2018/19 Match Day Squads

Discussion in 'Guinness Pro14' started by dullonien, May 15, 2018.

  1. dullonien

    dullonien International

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    5,202
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Interesting to see how the strongest possible match day squads are shaping up for every side in the competition for next season, so post your below. Also do you think it's an improvement on this season?

    I'll kick it off with the Dragons purely because there's massive changes due over the summer:

    01 Ryan Bevington
    02 Elliot Dee
    03 Aaron Jarvis
    04 Cory Hill
    05 Brandon Nansen
    06 Ross Moriarty
    07 Olie Griffiths
    08 Harri Keddie

    09 Rhodri Williams
    10 Jacob Botica
    11 Jordan Williams
    12 Jack Dixon
    13 Tyler Morgan
    14 Ashton Hewitt
    15 Halam Amos

    16 Richard Hibbard
    17 Brock Harris
    18 Leon Brown
    19 Rynard Landman
    20 Lewis Evans
    21 Charlie Davies
    22 Gavin Henson
    23 Dafydd Howells

    Dragons should certainly be much improved, and they're not far off having a very decent starting IV. Their most important signing so far imo is Aaron Jarvis, because he's an international quality tighthead who can scrummage, their biggest problem area this season.

    That could be a very tasty backrow.......

    They still have a massive question mark at 10 though! I've selected Botica there based on his premiership form, but it's a massive step-up to regional rugby. Currently their other options are an over the hill Henson, or a very green Arwel Robson. In this regard, Owen Williams would be a massive signing if they could land him.

    I'm backing Jordan Williams to have an impact. I still maintain he's the most devastating open field player I've seen, inc. Shane Williams. I'm not ruling out the possibility of him slotting in at 10. He's certainly got the ability.

    Dafydd Howells should also provide excellent back 3 cover, massive untapped potential there, and certainly a big step-up from Kirchener.

    A lot will depend on Jackman though. Can he get them playing consistently high quality rugby?
     
  2. Forum Ad Advertisement

  3. dullonien

    dullonien International

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    5,202
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Fine, I'll continue with the Ospreys:

    01 Nicky Smith
    02 Sam Parry/Scott Baldwin/Scott Otten
    03 Tom Botha
    04 Bradley Davies
    05 AWJ
    06 Olly Cracknell
    07 Justin Tipuric
    08 Dan Baker

    09 Aled Davies
    10 Sam Davies
    11 Keelan Giles
    12 Scott Williams
    13 Owen Watkin
    14 George North
    15 Dan Evans

    16 One of the three above.
    17 Rhodri Jones
    18 Ma'afu Fia
    19 Adam Beard
    20 James King
    21 Tom Habberfield
    22 James Hook
    23 Cory Allen

    Ospreys are losing the likes of Biggar, Webb, Arhip, Beck, Fonotia & Hassler, with Scott Williams, North, Aled Davies and Botha coming in. They'll be hoping that some of their perma-injured players this season will be back fit, especially Baker, Lydiate and Giles, which will help offset some of those leaving players. On the whole, they're currently shaping up to be slightly weaker next season, especially their backup options at 10 and centre. Hook looks the shadow of his former self, yet is the only backup option to Sam Davies at 10, who himself has dipped considerably from last season; whilst they've lost both Beck and Fonotia in the centres, but only signed Scott Williams.

    Still, the hope would be for a far stronger showing next season, after underperforming so spectacularly this season. The key for them may be whether Sam Davies can regain his mojo!
     
  4. bushytop

    bushytop First XV

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,180
    Location:
    Here be dragons!
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Club or Nation:

    London Welsh

    Scarlets:

    1. Rob Evans
    2. Ken Owens
    3. Samson Lee
    4. Jake Ball
    5. Blade Thomson
    6. Aaron Shingler
    7. James Davies
    8. Uzair Cassiem

    9. Gareth Davies
    10. Rhys Patchell
    11. Steff Evans
    12. Hadleigh Parkes
    13. Jonathan Davies
    14. Johnny McNichol
    15. Leigh Halfpenny

    16. Wyn Jones
    17. Ryan Elias
    18. Werner Kruger
    19. Steve Cummings
    20. Will Boyd
    21. Jonathan Evans
    22. Dan Jones
    23. Tom Prydie

    Will be interesting to see how Thomson and Cassiem do, replacing a couple of Scarlet greats in Byrne and Barclay.
     
  5. dullonien

    dullonien International

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    5,202
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Only position I'd question there is Halfpenny at fullback. McNicholl offers far more imo, and then it's between Halfpenny, Prydie and Conbeer for the 14 shirt.
     
  6. MikeTheNative

    MikeTheNative Bench Player

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2016
    Messages:
    893
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Club or Nation:

    Wales

    Dragons' problem has always been squad depth not necessarily the starting 23. They have looked to address this though by bringing a number of players who aren't headline worthy but will do a job if called upon. It's the blues who I am concerned at to be honest, which is crazy to think considering their season run in last few months. They have a new head coach and have yet to announce any signings, although Arhip is going to be official in the next fey days apparently.
     
  7. bushytop

    bushytop First XV

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,180
    Location:
    Here be dragons!
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Club or Nation:

    London Welsh

    Fair, I’d probably agree that the more you can get McNicholl involved the better. I’d also add Asquith to the wing possibilities, I’ve been impressed with him pretty much every time he’s had an opportunity (prob picked Prydie ahead of him in my original 23 due to daffodil tainted specs),
     
  8. bushytop

    bushytop First XV

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,180
    Location:
    Here be dragons!
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Club or Nation:

    London Welsh

    Dragons-wise: They will deffo go better than last season. I’d imagine that Jackman will expect his signings in the Pack ( Bevington, Dee/Hibbs, Jarvis, Nansen, Hill, Moriarty) to provide a much more robust platform for the team than last year. IF they can stay fit, they should be far more competitive. I’m thinking that challenging for a Pro 14 play off spot and a decent run in the Challenge Cup would be within their reach and would be good realistic progress.

    Blues: You would have to think that they have some transfers that are being negotiated but the silence is deafening atm. The Arhip signing, should it go through, is a great start but they need more in the pack to sustain a challenge in two comps next year. They need an 8 and a lock at least but the backs could do with some reinforcement also. Will be interesting to see how they view signings in a post-Thomas debt landscape.
     
  9. bushytop

    bushytop First XV

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,180
    Location:
    Here be dragons!
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Club or Nation:

    London Welsh

    Let’s try the Blues, but things could (& should) change if a few more signings are made.

    1. Rhys Gill
    2. Khristian Dacey
    3. Dmitri Arhip
    4. Seb Davies
    5. George Earle
    6. Sam Warburton
    7. Ellis Jenkins
    8. Nick Williams

    9. Tomos Williams
    10. Jarrod Evans
    11. Tom James
    12. Willis Halaholo
    13. Rey Lee-Lo
    14. Owen Lane
    15. Gareth Anscombe

    16. Matthew Rees
    17. Gethin Jenkins
    18. Dillon Lewis
    19. Josh Turnbull
    20. Josh Navidi
    21. Lloyd Williams
    22. Blaine Scully
    23. Matthew Morgan

    Haven’t seen a lot of Rory Thornton but his height ‘could’ give him the edge over Turnbull (although Josh covers back row too), so will be interested to see how he goes.

    If the Blues do end up signing Manoa, I would probably put him straight in, swapping out Earle.

    Gutted that I couldn’t find a spot for Olly Robinson as I thought he had a real solid season last year, particularly his heroics in the Challenge Cup final... but also straight from the off, I remember him away at Connacht he made a difference. The Blues just have too many sevens, they should have looked to trade a seven (god knows how you would choose though... sadly it would probably have to be Robinson ) for some further cover in the front five.

    I’d also like to see the occasional positional changes in the backs at various points throughout the season. I’m looking forward to seeing what Lane can do in the centre and although I’m a massive fan of the Halaholo - Lee-Lo partnership (who isn’t?) they can not play all the time. I’m also a big Matthew Morgan fan, and wouldn’t mind seeing what he can do on the wing, so on the occasion Lane gets an opportunity inside I hope they give Nipper the chance there.
     
  10. dullonien

    dullonien International

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    5,202
    Location:
    Cardiff
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Good looking squad that. The addition of Arhip makes a big difference to a position they really struggled with last season. If they can add Manoa to bolster another couple of problem positions at lock and no.8 that would certainly improve things further. Thornton should add good depth at lock as well.

    I agree regarding Lane. I wasn't convinced with the Haloholo - Lee-Lo partnership for a long time, thought they were too similar to, but towards the end of last season they worked a little like a tag team, applying relentless pressure on the opposition. However lane could add a point of difference in the centre with a little more raw pace and power.

    Nipper on the wing is another thing which should happen. He's a little too exposed at fullback for my liking, especially under the high ball and in defense. The arguments have always been that it gives him extra space and time to run from deep, but that never stopped Shane Williams out on the wing. There's also Dan Fish to return at fullback who was starting to look very good before his long injury lay off.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. bushytop

    bushytop First XV

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,180
    Location:
    Here be dragons!
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Club or Nation:

    London Welsh

    Hopefully they can click a bit sooner than last season, if so there is no reason why they couldn’t get a play off spot at the very least.
     
  12. bushytop

    bushytop First XV

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,180
    Location:
    Here be dragons!
    Country Flag:

    Wales

    Club or Nation:

    London Welsh

    So with the news that the Manoa signing has been completed, Blues:

    1. Rhys Gill
    2. Khristian Dacey
    3. Dmitri Arhip
    4. Seb Davies
    5. Manu Samoa
    6. Sam Warburton
    7. Ellis Jenkins
    8. Nick Williams

    9. Tomos Williams
    10. Jarrod Evans
    11. Tom James
    12. Willis Halaholo
    13. Rey Lee-Lo
    14. Owen Lane
    15. Gareth Anscombe

    16. Matthew Rees
    17. Gethin Jenkins
    18. Dillon Lewis
    19. George Earle
    20. Josh Navidi
    21. Lloyd Williams
    22. Blaine Scully
    23. Matthew Morgan
     
  13. Leinster Fan

    Leinster Fan First XV

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2017
    Messages:
    1,456
    Country Flag:

    Ireland

    Club or Nation:

    Leinster

    Leinster

    1. Cian Healy
    2. Sean Cronin
    3. Tadhg Furlong
    4. Devin Toner
    5. James Ryan
    6. Scott Fardy
    7. Dan Leafy
    8. Sean O'Brien

    9. Luke McGrath
    10. Johnny Sexton
    11. James Lowe
    12. Robbie Henshaw
    13. Garry Ringrose
    14. Jordan Larmour
    15. Rob Kearney

    16. James Tracy
    17. Jack McGrath
    18. Andrew Porter
    19. Josh Van der Flier
    20. Jack Conan
    21. Nick McCarthy
    22. Ross Byrne
    23. Joe Tomane

    Obviously thus team would never actually play in the Pro14 except in a knockout game or against Munster. This could all obviously change based on form, fitness etc.

    It's tempting fate picking SOB in anything at this stage, so in the likely event he's not fit, start Conan and Ruddock on the bench. (Although because there's no 8 cover in that case there'd be an argument for Deegan on the bench).

    I know Scott Fardy is meant to be a lock and everything but Toner was showing form well beyond any backrow bar Leavy at the end of last season and Ryan and Fardy are obviously undroppable.

    By the end of the season I could see some of the younger players grabbing a bench spot, in particular Bryan Byrne, Caelan Doris (I wouldn't rule him having a Larmour/Ryan type first season in pro rugby ending up in the first team), Max Deegan (it's not his first season but same as Doris), Ciaran Frawley (versatility could give him the edge over Byrne), and any number of wingers (and Ferg although he's hardly young never goes away).

    To be honest I think we're a bit light from 21-23 but hopefully a few things could fix that like Adam Byrne getting back to form, or McCarthy being able to cope with high-level games where he struggled last season but ideally you'd avoid ending up in the situation Ireland were in in the 6N where the sub backs only get on after the game's won.

    Anyway it's a strong team however you look at it even if it's not quite at last years level.
     
  14. Bruce_ma_goose

    Bruce_ma_goose First XV

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2016
    Messages:
    3,388
    Country Flag:

    Scotland

    Club or Nation:

    Italy

    Edinburgh pretty much selecting their strongest XV in the opener.

    Blair Kinghorn, Dougie Fife, Mark Bennett, Matt Scott, Duhan van der Merwe, Simon Hickey, Henry Pyrgos, Pierre Schoeman, Stuart McInally, Simon Berghan, Ben Toolis, Grant Gilchrist, Luke Hamilton, Hamish Watson, Bill Matta

    If Hickey turns out to be alright then that is a seriously handy squad this year. Substitute in Ritchie in the loose forwards and I'd say that they are top 4 in the competition for tight five, loose forwards and centres - with a decent back line to boot.

    So glad one of the Glasgow scrum halves made the move east. A complete no brainer and it should make a big difference (although I'd rate Pyrgos third out of the three).
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2018
  15. bazwaz

    bazwaz Academy Player

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2014
    Messages:
    240
    Country Flag:

    New Zealand

    Club or Nation:

    Chiefs

    MUNSTER: M Haley; D Sweetnam, D Goggin, R Scannell, S Daly; JJ Hanrahan, N Cronin; D Kilcoyne, M Sherry, J Ryan; J Kleyn, B Holland (C); D O’Callaghan, T O’Donnell, Arno Botha. Replacements: R Marshall, B Scott, S Archer, D O’Shea, G Coombes, J Hart, J Carbery, S Arnold.

    CHEETAHS: M Jael; R Maxwane, B Rensburg, N Lee, W Small-Smith; T Schoeman, S Venter; O Nche, J du Toit, L de Bruin, J Basson, JP du Preez, J Pokomela, O Mohoje, J Wiese. Replacements: J Dweba, C Marais, A Coetzee, W Steenkamp, A Davis, T Meyer, E Stapelberg, R Eksteen.
     
  16. bazwaz

    bazwaz Academy Player

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2014
    Messages:
    240
    Country Flag:

    New Zealand

    Club or Nation:

    Chiefs

    Ulster team to take on Scarlets
    (15-9): W Addison; C Gilroy, D Cave, S McCloskey, H Speight; B Burns, J Cooney;

    (1-8): A Warwick, J Andrew, T O’Toole, A O’Connor (captain), I Henderson, M Coetzee, S Reidy, N Timoney;

    Replacements (16-23): A McBurney, E O’Sullivan, R Kane, K Treadwell, C Henry, D Shanahan, A Curtis, A Kernohan.
     
  17. bazwaz

    bazwaz Academy Player

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2014
    Messages:
    240
    Country Flag:

    New Zealand

    Club or Nation:

    Chiefs

    Scarlets: Clayton Blommetjies; Tom Prydie, Jonathan Davies, Kieron Fonotia, Steff Evans; Rhys Patchell, Sam Hidalgo-Clyne; Rob Evans, Ken Owens (captain), Werner Kruger, David Bulbring, Steve Cummins, Blade Thomson, James Davies, Josh Macleod.

    Replacements: Ryan Elias, Phil Price, Simon Gardiner, Ed Kennedy, Dan Davis, Gareth Davies, Dan Jones, Ioan Nicholas.
     
  18. bazwaz

    bazwaz Academy Player

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2014
    Messages:
    240
    Country Flag:

    New Zealand

    Club or Nation:

    Chiefs

    CONNACHT: T O’Halloran, C Kelleher, K Godwin, T Farrell, M Healy; J Carty, C Blade; D Buckley, D Heffernan, F Bealham, U Dillane, J Cannon, P Boyle, J Butler, E McKeon. Replacements: S Delahunt, P McCabe, C Carey, Q Roux, C Gallagher, J Mitchell, C Ronaldson, N Adeolokun.

    GLASGOW: S Hogg; T Seymour, N Grigg, P Horne, DTH van der Merwe; A Hastings, G Horne; O Kebbie, G Turner, Z Fagerson, S Cummings, J Gray, R Harley, C Gibbons, R Wilson. Replacaments - F Brown, A Allan, D Rae, A Ashe, C Fusaro, N Frisby, A Dunbar, N Matawalu
     
Enjoyed this thread? Register to post your reply - click here!

Share This Page