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Rugby World Cup 2015
[2015 RWC] Pool A: England vs. Fiji (18/09/2015)
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<blockquote data-quote="j&#039;nuh" data-source="post: 747519" data-attributes="member: 55446"><p>Do you have visual proof the try was scored? All the camera angles I know about were obscured. Peyper was stood with what looks like a direct line of sight to what happened. I'm assuming the ball was held up, hence a PT given.</p><p></p><p>We've seen three yellow cards given for cynical play in the 5m area from the tryline given this weekend. One in England-Fiji, one in Ireland-Canada, one in New Zealand-Argentina. I don't understand how you can't see that cynical play in such an area is a straight yellow card? It's about as uncontroversial as you can get.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes he did. He came in at the side at a maul in attempt to bring it down. As a result, he landed directly under the ball carrier, probably blocking him off from touching the ball down. Doing it so close to the line makes it cynical.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Refereeing consistency is important. In the vast, vast majority of cases, acting cynically so close to the line is a straight yellow card. If it was done somewhere near the middle of the field, discretion comes into play. Not when it's so close to the line.</p><p></p><p>And no, upgrading to a PT is not in itself a punishment. It's a replacement for the try that would have been scored anyway. The try that would have been scored was central; it would have been a 7-pointer. If you don't discourage players who cynically try to stop certain tries, then what deterrent is there to stop them doing it? If they don't do it, it's a certain try. If they do it, there's a chance that you can stop the try and get away with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="j'nuh, post: 747519, member: 55446"] Do you have visual proof the try was scored? All the camera angles I know about were obscured. Peyper was stood with what looks like a direct line of sight to what happened. I'm assuming the ball was held up, hence a PT given. We've seen three yellow cards given for cynical play in the 5m area from the tryline given this weekend. One in England-Fiji, one in Ireland-Canada, one in New Zealand-Argentina. I don't understand how you can't see that cynical play in such an area is a straight yellow card? It's about as uncontroversial as you can get. Yes he did. He came in at the side at a maul in attempt to bring it down. As a result, he landed directly under the ball carrier, probably blocking him off from touching the ball down. Doing it so close to the line makes it cynical. Refereeing consistency is important. In the vast, vast majority of cases, acting cynically so close to the line is a straight yellow card. If it was done somewhere near the middle of the field, discretion comes into play. Not when it's so close to the line. And no, upgrading to a PT is not in itself a punishment. It's a replacement for the try that would have been scored anyway. The try that would have been scored was central; it would have been a 7-pointer. If you don't discourage players who cynically try to stop certain tries, then what deterrent is there to stop them doing it? If they don't do it, it's a certain try. If they do it, there's a chance that you can stop the try and get away with it. [/QUOTE]
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