from the French clubs. [/TEXTAREA] Are the PRL really determined to put English rugby into isolation? From this side of the planet, the entire episode seem to have all the hallmarks of a cross between a game of chicken and a testosterone fuelled ******* contest, and of course, any avid movie goer will remember Captain Bart Mancuso's famous one-liner from The Hunt for Red October.... [/QUOTE]
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