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<blockquote data-quote="Patchey" data-source="post: 672664" data-attributes="member: 61403"><p>If I was picking a team based both on form so far and how I <strong>think </strong>players will be doing by the autumn I'd do something like this:</p><p></p><p>1 Corbs</p><p>2 Hartley</p><p>3 Wilson</p><p>4 Launchbury</p><p>5 Lawes</p><p>6 Robshaw</p><p>7 Haskell</p><p>8 Morgan</p><p>9 Care</p><p>10 Burns / Ford</p><p>11 Yarde</p><p>12 Twelvetrees / Eastmond</p><p>13 Tuilagi</p><p>14 Nowell</p><p>15 Brown</p><p></p><p>16. Webber, 17. Marler, 18. Sinckler, 19. Attwood, 20. Kvesic 21. Simpson, 22. Cipriani, 23. Daly.</p><p></p><p>That is an England team I could get very excited about. Realistically of course I think while that starting back line <em>might</em> happen, the bench will be very different and Wood is so cemented in the 7 shirt he'd have to lose a leg to be dropped.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agree on all there, except I am even more concerned about Outside-Centre. In theory we have plenty of depth behind Tuilagi, but in practice it is all a bit shaky. Burrell did well in the 6N (very well in fact) but then looked pap in NZ, so I'm not sure where he stands (and as I previously mentioned, he's a bit static development wise as he isn't playing 13 at Saints). Daly has buckets and buckets of talent but needs to have a good run of games at 13 before we'll know for sure if he's ready to step up. Joseph seems to be out of favour with the management. Trinder doesn't convince me he'll ever be able to step up full to test level, despite being a very good domestic player. Slade seems to be getting a run at 13 but we all know he's a 10/12 at heart.</p><p></p><p>More than that though, I'm not convinced that we're set up to play our best without a player like Manu at 13, even if one of the guys mentioned above comes good. When I was watching the Wasps game this weekend I kept thinking how much I'd love to see someone who passes like Daly in the Outside Centre channel. However on second thoughts, do we have a 10-12 axis that would get the ball to him in the right places and do we have a set of outside backs who are used to playing outside that kind of running/passing 13? The answer to the first question is no in my opinion. As for the second, guys like Nowell, Wade, Brown and Yarde have all played outside distributing 13s at club level but it seem that the England back line has become conditioned to expect a 13 to either make a break and offload or smash it up, recycle the ball quickly and for the outside backs to get ball on the second phase. If we really want to have a squad with depth and versatility in the backs we need to learn to rely less on a Tuilagi type player but I don't see how we do that in the time between now and 2015.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patchey, post: 672664, member: 61403"] If I was picking a team based both on form so far and how I [B]think [/B]players will be doing by the autumn I'd do something like this: 1 Corbs 2 Hartley 3 Wilson 4 Launchbury 5 Lawes 6 Robshaw 7 Haskell 8 Morgan 9 Care 10 Burns / Ford 11 Yarde 12 Twelvetrees / Eastmond 13 Tuilagi 14 Nowell 15 Brown 16. Webber, 17. Marler, 18. Sinckler, 19. Attwood, 20. Kvesic 21. Simpson, 22. Cipriani, 23. Daly. That is an England team I could get very excited about. Realistically of course I think while that starting back line [I]might[/I] happen, the bench will be very different and Wood is so cemented in the 7 shirt he'd have to lose a leg to be dropped. Agree on all there, except I am even more concerned about Outside-Centre. In theory we have plenty of depth behind Tuilagi, but in practice it is all a bit shaky. Burrell did well in the 6N (very well in fact) but then looked pap in NZ, so I'm not sure where he stands (and as I previously mentioned, he's a bit static development wise as he isn't playing 13 at Saints). Daly has buckets and buckets of talent but needs to have a good run of games at 13 before we'll know for sure if he's ready to step up. Joseph seems to be out of favour with the management. Trinder doesn't convince me he'll ever be able to step up full to test level, despite being a very good domestic player. Slade seems to be getting a run at 13 but we all know he's a 10/12 at heart. More than that though, I'm not convinced that we're set up to play our best without a player like Manu at 13, even if one of the guys mentioned above comes good. When I was watching the Wasps game this weekend I kept thinking how much I'd love to see someone who passes like Daly in the Outside Centre channel. However on second thoughts, do we have a 10-12 axis that would get the ball to him in the right places and do we have a set of outside backs who are used to playing outside that kind of running/passing 13? The answer to the first question is no in my opinion. As for the second, guys like Nowell, Wade, Brown and Yarde have all played outside distributing 13s at club level but it seem that the England back line has become conditioned to expect a 13 to either make a break and offload or smash it up, recycle the ball quickly and for the outside backs to get ball on the second phase. If we really want to have a squad with depth and versatility in the backs we need to learn to rely less on a Tuilagi type player but I don't see how we do that in the time between now and 2015. [/QUOTE]
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